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[00:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39442 /branches/8.x/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX]plugin: when editing with popup plugin {listpages}, the sort param was populated with the the sort function and craching the database at save
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[00:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39443 /trunk/lib/ (credits/creditslib.php tiki-js.js): [merge 39442 39433][FIX]plugin: when editing with popup plugin {listpages}, the sort param was populated with the the sort function and craching the database at save + warning
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[02:01]< Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4097 - - module svnup : Remove dependency on sh doc/devtools/svnup.sh  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4097
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[12:01]< xavi> polom
[12:01]< xavi> Jyhem_laptop: ?
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[12:01]< xavi> hi jonnyb
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[12:01]< jonnyb> hey xavi - found my note about fixing the "don't submit the form twice" thing
[12:01]< xavi> I've just hit a regression bug in 8x (from 6.x) in checking (js based) the mandatory fields in trackers
[12:01]< jonnyb> not forgotten... :)
[12:01]< xavi> ha ha :-) thanks :-)
[12:01]< xavi> jonnyb: luckily, that issue is not that urgent any more for me in that production site, after I enabled the daily reports for most users... tiki went back to quite fast responsiveness (since it doesn't need to send hundreds of emails each time a users adds a new item, etc)
[12:01]< xavi> "that issue": I mean the "don't submit the form twice"
[12:01]< xavi> it would be a "nice to have" feature, but since it was not easy to fix, I would say, don't worry that much ....
[12:01]< jonnyb> oh right - interesting... (still would be useful though)
[12:01]< xavi> yes, it would, I agree
[12:01]< xavi> on the contrary, there is something that you might know how to fix (within your skills, I presume), that is missbehaving with "mandatory" in attachment field in trackers in 8x
[12:01]< xavi> current revision
[12:01]< xavi> you se the attachment field as mandatory
[12:01]< xavi> you add a new item with the file attached (so far so good)
[12:01]< jonnyb> ok
[12:01]< xavi> then you attempt to re-edit another field of that item, and you can't re-submit your tracker item since the tracker complains that "this field (attachment) can't be empty"
[12:01]< xavi> but it's not empty, the file is already stored in the tracker field for that item
[12:01]< jonnyb> ok, doesn't sound too bad - same in trunk i expect?
[12:01]< xavi> I presume that this issue falls within the domain of tiki devs which are good at trackers, jquery, js, etc.
[12:01]< xavi> no idea... I'll check
[12:01]< jonnyb> sorry - don't worry (i'll check, just clearing otehr stuff...)
[12:01]< jonnyb> have you tried playing with the File tracker field? (links to a file in a gallery)
[12:01]< xavi> ok, thanks
[12:01]< xavi> tried with File tracker field?: he he, yes, in other contexts, and it looks promising!
[12:01]< xavi> I wish one day I can dare to use it into my production sites with R and PluginR (not yet, too many things formeroly failing in my attempts to use the production site in 6.x in a 8x)
[12:01]< jonnyb> but this is the old "attachment" type field - aren't there other settings for this, like how many files you can attach or something?
[12:01]< xavi> old attachment field: yes. Other params, not that I know of. Let me check the params used in this production site ....
[12:01]< xavi> jonnyb: in trunk, in a quick test I've just performed, the attachment is not stored in the db :-/
[12:01]< xavi> anyway, in case you get the same behavior when (if) you test in trunk with old attachment field 
[12:01]< jonnyb> oh, so in 8.x only - dull...
[12:01]< xavi> "only", well, 9.x seems to be worse...
[13:01]< xavi> jonnyb: the old attachment field, doesn't have the param to limit the number of files to be stored, etc
[13:01]< jonnyb> isn't there a way of adding attachments to items without having a field for it (set in the tracker options)
[13:01]< xavi> this param is for the new "files" field
[13:01]< xavi> for what I've just seen
[13:01]< xavi> jonnyb: yes, I think so, there is this other tab for attachments without explicit fieldid
[13:01]< xavi> jonnyb: in trunk (still): the extra tab for attachments to tracker items (not linked to a tracker field, or not explicitly, at least) works as expected: file is attached
[13:01]< xavi> from the files field, it works also
[13:01]< xavi> from the old attachments field (the one I'm using for production, as well as all sites that are in 6x LTS): it doesn't store those files attached 
[13:01]< xavi> so I presume that with current code base, we would have lots of unhappy tiki admins upgrading from 6.x to 8.x or 9.x LTS in the future
[13:01]< jonnyb> sorry xavi, lost track - what do you want me to look at?
[13:01]< xavi> there are two issue here, for what I've seen:
[13:01]< xavi> (1) validation in 8x for a tracker field attachment
[13:01]< xavi> (2) tracker field attachment is broken in 9x, and when a site is upgraded from 6.x directly to trunk, that field is not converted into something else that works, and the field attachment it does simply not work (it does not store attachments) 
[13:01]< xavi> My initial request of help was for issue (1)
[13:01]< xavi> and then, while reproducing in trunk, I found out issue (2) 
[13:01]< xavi> but I'm not requesting you to fix all tiki bugs, of course :-)
[13:01]< xavi> I thought that issue (1) was the kind of bug that your expertise would make it easy to debug and fix than for many other devs which are in the european time zones 
[13:01]< jonnyb> thanks for the recap xavi - will check what's gone wrong in trunk first...
[13:01]< xavi> ok, thanks to you for feedbacn &  debugging also
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[13:01]< xavi> bbl
[13:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39444 /trunk/lib/core/Services/Tracker/SearchController.php: [FIX] custom search: Store "empty" input values in session so it "remembers" unchecked checkboxes etc
[13:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39445 /trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter/ (Date.php Datetime.php): [FIX] search: Only attempt to format unix timestamps as dates (so default values like "no date set" don't cause errors)
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[13:01]<@sylvieg> What means : Handling actions of plugin "attachments" failed. I can not attach any file to a wiki page in 8
[13:01]< jonnyb> i sylvieg, rodrigoprimo & ricks99 
[13:01]<@sylvieg> hello
[13:01]< jonnyb> sylvieg: might that be the thing Geoff changed a while ago? (haven't tried it myself since)
[13:01]<@sylvieg> svn log lib/setup/plugins_actions.php -> it is a nyloth thing
[13:01]< ricks99> polom y'all
[14:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39446 /trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/File.php: [FIX] tracker: Fix for attaching files in tracker File (attachment) fields when not using database (thanks Xavi, not tested upgrades but hope this helps)
[14:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39447 /branches/8.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/File.php: [bp/r39446][FIX] tracker: Fix for attaching files in tracker File (attachment) fields when not using database
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[15:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39448 /third_party/jquery/ (17 files in 6 dirs): update jquery.validate to v 1.9 (and remove demos etc)
[15:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39449 /trunk/lib/ (validators/validator_required_in_group.js validatorslib.php): indentation only
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[16:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39450 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] trackers: Add new validator fn to validate tracker files (and don't display file contents in page if validation fails, i.e. the value is not the attachment id)
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[16:01]< peteralm> I would like to know if it is possible to change the order of the columns displayed in file gallery and if possible, where and how this can be done.
[16:01]< peteralm> help
[16:01]< ricks99> if you wanted to change the actual order of the columns, you'll need to modify/customize the appropriate template TPL files
[16:01]< nkoth|nelson> sylvieg: ping
[16:01]< peteralm> thanks. Do you know which file (is it gallery.tpl
[16:01]< ricks99> peteralm: you can turn on the "Show TPL comment" (or somehting like that) option. Tiki will include an HTML comment that shows the start/end of each template file
[16:01]< peteralm> thx ricks99. I'm going to look for that option.
[16:01]< ricks99> look on admin: Look & Feel i think
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[17:01]< xavi> back
[17:01]< xavi> hi ricks99 nkoth|nelson and sylvieg
[17:01]< xavi> thks jonnyb for fixes. I'll test your commits
[17:01]< jonnyb> thanks xavi - that validation stuff is hard!
[17:01]< xavi> yes, I can Imagine
[17:01]< nkoth|nelson> hi xavi
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[17:01]< xavi> jonnyb: I confirm that trunk works like a charm right now regarding both issues I described hours ago :-) (yur'da man ;-)
[17:01] * xavi checking 8x
[17:01]< tikinoob> Hello I would like to have the possibility to send a message in a tiki, I found something but the messages dont arrive. 
[17:01]< jonnyb> super - i have some mess ups when you have several mandatory fields, and set a file to upload but don't fill in the others... bit edgy i suppose
[17:01]< xavi> jonnyb: yes, many combinations... hard to debug everywhere I guess
[17:01]< xavi> tikinoob: lets go step by step
[17:01]< xavi> tikinoob: can you send messages from the send test message feature in the admin panels?
[17:01]< xavi> tikinoob:  ^do you know what I mean?
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[17:01]< tikinoob> xavi: There is only a "contact us" in the Menu
[17:01]< xavi> tikinoob: do you have admin account of your tiki?
[17:01]< xavi> or a user with admin rights on your tiki?
[17:01]< xavi> if so, go to "Admin home > Geneal" (i.e. tiki-admin.php?page=general )
[17:01]< tikinoob> I can edit the whole style and the rights of the users...so I gues I have admin status
[17:01]< xavi> ... > General preferences > Mail > Email to send a test mail
[17:01]< xavi> write your email there, and click at change preferences
[17:01]< xavi> jonnyb: issue (1) still present in tiki 8x (the one about jquery validation in attachment field complaining that the field cannot be empty when in fact it already has a file attached)
[17:01]< jonnyb> i know, that's the one i didn't backport
[17:01]< xavi> since your fix in trunk seemed to involve updating external libs (jquery validation etc), I don't dare to backport myself
[17:01]< xavi> ah, ok :-)
[17:01]< jonnyb> it won't need the updated validator lib, should be easy to bp
[17:01]< xavi> mmm, ok
[17:01] * xavi reads the svn log in trunk to get inspiration on how to backport (which commit,e tc)
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[17:01]< xavi> ok, jonnyb, so I understand that I have to just backport r39450 (the three files, etc)
[17:01]< xavi> there I go...
[17:01]< jonnyb> good luck - i'll check too
[17:01]< tikinoob> xavi: I cant find Mail...I find General Preferences in german "allgemeines"
[17:01]< xavi> tikinoob: can you change for a while your tiki interface to English?
[17:01]< tikinoob> ok
[17:01]< xavi> to make the guidance easier...
[17:01]< xavi> ok
[17:01]< xavi> tikinoob: to avoid confusion. I understand that what you mean that you rdon't receive messages, is that you don't receive copy of those messages by email, am I right?
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[17:01]< tikinoob> xavi: no i dont receive any message
[17:01]< tikinoob> xavi: Its running on a l0ocal machine with xampp
[17:01]< xavi> any message by email, but you receive the message at the intratiki messaging box (inside tiki), is that right?
[17:01]< xavi> tikinoob: ok, no idea then. I wouldn't trust a test on a xampp on a windows machine to send emails....
[17:01]< xavi> it might very well be that it's not possible because of lack of configuration somewhere else in your windows machine (no idea myself)
[17:01]< tikinoob> xavi: I dont receive intratiki messages
[17:01]< xavi> Tiki sends messages fine for sure
[17:01]< xavi> ah, ok, then, we can't continue testing intratiki messsaging
[17:01]< xavi> whic tiki version
[17:01]< xavi> ?
[17:01]< tikinoob> Its the newest
[17:01]< tikinoob> downloaded it yesterday
[17:01]< xavi> can you confirm a number, please?
[17:01]< xavi> there are several branches
[17:01]< tikinoob> Its 8.2
[17:01]< xavi> 6.x, 8.x, trunk or 9.x.... depending on how where you downloaded it from
[17:01]< xavi> ok, 8.2
[17:01]< xavi> can you describe step buy step what you do to attempt to send that message, and how you check if that message was received, please?
[17:01]< xavi> (I'm asking you this because the feature works for sure in 8.x, at least in most if not all environments that I know of)
[17:01]< tikinoob> Admin Home -> Messages -Activate User massages
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[17:01]< tikinoob> Then Groups -> Manage permission->and activate Messages permission for costumer group
[17:01]< tikinoob> All 3
[17:01]< xavi> ok, so far, so good. what else
[17:01]< tikinoob> xavi: later u adviced me i checked in Admins Home->GEneral_>GEneral Settings-> allow annonymous user to contact us
[17:01]< tikinoob> there is a message "You need to set Sender email"
[17:01]< tikinoob> i havent tested last step...so thats it so far
[18:01]< xavi> mmm, ah ok, the message you want tiki to send is not between tiki users, or to tiki users, but from anonymous thorugh the "contact us" feaure, is that righ?  
[18:01]< xavi> check this, then: http://doc.tiki.org/Contact+us
[18:01]< xavi> outdated doc, maybe, but it should work as a basic howto, and we'll improve it if needed
[18:01]< tikinoob> actually i want costumers be able to send messages to me...or a tikiuser in a group defined by me
[18:01]< ricks99> tikinoob: are you trying to use tiki's internal messaging system?
[18:01]< ricks99> ps: hi xavi :-)
[18:01]< tikinoob> yes
[18:01]< tikinoob> no email
[18:01]< tikinoob> sry my english ist bad :)
[18:01]< xavi> ok, that is intratiki messaging, then: ....
[18:01]< ricks99> using Tiki 8.2, correct?
[18:01] * xavi chekcing url in doc.t.o still... 
[18:01]< xavi> http://doc.tiki.org/Inter-User+Messages
[18:01]< ricks99> Did you enable "User Messaging" in Admin: Community page?
[18:01]< xavi> tikinoob: see this http://doc.tiki.org/Inter-User+Messages#How_to_Enable_as_this_Feature_Admin
[18:01]< xavi> hi ricks99
[18:01]< tikinoob> yes ...well at least thats the site i doenloaded it an this is the last version...so i belive it is
[18:01]< ricks99> see docs for details (thx xavi for link)
[18:01]< xavi> and if needed, we'll help you upgrade the docs (or we'll do it for you)
[18:01]< xavi> tht doc page might be a bit outdated
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[18:01]< ricks99> once the feature is enabled, use the Admin: Messages page to set the defaults
[18:01]< ricks99> You will need to enable the "Show MyTiki Menu" option too, so users can see the MyTiki > Messages menu option (unless you have created a custom menu option)
[18:01]< tikinoob> okey im trying.....the "User messages" option in community was enabled
[18:01]< tikinoob> where can i find the "Show MyTiki Menu" option ?
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[18:01]< ricks99> tikinoob: on Admin: Community page.
[18:01]< ricks99> Please note, you can use the "Configuration Search" feature (shown on every Admin page) to quickly find *any* tiki option.
[18:01]< xavi> ok, tikinoob, you are in good hands with ricks99. tikinoob, when you manage to fix your issue, we would appreciate if you could attempt to update the doc page about "User messages" with the missing info that ricks99 gave you
[18:01]< xavi> http://doc.tiki.org/Inter-User+Messages
[18:01] * ricks99 hopes to get back to tiki doc improvements one of these days...
[18:01] * xavi considers ricks99 as one of his tiki heroes
[18:01]< ricks99> lol. xavi needs to aim higher
[18:01]< xavi> ;-)  
[18:01]< xavi> jonnyb still around?
[18:01]< xavi> I see some weird difference in lib/validators/validator_required_in_group.js from trunk to 8x
[18:01]< xavi> that doesn't come from your last commit
[18:01]< xavi> argh, jonnyb, forget it, it's just from a different line break between 8x and trunk. false possitive. i dount' touch it
[18:01]< xavi> it was there already before I opened the file :-)
[18:01]< tikinoob> ricks99: Ive searched for Show "MyTiki Menu" but there is nothing like that
[18:01]< ricks99> It is on Admin: Community, user features tab. See docs http://doc.tiki.org/User+Features&structure=Tiki+Reference+Guide
[18:01]< ricks99> Search for "MyTiki"
[18:01]< ricks99> Confirm, too, that you are showing *all* the preference filters (Basic, Advanced, etc.)
[18:01]< tikinoob> Preferences are on Basic
[18:01]< ricks99> that's why you're not able to see all the items. You need set the filter to show the additional preferences. (see docs for details)
[18:01] * xavi : the program "meld" rocks for backporting commits using free software also from old computers! 
[18:01]< xavi> yay! backporting done locally and confirmed that it works! 
[18:01]< xavi> thanks jonnyb: issue (1) also fixed in 8x
[18:01] * xavi will commit in short...
[18:01]< jonnyb> super, well done (sorry for leaving that one to you)
[18:01]< xavi> no problem, you'd better use your time and expertise for things that I can't do :-)
[18:01]< xavi> backporting, with the right tools, and when I have some time for that, is easy :-)
[18:01]< jonnyb> my massive tracker seems to have failed again (search doesn't work any more!) :(
[18:01]< xavi> :-/
[18:01] * xavi feels jonnyb's pain
[18:01]< jonnyb> quite odd - it worked ok yesterday...
[18:01]< jonnyb> was doing nice things with the custom search plugin
[18:01]< tikinoob> ok now I can send messages. so looks not bad bad first i run some tests
[18:01]< ricks99> :) glad to help
[18:01]< tikinoob> yeah thank you very much guys
[18:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: xavidp * r39451 /branches/8.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [bp/r39450][FIX] trackers: Add new validator fn to validate tracker files (and don't display file contents in page if validation fails, i.e. the value is not the attachment id). thanks jonnyb
[18:01]< xavi> bye bye (c u all)
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[18:01]< jonnyb> hey lphuberdeau (hi, happy 2012, polom etc) - the change you made about using the permName for tracker field indexing doesn't seem to work for me... is it still ok for you? the commit looks ok - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=39227&view=rev
[18:01]< lphuberdeau> well, you need to re-index
[18:01]< lphuberdeau> and your queries will change as the index no longer is used
[18:01]< lphuberdeau> but yes, it works for me
[18:01]< jonnyb> yes, worked that out, but the only way i can get {list} etc to work is by using the field id mode
[18:01]< lphuberdeau> did you use the perm name in the field names?
[18:01]< jonnyb> yes, sure i tried that but gave in and used id's instead
[19:01]< jonnyb> and this site i'm building just stopped working when i svn up'ed as it switched to using permNames
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> did you rebuild the index?
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> might want to check what the compatibility mode is at
[19:01]< jonnyb> yes, but before i found the new pref (and it takes hours, 5000 files and 12000 tracker items)
[19:01]< jonnyb> it defaults to not compatible :(
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> yes, defaults to the new mode
[19:01]< jonnyb> won't that break upgrades?
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> figured there are only a few people making heavy use of those things at this stage
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> but essentially, compat mode, rebuild, nothing should change elsewhere
[19:01]< jonnyb> isn't {list} in tiki 8?
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> or no compat mode, rebuild, and change queries
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> yes it is
[19:01]< jonnyb> one thing occurred to me - is there a check for unique permNames (across the whole tiki)?
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> per-tracker
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> which is one of the point of having the search by perm name, you can search across trackers if they use the same property name
[19:01]< jonnyb> aha, gotcha
[19:01]< lphuberdeau> and then you can filter by tracker_id too if you really want to restrict to one tracker
[19:01]< jonnyb> right
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[19:01]< tikinoob> cannot change the doku
[19:01]< tikinoob> im not a member
[19:01]< nkoth|nelson> lphuberdeay/jonnyb, what compat mode?
[19:01]< tikinoob> i have to leave now. mb cu later...thx
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[19:01]< jonnyb> hi nkoth|nelson - unified_trackerfield_keys
[19:01]< nkoth|nelson> jonnyb, ok a new pref. thanks. good to know
[19:01]< jonnyb> it changes the way you reference tracker fields in {list} etc from id to permName
[19:01]< jonnyb> and defaults to the new mode
[19:01]< nkoth|nelson> got it, thanks :)
[19:01]< jonnyb> so you need to rebuild your index after svn up'ing (and rewrite all the plugin calls)
[19:01]< jonnyb> or switch it into compatibility mode
[19:01]< jonnyb> lphuberdeau: confirm the permName mode works ok (didn't realise i needed to use tracker_field_myPermName)
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[20:01]< Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: create view/query to pull data directly from tiki wiki db tables - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42901
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[21:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39452 /branches/8.x/templates/fgal_attachments.tpl: 
[21:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: [bp/r38997][FIX] feature_use_fgal_for_wiki_attachments: "Handling actions of plugin "attachments" failed."
[21:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: Ref: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.cvs/69506" failed.
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[22:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39453 /branches/8.x/tiki-admin.php: [FIX]admin: the wiki attachments were no more listed since commit 37117
[22:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39454 /trunk/tiki-admin.php: [merge/r39453][FIX]admin: the wiki attachments were no more listed since commit 37117
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[22:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39455 /branches/8.x/templates/admin/include_wikiatt.tpl: [FIX]wikiatt: fix sort on created
[22:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39456 /trunk/templates/admin/include_wikiatt.tpl: [merge/r39455]FIX]wikiatt: fix sort on created
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[22:01]< Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4098 - - webdav  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4098
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[23:01]<@sylvieg> regression from tiki6 : there is no more tiki_p_admin_categories in the object permission of a category
[23:01]<@sylvieg> was ok in 7 :-(
[23:01]<@sylvieg> and there is no more tiki_p_create_category
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[23:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39457 /branches/8.x/lib/userslib.php: [FIX]category: regression tiki_p_admin_categories must show up when applying permissions to a category( a group can create categ in a categ)
[23:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39458 /trunk/lib/userslib.php: [merge/r39457][FIX]category: regression tiki_p_admin_categories must show up when applying permissions to a category( a group can create categ in a categ)
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