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fabricius: hi RobertPlummerMob
RobertPlummerMob: polom fabricius
fabricius: :-D
<br> I am doing new installations via svn and they are all damaged
<br> arrgll
<br> RobertPlummerMob thx for explaining the link stuff ;-)
RobertPlummerMob: <u>fabricius</u>: No problem, I do my best.
<br> We aim at making something somewhat complex... simple.
<br> dynamic-interlinking websites.
<br> That update as time goes on.
<br> Automatically.
fabricius: I still need more info and a better understanding - but I think, I start to understand the idea and some of the opportunities
<br> many questions
RobertPlummerMob: <u>fabricius</u>: Sometimes I don't understand it ;)
fabricius: hehe
RobertPlummerMob: <u>fabricius</u>: The code is the confusing part.
<br> I can't wait to see it in the wild.
fabricius: but ... what is updating? I thought it is just kind of keeping the history
RobertPlummerMob: ;)
fabricius: maybe I will be one of the first trying productive
RobertPlummerMob: <u>fabricius</u>: When you change website a, website b goes always to the latest website a, and website a is told that we are looking for a phrase in the page.
fabricius: ok
RobertPlummerMob: Then website a opens up the revisions and starts looking through them, 1 by 1, parsing each one to eventually find where the phrase last existed.
<br> Then it forwards the user there.,
fabricius: aha
RobertPlummerMob: That is where the parser is really used.
fabricius: and when the phrase is still in the newest version, it will be there
RobertPlummerMob: Exactly!
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fabricius: but that needs systems with history ... so wikis, but not really classical cms
<br> no history - lost contact
<br> or lost info
<br> link to nowhere
<br> what is with an obsolete textlink?
RobertPlummerMob: <u>fabricius</u>: The textlink stores the linked data in the clipboard data, like a backup of the original.
<br> <u>fabricius</u>: So if website 1 goes down, you still have part of what was important.
fabricius: ah
RobertPlummerMob: For system that want to integrate it, a history is required.
<br> and the same for website a with backup.
<br> website a gets a complete backup of the info from website b
fabricius: a good start woulod be to link certain tikis of similar topics
RobertPlummerMob: Right, that would be ideal, but the limits are endless.
<br> I can't wait to see things like linked-links.
fabricius: complete backup of what?
RobertPlummerMob: the testlink
fabricius: ah
RobertPlummerMob: textlink
<br> and the forwardlink
fabricius: all textlinks
RobertPlummerMob: lol
<br> no no
fabricius: hehe
<br> no?
RobertPlummerMob: The textlink doesn't really "update", because it is from an author.
<br> Thus the name.
<br> it is sort of static
<br> the forwardlink however, does.
fabricius: in what way it does?
RobertPlummerMob: it automatically pushes forward in time as the revisions change but the phrase stays.
fabricius: what happens if I do not delete, but change the sentence?
RobertPlummerMob: The content would no longer be relevant.
fabricius: ah -> info: I am not on v324 anymore, but on v325 now
RobertPlummerMob: If the phrase that was linked stayed the same, the it would dynamically update.
fabricius: and if deleted in v326 - from that point on B would lookup A on v325
RobertPlummerMob: That is another part of it.
<br> If you turn on forwardlink, eventually deleting revisions will not be an option.
<br> It has to have something to link to.
fabricius: even if the page on A gets t v2967, then B still would lookup or find on v325
RobertPlummerMob: It would try ;)
<br> It may take a few minutes, but it would eventually find it.
<br> Unless you can compose a way to parse without using hardly any processing power.
fabricius: yes that was what I though a second ago - when I delete parts of the history or the page included all history then there is nothing left to find
RobertPlummerMob: <u>fabricius</u>: We have to have a standard.
<br> <u>fabricius</u>: ideally you turn it on because you want someone to find what you have and expound upon it.
<br> But we can't make computers think, we have to give them something to find.
<br> Hey buddy, I'm going to sleep here in the states, let me know if you have any other question.
fabricius: but what is with any control in what context my content is linked - especially what links to my content in whatever context?
<br> It is an interesting and promising project
<br> so sleep well
<br> you need to be fit for my next questions ;-)
RobertPlummerMob: "but what is with any control in what context my content is linked - especially what links to my content in whatever context?" - explain
<br> How do I find or obtain the text that is linked?
<br> Or how do I know where it came from?
fabricius: what I do not yet understand, is, if everybody can link any content of my website and kind of "comment" and backlink it from his site
<br> and my site then automatically links to their sites
RobertPlummerMob: <u>fabricius</u>: Right now it is only content within a wiki page, not the content outside of it.
fabricius: or is that mor a process, where two webmasters who know and trust each other interact respectively give each other permissions
RobertPlummerMob: I need to understand that part a bit more as well.
<br> My biggest problems were creating the thing, administration is really another part of it that is currently being designed.
<br> <u>fabricius</u>: Keep it up, I love the questions, but I'm out for tonight.
fabricius: jo man
<br> was a pleasure
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<br> polom
CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39954 10/branches/8.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]newsletters: checkbox html to be able to send html: TODO use ajax for clip now to memorize all the checkboxes
<br> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39955 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [merge/r39954][FIX]newsletters: checkbox html to be able to send html: TODO use ajax for clip now to memorize all the checkboxes
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sylvieg: <u>Bernard1</u>: can you try the newsletter?
Bernard1: You have made some change ? I try on Demo ?
<br> (hello Sylvie :) )
<br> Hi Sylvie i have tested it and noted the new check box (is html) some remarks
<br> 1/ The from of the newsletter is weird "=?UTF-8?Q?=D7=90=D7=91=D7=98=D7=9C=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9F@mx.shocksite.com"
<br> 2/ Using the file gallery module reset the newsletter to a blank page (has been corrected previously in 6x)
sylvieg: 1/ do you use the local from or the default?
Bernard1: 3/ The preview is fine but the email i get display the html code
<br> 1/ yes as usual
sylvieg: :-(
<br> 1/ yes to what - the question as a or...
<br> 2/ I do not understand
Bernard1: -> your question: 1/ do you use the local from or the default? yes as usual
-: sylvieg wish a svn up on demo.tiki
Bernard1: :)
-: Bernard1 so many think to wish so little time
RobertPlummer: <u>sylvieg</u>: Get a chance to check out the latest with forwardlink?
Bernard1: 1/ i tried also to set a specific from get the same result
<br> 3/ i confirmed and reproduced; i enter only HTML code and set the check box "is HTML" the preview is fine the mails display html code.
sylvieg: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: 2 weeks ago I did - but not recently
RobertPlummer: <u>sylvieg</u>: What did you think?
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: Not to much has changed since then, a lot of research for the next phase.
-: sylvieg wondering if I committed everything -..
RobertPlummer: <u>sylvieg</u>: There are a few components missing, like displaying meta data, but outside of that the core functioanlity should all be there.
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: Can we setup a meeting to get together on it?
<br> i need to head out, think of a time and email me it.
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<br> hi
Guest82227: hi
<br> i'm looking for some help in my css sheet...
<br> is there anyone there ?
CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r39956 10/branches/8.x/templates/tiki-admin_trackers.tpl: [FIX] [bp39948] Add load function for tracker replace dialog to initialise the category tree (jonny's original trunk fix)
sylvieg: <u>Bernard1</u>: effectively the newsleter is parsed again.. I will need to change the database for that :-(
Bernard1: ok
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Bernard1: polom :)
sylvieg: do we have a plugin to display the current date?
marclaporte1: Maybe PluginSmarty, while passing $date?
sylvieg: thx marc
marclaporte1: if it works, can you document? Because I'll want to do this in the future :-)
sylvieg: SMARTY works only with function ...
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CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39957 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_articles.tpl: [ENH]articles: some more classes around author... + a class article0, article1 to have different render depening of the position
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sylvieg: do we have a kaltura on a tiki site - my son wants to edit a video?
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marclaporte: tv.tiki.org
CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39958 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_now.php: [ENH]NOW: to display the courant date
sylvieg: thx marc
fabricius: I want to allow Anonymous to view ODF, but I do not know the permission - any body knows?
NachoMahma: courant? Perhaps that was supposed to be "current"?
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