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   fabricius: rehi Loll78
   <br> <u>Loll78</u>: sorry, before my pc went down
   Loll78: np. mine has switched in standby
   fabricius: hehe
   <br> what was your problem?
   Loll78: for the standby turning or the spreadsheets?
   fabricius: spreadsheets
   <br> ah that was it+
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   <br> Polom,
   <br> Do somebody have done something (or know if somebody have done or looked to) the support of Tiki wiki Marked Up Language to use with Mylyn WikiText. This probably by the use of the feature Markup Languages extension of WikiText ? Or something else (there others ways)?
   fabricius: I do not know
   Jyhem: <u>fabricius</u>: he wasn't here in july
   fabricius: yes I know
   <br> but he is there now
   <br> it was just a joke
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   Trebly: &lt;fabricius&gt;Hi, thanks. The way has two objects :
   <br> 1- to be able to bring to tikiwiki docs made in ECLIPSE context Mylyn Wikitext the integrated solution
   <br> 2- future enhancements of Tiki in project Management, here software management
   <br> I program to be in Strasbourg (I was in London and failed in Paris organization) but I could not go
   fabricius: hmmm
   Trebly: &lt;fabricius&gt; Is it somewhere a document ?
   fabricius: <u>Trebly</u>:  -&gt; query
   <br> Jyhem are you still there?
   <br> Jyhem I have a problem with pre-9 trunk SVN
   <br> cannot install neither upgrade the database anymore  - installer seems broken
   <br> I am wondering, if that is an issue, or just a local insident
   <br> i tried a few times on my server with existing and new database
   <br> SVN was working until before yesterday
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   <br> polom
   Loll78: Hi.
   <br> I think I have found the problem why I was not able to edit my spreadsheets.
   <br> In Look &amp; Feel -&gt; Customization -&gt; Custom HTML &lt;head&gt;  Content : I had entered the code "&lt;script type="text/javascript"  src="lib/ASCIIMathML.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;" in order to get working the displaying for mathematical formula"
   <br> "http://doc.tiki.org/" doesn't work -&gt;Error message  "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/local/doc.tiki.org/www/lang/en/language.php on line 6346"
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   <br> hi all
   <br> some probs with doc.tiki.org?
   <br> ( ! ) Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/local/doc.tiki.org/www/lang/en/language.php on line 6346
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   <br> polom
   sylvieg: dev.tiki.org is white page for me
   fabricius: checking
   <br> for me aswell
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   fabricius: <u>sylvieg</u>: the Tikisites are all running on SVN, right?
   sylvieg: I do not know -
   <br> my trunk is broken too
   fabricius: SVN?
   <br> I mentioned a problem with the installer yesterday
   <br> trying again this morning and have a mail to the devlist prepared
   <br> just wanted to check a 8.x branch - installer before
   <br> since yesterday, in the moment I SVN up to the newest trunk I have no access to an existing or new site anymore
   <br> maybe it is the same fault? what do you think?
   sylvieg: smarty wants to write to / instead of ..
   Loll78: <u>fabricius</u>: I found the error of my spreadsheets-problem.
   fabricius: ah ok - tell me pls
   <br> <u>sylviegu</u>: what do you suggest that we do now? are you trying to find out? a mail to the infrastructure team - what I think we do anyway
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: "are you trying to find out?" -&gt; meaning, do you think you can fix it?
   sylvieg: I do not have time yet
   <br> sorry
   <br> breakfast
   fabricius: hehe
   Loll78: <u>fabricius</u>: In Look &amp; Feel -&gt; Customization -&gt; Custom HTML &lt;head&gt;  Content : I had entered the code "&lt;script type="text/javascript"  src="lib/ASCIIMathML.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;" in order to get working the displaying for mathematical formula"
   fabricius: I'll try to inform the infrastructure team first thing then
   <br> <u>Loll78</u>: ah and this custom code broke ist?
   Loll78: I do not think that the custom code is broken.
   <br> is's perhaps not the right way how to include correct displaying of mathematical formula
   fabricius: <u>Loll78</u>: no, I dod not mean that -&gt; it just does not comply in some way with the Tiki or with the Tiki spreadsheet
   <br> yes, thte I meant
   <br> mv thte the
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   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: dev/doc are not down,
   <br> it's the last commit in language that break everything
   fabricius: Ok, what is the problem with dev
   <br> ah
   changi_away: i'm currently revert commit locally
   fabricius: ok
   <br> cool
   changi_away: but we need to revert that one
   <br> and i think it's the same in trunk
   fabricius: did anybody else realis an issue with the installer, like I did?
   changi_away: don't know
   fabricius: mv realis realise
   <br> I can only check on my server
   <br> I am trying again right nor and same time with other versions
   <br> mv nor now
   <br> sorry for miss spelling
   changi_away: no problem
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   changi_away: <u>JoernOtt</u>: i think you are cdrwhite on sf.net no ?
   <br> <u>JoernOtt</u>: if so, maybe your last commit broke a lot of things
   <br> <u>JoernOtt</u>: i'm currently revert it on 8.x
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   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: I do not know, how busy you are, but could you have a quick look, if the commit you are reverting in Branches is in Trunk aswell?
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: or show me, how I find out myself - what I would have to look for?
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   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: it is in trunk but it's working
   fabricius: ok
   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: you're problem is in installer ?
   fabricius: I am this moment trying to find out how to checkout a certain verion
   <br> yes installer
   <br> I think this problem - if I am right - is not only my problem
   changi_away: where in installer ?
   fabricius: at the point, where you either upgrade or install the database
   <br> should be point 5 or so
   <br> what happens is, that you ar kind of "thrown" out of the installer
   <br> you can reenter by typing in the browsers adressfield and finish installation by bypassing this point
   <br> the db IS populated
   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: yes have the same issue
   fabricius: but when you try to access the website you get a redirect error
   <br> ok
   <br> then at least it is not a weird missconfiguration
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   fabricius: I feared I would be crazy
   <br> thx for confirming
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: can I help in any kind?
   <br> testing s.th. specific or so, for ex.
   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: for now i'm playing with die
   fabricius: what is die?
   changi_away: echo "toto"; die;
   <br> php stopped at the line :)
   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: ah ... ;-)
   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: could you try remove lib/core/Tracker/Field/index.php
   fabricius: you mean in my installation on my server?
   <br> changi_away:
   changi_away: yes
   <br> fabricius:
   <br> :)
   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: I have this moment an 8 branches checkout running - give me just a few minutes. As soon as it is finished, I do another pre-9 trunk checkout and do what you asked for
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: do you know, if I can do two checkouts from the same computer (opening a second terminal) in the same server account (in another folder) -&gt; local ubuntu and ubuntu webserver
   <br> then I would start it right now
   <br> running checkout now changi_away -&gt; will report straight away (sorry that I had deleted the directory before)
   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: yes you can do 2 checkout
   <br> in //
   fabricius: thx - nearly finished now
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: installer running now
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: http://test.mydomain.de/index.php
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: removing lib/core/Tracker/Field/index.php did not help
   changi_away: lib/shipping/custom/index.php and lib/prefs/index.php
   <br> should work
   -: fabricius should remove them?
   changi_away: no i'm currently making a fix
   fabricius: ah
   <br> I svn up asytm (as sonn as you tell me)
   <br> mv sonn soon
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   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: svn up
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   fabricius: ok
   <br> running
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: btw - what's with lib/core/tracker/field/index.php -&gt; it's deleted; will svn make a new version or will I have to put it back manually?
   <br> or leave it out
   NachoMahma: Do I need to include a "Needs Review" tag if I only correct a link on a Doc page?
   <br> External link that changed
   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: now after installing the database I am Thrown out of the installer and sent to mydomain.de/tiki-index.php, where I directly can login as admin/admin
   changi_away: so it's working :
   <br> :)
   NachoMahma: http://tiki.org/Participate "How to Contribute to Open Source Without Coding" link changed
   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: so it to be working generally, but a few steps are left out
   <br> mv "it to be working" "it seems to be working"
   <br> Hi NachoMahma - what do you mean with "Needs Review" -&gt; category or so? If you fixed it and it is working now instead of before, than you  already reviewed it
   <br> So you can tag it before you start and untag it after finishing, what is literally just a mental 1 second virtual moment
   NachoMahma: OK. I thouhgt maybe someone else would need to review. If I have already reviewed, then I won't mark
   fabricius: are you sure, that what you did is alright?
   <br> and do you think everybody would be happy with what you did?
   NachoMahma: The link works now if that is what you mean by "did is alright"
   fabricius: if  it did not work before, than you fixed a broken link - thanks for reviewing ;-)
   NachoMahma: I'm new and just need a little feedback
   fabricius: sure - thatś why I answer this way
   <br> there are still parts, where I myself need feedback - we are a huge community and the youngers do not want to damage the work of the olders, even the youngers might bring in new ideas or figure out unseen issues
   NachoMahma: I'm not used to being able to make changes to a major database without someone else OKing it. :)
   fabricius: we have to care for each other and we do so
   <br> di you see the video of the TikiFest Barcelona 2010?
   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: another try
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   NachoMahma: No. The only vids I have seen (so far) are a few involved with installation
   fabricius: Jonny is been asked there what he enjoyed in the community
   <br> and Marc in an interviuew recently pointed out our doocracy
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: ok
   changi_away: <u>NachoMahma</u>: what do you want to modify on database ?
   fabricius: hehe
   <br> information system
   <br> huge workspace
   <br> big real project
   <br> not mysql database ;-)
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: I have to leave for a few minutes ... let's say in about 5 min ... and need about 20 minutes/ half an hour &lt;= do you have s.th. for me to do before I leave?
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: I can go now aswell and come back earlier
   changi_away: <u>fabricius</u>: you can try the installer
   <br> it's fixed for me
   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: OK I do now
   NachoMahma: Not modifying _a_ database, just a collection of data in general
   <br> "Modifying the content" would have been more precise
   <br> I'm surprised that I can change just about anything without being vetted or queued for approval
   <br> I have marked a couple of changes as needing review, but those were changes to content (eg, adding a definition to an existing paragraph)
   fabricius: that is the 'Tiki Way' - we respect the environment including the people aka each other, thus we need far less hierarchy, which literally is just as much setup as absolutely necessary for the project and still open for everybody who continuously contributes
   <br> <u>NachoMahma</u>: as long, as you know what you do, just do - if you have any doubt and need feedback if your changes will work or brake s.th., then ask
   NachoMahma: So far all I've done is make a few tweaks. Nothing major.
   fabricius: each of us is grown up and as we all have so different background and personal history - who is best? we all are best - together
   NachoMahma: Sounds like a bunch of hippie talk from the 1960s-70s heehee
   <br> I am surprised that SPAMmers and hackers are not a biggr problem
   <br> But it difficult to argue with success. :)
   <br> it is
   <br> I'll quit bugging y'all for a while and quitely go about tweaking the docs where I can. Later
   fabricius: cool - we always need plenty of help in the docs
   <br> docs and translation
   NachoMahma: Any suggestions on where to concentrate my efforts?
   fabricius: hehe
   <br> where you concentrate your efforts anyway?
   <br> I  (personally) think, that you are best in what you like best (if there would be not a massive lack in talent, like me in singing)
   NachoMahma: I started at http://tiki.org/doctwo+Revamp
   fabricius: earlier or later there will tasks come over you anyway
   <br> that is perfect
   NachoMahma: I'd like to apply my efforts where they will do the most good. I am too new to TW to have any idea where my efforts would do the most good
   fabricius: I should work there aswell - did some translation and details  - but more focussing on different stuff
   <br> but I always come back to the doc revamp - very good idea, if you focus there
   NachoMahma: ok
   fabricius: Rick Sapir (ricks99) is the man and you might talk with Gregor Adamczyck (gta64) aswell and with me if you want
   <br> Rick is american and Gregor and me are German - makin the german language user group
   <br> but I should not mention names, because there are so many people
   NachoMahma: I have one suggestion that I am not sure where to post: Indicate which version an object became available, when a major change was made (ie, added param), when removed.
   fabricius: but Ricks started the doc revamp and we started the german translation, so we would help you to get started if you have a question
   <br> ah understand the question
   NachoMahma: I will keep those names in mind when I have a question. Thanks
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   fabricius: like Function XYZ since Tiki 4.1
   NachoMahma: Yes
   fabricius: hmmm must think about that
   <br> maybe in the mailing list -&gt; the logs
   <br> hmmm
   <br> maybe with the revision numbers?
   <br> hmmm
   <br> I do not know, if that is so much imortant and I do not really know where to find out if it was forgotten in the docs
   <br> ah one idea:
   NachoMahma: A few of the pages have tabs with version-specific info, but I have seen no systematic indication of version availability
   fabricius: when you have a look in the history of the features wikipage
   NachoMahma: Maybe I'm the only one that thinks it's important :)
   fabricius: then you for ex can figure out the date when the doc to it was started
   <br> that gives an important hint to find out more info about the features history
   NachoMahma: I started going thruough that change docs looking for that info, but it is an arduous task
   fabricius: maybe (not the next few days) we could work on some of this together and maybe we find a good workflow for that
   NachoMahma: If I am the only one that thinks it would be important for organizing the docs, then not much reason to do it
   fabricius: there are pages just for the feature - there the first version
   <br> I do not say, that it is not important - maybe the info could be useful ... we should look into that, but I have no time until end of next week
   NachoMahma: ah
   fabricius: you can write me an email, if you wanna do some collaborative session on the docs - torsten@tiki.org
   NachoMahma: ok. You can contact me at tiki_torsten@bollen.us
   <br> I check that mail server every 2-4 days
   fabricius: cool
   NachoMahma: I hang out on several Freenode channels, including this one, so IRC is probably the fastest way to reach me.
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   NachoMahma: Oh! Is there a forum that would be appropriate for internal documentation? The Documentation forums I see appears to be for users who are creating doc wikis
   fabricius: mom, on the phone
   NachoMahma: *appropriate for questions/comments about internal
   fabricius: ah done
   <br> what you mean in specific?
   <br> there are a few teams
   NachoMahma: Is there a forum those the ppl who are working on documenting TW?
   fabricius: you can join the teams - I think the team related communication is not so much in forums
   NachoMahma: I haven't made it to the team/group pages yet.
   fabricius: hehe
   <br> mom
   <br> http://tiki.org/Teams
   NachoMahma: "A way to deal with information overload. " That's for me! :)
   fabricius: http://tiki.org/Who+What
   <br> I started an initiative on redesigning the community websites a little bit
   <br> making it  a bit easier to find things for newcomers
   <br> would be helpful to chat with you on your experiences
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   NachoMahma: A lot of info could be archived "for posterity" and taken out of the pages that users normally see
   <br> Yes. I can see that there is a lot to be done to make it easier for users to find info.
   <br> Just let me know when you have time to chat and we can exchange some ideas
   fabricius: cool
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   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: still the same - rest of the installer is bypassed
   changi_away: did you rm temp/cache/ content ?
   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: I made a fresh database
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: I have to go now and lateron a friend will pick me up
   <br> <u>changi_away</u>: I will do a complete babyface new checkout late tonight, when I come back home and report tomorrow morning, ok?
   changi_away: ok
   <br> see ya
   fabricius: new database, new directory - will dlete everything befoire
   <br> see ya
   <br> thx for time - anyway the worse problem is solved - probably working like it should
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   fabricius: <u>changi_away</u>: PS yes, I rm temp/cache/ content -&gt; still bypassing - I check a new on later this night. cheers
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   sylvieg: back - thx for the one who fixed blank page - bu t I have still a pb with smarty I did not have 2 days agao
   <br> in trunk
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   xavi: sylvie, a question for you regarding sorting in tracker field itemlink
   <br> the content of the dropdown produced from an itemlink type of field in trackers is not sorted properly
   <br> if you have 10 items, starting from 1 to 10, you get them sorted as text: 1 10 2 3 ... 9
   <br> instead of 1 2 3 ... 10
   <br> I remember the same issue in PluginSort months ago, and I was able to fix it by replacing the appropriate function in that plugin from sort() into natcasesort()