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   <br> Anyone have any experience with the structures TOC plugin?
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   JoernOtt: <u>DarkSlider</u>: yes
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   Jenser: good morning
   <br> found a bug in creating a new wiki page
   <br> -&gt; creating a new page
   <br> -&gt; typing name
   <br> if you type there a forbidden character (such as &amp;) and continue, you will be forwarded to the "page editing" window
   <br> on top of this is the "rename" window for the wiki page (same as standalone "rename" window")
   <br> unfortunately there's no "apply change" AND there's no "save" button for the editor part of this page
   <br> http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8942/tikiwikinameaendern.jpg
   JoernOtt: What happens, if you change the name and click preview?
   Jenser: i get the preview
   <br> still with the wrong name
   <br> and yet no "save" button or something helpful
   <br> "discard changes" leads to "site not known" (tiki is trying to open the "renamed" site
   JoernOtt: I just tested it in a trunk installation and can confirm the missing button
   <br> However, I fixed the name (removed the &amp;) and pressed return afterwards and that returned to the "normal" page
   <br> This behaviour is not intuitive, so you should file a bug and request a "change" button next to the rename box
   Jenser: gonna search for the "bug corner" :D
   <br> grml
   <br> login @ dev.tiki.org drops error
   <br> (done - my fault)
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   Jenser: when searching - is it possible to keep "highlighting" toggled on when clicking on a page found by the search engine?
   <br> -&gt; when searching for "paul" and finding a page containing it - i'd like to have highlighted "paul" not only in the site-preview but also in this page...
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   Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4180 - - "Change" and "Save" buttons are missing when typing a "new wiki page" name with forbidden chars (such as &amp;) and proceeding to the editor-page for this site.  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=4180
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   JoernOtt: Jenser, afaik this is already happening. A customer of mine complains about that. He has the "Highlight results snippets" button deactivated on the Search page and the text in the pages is highlighted nonetheless
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   Jenser: "this is happening" means it's gonna be in the next release?
   ricks99: <u>Jenser</u>: should be available already in 8.x and 6LTS
   DarkSlider: Found a bug in Structures TOC plugin, not sure if its isolated with me or widespread.  When the option "shownum" is off, bullets are not being displayed, the TOC is just being listed as an unformatted list of links
   ricks99: i haven't seen that. i nevery use numbers, and my {toc} plugin seems fine. maybe you're using a customized sytle?
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   DarkSlider: no custom style, just a profile from tiki, and the darkroom theme
   <br> you can see it here www.dtsleech.com/wiki
   <br> I will take off the numbers
   <br> numbers are off
   ricks99: in the darkroom theme, it appears that there are no bullets for non-numbered lists. see line 1370 of darkroom.css
   <br> list-style-type=none;
   <br> you could modify css as needed. probably want to maintin the margin-left, too
   -: ricks99 not too familiar with the darkroom theme
   <br> Jyhem thinks sylvieg uses darkroom
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   Jenser: ricks99 how to i get the search working as i want it? i am running 8.3 and "highighting" is not "forwarded"
   ricks99: Nothing extra to do... beleive that is the way it is "supposed" to work
   <br> you have the option enabled, right?
   Jenser: highlighting does work
   <br> typing my search term to the search box and hitting enter leads me to the "found documents"
   <br> there the search terms are highlighted as i want it
   <br> but
   <br> now clicking one of these documents opens them - but without highlighting the search term anymore
   ricks99: works on tiki.org/home site, nothing additional to configure. two things to check:
   <br> 1. when you click the document (from the search results), is there a ....&amp;highlight=foo in your URL?
   Jenser: nope
   ricks99: 2. Are you using a custom style? do you have the necesary highlight classes?
   Jenser: from start page (https://172.16.20.209/tiki-my_tiki.php)
   <br> i type my search string into search box
   <br> so i get search string in url...
   <br> https://172.16.20.209/tiki-searchindex.php?highlight=test&amp;where=pages&amp;search=Los
   <br> now i have forum posts, wiki pages,...
   <br> highlighted as suggested to
   ricks99: you're using searchindex instead of searchresults.php. are you using tiki search or mysql?
   Jenser: MySQL full text search is off
   <br> incremental hex update is off
   <br> tokenize version numers is off
   <br> unified search engine is lucene (php implementation)
   <br> there's nothing else to choose
   ricks99: ah.. lucene search is still under development... not sure if highlighting is fully supported.
   <br> you can turn on the mysql full-text search
   <br> iirc, you can run both, together, without any issues
   Jenser: perfect
   <br> thanks a lot
   ricks99: you're welcome
   Jenser: anyway
   <br> one more question to the search theme
   <br> how to include trackers...?
   ricks99: 1. confirm that user has perm to access tracker
   Jenser: i am searching as admin right now
   ricks99: 2. confirm that the fields of the tracker have the SEARCH option enabled
   Jenser: how to enable/disable this?
   ricks99: #2? edit the tracker fields
   Jenser: search doesn't even find the tracker's name
   ricks99: must have at least 1 field in the tracker that is searchable
   <br> and search results are for tracker items -- not actual tracker (iirc)
   Jenser: perfect
   <br> works fine
   ricks99: :)
   Jenser: next problem
   <br> ...
   <br> :)
   <br> searching for something via search box
   -: ricks99 runs to get another cup of coffee first... :)
   Jenser: as a user not allowed to read all content
   <br> searching for search string included in a (for me invisible) post / wiki page
   <br> makes tikiwiki show me a preview of this page
   <br> clicking on this leads to a "not allowed" as intended
   <br> stop stop stop
   <br> could it be that the "mysql search engine" works better in this point?
   <br> seems like everythings fine right now
   ricks99: confirm that you have the "Ignore individual object permissions " option disabled.
   <br> afaik, tiki should *not* show you any search results that you don't have the abilty to access
   Jenser: ignore is off
   ricks99: sounds like a bug then
   Jenser: as mentionned - now it's working fine
   ricks99: check the bug reports, possbily a known issue?
   <br> oh... possibly related to lucene then.
   Jenser: yap
   <br> switched back to lucene
   <br> same behaviour
   <br> reason could be that "ignore individual object permissions" belongs to MySQL Full-Text Search
   ricks99: +1
   Jenser: so toggling this off -&gt; ...
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   Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4181 - - "Ignore individual object permissions" not working for Lucene Engine  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=4181
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   <br> hey ricks99. thanks for the help earlier. wondering if you might help figure out the next mystery on this one lol :P
   <br> changed the padding on it to create the indent, and set line-type-style to square
   <br> yet still no bullets lol
   ricks99: 1 sec and i'll take a look
   DarkSlider: no rush, gonna grab a cig
   ricks99: <u>DarkSlider</u>: try adding this to the look &amp; feel custom css:   .toc * {padding-left:1em;list-style-type: square;}
   DarkSlider: thanks that worked, just have to modify the padding a bit
   ricks99: no problem. if you're new to css, check out the w3c tutorials: http://www.w3schools.com/css/
   DarkSlider: Nah Im good with css, was just trying to edit the actual .css file, and it wasnt taking.  Putting it in the custom css field worked :)  Just new to tiki lol
   ricks99: cool
   <br> note that with the look &amp; feel page, you can modify almost anythihg from within Tiki -- no more FTPing
   DarkSlider: While im in here, any way to use the custom CSS field to mod certain lines of the TOC bullets with images while leaving the others circles.  I know I would do it with the css, but Im not sure how I would tell tiki to look for li class a instead of li
   <br> yeah thats a pretty clever page, I like it
   ricks99: can use the :first-child and :last-child pseudo-elemnts.
   <br> is that what you mean?
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   -: Jyhem_laptop is comparing menustructure and menu
   <br> ricks99 would love it if Jyhem_laptop could make Menu (when using a structure) show the top-most node first (that is, the Structure ID)
   Jyhem_laptop: That's exactly the thing I wondered if I could not find or was not there !
   <br> Amazingly, menustructure also did not have it
   ricks99: there's also a bug ive been trying to figure out... if you put an invalid structure ID, tiki does show the top-most, but for *all* structures
   <br> and sometimes the links don't generate
   <br> very odd
   Jyhem_laptop: I guess the top-most must be some kind of "0" structure. I saw that while putting the structure "name" instead of the structure number
   DarkSlider: sorry was smoking lol.  I am guessing that is what I mean.  Since the list starts with &lt;li&gt; (&lt;ul&gt; being the title of the structure) I want to be able to differentiate between a first paeg &lt;li&gt; and its sub &lt;li&gt; set
   -: ricks99 Happy that Jyhem_laptop is on it. I'm 100% sure it will be fixed :)
   Jyhem_laptop: So far, the only difference I see is, menustructure expects the structure name (otherwise it displays an error), and menu expects the number (otherwise it displays *all* structures)
   <br> Plus, menu has more display control features
   <br> Right now, I'm interested in USING it for my customers site :-)
   ricks99: lol.
   -: ricks99 still keeping his fingers crossed that Jyhem can fix it :)
   ricks99: DarkCalf you can specify the first level as ul.toc li.toclevel {....} and second level as  ul.toc li.toclevel ul.toc li.toclevel {....} etc. this allows you to style each level differenctlt
   Jyhem_laptop: UI-wise, I suppose the sensible thing would be that the top-most node is the default menu title, and the menu title is a link to the top-most node. Does that look intuitive ?
   <br> Adding one more level would be silly, since the top-most node would be alone using the space for the top level
   ricks99: <u>Jyhem_laptop</u>: depends. if you only want to show a single structure, then yes. but i have a use case where I want to show several structures in a single module
   Jyhem_laptop: and in case of suckerfish, you would only see the top-most node
   ricks99: i want to have a different (non-structure) module title, and have each strcture start with its top-most node
   DarkSlider: K thnanks ricks
   Jyhem_laptop: in a single menu module ??? How do you achieve that ?
   ricks99: using multiple MODULE plugins in a custom module
   <br> {module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="1" type="vert"}{module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="2" type="vert"} etc
   Jyhem_laptop: is that inside a page ?
   ricks99: no. in a custom module
   <br> simply requires that "must be wiki parsed" be enabled
   <br> have a use case for a site with multiple structures, but wan'ts a single navigation module to include all four
   <br> ... all four structures
   Jyhem_laptop: so for now you have to do ((top node of struct 1)){module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="1" type="vert"}((top node of struct 2)){module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="2" type="vert"} etc ?
   <br> only it does not show structures as dynamic suckerfish sub-folders, I guess
   ricks99: y, it works fine... but it shows the first level of items for each stucutre. what i want is it to show only the structure *name*
   -: Jyhem_laptop also wants a solution that looks nice for a single structure, which is kind of the majority use
   ricks99: for a single structure, doesn't it work fine? it does for me
   -: Jyhem_laptop feels a bunch of additional options are coming
   Jyhem_laptop: for a single structure, there is no mention or link to the top-most node
   <br> unless I include the top-most node as the first item in the structure from which it is the top-most node
   ricks99: ahh.. yes. i see your issue now. i get around that by using a custom module and manually adding a link to the structure top
   <br> so, my custom module looks like:
   <br> ((link to my top-node)) 02{module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="XXX" type="vert"} 01
   Jyhem_laptop: That's about exactly what I would expect the menu to do by itself. No user is going to figure that out :-(
   -: Jyhem_laptop tries it now
   ricks99: add that to the long list of things that I'd expect tiki to just "do"
   -: Jyhem_laptop realises that custom modules have really made things simpler. Nice
   <br> Jyhem_laptop spent too much time on Tiki 3 and 6 :-(
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   <br> hello guys
   <br> is LDAP possible on wiki ?
   <br> does anyone run it ?
   JoernOtt: hammer, I use openLDAP for user authentication
   <br> and I managed to get user auth running with  Active Directory, but no group sync
   hammer: Perfect
   <br> but how u manage the group permission after ?
   JoernOtt: usually groups are synchronized with LDAP, but I never used it for that
   hammer: is this enough for me as documentation ? is that all what i should do ?
   <br> http://doc.tiki.org/LDAP+authentication
   JoernOtt: yes
   <br> but you need to be very precise.
   hammer: what do u mean ?
   JoernOtt: I always turn on logging, so I can see when things are failing
   hammer: let see i have 4 groups , how would i assign the permission after ?
   <br> i need some users to have access to group 1
   <br> others to group 2
   JoernOtt: After you did the LDAP setup, try to login with a user from LDAP (preferably with a 2nd browser, not another tab), so you can look into the log with the admin user on the first browser
   <br> If everything goes all right, the groups from LDAP have been created in tiki
   <br> then you can assign permissions to the groups
   <br> Every time a user logs in via LDAP account, the ldap groups are being replicated (and afaik also the user/group membership
   hammer: but the groups i am talking about are in my tiki now
   <br> i think understood me wrong
   <br> corrct me if i am wrong too
   JoernOtt: well, as soon as the user has logged on, he is created in tiki. you have to assign him to those groups
   hammer: correct
   <br> that means i have to assign it to each one who signs in
   <br> ?
   JoernOtt: yes, unless the groups are synchronized from ldap
   hammer: Oh
   <br> cool
   <br> i ll do some research on that synch
   <br> Thank you :)
   <br> my only problem now is I am updating from 2.2 to 8.3
   <br> i went to 3.8 then 6.5
   <br> but still having encoding problem
   <br> with database
   JoernOtt: when running the installer, there is some "fix database double encoding" setting which can fix some of those issues
   hammer: beleive me i tried them
   <br> and still
   <br> :)
   JoernOtt: so, the original database encoding was what?
   hammer: swedish latin
   JoernOtt: ok
   hammer: could be that ?
   JoernOtt: and the connection between tiki and db was also latin1?
   <br> or was it UTF8?
   hammer: it was YTF8
   <br> UTF8
   <br> that explain y ?
   JoernOtt: so, you stored UTF8 data but mysql believed, it was latin1 (using phpmyadmin you see weird umlauts)
   hammer: ok in my original 2.2
   <br> on phpmyadmin
   JoernOtt: yes
   hammer: mysql charset is UTF8
   JoernOtt: next step is to make sure that the settings for the 3.8 database are identical (wrong/messed up)
   hammer: but when i click on my database
   <br> the collation is latin1
   <br> under structure
   JoernOtt: and if you look into the tables via phpmyadmin, the special characters are messed up
   hammer: in original 2.2 u mean ?
   JoernOtt: yes
   hammer: ummm let's say i go to user-s permission table
   <br> where do i see that ?
   JoernOtt: well, you should rather look into tiki-pages which contains longer texts
   <br> the user permissions are mostly numbers
   hammer: oh wait
   <br> i am under tiki pages
   <br> that has too many pages
   JoernOtt: just open one entry
   <br> and look at the text
   <br> or maybe, you have a page where the name contains special characters
   hammer: ok i opened up one page
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   hammer: alt=&amp;quot;Help&amp;quot;}
   <br> !!Welcome to the Admin Homepage!
   <br> !{img src=pics/icons/help.png alt=&amp;quot;Help&amp;quot;}
   JoernOtt: that is all readable and English. there are no umlauts or exotic characters
   hammer: is that normal ?
   JoernOtt: yes
   <br> that is normal HTML/tiki syntax
   <br> which language are you using
   hammer: english
   JoernOtt: because English with its limited characters should not have any encoding problems
   hammer: yea
   <br> weird
   <br> could be becuause of the collation ?
   JoernOtt: so, what do the pages look like after an upgrade?
   hammer: only the main page that has a problem
   <br> where I have a menu
   JoernOtt: what is the problem there?
   hammer: it shows  {abdbsbhgsbshshsbshsbsbhssjissioisjosos}
   <br> stuff like that
   <br> could be because of the menu table : {MENUTABLE()}
   <br> ?
   <br> it is everything between the {MENUTABLE()}
   JoernOtt: that look more like a problem with the plugin menutable
   <br> not an encoding problem
   hammer: Oh
   <br> how can I fix that ?
   JoernOtt: well, first of all, have a look at the plugins admin page and see if the plugin is enabled
   hammer: Oh
   ricks99: <u>hammer</u>: there were many changes to plugin structures from 2.x -&gt; 3.x
   JoernOtt: I can't remember a plugin of that name, so maybe it has become deprecated some time ago
   ricks99: check relese notes for details on upgrading
   hammer: Oh
   <br> is it under Admin home ?
   <br> Now at least i knw it is not an encoding problem
   JoernOtt: yes, there is a tab edit/plugins
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   <br> tikiwiki: Tiki 6 exportation used to have this
   hammer: i dont see it ........i see features , general , login , look and feel etcc
   ricks99: <u>hammer</u>: see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/Text+area&amp;structure=Tiki+Reference+Guide
   JoernOtt: what comes after Look &amp; Feel?
   hammer: Thank u Rick
   JoernOtt: I see there "Editing and Plugins"
   hammer: i18n
   <br> text area, module, meta tags.......
   JoernOtt: so, you upgraded to which version?
   hammer: I am looking at 2.2 now
   <br> in my test i was using 8.2
   <br> the last one
   <br> but i m not in the Lab now
   <br> for testing
   <br> Lab env does not have access to this freechat, blocked
   JoernOtt: well, on 8.2, there is that tab (it did not exist in 2.2)
   hammer: so i am here at my desk
   <br> OHHHHHHHHHH
   <br> I see
   <br> :)
   <br> I will look into that then
   <br> and see if it is enabled
   <br> that's all what i should look for ?
   JoernOtt: there is a very long list of plugins
   hammer: Perfect
   <br> I will look into that
   JoernOtt: and for each plugin, you can see "enabled" and "make plugin inline" and some info
   hammer: btw there is also 1 mote thing
   <br> “  ” this char
   <br> does not work in 8.2
   <br> u know why ?
   <br> or how i can fix it
   <br> ?
   <br> some employee used this : “ ”
   JoernOtt: well, I see a space between the ""
   hammer: to put thier procedure online
   <br> therer is a words in between
   <br> sorry
   <br> like " “Next”
   <br> or “Server Management”.
   <br> this si whow it is
   <br> how it is
   JoernOtt: hehe, this is an encoding problem then because it is not a standard ascii character
   hammer: lol
   <br> any fix?
   NachoMahmaway: I'd try using "" instead of “”
   hammer: from now on i will
   ricks99: <u>hammer</u>: encoding issues when upgrading from versions prior to 3.x are common. Pls see the release notes for the fixes
   hammer: but what to do with dozens of pages
   <br> Perfect Thank you guys
   <br> I really appreciate your help : Joe, Rick :)
   <br> and nacho chips :P
   NachoMahmaway: :)
   ricks99: good luck :)
   hammer: btw wchich plugin use the Menutable ? lol
   <br> too many
   ricks99: what is "menutable"?
   <br> is that a custom plugin you've created?
   hammer: no
   <br> {MENUTABLE()}
   ricks99: That is not a standard Tiki plugin
   <br> what is it?
   hammer: ummmm it is used in my Tiki
   <br> Joe said it is a lugin
   <br> plugin
   JoernOtt: <u>ricks99</u>: Its Tiki 2.2
   ricks99: yes. it is a plugin... but one that is customized. There is no such plugin inlcuded w/ tiki
   <br> I find no reference in doc that it ever was: http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?find=menutable
   JoernOtt: well, I didn't find the page for maketoc either
   <br> with search
   hammer: i dont think it is customized
   JoernOtt: that doesn't count ;-)
   ricks99: maketoc isn't a plugin
   <br> <u>JoernOtt</u>: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginMaketoc
   hammer: {MENUTABLE()} is not customized
   <br> where did they get it from
   <br> then ?
   JoernOtt: <u>ricks99</u>: I found it "manually" but not via the search box
   <br> maybe hammer can look at the code
   <br> there should be a file *menutable* in lib/wikiplugins
   ricks99: <u>hammer</u>: there is no such plugin in the Tiki source: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ it must be something custom for your site
   hammer: is there any other types where I can make a menu table ?
   <br> in 8.2
   <br> ?
   <br> i will check my code
   ricks99: what is a menutable?
   hammer: let's say I want 3 pics on each line that refer to some pages
   <br> i wanna do 3 lines
   <br> 3 pics in each
   <br> and I want those pics to link somewhere else
   ricks99: {img src=xxxx link=yyyyy}{img src=xxxx link=yyyyy}{img src=xxxx link=yyyyy}
   <br> you can do that in a regular table
   hammer: true :s
   <br> but i still wanna look at my code
   <br> and see
   ricks99: sorry, but I don't quite understand what you're trying to do :(
   hammer: {MENUTABLE()}
   <br> Active Batch Prodedures ~|~
   <br> iSpectrum Procedures ~|~
   <br> Members Channels Produdures ~||~
   <br> {MENUTABLE}
   <br> this is how it looks here
   ricks99: <u>hammer</u>: {MENUTABLE()} is a custom plugin that you, or someone who admins your TIki, created.
   hammer: maybe Admins
   <br> yea
   <br> I will check that
   <br> because this is where i am having problem in tiki 8
   ricks99: yes. a custom 2.x plugin is *not* compatible with 8.x. Pls review the release notes to see how to upgrade your plugin
   hammer: Ok
   <br> much thx
   <br> much * 10 :)
   <br> I just took over here so it s kinda messed up lol
   ricks99: good luck :)
   hammer: yes it is custom i guess
   <br> Creates a table with rows flipping between a row of headers and a row of reglar data (usually icons are used)
   <br> function wikiplugin_menutable($data, $params) {
   <br> i have a feeling that s not a customized one :P i will insalla 2.2 verson and take a look in this folder
   RobertPlummerMob: Polom all
   hammer: ?
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   nilsge: I changed to Joomla for a new site because of all the nice themes available and I now regret it. Every single feature you would expect is either crap or commercial. Blog? Forum? pah!  Since my site is very new I am tempted to just install tikiwiki again, but I am not a designer :( This is problem for me now.
   <br> Tikiwiki is just better, but I have to say that Joomla pages look nicer. And I want a nice look :(
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