[0:11] fabricius A while ago I've read about the possibility to configure several Tikis with one central file
[0:12] fabricius I lost the document, do not find the page in the Tiki docs and forgot how the file is called
[0:12] fabricius can anybody give me a hint where to find this page/file?
[0:15] fabricius I am NOT talking about TRIM or Multitiki, but about kind of an ini file
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[0:51] Jyhem_laptop fabricius: http://doc.tiki.org/System+Configuration
[0:51] fabricius thx Jyhem that was what I was looking for
[0:57] Jyhem_laptop np
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[16:33] fabricius If I do a fresh installation via SVN and if on demo.tiki.org which is run with SVN a feature is working or no Error appearing, shouldn't the feature work aswell in my freshly checked out installation?
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[18:25] fabricius hey marclaporte
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[20:24] fabricius hi Bernard1
[20:26] fabricius Bernard1: did you get my email? just was thinking, if your menu issue shouldn't work in a single module with some smarty code
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[20:39] Bernard1 Hi
[20:40] Bernard1 Hi fabricius i was answering… i'll do it here
[20:40] Bernard1 Hey Torsten,
[20:40] Bernard1 I talk about this option in my message and i'm well aware of the possibility. (tks anyway :) )
[20:40] Bernard1 In fact i used this very same code you are suggesting since TW7.
[20:40] Bernard1 I (we) found out that using a module in a module can be hazardous
[20:40] Bernard1 For example check http://www.shocksite.com where modules are used in a custom module.
[20:40] Bernard1 nobox and notitle don't apply and i had to force display:none for #header .box h3.box-title.
[20:40] Bernard1 So the idea is to avoid the custom module solution.
[20:40] Bernard1 Bernard
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[21:23] fabricius Hi Bernard1 , sorry for late answer ( have been in different areas of my desktop ;-) )
[21:25] fabricius I do not understand your point "module in a module", as in the given custom module with smarty code there are only menus inherited and not modules
[21:26] fabricius what is the problem with that? and how it would be possible at all to net modules in another module - or do I miss s.th. bigtime?
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[21:32] Bernard1 fabricius: …. Mmm ah ok :)
[21:32] Bernard1 i misread
[21:33] fabricius :-)
[21:33] fabricius what did you read?
[21:34] Bernard1 i read {menu id=44 type=horiz css=y} and thought it was module
[21:34] Bernard1 you are right this is Smarty code
[21:36] Bernard1 {if $user == "admin"}{menu id=42 css=y type=horiz}{else}{menu id=43 css=y type=horiz}{/if}
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[21:43] Bernard1 fabricius: but that's not over… now menu styles are not applied properly… :(
[21:45] fabricius which kind of styles youmean? normal css? must be possible to find a few custom css lines that get this sorted
[21:45] fabricius if you want to go in this direction, I could have a look and play with the css
[21:45] fabricius you'd have to tell me how it should look like
[21:46] fabricius design should not be a problem, once it works technically
[21:46] fabricius what theme you are using?
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[21:46] Bernard1 fivealive
[21:46] Bernard1 modifed
[21:47] Bernard1 menu_id=tiki-top
[21:50] fabricius Tiki version? 8.x, pre-9?
[21:51] Bernard1 i'm om TW8, it should look like http://www.avtalyon.org.il/6x.html but it look like http://www.avtalyon.org.il
[21:52] Bernard1 wait… i have a strange feeling.
[21:52] Bernard1 i use svn branch 8 but on the install it says something "pre"
[21:52] Bernard1 how can i be sure ?
[21:53] Bernard1 Last update from SVN (SVN pre 8.4)
[21:54] fabricius http://www.avtalyon.org.il/ is a blank page
[21:54] fabricius isn't it?
[21:55] Bernard1 … are you using chrome ?
[21:55] fabricius mozilla
[21:56] Bernard1 i had some issues with chrome, but now i can see it on chrome, ff, safari
[21:56] fabricius and chrome - mostly both using parallel
[21:57] Bernard1 just check on a win7 machine
[21:57] Bernard1 ff and ie9 ok
[21:57] fabricius funny in ff: Required features: feature_wiki. If you do not have the privileges to activate these features, ask the site administrator.
[21:57] fabricius http://www.avtalyon.org.il/Home
[21:58] fabricius http://www.avtalyon.org.il/HomePage aswell
[21:58] Bernard1 ?
[21:58] Bernard1 Home = there is no such page
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[21:59] Bernard1 http://www.avtalyon.org.il/HomePage just fine
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[22:0] Bernard1 i have a blank page on Opera (mac) only
[22:0] fabricius no it isn't - I should send you a screenshot
[22:0] Bernard1 ah no hopefully it is working fine too
[22:1] Bernard1 i believe you :)
[22:1] Bernard1 i just don;t get how this can be
[22:1] fabricius in chrome I see the strange behaviour  of the menu
[22:3] Bernard1 ok, well it turns to be a box and not a menu anymore
[22:3] fabricius Bernard1: is that what we see after you applied the smartycode based custom menu or is it caused by uṕdating 6 to 8 as it was?
[22:5] fabricius in that (second) case it shouldn't be a massive problem problem
[22:5] Bernard1 if you see flowers and menu items are white this is after i set a custom module with : {if $user == "admin"}{menu id=42 css=y type=horiz}{else}{menu id=43 css=y type=horiz}{/if}
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[22:13] Bernard1 fabricius: to complete my answer there is no connection with the update, if i set the menu as module and remove the custom code then i have the same menu than in 6x (fivealive type)
[22:15] fabricius but why the login module is affected and why I cannot see the website in firefox (Error: Required features: feature_wiki)? And how a feature can be there in chrome and not in firefox?
[22:15] fabricius something strange is going on
[22:16] fabricius when you applied the custom module, did you put in the parameter nobox=y ?
[22:16] fabricius if not, could you do so pls?
[22:17] Bernard1 this is the issue i mentioned earlier with Chrome (and only chrome from what i can see) the login module is weird
[22:17] fabricius the whole thing is weird
[22:18] fabricius did you try this:
[22:18] fabricius {if $group eq "Editors"}{menu id=44 type=horiz css=y}{else}{menu id=43 type=horiz
[22:18] fabricius css=y}{/if}
[22:18] Bernard1 fabricius: i have tested it already but for you :) you can check
[22:19] fabricius nearly there
[22:20] fabricius what's with the other problem - anyway not an option if a website is only visible with one single browser
[22:21] fabricius the nobax thing would be fine - you could get the design of the original
[22:21] Bernard1 i just set : {if $group eq "Admin"}{menu id=42 type=horiz css=y}{else}{menu id=43 type=horiz css=y}{/if}
[22:21] fabricius nobox - not nobax - fighting with my keyboard
[22:21] Bernard1 same
[22:21] Bernard1 :)
[22:22] Bernard1 i mean same display
[22:24] Bernard1 tiki-top is missing
[22:24] Bernard1 i mean in the menu module i have to set
[22:24] Bernard1 menu_id = tiki-top
[22:25] Bernard1 tiki-top is the css class that contain menu background and seperator
[22:28] fabricius arrgl
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[22:28] Bernard1 if i replace <div id="mod-sitemenu_custom_codeo1" > with <div="tiki-top"> it is ok
[22:30] Bernard1 i can modify the stylesheet but this is starting to look like Piza Tower with a lot of scotch and glue.
[22:33] fabricius Bernard1: #topbar_modules {background: #003D14;min-width:50px;}
[22:33] fabricius makes it much better
[22:34] fabricius the real problem is not the stylesheet
[22:34] fabricius a) I am wondering what happens with the login - might be a minor problem aswell
[22:34] fabricius WHAT THE F* makes the website disappear in Firefox
[22:35] fabricius WHAT THE H*
[22:35] Bernard1 :) your firefox
[22:35] fabricius makes the feature_wiki switched off in MY firefox???
[22:39] Bernard1 ?
[22:39] Bernard1 btw i have set the custom module back to {if $user == "admin"}{menu id=42 css=y type=horiz}{else}{menu id=43 css=y type=horiz}{/if} (only menu 43 was displayed in any case) now it this is good
[22:40] Bernard1 refreshing cache
[22:41] Bernard1 ok i have background but not the menu like it was...
[22:42] fabricius and I have menu but no background
[22:42] fabricius and only in chrome
[22:42] Bernard1 ...
[22:42] Bernard1 i have set off apc cache
[22:42] fabricius no more error message in firefox on HomePage, but a blank page now
[22:42] Bernard1 also
[22:43] fabricius background there now
[22:43] * Bernard1 think we should have an option : module enable/disable anyway :)
[22:45] fabricius some minor adjustments needed now: move the cssmenu a bit; font-weight: bold; width of the options, dividers
[22:45] fabricius ahhhhhhh the website appears in firefox!!!
[22:46] Bernard1 ok added #topbar_modules .cssmenu_horiz li a to the existing css now look good
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[22:47] Bernard1 when admin log the menu is on 2 lines, the second one is still with white background, but i can live with that
[22:48] fabricius there is a strange character (or a hebrew character) "under" the arrow that shows additional flipping submenus
[22:48] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39953 10/trunk/lib/menubuilder/menulib.php: [merge/r39952]FIX]menu: export the canonical name not the long url
[22:48] Bernard1 funny, setting OFF apc cache solved my proble of login bix in chrome
[22:48] fabricius what is apc cache?
[22:48] Bernard1 should be here (i dpn;t have it) thet is a text indent : 999px
[22:49] Bernard1 a very good php cache… worked fine so far with tw6
[22:49] fabricius Bernard1: please check the submenus - shadow and background must be repaired
[22:49] Bernard1 fabricius: i will stop experimenting this solution… now the submenu background is gone
[22:50] fabricius hehe
[22:50] Bernard1 :)
[22:50] fabricius just said
[22:50] Bernard1 this is too much customizatio nand tweaking.
[22:50] fabricius I'd say it is just some CSS
[22:50] Bernard1 yes :)
[22:50] fabricius I do such every day - a bit boring
[22:50] Bernard1 i lost faith :)
[22:51] fabricius you could do that another day - maybe it will be easier than coding a new visibility preference
[22:52] fabricius would you say, that technically the custom module with smarty is working? Apart from necessary CSS changes?
[22:52] Bernard1 i appreciate your help but i really don't think it should be like this. After all if i consider that all start from an update between tw6 and tw8 it should have been smoother
[22:53] Bernard1 yes it is working… but this is a lot of energy for a simple nogroup restriction.
[22:54] fabricius the energy seems to be a onetime job because of some css necessity
[22:55] fabricius because the custom module triggers different selectors than the menu module
[22:56] fabricius if it really was this, I would not aginize and just customise the theme a bit - but that is just my personal opportunity
[22:56] fabricius what is the alternative?
[22:56] fabricius coding a nogroup restriction?
[22:57] Bernard1 coding a nogroup restriction? = y
[22:58] Bernard1 i have many case where it is useful and help to get to the point without haveing too much work
[22:59] Bernard1 in the meantime i found a trick
[23:0] Bernard1 admin language is en other users are he. So i use visibility setting and it work.
[23:2] Bernard1 Previously the website was monolinguale he only (my admin was still in en modified in the db), but because of some changes i had to activate multilingual to continue have my admin en and the others he.
[23:3] Bernard1 got to go to sleep. :)
[23:4] fabricius ok
[23:4] fabricius bye