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   luciash: polom
   <br> <u>fabricius</u>: how do you mean that Q ?
   fabricius: hi
   <br> what luciash ?  ... was afIRC concentrating on prezitation tools and frameworks
   <br> what you are referring onto luciash ?
   <br> misstyped Jquery? jquery? JQuery?
   luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: i was referring to 20:39
   <br> Q as in Question
   -: fabricius is checking
   fabricius: ah
   <br> I did not mean SVN &lt;- misstyped, I did mean -&gt; SVG
   <br> I am working on prezitations
   <br> researching and testing
   luciash: ah SVG, well, i have some knowledge but depends ...
   fabricius: JessyInk and Sozi for Inkscape, dizzy.js, impress.js, jmpress.js, zoomooz - maybe I need some advice or discussion with a coder who has some experience
   <br> ideas are related with including s.th. to slideshows or connect with draw or whatsoever route to implement prezi like behaviour/features/design/effects in Tiki
   <br> offline / online editing - I am collecting information, have a close look at apps and frameworks, but i am not a coder
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   luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: neither am i :)
   fabricius: but you did not need 40 minutes to think about if you were?
   <br> *kidding*
   <br> hey marclaporte : impress.js and jmpress.js may be interesting, whilst impress seems to use tooo modern functions of CSS 3 and HTML5
   <br> thhttp://www.ohloh.net/p/dizzyjs SVG approach seems to be not so suitable (still testing) and dizzy.js is not developed since a year and very basic in functionality
   <br> oops my f*** keyboard - or I have too fat fingers
   <br> I meant the SVG approach (JessyInk and Sozi and partwise dizzy.js)
   <br> e-mail to the list will follow pretty soon, not yet tested everything
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   marclaporte: <u>fabricius</u>:  put all those links on a wiki page!
   <br> http://shama.github.com/jmpress.js/#/home looks awesome!
   fabricius: I will do so ... all day researching and testing since saturday
   marclaporte: +1 to use modern browser features, as it rewards the good browsers and puts pressure on the others
   <br> yay!
   fabricius: -1 to make a website that locks out more than 50% of potential visitors
   marclaporte: I see this as an extension to S5 Slideshow
   <br> For old browsers, we just fall back to S5
   fabricius: but anyway, I want to try the startpage(s) for wikiforyou with jmpress
   <br> an integration of jmpress into tiki might be an idea, what do you think?
   <br> we need to check with a few coders, if it would be possible to make kind of a GUI with Tiki
   <br> spontaneus idea: making the views with wikipages
   <br> similar than a menupage module
   marclaporte: browser support as reported is pretty good: https://github.com/shama/jmpress.js
   fabricius: yes, much better than impress - as BartoSzopka is especially focussed on the new features of css3 and html5 and does not want to use jquery for impress
   <br> that's why they forked jmpress
   marclaporte: impressive!   http://manuelt.com/#/bored
   fabricius: <u>marclaporte</u>: referring to the branching discussion: I would say, that some stuff I leave with 9, but s.th. I should move further to pre-10, what you think?
   marclaporte: At this point, we are not supposed to add new features!
   fabricius: yes! ... just meaning, that the sites where I am supporting people, I will keep in 9 and some of my own stuff aswell, but maybe I should have a look, where I could move a site to pre-10
   <br> not new features
   <br> <u>btw</u>: http://manuelt.com/#/bored is made with impress - it seems to be a copy of BartoSzopka's demo
   <br> not working in FF8
   <br> but a website = prezitation ... if that was with less coding, like integrated in the cms
   <br> that would be cool
   <br> maybe for 10
   <br> what do you think?
   <br> Ok, downloaded jmpress.js and have the slides-website offline now ... trying to customise the content now
   <br> look here: http://janne.aukia.com/zoomooz/examples/isometric/index.html
   <br> zoomooz.js seems to be interesting aswell
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   fabricius: <u>marclaporte</u>: are you still there? I want to show you s.th.
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   fabricius: Marc - there? Wana show you s.th.
   <br> marclaporte:
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   fabricius: ah
   <br> on jmpress with wikiforyou
   <br> http://jmpress.wikiforyou.eu
   <br> I think, that this is a pretty cool thing!
   <br> and easy to understand, once you know a tiny bit of html
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   <br> hi there. first - thank a lot for this great free CMS
   <br> got 2 problems: 1st - how to disable the auto logout feature? i want to start tikiwiki when arriving at work and close it when leaving.
   <br> <u>2nd</u>: in case of auto logout while s/o is typing content into forum, wiki page or something else, a backup of this is made which the user can re-use after logging back into the system. unfortunately "spaces" and (german) special character. are transformed to %20 and so on... how to avoid this?
   <br> hope you can help me
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   CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r40045 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_trackers.tpl: [FIX] trackers: Add load function for tracker create dialog to initialise the category tree (thanks Geoff)
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   RobertPlummer: polom all
   Jyhem_laptop: Polom RobertPlummer
   RobertPlummer: <u>Jyhem_laptop</u>: What are you up to?
   Jyhem_laptop: Fighting for memory on my computer :-( Actually, I want to set-up a huge tracker database, but the data is in excel files which tak hours to open and 1 GB in RAM :-(
   <br> You ?
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   <br> polom
   Jyhem_laptop: polom jonnyb
   jonnyb: hi Jyhem_laptop
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   Jyhem_laptop: Hmm, in trunk, I just created a tracker with an auto-increment field. It always takes 0 as a value :-(
   jonnyb: ew - was working a while back
   Jyhem_laptop: let me try in demo.tiki.org
   <br> Definitely 0 :-(   → http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=11
   <br> I need to get a demo rolling. I can't hunt that down (and I don't need the auto-inc for the demo). :-(
   jonnyb: sorry - also busy, maybe later
   Jyhem_laptop: I don't think I misconfigured something (very little configuration, actually)
   <br> FOUND something !
   jonnyb: hmm?
   Jyhem_laptop: I just figured it out
   <br> When the "Start" parameter is 0, the field does not auto-increment
   jonnyb: nice
   <br> 0's not a very kind number for an id
   Jyhem_laptop: So we have 2 issues: 1/ This is not documented in the field creation text; 2/ the default value is 0 instead of 1
   jonnyb: good catch, will try and fix later
   Jyhem_laptop: Well, maybe someone felt we would want to have the opportunity of non-incrementing incremental fields, but it should not be the default :-)
   -: Jyhem_laptop wonders what happens with negative "start" field
   Jyhem_laptop: Doesn't work. or I should have done it first.
   <br> now it just auto-increments
   <br> Do we have an import possibility for a bunch of tracker entries ?
   jonnyb: yes, there's import tracker items
   Jyhem_laptop: Ahh, found it
   <br> It's these icons in the list view of trackers
   <br> And it worked flawlessly at the first attempt, too. :-)
   jonnyb: yay! (have done quite a bit of work in there recently - my 12,000 item tracker gets totally re-imported from time to time from a custom shell script)
   <br> nice to hear it works for others! :)
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   Jyhem_laptop: Good work, my 63 items are in. And I just tried the easiest way first: just the relevant fields. All the rest magically set itself in place :-)
   <br> OK, I see it also imported the empty line on the bottom. That was unnecessary :)
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   <br> Good evening
   <br> i am looking for some advice in regards to some sort of " to do " lists
   <br> so i found this Task function which is  a bit ... unhandy
   <br> so i might just miss somehting
   <br> but there is a " module " called " user_taks" which basicly allowes me to create some tasks, howerver i need to create them in this module and later on, modify them again
   <br> to make them ... for example visible for the group and stuff
   <br> is there any way to have this a bit more smooth implemented ?
   <br> i also looked into this " tracker " funktion .. but it seems way too heavy for the thing what i wanted to do
   <br> just simply have a list, to theck what needs to be done and what has been done
   NachoMahma: Will any of the calendar functions do what you want?
   jonnyb: hi anotherguy - i'd use a tracker if i was you - tasks are very old and somewhat unsupported these days
   anotherguy: ugh okay
   <br> thanks
   <br> will look into that
   jonnyb: use the bug tracker profile to get you started http://profiles.tiki.org/Bug_Tracker
   <br> here's how to: http://profiles.tiki.org/How+to+use+profiles
   Jyhem_laptop: Hmmm, I want to copy a tracker from one server to another. I exported the tracker "structure" succesfully, but it does not contain the list of fields. The items export also does not seem to contain any information about the field types. I wonder how it could recreate the correct field types
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   jonnyb: <u>Jyhem_laptop</u>: you can export the tracker definition and all the fields from tracker admin - you have to copy and paste them in but it does work (eventually)
   Jyhem_laptop: <u>jonnyb</u>: Thanks, I looked again and now I found this third export place → select fields and drop-down "export fields"
   jonnyb: that's the one
   Jyhem_laptop: Very confusing but it works perfectly :-)
   jonnyb: seems fairly logical to me - would be nice to have a sort of "export encapsulated tracker" function to do it all in one...
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   Jyhem_laptop: Well, there is this tracker export pop-up which lets you export the structure and the items. The fields somewhat fit logically in between, but they are to be found somewhere else
   jonnyb: true - but they're found near the fields so it's sort of makes sense ;)
   Jyhem_laptop: But the fact that one can select the fields to export is also very handy
   jonnyb: hi ricks99
   ricks99: polom y'all
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   fabricius: polom
   JoernOtt: ola
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   JoernOtt: I just came from a customer running tiki i
   <br> they use IIS as server (causing file uploads to become application/octet-stream which is kinda stupid for images
   <br> and they also use the wysiwy(n)g editor which has big problems with the maketoc plugin.
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   JoernOtt: For the fiist problem, there is a short fix, the second might be a bit more complex (tampering with parserlib to remove some additional blanks before maketoc). Where should I commit the fixes? in 8.x or rather in trunk and backport them after 8.4 release?
   Jyhem_laptop: Hi JoernOtt: I would say trunk then backport
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   JoernOtt: 'kay
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   fabricius: Errrrr Joern, {maketoc} literally does not work at all with WYSIWYG, because of the HTML headlines ... would be nice, if you would bring that into Tiki
   <br> anyway ... would not say "is having big problems" &lt;-&gt; it is just not a feature
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   JoernOtt: Torsten, As far as I have seen, there is some conversion being done when switching editors and there is some "handling" code where comments indicate that it is for headlines with maketoc and wysiwyg
   <br> I slowly manage to convince people to use the tiki editor, but that will take some time...
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   fabricius: <u>JoernOtt</u>: still there?
   <br> sorry have been afk
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