[0:1] Robert__ Nacho take care...haven't had much luck here in this group
[0:1] NachoMahma Sorry
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[0:9] luciash polom
[0:10] luciash fabricius: how do you mean that Q ?
[0:11] fabricius hi
[0:12] fabricius what luciash ?  ... was afIRC concentrating on prezitation tools and frameworks
[0:15] fabricius what you are referring onto luciash ?
[0:15] fabricius misstyped Jquery? jquery? JQuery?
[0:35] luciash fabricius: i was referring to 20:39
[0:35] luciash Q as in Question
[0:35] * fabricius is checking
[0:35] fabricius ah
[0:36] fabricius I did not mean SVN <- misstyped, I did mean -> SVG
[0:36] fabricius I am working on prezitations
[0:36] fabricius researching and testing
[0:38] luciash ah SVG, well, i have some knowledge but depends ...
[0:38] fabricius JessyInk and Sozi for Inkscape, dizzy.js, impress.js, jmpress.js, zoomooz - maybe I need some advice or discussion with a coder who has some experience
[0:41] fabricius ideas are related with including s.th. to slideshows or connect with draw or whatsoever route to implement prezi like behaviour/features/design/effects in Tiki
[0:42] fabricius offline / online editing - I am collecting information, have a close look at apps and frameworks, but i am not a coder
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[1:21] luciash fabricius: neither am i :)
[1:21] fabricius but you did not need 40 minutes to think about if you were?
[1:21] fabricius *kidding*
[1:22] fabricius hey marclaporte : impress.js and jmpress.js may be interesting, whilst impress seems to use tooo modern functions of CSS 3 and HTML5
[1:24] fabricius thhttp://www.ohloh.net/p/dizzyjs SVG approach seems to be not so suitable (still testing) and dizzy.js is not developed since a year and very basic in functionality
[1:24] fabricius oops my f*** keyboard - or I have too fat fingers
[1:25] fabricius I meant the SVG approach (JessyInk and Sozi and partwise dizzy.js)
[1:26] fabricius e-mail to the list will follow pretty soon, not yet tested everything
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[1:43] marclaporte fabricius:  put all those links on a wiki page!
[1:43] marclaporte http://shama.github.com/jmpress.js/#/home looks awesome!
[1:43] fabricius I will do so ... all day researching and testing since saturday
[1:43] marclaporte +1 to use modern browser features, as it rewards the good browsers and puts pressure on the others
[1:44] marclaporte yay!
[1:44] fabricius -1 to make a website that locks out more than 50% of potential visitors
[1:44] marclaporte I see this as an extension to S5 Slideshow
[1:45] marclaporte For old browsers, we just fall back to S5
[1:45] fabricius but anyway, I want to try the startpage(s) for wikiforyou with jmpress
[1:45] fabricius an integration of jmpress into tiki might be an idea, what do you think?
[1:46] fabricius we need to check with a few coders, if it would be possible to make kind of a GUI with Tiki
[1:46] fabricius spontaneus idea: making the views with wikipages
[1:47] fabricius similar than a menupage module
[1:47] marclaporte browser support as reported is pretty good: https://github.com/shama/jmpress.js
[1:48] fabricius yes, much better than impress - as BartoSzopka is especially focussed on the new features of css3 and html5 and does not want to use jquery for impress
[1:49] fabricius that's why they forked jmpress
[1:50] marclaporte impressive!   http://manuelt.com/#/bored
[1:51] fabricius marclaporte: referring to the branching discussion: I would say, that some stuff I leave with 9, but s.th. I should move further to pre-10, what you think?
[1:52] marclaporte At this point, we are not supposed to add new features!
[1:53] fabricius yes! ... just meaning, that the sites where I am supporting people, I will keep in 9 and some of my own stuff aswell, but maybe I should have a look, where I could move a site to pre-10
[1:54] fabricius not new features
[1:54] fabricius btw: http://manuelt.com/#/bored is made with impress - it seems to be a copy of BartoSzopka's demo
[1:54] fabricius not working in FF8
[1:56] fabricius but a website = prezitation ... if that was with less coding, like integrated in the cms
[1:56] fabricius that would be cool
[1:56] fabricius maybe for 10
[1:56] fabricius what do you think?
[2:2] fabricius Ok, downloaded jmpress.js and have the slides-website offline now ... trying to customise the content now
[2:5] fabricius look here: http://janne.aukia.com/zoomooz/examples/isometric/index.html
[2:5] fabricius zoomooz.js seems to be interesting aswell
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[3:13] fabricius marclaporte: are you still there? I want to show you s.th.
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[3:58] fabricius Marc - there? Wana show you s.th.
[3:58] fabricius marclaporte:
[4:9] marclaporte On phone with Trebly
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[4:25] fabricius ah
[4:26] fabricius on jmpress with wikiforyou
[4:26] fabricius http://jmpress.wikiforyou.eu
[4:27] fabricius I think, that this is a pretty cool thing!
[4:27] fabricius and easy to understand, once you know a tiny bit of html
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[14:16] Jenser hi there. first - thank a lot for this great free CMS
[14:17] Jenser got 2 problems: 1st - how to disable the auto logout feature? i want to start tikiwiki when arriving at work and close it when leaving.
[14:19] Jenser 2nd: in case of auto logout while s/o is typing content into forum, wiki page or something else, a backup of this is made which the user can re-use after logging back into the system. unfortunately "spaces" and (german) special character. are transformed to %20 and so on... how to avoid this?
[14:19] Jenser hope you can help me
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[16:42] RobertPlummer polom all
[16:44] Jyhem_laptop Polom RobertPlummer
[16:44] RobertPlummer Jyhem_laptop: What are you up to?
[16:48] Jyhem_laptop Fighting for memory on my computer :-( Actually, I want to set-up a huge tracker database, but the data is in excel files which tak hours to open and 1 GB in RAM :-(
[16:48] Jyhem_laptop You ?
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[16:53] jonnyb polom
[16:54] Jyhem_laptop polom jonnyb
[16:54] jonnyb hi Jyhem_laptop
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[17:22] Jyhem_laptop Hmm, in trunk, I just created a tracker with an auto-increment field. It always takes 0 as a value :-(
[17:23] jonnyb ew - was working a while back
[17:25] Jyhem_laptop let me try in demo.tiki.org
[17:31] Jyhem_laptop Definitely 0 :-(   → http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=11
[17:33] Jyhem_laptop I need to get a demo rolling. I can't hunt that down (and I don't need the auto-inc for the demo). :-(
[17:34] jonnyb sorry - also busy, maybe later
[17:34] Jyhem_laptop I don't think I misconfigured something (very little configuration, actually)
[17:38] Jyhem_laptop FOUND something !
[17:40] jonnyb hmm?
[17:41] Jyhem_laptop I just figured it out
[17:42] Jyhem_laptop When the "Start" parameter is 0, the field does not auto-increment
[17:42] jonnyb nice
[17:43] jonnyb 0's not a very kind number for an id
[17:43] Jyhem_laptop So we have 2 issues: 1/ This is not documented in the field creation text; 2/ the default value is 0 instead of 1
[17:44] jonnyb good catch, will try and fix later
[17:44] Jyhem_laptop Well, maybe someone felt we would want to have the opportunity of non-incrementing incremental fields, but it should not be the default :-)
[17:45] * Jyhem_laptop wonders what happens with negative "start" field
[17:47] Jyhem_laptop Doesn't work. or I should have done it first.
[17:47] Jyhem_laptop now it just auto-increments
[17:50] Jyhem_laptop Do we have an import possibility for a bunch of tracker entries ?
[17:54] jonnyb yes, there's import tracker items
[17:54] Jyhem_laptop Ahh, found it
[17:54] Jyhem_laptop It's these icons in the list view of trackers
[18:7] Jyhem_laptop And it worked flawlessly at the first attempt, too. :-)
[18:9] jonnyb yay! (have done quite a bit of work in there recently - my 12,000 item tracker gets totally re-imported from time to time from a custom shell script)
[18:9] jonnyb nice to hear it works for others! :)
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[18:23] Jyhem_laptop Good work, my 63 items are in. And I just tried the easiest way first: just the relevant fields. All the rest magically set itself in place :-)
[18:25] Jyhem_laptop OK, I see it also imported the empty line on the bottom. That was unnecessary :)
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[19:40] anotherguy Good evening
[19:41] anotherguy i am looking for some advice in regards to some sort of " to do " lists
[19:41] anotherguy so i found this Task function which is  a bit ... unhandy
[19:41] anotherguy so i might just miss somehting
[19:42] anotherguy but there is a " module " called " user_taks" which basicly allowes me to create some tasks, howerver i need to create them in this module and later on, modify them again
[19:42] anotherguy to make them ... for example visible for the group and stuff
[19:42] anotherguy is there any way to have this a bit more smooth implemented ?
[19:43] anotherguy i also looked into this " tracker " funktion .. but it seems way too heavy for the thing what i wanted to do
[19:43] anotherguy just simply have a list, to theck what needs to be done and what has been done
[19:44] NachoMahma Will any of the calendar functions do what you want?
[19:45] jonnyb hi anotherguy - i'd use a tracker if i was you - tasks are very old and somewhat unsupported these days
[19:45] anotherguy ugh okay
[19:45] anotherguy thanks
[19:45] anotherguy will look into that
[19:46] jonnyb use the bug tracker profile to get you started http://profiles.tiki.org/Bug_Tracker
[19:47] jonnyb here's how to: http://profiles.tiki.org/How+to+use+profiles
[20:14] Jyhem_laptop Hmmm, I want to copy a tracker from one server to another. I exported the tracker "structure" succesfully, but it does not contain the list of fields. The items export also does not seem to contain any information about the field types. I wonder how it could recreate the correct field types
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[20:28] jonnyb Jyhem_laptop: you can export the tracker definition and all the fields from tracker admin - you have to copy and paste them in but it does work (eventually)
[20:32] Jyhem_laptop jonnyb: Thanks, I looked again and now I found this third export place → select fields and drop-down "export fields"
[20:33] jonnyb that's the one
[20:34] Jyhem_laptop Very confusing but it works perfectly :-)
[20:35] jonnyb seems fairly logical to me - would be nice to have a sort of "export encapsulated tracker" function to do it all in one...
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[20:37] Jyhem_laptop Well, there is this tracker export pop-up which lets you export the structure and the items. The fields somewhat fit logically in between, but they are to be found somewhere else
[20:38] jonnyb true - but they're found near the fields so it's sort of makes sense ;)
[20:38] Jyhem_laptop But the fact that one can select the fields to export is also very handy
[20:38] jonnyb hi ricks99
[20:39] ricks99 polom y'all
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[21:26] fabricius polom
[21:26] JoernOtt ola
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[21:28] JoernOtt I just came from a customer running tiki i
[21:29] JoernOtt they use IIS as server (causing file uploads to become application/octet-stream which is kinda stupid for images
[21:29] JoernOtt and they also use the wysiwy(n)g editor which has big problems with the maketoc plugin.
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[21:31] JoernOtt For the fiist problem, there is a short fix, the second might be a bit more complex (tampering with parserlib to remove some additional blanks before maketoc). Where should I commit the fixes? in 8.x or rather in trunk and backport them after 8.4 release?
[21:32] Jyhem_laptop Hi JoernOtt: I would say trunk then backport
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[21:39] JoernOtt 'kay
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[21:52] fabricius Errrrr Joern, {maketoc} literally does not work at all with WYSIWYG, because of the HTML headlines ... would be nice, if you would bring that into Tiki
[21:53] fabricius anyway ... would not say "is having big problems" <-> it is just not a feature
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[22:10] JoernOtt Torsten, As far as I have seen, there is some conversion being done when switching editors and there is some "handling" code where comments indicate that it is for headlines with maketoc and wysiwyg
[22:11] JoernOtt I slowly manage to convince people to use the tiki editor, but that will take some time...
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[23:7] fabricius JoernOtt: still there?
[23:8] fabricius sorry have been afk
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