[1:13] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [1:16] marclaporte1 joined #tikiwiki [1:30] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [1:40] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [1:51] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [1:51] RobertPlummerMob joined #tikiwiki [2:1] fabricius hi RobertPlummerMob [2:49] RobertPlummerMob polom fabricius [2:49] fabricius :-D [2:50] fabricius I am doing new installations via svn and they are all damaged [2:50] fabricius arrgll [2:58] fabricius RobertPlummerMob thx for explaining the link stuff ;-) [2:59] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: No problem, I do my best. [2:59] RobertPlummerMob We aim at making something somewhat complex... simple. [2:59] RobertPlummerMob dynamic-interlinking websites. [3:0] RobertPlummerMob That update as time goes on. [3:0] RobertPlummerMob Automatically. [3:0] fabricius I still need more info and a better understanding - but I think, I start to understand the idea and some of the opportunities [3:0] fabricius many questions [3:0] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Sometimes I don't understand it ;) [3:0] fabricius hehe [3:0] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: The code is the confusing part. [3:1] RobertPlummerMob I can't wait to see it in the wild. [3:1] fabricius but ... what is updating? I thought it is just kind of keeping the history [3:1] RobertPlummerMob ;) [3:1] fabricius maybe I will be one of the first trying productive [3:1] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: When you change website a, website b goes always to the latest website a, and website a is told that we are looking for a phrase in the page. [3:2] fabricius ok [3:2] RobertPlummerMob Then website a opens up the revisions and starts looking through them, 1 by 1, parsing each one to eventually find where the phrase last existed. [3:2] RobertPlummerMob Then it forwards the user there., [3:2] fabricius aha [3:2] RobertPlummerMob That is where the parser is really used. [3:2] fabricius and when the phrase is still in the newest version, it will be there [3:3] RobertPlummerMob Exactly! [3:3] goj_killedByISP joined #tikiwiki [3:3] fabricius but that needs systems with history ... so wikis, but not really classical cms [3:3] fabricius no history - lost contact [3:3] fabricius or lost info [3:4] fabricius link to nowhere [3:4] fabricius what is with an obsolete textlink? [3:4] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: The textlink stores the linked data in the clipboard data, like a backup of the original. [3:5] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: So if website 1 goes down, you still have part of what was important. [3:5] fabricius ah [3:5] RobertPlummerMob For system that want to integrate it, a history is required. [3:5] RobertPlummerMob and the same for website a with backup. [3:6] RobertPlummerMob website a gets a complete backup of the info from website b [3:6] fabricius a good start woulod be to link certain tikis of similar topics [3:6] RobertPlummerMob Right, that would be ideal, but the limits are endless. [3:6] RobertPlummerMob I can't wait to see things like linked-links. [3:6] fabricius complete backup of what? [3:6] RobertPlummerMob the testlink [3:6] fabricius ah [3:6] RobertPlummerMob textlink [3:6] RobertPlummerMob and the forwardlink [3:6] fabricius all textlinks [3:6] RobertPlummerMob lol [3:6] RobertPlummerMob no no [3:6] fabricius hehe [3:6] fabricius no? [3:7] RobertPlummerMob The textlink doesn't really "update", because it is from an author. [3:7] RobertPlummerMob Thus the name. [3:7] RobertPlummerMob it is sort of static [3:7] RobertPlummerMob the forwardlink however, does. [3:7] fabricius in what way it does? [3:8] RobertPlummerMob it automatically pushes forward in time as the revisions change but the phrase stays. [3:8] fabricius what happens if I do not delete, but change the sentence? [3:8] RobertPlummerMob The content would no longer be relevant. [3:8] fabricius ah -> info: I am not on v324 anymore, but on v325 now [3:9] RobertPlummerMob If the phrase that was linked stayed the same, the it would dynamically update. [3:9] fabricius and if deleted in v326 - from that point on B would lookup A on v325 [3:9] RobertPlummerMob That is another part of it. [3:10] RobertPlummerMob If you turn on forwardlink, eventually deleting revisions will not be an option. [3:10] RobertPlummerMob It has to have something to link to. [3:10] fabricius even if the page on A gets t v2967, then B still would lookup or find on v325 [3:10] RobertPlummerMob It would try ;) [3:11] RobertPlummerMob It may take a few minutes, but it would eventually find it. [3:11] RobertPlummerMob Unless you can compose a way to parse without using hardly any processing power. [3:11] fabricius yes that was what I though a second ago - when I delete parts of the history or the page included all history then there is nothing left to find [3:11] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: We have to have a standard. [3:12] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: ideally you turn it on because you want someone to find what you have and expound upon it. [3:12] RobertPlummerMob But we can't make computers think, we have to give them something to find. [3:13] RobertPlummerMob Hey buddy, I'm going to sleep here in the states, let me know if you have any other question. [3:13] fabricius but what is with any control in what context my content is linked - especially what links to my content in whatever context? [3:13] fabricius It is an interesting and promising project [3:13] fabricius so sleep well [3:14] fabricius you need to be fit for my next questions ;-) [3:16] RobertPlummerMob "but what is with any control in what context my content is linked - especially what links to my content in whatever context?" - explain [3:16] RobertPlummerMob How do I find or obtain the text that is linked? [3:17] RobertPlummerMob Or how do I know where it came from? [3:19] fabricius what I do not yet understand, is, if everybody can link any content of my website and kind of "comment" and backlink it from his site [3:19] fabricius and my site then automatically links to their sites [3:20] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Right now it is only content within a wiki page, not the content outside of it. [3:20] fabricius or is that mor a process, where two webmasters who know and trust each other interact respectively give each other permissions [3:21] RobertPlummerMob I need to understand that part a bit more as well. [3:22] RobertPlummerMob My biggest problems were creating the thing, administration is really another part of it that is currently being designed. [3:22] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Keep it up, I love the questions, but I'm out for tonight. [3:22] fabricius jo man [3:22] fabricius was a pleasure [4:23] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [8:31] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [11:34] phantomfakeBNC joined #tikiwiki [11:36] phantomfakeBNC joined #tikiwiki [13:13] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [13:13] fabricius polom [14:23] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39954 10/branches/8.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]newsletters: checkbox html to be able to send html: TODO use ajax for clip now to memorize all the checkboxes [14:24] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39955 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [merge/r39954][FIX]newsletters: checkbox html to be able to send html: TODO use ajax for clip now to memorize all the checkboxes [14:24] Bernard1 joined #tikiwiki [14:25] sylvieg Bernard1: can you try the newsletter? [14:29] Bernard1 You have made some change ? I try on Demo ? [14:29] Bernard1 (hello Sylvie :) ) [14:49] Bernard1 Hi Sylvie i have tested it and noted the new check box (is html) some remarks [14:50] Bernard1 1/ The from of the newsletter is weird "=?UTF-8?Q?=D7=90=D7=91=D7=98=D7=9C=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9F@mx.shocksite.com" [14:50] Bernard1 2/ Using the file gallery module reset the newsletter to a blank page (has been corrected previously in 6x) [14:51] sylvieg 1/ do you use the local from or the default? [14:51] Bernard1 3/ The preview is fine but the email i get display the html code [14:51] Bernard1 1/ yes as usual [14:51] sylvieg :-( [14:52] sylvieg 1/ yes to what - the question as a or... [14:52] sylvieg 2/ I do not understand [14:53] Bernard1 -> your question: 1/ do you use the local from or the default? yes as usual [14:53] * sylvieg wish a svn up on demo.tiki [14:53] Bernard1 :) [14:54] * Bernard1 so many think to wish so little time [14:54] RobertPlummer sylvieg: Get a chance to check out the latest with forwardlink? [14:57] Bernard1 1/ i tried also to set a specific from get the same result [14:57] Bernard1 3/ i confirmed and reproduced; i enter only HTML code and set the check box "is HTML" the preview is fine the mails display html code. [14:58] sylvieg RobertPlummer: 2 weeks ago I did - but not recently [14:58] RobertPlummer sylvieg: What did you think? [14:59] RobertPlummer sylvieg: Not to much has changed since then, a lot of research for the next phase. [14:59] * sylvieg wondering if I committed everything -.. [14:59] RobertPlummer sylvieg: There are a few components missing, like displaying meta data, but outside of that the core functioanlity should all be there. [15:0] RobertPlummer sylvieg: Can we setup a meeting to get together on it? [15:0] RobertPlummer i need to head out, think of a time and email me it. [15:36] Caarrie|away joined #tikiwiki [15:52] mikado joined #tikiwiki [15:52] mikado hi [15:53] Guest82227 hi [15:53] Guest82227 i'm looking for some help in my css sheet... [15:55] Guest82227 is there anyone there ? [16:20] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r39956 10/branches/8.x/templates/tiki-admin_trackers.tpl: [FIX] [bp39948] Add load function for tracker replace dialog to initialise the category tree (jonny's original trunk fix) [16:23] sylvieg Bernard1: effectively the newsleter is parsed again.. I will need to change the database for that :-( [16:28] Bernard1 ok [17:3] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [17:28] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [17:53] marclaporte polom [17:54] redflo joined #tikiwiki [18:14] marclaporte1 joined #tikiwiki [18:47] fabricius polom [19:29] sandroandrade joined #tikiwiki [19:29] Bernard1 polom :) [20:10] sylvieg do we have a plugin to display the current date? [20:13] marclaporte1 Maybe PluginSmarty, while passing $date? [20:25] sylvieg thx marc [20:26] marclaporte1 if it works, can you document? Because I'll want to do this in the future :-) [20:28] sylvieg SMARTY works only with function ... [20:37] Bernard1 joined #tikiwiki [20:48] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39957 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_articles.tpl: [ENH]articles: some more classes around author... + a class article0, article1 to have different render depening of the position [20:59] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [21:1] sylvieg do we have a kaltura on a tiki site - my son wants to edit a video? [21:7] pk joined #tikiwiki [21:40] marclaporte tv.tiki.org [21:53] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r39958 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_now.php: [ENH]NOW: to display the courant date [22:11] sylvieg thx marc [22:59] fabricius I want to allow Anonymous to view ODF, but I do not know the permission - any body knows? [23:56] NachoMahma courant? Perhaps that was supposed to be "current"? [23:59] fabricius joined #tikiwiki