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[00:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39555 /branches/8.x/lib/userslib.php: [FIX]article: allow html back
[00:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39556 /trunk/lib/userslib.php: [merge/r39555]FIX]article: allow html back
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[01:01]< deeku> Hi, I need help testing my install of BigBlueButton - anyone here have a couple of minutes to spare? Just please visit 108.166.120.55, enter your name and chat with me...
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[02:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: chealer * r39557 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[02:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: Remove users_prefs_language. language should be used instead.
[02:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: Added in r5776 and was already removed in r6164.
[02:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: Thanks Marc Laporte and Philippe Dallaire
[02:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: chealer * r39558 /branches/8.x/lib/prefs/users.php: [FIX] Users added (not self-registered) get their language set to English (in tiki_users_preferences) even if site language is not English after r36750 (Tiki 8)
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[03:01]< Rosareven> hello tikians
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[03:01]< Trebly> <marclaporte> hi, I wish to send you a mail, I have used the old mail that I had. As I don't receive any answer, I believe that it had been lost.
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[04:01]< Rosareven> Hi guys, I'm thinking of moving my website from wordpress to tikiwiki, for the possibility of messing with additional features that can be added to my website beyond blogging. If I want to use javascript libraries such as jQuery for fancy interface fluff, how easy is that to include?
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[05:01]< pca> !help
[05:01]< Tiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tiki.org/TikiBot .
[05:01]< pca> !bugs
[05:01]< Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4112 - - Add empty lines after each section of records not just bold text for the first entry of the new section of records  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4112
[05:01]< Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4113 - - Daily reports: Emails sent mostly every two days instead of daily as indicated in the feature  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4113
[05:01]< Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4114 - - Differentiate in Daily reports changes made in general objects and in objects created by the user that is receiving the report  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4114
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[05:01]< Rosareven> hi, I was wondering if anyone here is available for a question?
[05:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: marclaporte * r39559 /branches/8.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mediaplayer.php: [FIX] For FLV and MP3, you need to use the dedicated param
[05:01]<@marclaporte> Rosareven: shoot
[05:01]< Rosareven> how easy is it to include a javascript library such as jquery for the more fancy interface things?
[05:01]< Rosareven> that was very vague... I was referring to the inclusion of the library itself manually into the template. Say if I want to have an ajax style interface (akin to the way tiddlywiki presents pages), would it take a day or a week, or a month, to achieve?
[05:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: marclaporte * r39560 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mediaplayer.php: [merge/r39559] [FIX] For FLV and MP3, you need to use the dedicated param
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[06:01]< Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4115 - - Search index could not be updated. The site is misconfigured. Contact an administrator.  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4115
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[06:01]< marclaporte1> Rosareven?
[06:01]< marclaporte1> http://doc.tiki.org/Custom+Code+HowTo+-+jQuery
[06:01]< marclaporte1> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginDialog
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[08:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: marclaporte * r39561 /trunk/_htaccess: Add an example of when RewriteBase is useful
[08:01]< luciash> polom polom
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[09:01]< luciash> hi xavi
[09:01]< xavi> hi luciash
[09:01]< luciash> will u attend the webinar ?
[09:01]< xavi> yes, I hope so :-)
[09:01] * luciash too
[09:01]< xavi> (it's written down  in my agenda, at least :-) ) 
[09:01] * xavi looking forward to these tiki webinars
[09:01]< luciash> i look forward to dogfood bbb 0.8
[09:01]< xavi> so do I
[09:01]< xavi> I hope I can use bbb in the following months in some hosting to have web meetings with a few groups
[09:01]< luciash> we have it on VPS 512M RAM, 500GHz, 15GB HDD Ubuntu and it works fine for audio + presentations (bbb 0.7)
[09:01]< luciash> this is the cheapest VPS we could get just for BBB
[09:01]< luciash> video and desk sharing is unusable though
[09:01]< luciash> slows down a lot (resources heavy)
[09:01]< luciash> i wonder if 0.8 is lighter on resources or even more hungry
[09:01]< luciash> well, all the BBB stuff and this IRSSI runs there ;)
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[09:01]< xavi> aha... luciash, did you try upgrading to bbb 0.8 (with recording,e tc.)?
[09:01]< luciash> xavi: i wonder why i have often trouble on my ubuntu to accept the microphone flash dialog :(
[09:01]< xavi> they suggest to have hundreds of Gb of space in the server (for recording, and maybe, video processing)
[09:01]< luciash> in Chromium browser
[09:01]< luciash> xavi: nope, i didn't try the upgrade yet
[09:01]< luciash> i understand the GiGs for recording
[09:01]< xavi> luciash: no idea... tricky thing about microphone.... I had to reinstall the whole system in one machine at home weeks ago, because I did loose control of my mic (after playing with streaming recording from my own computer)
[09:01]< luciash> xavi: just tried on live.tiki.org now and i cannot confirm the flash dialog :-/
[09:01]< xavi> :-/
[09:01]< luciash> it is not responding to my clicks and enters :-p
[09:01]< xavi> I'll try tonight from home
[09:01]< luciash> i know it usually works with other browsers/operating systems
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[09:01]< luciash> btw, i am not really satisfied with the latest Ubuntu on Desktop... they made a lot of changes breaking lot of things for me i was used to
[09:01]< luciash> :-\
[09:01]< xavi> I left gnome and unity months ago....
[09:01]< luciash> has to "repair" all hardly and manually to set it back for mw
[09:01]< luciash> what u use now ?
[09:01]< luciash> s/mw/me/
[09:01]< xavi> I'm a gnome3 refugee... hosted in lxde, xfce or even kde :-)
[09:01]< xavi> right now xfce at work, as well as home in most computers (old or new)
[09:01]< luciash> same here, but the crappy scrollbars appear again here in lubuntu (lxde)
[09:01]< xavi> and lubuntu in a few also
[09:01]< luciash> i use enlightenment e17 also
[09:01]< luciash> and my governor cpu is keeping resetting to whatever it wants to run instead of what i wish it to stick with
[09:01]< luciash> :(
[09:01]< xavi> I fear the time to upgrade the servers and our desktops (at work) from 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts for all my work maktes
[09:01]< luciash> yeah, but on server it shouldn't be too drastic changes
[09:01]< luciash> at least there is no gui ;)
[09:01]< xavi> I'm the only one who has been upgrading every 6 months to suffer the change and learn from it, so that at the time of the upgrade, I can provide advice and guide them
[09:01]< xavi> we use gui in a couple of servers also
[09:01]< xavi> freenx and nomachine nx clients
[09:01]< xavi> or vnc
[09:01]< luciash> i see
[09:01]< luciash> i try to keep our new VPS to bare minimum to save resources
[09:01]< luciash> it is lightng fast Tiki now compared to previous shared "executive" webhosting plan :-p
[09:01]< luciash> i installed Ubuntu 11.10 server there
[09:01]< xavi> he he, yes, I know (we run a few other things in our servers and some of them require a gui)
[09:01]< xavi> decently fast also for the web server (besides other things running there every now and then)
[09:01]< luciash> what do u require gui for ?
[09:01]< luciash> some java or R progs ?
[09:01]< xavi> programs for bioinformatics (dna research, etc.). 
[09:01]< xavi> java, tcltk, etc. it depends
[09:01]< luciash> ah
[09:01]< Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Release notes? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=42944
[09:01]< luciash> ah, in opera it works much better ! :)
[09:01]< luciash> the 0.8 bbb at live.tiki.org
[09:01] * luciash just testing tonight's webinar meeting beforehand ;)
[09:01]< luciash> for one user in the room it worked pretty well :-p
[10:01] * luciash is not impressed by the recorded "slides" quality though ;)
[10:01]< luciash> well, "it works" pretty good for the purpose
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[13:01]< Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Login through something like Facebook Connect - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42945
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[13:01]<@sylvieg> oops soory
[13:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39562 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_customsearch.php: [ENH] custom search: New param to specify a destination div to contain the results
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[13:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39563 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_customsearch.php: [FIX} custom search: Wrong filter
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[14:01]< ricks99> polom y'all
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[14:01]< luciash> ricks99: hey y'one
[14:01]< ricks99> hiya luciash
[14:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sampaioprimo * r39564 /third_party/vfsStream/ (6 files): updating vfsStrem to version 0.11.2
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[15:01]< scullder> hello here :)
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[15:01]< scullder> Hey, I'm a noob with tikiwiki and I have a small problem with 8.3 version
[15:01]< scullder> I've installed tikiwiki correctly
[15:01]< scullder> But it seems a lot of features are disabled 
[15:01]< scullder> for instance, in the login admin page, there's not ldap tab
[15:01]< ricks99> scullder: You have to enable features in order to use them.
[15:01]< scullder> I don't see any ldap feature
[15:01]< scullder> and php ldap extension is enabled
[15:01]< scullder> it's on a fresh debian vm, maybe I've missed something
[15:01]< ricks99> You don't see the LDAP tab, as shown here: http://doc.tiki.org/Login+General+Preferences&structure=Tiki+Reference+Guide
[15:01]< ricks99> Are you using a customized theme?
[15:01]< scullder> exactly, there's absolutely no tab except "general preferences"
[15:01]< scullder> no it's a fresh tikiwiki install
[15:01]< scullder> no idea ?
[15:01]< ricks99> Did you click the NO TABS button? If so, all the tabs are shown as one
[15:01]< ricks99> can  you provide a screen shot? or URL ?
[15:01]< scullder> nop, there's really no ldap tab / settings
[15:01]< scullder> yup
[15:01]< scullder> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1326983058.png
[15:01]< scullder> no idea ?
[15:01]< ricks99> you've filterd to show only the basic settings.
[15:01]< scullder> ...
[15:01]< ricks99> you need to set the preference filters. Please see docs for details: http://doc.tiki.org/Admin+Home&structure=Tiki+Reference+Guide
[15:01]< scullder> Yeah, I've found
[15:01]< scullder> this filter is a trap
[15:01]< scullder> Thank you ;)
[15:01]< ricks99> you're welcome
[15:01]< ricks99> enjoy Tiki
[15:01]< scullder> I'm already enjoying, I have to migrate an old tiki 6 to tiki 8, and extend the content ;)
[15:01]< ricks99> :)
[15:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: robertplummer * r39565 /trunk/lib/core/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Cleanup
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[16:01]< Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: FREE Tiki Webinar! - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=42946
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[17:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39566 /trunk/ (lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js styles/layout/design.css): [FIX} modal: Fix mask position so the top matches the top of the object, and move the spinner onto the page if the object is taller than the page.
[17:01] * ricks99 wonders if an IRC admin can change the welcome message to reflect the current Tiki version numbers...
[17:01]< jonnyb> polom
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[17:01] * jonnyb is glad he doesn't know how to do that IRC admin stuff
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[17:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39567 /trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] pagination: Stop step input having zero width
[17:01] * xavi has just discovered that smarty "capture" is just what he needed to extend some usage of R scripts within Tiki
[17:01] * xavi is happy :-)
[17:01]<@marclaporte> hehe
[17:01]< xavi> mmmm, and I'm also glad I don't know how to change the welcome message (in fact, I'm not even IRC admin so even If I knew, I wouldn't be able to do it ;-)  
[17:01]<@marclaporte> xavi: does Smarty 3 make your life easier?
[17:01] * ricks99 is gonna start calling Xavi the Smarty Expert.
[17:01]< xavi> marclaporte: I dunno. :-) My smarty knowledge is veeeery basic (regardless of smarty version)
[17:01]< xavi> s/Smarty Expert/Smarty-quick-and-dirty-hacker
[17:01]< xavi> ^ ricks99
[17:01]< ricks99> lol
[17:01]< xavi> hopefully our webinars will have experts in whatever subjects enlightening the tiki mere mortals... 
[17:01]< jonnyb> hi everybody - all well i hope :)
[17:01]< xavi> and maybe one day, there will be a webinar about using smarty.... so that I can learn the basics (instead of just doing quick & dirty things in my own templates)
[17:01]< xavi> hi jonnyb :-)
[17:01]< jonnyb> hi xavi - did you get your dynamic list tracker thing sorted out?
[18:01]< xavi> he he, kind of, by providing "&refresh=1" in the url given to the users to fill in the survey form
[18:01]< xavi> otherwise, cache was in the way interfering
[18:01]< xavi> tiki cache
[18:01]< xavi> this might have been solved in trunk, but still an issue in 6.x LTS
[18:01]< xavi> anyway, I can't invest more time on that issue on 6.x LTS
[18:01]< xavi> sionce I know there is no much interested in fixing those tiny issues in 6.x that might have been fixed in trunk, etc. (and issues which have an easy workaround, like adding "&refresh=1" to the url)
[18:01]< xavi> jonnyb: did you get the issues with your desktop computer sorted out?
[18:01]< jonnyb> finally yes, the graphics card had died, but a friend managed to find a spare on which i've eventually got working
[18:01]< xavi> nice ! :-)
[18:01]< jonnyb> just the kind of failure that you don't need a week before xmas (usually it's the printer that breaks then!)
[18:01]< xavi> jonnyb: are you using dynamic tracker lists in 8.x or trunk for prroduction anywhere?
[18:01]< jonnyb> no, only a test tracker i have here, hence not getting on to it
[18:01]< xavi> ok
[18:01]< jonnyb> i'm mainly doing custom search stuff...
[18:01]< xavi> I noticed that in 8.x and trunk, they don't get empty value by default, while in 6.x, they got empty value as a starting point
[18:01]< jonnyb> wasn't that dependent on it being mandatory?
[18:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jyhem * r39568 /trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [FIX] Clean up box regexp
[18:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jyhem * r39569 /branches/8.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [bp/r39568][FIX] Clean up box regexp
[18:01]< xavi> jonnyb: no idea. whatever case, it's different from the default behavior in 6.x (I noticed after a few test upgrades of a production 6.x to 8.x and to trunk)
[18:01]< xavi> btw, custome search stuff, I did read your email in the devel list :-)
[18:01]< xavi> whenever these neat things that you are doing with custome search and ajax, reindexing, etc. are in beta stage , I wish that yuo can show them in a Tiki Webinar in a few months :-) 
[18:01]< xavi> it will be much easier to help you document these new features when we are able to see them in action
[18:01]< jonnyb> yes indeed, was hoping to have it done enough for today just just ran into a few problems
[18:01]< jonnyb> next month probably (although i may be in Norway so probably tricky to join in)
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[18:01]< xavi> ok
[18:01]< xavi> doesn anybody know what the "favourite" button next to "edit this page" in doc.t.o is about?
[18:01]< xavi> I did search for "favourite" on doc.t.o with no results...
[18:01]< xavi> ah, ok, sorry, forget it; I misspelled it. it's "favorite" and there is a doc page for this (it's a plugin)
[18:01]< jonnyb> xavi: it was an LPH thing - it seems to work but (i.e. it remembers if you clicked it or not) but no idea what use it is! :)
[18:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jyhem * r39570 /trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [FIX] Don't allow empty boxes
[18:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jyhem * r39571 /branches/8.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [bp/r39570][FIX] Don't allow empty boxes
[18:01]< xavi> thks jonnyb, yes I figured it out that part by just clicking on it in one page at doc.t.o
[18:01]< xavi> but I don't get how a user can list his favorite pages
[18:01]< jonnyb> no, me neither - it uses relations so they're in the database there somewhere
[18:01]< xavi> the doc.t.o/tiki8 page refers to a revision number:
[18:01]< xavi> http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=35285
[18:01]< xavi> and there it says "work in progress"...
[18:01]< xavi> so maybe unfinished feature by lph
[18:01]< xavi> another case for another Tiki Webinar for the future :-)
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[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39572 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_customsearch.php: [ENH] custom search: New param to prevent form searching on page load (and change case of destdiv to be same as the others)
[19:01]< xavi> see you later
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[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39573 /branches/8.x/tiki-read_article.php: 
[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: [FIX]article: html headings are no more displayed as html: propage the dirty
[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: (sorry jonny) 36012: in tiki6 <b>h</b> was not correctly parsed (< instead of
[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: &lt;): TODO in 9: delete this temporaly preference and store is_html in the
[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: database
[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39574 /branches/8.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]article: better fix to 39573 and 36012 now that the tiki parser is working. article has always been html.
[19:01]<@sylvieg> jonny - hope you agree with this commit ^^^^
[19:01]<@sylvieg> p
[19:01]< jonnyb> hi sylvieg - i'll check but articles have been a mess as far as html goes for ages - my fix was only a patch really
[19:01]<@sylvieg> the patch I propose is to have only html artic;e as the tags can be striiped
[19:01]<@sylvieg> like this the behavior is the same thatn tiki6
[19:01]< jonnyb> i thought you had to click a checkbox to add html otherwise it uses striptags, so hence the pref
[19:01]<@sylvieg> nono the allowhtml is only to strip or not some tags
[19:01]<@sylvieg> the label was not correct - or the code ...
[19:01]< jonnyb> are you going to get rid of the pref then too?
[19:01]<@sylvieg> yes done
[19:01] * sylvieg wondering if I have to clean the database...
[19:01]<@sylvieg> oops forgot to commit
[19:01]< jonnyb> :P
[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39575 /branches/8.x/ (lib/prefs/article.php templates/admin/include_articles.tpl): [FIX]article: missing to 39574 - delete the pref
[19:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39576 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [merge/r39575,r3974][FIX]article: articles have always been html
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[19:01]< Jyhem_laptop_> Polom
[19:01]< jonnyb> hi Jyhem_laptop_ 
[19:01]< Jyhem_laptop_> Hi jonnyb
[20:01]<@sylvieg> btw: has somebody IE9? somebody reported both editors were very buggy .. but I can not see I have only window XP and can not run IE9 - need to spend money for microsoft :-(
[20:01]< jonnyb> sorry no, same for me
[20:01]< Jyhem_laptop_> no IE9 either
[20:01] * Jyhem_laptop_ is going to restart and test BBB :-)
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[20:01]<@sylvieg> when is the meeting? in 1:45 h?
[20:01]< jonnyb> i thought it was in 2:45 hours (21:00 GMT)
[20:01]< jonnyb> sorry, you're right - can't count
[20:01]< marclaporte1> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2012&month=1&day=19&hour=21&min=0&sec=0
[20:01]< jonnyb> 1:45 (hoping i can stay awake! :) )
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[20:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39577 /branches/8.x/templates/tiki-edit_article.tpl: [FIX]article: if heading only shows full toolbar - as no concurrence with teh other textarea
[20:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39578 /trunk/templates/tiki-edit_article.tpl: [merge/r39577][FIX]article: if heading only shows full toolbar - as no concurrence with teh other textarea
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[20:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: robertplummer * r39579 /trunk/lib/core/Feed/ForwardLink.php: [FIX] Changed a few button text strings
[20:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: robertplummer * r39580 /trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Some parser cleanup, working great now
[20:01]< changi> polom
[20:01]< changi> thursday night
[20:01]< changi> :)
[20:01]< jonnyb> hi changi 
[20:01]< changi> rodrigoprimo: did you get my email ? 
[20:01]< rodrigoprimo> hi changi
[20:01]< rodrigoprimo> changi: yes, I saw it, thanks. I didn't had time to test it yet.
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[21:01]< changi> marclaporte1: concerning legacydev, it will work after the cache is flush
[21:01]< Jyhem_laptop> hi changi :-)
[21:01]< changi> Jyhem_laptop: hi
[21:01]< changi> Jyhem_laptop: what's up
[21:01]< Jyhem_laptop> just tested BBB → works ! :-)
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[21:01]< marclaporte1> changi:  can we flush cache via command line?  we would need for demo.tiki.org as well..
[21:01]< Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Access across workspaces - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42947
[21:01]< changi> marclaporte1: in fact, xmlrpc has a cache that i don't find on the FS, last time the problem was solved by waiting a little bit :)
[21:01]< changi> demo is not on the community server
[21:01]< changi> people who host it just need to create a new entry on tiki.org and create a key
[21:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: robertplummer * r39581 /trunk/lib/core/ (12 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Cleanup on JisonParser directory, now everything is working and parsing php and js without conflics, AWESOME!
[21:01]< changi> RobertPlummerMob: nice
[21:01]< RobertPlummerMob> Output php + js in 2 different parsers.
[21:01]< RobertPlummerMob> changi: 4 files almost at the same time
[21:01]< marclaporte1> changi: I don't want InterTiki for demo, but I do want to clear cache after daily upgrade :-)
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[21:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: robertplummer * r39582 /trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php: [FIX] Updated class pointer
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[21:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: robertplummer * r39583 /trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/ (6 files): [FIX] Final resting place for new parser files
[21:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: robertplummer * r39584 /trunk/lib/rangy_tiki/ (4 files): [FIX] Removed un-needed files since JisonParser is now better unified in a single location
[21:01]< CIA-83> tikiwiki: robertplummer * r39585 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_report.php: [FIX] A function name fix, not honestly needed, but there was a conflict between this and using ForwardLink Protocol
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[21:01]< Bernard1> hi is it still time to commit ?(multilingual initials filter)
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