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[2:1] fabricius hi RobertPlummerMob
[2:49] RobertPlummerMob polom fabricius
[2:49] fabricius :-D
[2:50] fabricius I am doing new installations via svn and they are all damaged
[2:50] fabricius arrgll
[2:58] fabricius RobertPlummerMob thx for explaining the link stuff ;-)
[2:59] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: No problem, I do my best.
[2:59] RobertPlummerMob We aim at making something somewhat complex... simple.
[2:59] RobertPlummerMob dynamic-interlinking websites.
[3:0] RobertPlummerMob That update as time goes on.
[3:0] RobertPlummerMob Automatically.
[3:0] fabricius I still need more info and a better understanding - but I think, I start to understand the idea and some of the opportunities
[3:0] fabricius many questions
[3:0] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Sometimes I don't understand it ;)
[3:0] fabricius hehe
[3:0] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: The code is the confusing part.
[3:1] RobertPlummerMob I can't wait to see it in the wild.
[3:1] fabricius but ... what is updating? I thought it is just kind of keeping the history
[3:1] RobertPlummerMob ;)
[3:1] fabricius maybe I will be one of the first trying productive
[3:1] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: When you change website a, website b  goes always to the latest website a, and website a is told that we are looking for a phrase in the page.
[3:2] fabricius ok
[3:2] RobertPlummerMob Then website a opens up the revisions and starts looking through them, 1 by 1, parsing each one to eventually find where the phrase last existed.
[3:2] RobertPlummerMob Then it forwards the user there.,
[3:2] fabricius aha
[3:2] RobertPlummerMob That is where the parser is really used.
[3:2] fabricius and when the phrase is still in the newest version, it will be there
[3:3] RobertPlummerMob Exactly!
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[3:3] fabricius but that needs systems with history ... so wikis, but not really classical cms
[3:3] fabricius no history - lost contact
[3:3] fabricius or lost info
[3:4] fabricius link to nowhere
[3:4] fabricius what is with an obsolete textlink?
[3:4] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: The textlink stores the linked data in the clipboard data, like a backup of the original.
[3:5] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: So if website 1 goes down, you still have part of what was important.
[3:5] fabricius ah
[3:5] RobertPlummerMob For system that want to integrate it, a history is required.
[3:5] RobertPlummerMob and the same for website a with backup.
[3:6] RobertPlummerMob website a gets a complete backup of the info from website b
[3:6] fabricius a good start woulod be to link certain tikis of similar topics
[3:6] RobertPlummerMob Right, that would be ideal, but the limits are endless.
[3:6] RobertPlummerMob I can't wait to see things like linked-links.
[3:6] fabricius complete backup of what?
[3:6] RobertPlummerMob the testlink
[3:6] fabricius ah
[3:6] RobertPlummerMob textlink
[3:6] RobertPlummerMob and the forwardlink
[3:6] fabricius all textlinks
[3:6] RobertPlummerMob lol
[3:6] RobertPlummerMob no no
[3:6] fabricius hehe
[3:6] fabricius no?
[3:7] RobertPlummerMob The textlink doesn't really "update", because it is from an author.
[3:7] RobertPlummerMob Thus the name.
[3:7] RobertPlummerMob it is sort of static
[3:7] RobertPlummerMob the forwardlink however, does.
[3:7] fabricius in what way it does?
[3:8] RobertPlummerMob it automatically pushes forward in time as the revisions change but the phrase stays.
[3:8] fabricius what happens if I do not delete, but change the sentence?
[3:8] RobertPlummerMob The content would no longer be relevant.
[3:8] fabricius ah -> info: I am not on v324 anymore, but on v325 now
[3:9] RobertPlummerMob If the phrase that was linked stayed the same, the it would dynamically update.
[3:9] fabricius and if deleted in v326 - from that point on B would lookup A on v325
[3:9] RobertPlummerMob That is another part of it.
[3:10] RobertPlummerMob If you turn on forwardlink, eventually deleting revisions will not be an option.
[3:10] RobertPlummerMob It has to have something to link to.
[3:10] fabricius even if the page on A gets t v2967, then B still would lookup or find on v325
[3:10] RobertPlummerMob It would try ;)
[3:11] RobertPlummerMob It may take a few minutes, but it would eventually find it.
[3:11] RobertPlummerMob Unless you can compose a way to parse without using hardly any processing power.
[3:11] fabricius yes that was what I though a second ago - when I delete parts of the history or the page included all history then there is nothing left to find
[3:11] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: We have to have a standard.
[3:12] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: ideally you turn it on because you want someone to find what you have and expound upon it.
[3:12] RobertPlummerMob But we can't make computers think, we have to give them something to find.
[3:13] RobertPlummerMob Hey buddy, I'm going to sleep here in the states, let me know if you have any other question.
[3:13] fabricius but what is with any control in what context my content is linked - especially what links to my content in whatever context?
[3:13] fabricius It is an interesting and promising project
[3:13] fabricius so sleep well
[3:14] fabricius you need to be fit for my next questions ;-)
[3:16] RobertPlummerMob "but what is with any control in what context my content is linked - especially what links to my content in whatever context?" - explain
[3:16] RobertPlummerMob How do I find or obtain the text that is linked?
[3:17] RobertPlummerMob Or how do I know where it came from?
[3:19] fabricius what I do not yet understand, is, if everybody can link any content of my website and kind of "comment" and backlink it from his site
[3:19] fabricius and my site then automatically links to their sites
[3:20] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Right now it is only content within a wiki page, not the content outside of it.
[3:20] fabricius or is that mor a process, where two webmasters who know and trust each other interact respectively give each other permissions
[3:21] RobertPlummerMob I need to understand that part a bit more as well.
[3:22] RobertPlummerMob My biggest problems were creating the thing, administration is really another part of it that is currently being designed.
[3:22] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Keep it up, I love the questions, but I'm out for tonight.
[3:22] fabricius jo man
[3:22] fabricius was a pleasure
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[13:13] fabricius polom
[14:23] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39954 10/branches/8.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]newsletters: checkbox html to be able to send html: TODO use ajax for clip now to memorize all the checkboxes
[14:24] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39955 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [merge/r39954][FIX]newsletters: checkbox html to be able to send html: TODO use ajax for clip now to memorize all the checkboxes
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[14:25] sylvieg Bernard1: can you try the newsletter?
[14:29] Bernard1 You have made some change ? I try on Demo ?
[14:29] Bernard1 (hello Sylvie :) )
[14:49] Bernard1 Hi Sylvie i have tested it and noted the new check box (is html) some remarks
[14:50] Bernard1 1/ The from of the newsletter is weird "=?UTF-8?Q?=D7=90=D7=91=D7=98=D7=9C=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9F@mx.shocksite.com"
[14:50] Bernard1 2/ Using the file gallery module reset the newsletter to a blank page (has been corrected previously in 6x)
[14:51] sylvieg 1/ do you use the local from or the default?
[14:51] Bernard1 3/ The preview is fine but the email i get display the html code
[14:51] Bernard1 1/ yes as usual
[14:51] sylvieg :-(
[14:52] sylvieg 1/ yes to what - the question as a or...
[14:52] sylvieg 2/ I do not understand
[14:53] Bernard1 -> your question: 1/ do you use the local from or the default? yes as usual
[14:53] * sylvieg wish a svn up on demo.tiki
[14:53] Bernard1 :)
[14:54] * Bernard1 so many think to wish so little time
[14:54] RobertPlummer sylvieg: Get a chance to check out the latest with forwardlink?
[14:57] Bernard1 1/ i tried also to set a specific from get the same result
[14:57] Bernard1 3/ i confirmed and reproduced; i enter only HTML code and set the check box "is HTML" the preview is fine the mails display html code.
[14:58] sylvieg RobertPlummer: 2 weeks ago I did - but not recently
[14:58] RobertPlummer sylvieg: What did you think?
[14:59] RobertPlummer sylvieg: Not to much has changed since then, a lot of research for the next phase.
[14:59] * sylvieg wondering if I committed everything -..
[14:59] RobertPlummer sylvieg: There are a few components missing, like displaying meta data, but outside of that the core functioanlity should all be there.
[15:0] RobertPlummer sylvieg: Can we setup a meeting to get together on it?
[15:0] RobertPlummer i need to head out, think of a time and email me it.
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[15:52] mikado hi
[15:53] Guest82227 hi
[15:53] Guest82227 i'm looking for some help in my css sheet...
[15:55] Guest82227 is there anyone there ?
[16:20] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r39956 10/branches/8.x/templates/tiki-admin_trackers.tpl: [FIX] [bp39948] Add load function for tracker replace dialog to initialise the category tree (jonny's original trunk fix)
[16:23] sylvieg Bernard1: effectively the newsleter is parsed again.. I will need to change the database for that :-(
[16:28] Bernard1 ok
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[17:53] marclaporte polom
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[18:47] fabricius polom
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[19:29] Bernard1 polom :)
[20:10] sylvieg do we have a plugin to display the current date?
[20:13] marclaporte1 Maybe PluginSmarty, while passing $date?
[20:25] sylvieg thx marc
[20:26] marclaporte1 if it works, can you document?  Because I'll want to do this in the future :-)
[20:28] sylvieg SMARTY works only with function ...
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[21:1] sylvieg do we have a kaltura on a tiki site - my son wants to edit a video?
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[21:53] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39958 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_now.php: [ENH]NOW: to display the courant date
[22:11] sylvieg thx marc
[22:59] fabricius I want to allow Anonymous to view ODF, but I do not know the permission - any body knows?
[23:56] NachoMahma courant? Perhaps that was supposed to be "current"?
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