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Anyone have any experience with the structures TOC plugin?
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JoernOtt: DarkSlider: yes
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Jenser: good morning
found a bug in creating a new wiki page
-> creating a new page
-> typing name
if you type there a forbidden character (such as &) and continue, you will be forwarded to the "page editing" window
on top of this is the "rename" window for the wiki page (same as standalone "rename" window")
unfortunately there's no "apply change" AND there's no "save" button for the editor part of this page
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8942/tikiwikinameaendern.jpg
JoernOtt: What happens, if you change the name and click preview?
Jenser: i get the preview
still with the wrong name
and yet no "save" button or something helpful
"discard changes" leads to "site not known" (tiki is trying to open the "renamed" site
JoernOtt: I just tested it in a trunk installation and can confirm the missing button
However, I fixed the name (removed the &) and pressed return afterwards and that returned to the "normal" page
This behaviour is not intuitive, so you should file a bug and request a "change" button next to the rename box
Jenser: gonna search for the "bug corner" :D
grml
login @ dev.tiki.org drops error
(done - my fault)
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Jenser: when searching - is it possible to keep "highlighting" toggled on when clicking on a page found by the search engine?
-> when searching for "paul" and finding a page containing it - i'd like to have highlighted "paul" not only in the site-preview but also in this page...
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Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4180 - - "Change" and "Save" buttons are missing when typing a "new wiki page" name with forbidden chars (such as &) and proceeding to the editor-page for this site. - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4180
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JoernOtt: Jenser, afaik this is already happening. A customer of mine complains about that. He has the "Highlight results snippets" button deactivated on the Search page and the text in the pages is highlighted nonetheless
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Jenser: "this is happening" means it's gonna be in the next release?
ricks99: Jenser: should be available already in 8.x and 6LTS
DarkSlider: Found a bug in Structures TOC plugin, not sure if its isolated with me or widespread. When the option "shownum" is off, bullets are not being displayed, the TOC is just being listed as an unformatted list of links
ricks99: i haven't seen that. i nevery use numbers, and my {toc} plugin seems fine. maybe you're using a customized sytle?
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DarkSlider: no custom style, just a profile from tiki, and the darkroom theme
you can see it here www.dtsleech.com/wiki
I will take off the numbers
numbers are off
ricks99: in the darkroom theme, it appears that there are no bullets for non-numbered lists. see line 1370 of darkroom.css
list-style-type=none;
you could modify css as needed. probably want to maintin the margin-left, too
-: ricks99 not too familiar with the darkroom theme
Jyhem thinks sylvieg uses darkroom
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Jenser: ricks99 how to i get the search working as i want it? i am running 8.3 and "highighting" is not "forwarded"
ricks99: Nothing extra to do... beleive that is the way it is "supposed" to work
you have the option enabled, right?
Jenser: highlighting does work
typing my search term to the search box and hitting enter leads me to the "found documents"
there the search terms are highlighted as i want it
but
now clicking one of these documents opens them - but without highlighting the search term anymore
ricks99: works on tiki.org/home site, nothing additional to configure. two things to check:
1. when you click the document (from the search results), is there a ....&highlight=foo in your URL?
Jenser: nope
ricks99: 2. Are you using a custom style? do you have the necesary highlight classes?
Jenser: from start page (https://172.16.20.209/tiki-my_tiki.php)
i type my search string into search box
so i get search string in url...
https://172.16.20.209/tiki-searchindex.php?highlight=test&where=pages&search=Los
now i have forum posts, wiki pages,...
highlighted as suggested to
ricks99: you're using searchindex instead of searchresults.php. are you using tiki search or mysql?
Jenser: MySQL full text search is off
incremental hex update is off
tokenize version numers is off
unified search engine is lucene (php implementation)
there's nothing else to choose
ricks99: ah.. lucene search is still under development... not sure if highlighting is fully supported.
you can turn on the mysql full-text search
iirc, you can run both, together, without any issues
Jenser: perfect
thanks a lot
ricks99: you're welcome
Jenser: anyway
one more question to the search theme
how to include trackers...?
ricks99: 1. confirm that user has perm to access tracker
Jenser: i am searching as admin right now
ricks99: 2. confirm that the fields of the tracker have the SEARCH option enabled
Jenser: how to enable/disable this?
ricks99: #2? edit the tracker fields
Jenser: search doesn't even find the tracker's name
ricks99: must have at least 1 field in the tracker that is searchable
and search results are for tracker items -- not actual tracker (iirc)
Jenser: perfect
works fine
ricks99: :)
Jenser: next problem
...
:)
searching for something via search box
-: ricks99 runs to get another cup of coffee first... :)
Jenser: as a user not allowed to read all content
searching for search string included in a (for me invisible) post / wiki page
makes tikiwiki show me a preview of this page
clicking on this leads to a "not allowed" as intended
stop stop stop
could it be that the "mysql search engine" works better in this point?
seems like everythings fine right now
ricks99: confirm that you have the "Ignore individual object permissions " option disabled.
afaik, tiki should *not* show you any search results that you don't have the abilty to access
Jenser: ignore is off
ricks99: sounds like a bug then
Jenser: as mentionned - now it's working fine
ricks99: check the bug reports, possbily a known issue?
oh... possibly related to lucene then.
Jenser: yap
switched back to lucene
same behaviour
reason could be that "ignore individual object permissions" belongs to MySQL Full-Text Search
ricks99: +1
Jenser: so toggling this off -> ...
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Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4181 - - "Ignore individual object permissions" not working for Lucene Engine - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4181
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hey ricks99. thanks for the help earlier. wondering if you might help figure out the next mystery on this one lol :P
changed the padding on it to create the indent, and set line-type-style to square
yet still no bullets lol
ricks99: 1 sec and i'll take a look
DarkSlider: no rush, gonna grab a cig
ricks99: DarkSlider: try adding this to the look & feel custom css: .toc * {padding-left:1em;list-style-type: square;}
DarkSlider: thanks that worked, just have to modify the padding a bit
ricks99: no problem. if you're new to css, check out the w3c tutorials: http://www.w3schools.com/css/
DarkSlider: Nah Im good with css, was just trying to edit the actual .css file, and it wasnt taking. Putting it in the custom css field worked :) Just new to tiki lol
ricks99: cool
note that with the look & feel page, you can modify almost anythihg from within Tiki -- no more FTPing
DarkSlider: While im in here, any way to use the custom CSS field to mod certain lines of the TOC bullets with images while leaving the others circles. I know I would do it with the css, but Im not sure how I would tell tiki to look for li class a instead of li
yeah thats a pretty clever page, I like it
ricks99: can use the :first-child and :last-child pseudo-elemnts.
is that what you mean?
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-: Jyhem_laptop is comparing menustructure and menu
ricks99 would love it if Jyhem_laptop could make Menu (when using a structure) show the top-most node first (that is, the Structure ID)
Jyhem_laptop: That's exactly the thing I wondered if I could not find or was not there !
Amazingly, menustructure also did not have it
ricks99: there's also a bug ive been trying to figure out... if you put an invalid structure ID, tiki does show the top-most, but for *all* structures
and sometimes the links don't generate
very odd
Jyhem_laptop: I guess the top-most must be some kind of "0" structure. I saw that while putting the structure "name" instead of the structure number
DarkSlider: sorry was smoking lol. I am guessing that is what I mean. Since the list starts with <li> (<ul> being the title of the structure) I want to be able to differentiate between a first paeg <li> and its sub <li> set
-: ricks99 Happy that Jyhem_laptop is on it. I'm 100% sure it will be fixed :)
Jyhem_laptop: So far, the only difference I see is, menustructure expects the structure name (otherwise it displays an error), and menu expects the number (otherwise it displays *all* structures)
Plus, menu has more display control features
Right now, I'm interested in USING it for my customers site :-)
ricks99: lol.
-: ricks99 still keeping his fingers crossed that Jyhem can fix it :)
ricks99: DarkCalf you can specify the first level as ul.toc li.toclevel {....} and second level as ul.toc li.toclevel ul.toc li.toclevel {....} etc. this allows you to style each level differenctlt
Jyhem_laptop: UI-wise, I suppose the sensible thing would be that the top-most node is the default menu title, and the menu title is a link to the top-most node. Does that look intuitive ?
Adding one more level would be silly, since the top-most node would be alone using the space for the top level
ricks99: Jyhem_laptop: depends. if you only want to show a single structure, then yes. but i have a use case where I want to show several structures in a single module
Jyhem_laptop: and in case of suckerfish, you would only see the top-most node
ricks99: i want to have a different (non-structure) module title, and have each strcture start with its top-most node
DarkSlider: K thnanks ricks
Jyhem_laptop: in a single menu module ??? How do you achieve that ?
ricks99: using multiple MODULE plugins in a custom module
{module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="1" type="vert"}{module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="2" type="vert"} etc
Jyhem_laptop: is that inside a page ?
ricks99: no. in a custom module
simply requires that "must be wiki parsed" be enabled
have a use case for a site with multiple structures, but wan'ts a single navigation module to include all four
... all four structures
Jyhem_laptop: so for now you have to do ((top node of struct 1)){module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="1" type="vert"}((top node of struct 2)){module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="2" type="vert"} etc ?
only it does not show structures as dynamic suckerfish sub-folders, I guess
ricks99: y, it works fine... but it shows the first level of items for each stucutre. what i want is it to show only the structure *name*
-: Jyhem_laptop also wants a solution that looks nice for a single structure, which is kind of the majority use
ricks99: for a single structure, doesn't it work fine? it does for me
-: Jyhem_laptop feels a bunch of additional options are coming
Jyhem_laptop: for a single structure, there is no mention or link to the top-most node
unless I include the top-most node as the first item in the structure from which it is the top-most node
ricks99: ahh.. yes. i see your issue now. i get around that by using a custom module and manually adding a link to the structure top
so, my custom module looks like:
((link to my top-node)) 02{module module="menu" notitle="y" nobox="y" structureId="XXX" type="vert"} 01
Jyhem_laptop: That's about exactly what I would expect the menu to do by itself. No user is going to figure that out :-(
-: Jyhem_laptop tries it now
ricks99: add that to the long list of things that I'd expect tiki to just "do"
-: Jyhem_laptop realises that custom modules have really made things simpler. Nice
Jyhem_laptop spent too much time on Tiki 3 and 6 :-(
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hello guys
is LDAP possible on wiki ?
does anyone run it ?
JoernOtt: hammer, I use openLDAP for user authentication
and I managed to get user auth running with Active Directory, but no group sync
hammer: Perfect
but how u manage the group permission after ?
JoernOtt: usually groups are synchronized with LDAP, but I never used it for that
hammer: is this enough for me as documentation ? is that all what i should do ?
http://doc.tiki.org/LDAP+authentication
JoernOtt: yes
but you need to be very precise.
hammer: what do u mean ?
JoernOtt: I always turn on logging, so I can see when things are failing
hammer: let see i have 4 groups , how would i assign the permission after ?
i need some users to have access to group 1
others to group 2
JoernOtt: After you did the LDAP setup, try to login with a user from LDAP (preferably with a 2nd browser, not another tab), so you can look into the log with the admin user on the first browser
If everything goes all right, the groups from LDAP have been created in tiki
then you can assign permissions to the groups
Every time a user logs in via LDAP account, the ldap groups are being replicated (and afaik also the user/group membership
hammer: but the groups i am talking about are in my tiki now
i think understood me wrong
corrct me if i am wrong too
JoernOtt: well, as soon as the user has logged on, he is created in tiki. you have to assign him to those groups
hammer: correct
that means i have to assign it to each one who signs in
?
JoernOtt: yes, unless the groups are synchronized from ldap
hammer: Oh
cool
i ll do some research on that synch
Thank you :)
my only problem now is I am updating from 2.2 to 8.3
i went to 3.8 then 6.5
but still having encoding problem
with database
JoernOtt: when running the installer, there is some "fix database double encoding" setting which can fix some of those issues
hammer: beleive me i tried them
and still
:)
JoernOtt: so, the original database encoding was what?
hammer: swedish latin
JoernOtt: ok
hammer: could be that ?
JoernOtt: and the connection between tiki and db was also latin1?
or was it UTF8?
hammer: it was YTF8
UTF8
that explain y ?
JoernOtt: so, you stored UTF8 data but mysql believed, it was latin1 (using phpmyadmin you see weird umlauts)
hammer: ok in my original 2.2
on phpmyadmin
JoernOtt: yes
hammer: mysql charset is UTF8
JoernOtt: next step is to make sure that the settings for the 3.8 database are identical (wrong/messed up)
hammer: but when i click on my database
the collation is latin1
under structure
JoernOtt: and if you look into the tables via phpmyadmin, the special characters are messed up
hammer: in original 2.2 u mean ?
JoernOtt: yes
hammer: ummm let's say i go to user-s permission table
where do i see that ?
JoernOtt: well, you should rather look into tiki-pages which contains longer texts
the user permissions are mostly numbers
hammer: oh wait
i am under tiki pages
that has too many pages
JoernOtt: just open one entry
and look at the text
or maybe, you have a page where the name contains special characters
hammer: ok i opened up one page
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hammer: alt="Help"}
!!Welcome to the Admin Homepage!
!{img src=pics/icons/help.png alt="Help"}
JoernOtt: that is all readable and English. there are no umlauts or exotic characters
hammer: is that normal ?
JoernOtt: yes
that is normal HTML/tiki syntax
which language are you using
hammer: english
JoernOtt: because English with its limited characters should not have any encoding problems
hammer: yea
weird
could be becuause of the collation ?
JoernOtt: so, what do the pages look like after an upgrade?
hammer: only the main page that has a problem
where I have a menu
JoernOtt: what is the problem there?
hammer: it shows {abdbsbhgsbshshsbshsbsbhssjissioisjosos}
stuff like that
could be because of the menu table : {MENUTABLE()}
?
it is everything between the {MENUTABLE()}
JoernOtt: that look more like a problem with the plugin menutable
not an encoding problem
hammer: Oh
how can I fix that ?
JoernOtt: well, first of all, have a look at the plugins admin page and see if the plugin is enabled
hammer: Oh
ricks99: hammer: there were many changes to plugin structures from 2.x -> 3.x
JoernOtt: I can't remember a plugin of that name, so maybe it has become deprecated some time ago
ricks99: check relese notes for details on upgrading
hammer: Oh
is it under Admin home ?
Now at least i knw it is not an encoding problem
JoernOtt: yes, there is a tab edit/plugins
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tikiwiki: Tiki 6 exportation used to have this
hammer: i dont see it ........i see features , general , login , look and feel etcc
ricks99: hammer: see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/Text+area&structure=Tiki+Reference+Guide
JoernOtt: what comes after Look & Feel?
hammer: Thank u Rick
JoernOtt: I see there "Editing and Plugins"
hammer: i18n
text area, module, meta tags.......
JoernOtt: so, you upgraded to which version?
hammer: I am looking at 2.2 now
in my test i was using 8.2
the last one
but i m not in the Lab now
for testing
Lab env does not have access to this freechat, blocked
JoernOtt: well, on 8.2, there is that tab (it did not exist in 2.2)
hammer: so i am here at my desk
OHHHHHHHHHH
I see
:)
I will look into that then
and see if it is enabled
that's all what i should look for ?
JoernOtt: there is a very long list of plugins
hammer: Perfect
I will look into that
JoernOtt: and for each plugin, you can see "enabled" and "make plugin inline" and some info
hammer: btw there is also 1 mote thing
“ ” this char
does not work in 8.2
u know why ?
or how i can fix it
?
some employee used this : “ ”
JoernOtt: well, I see a space between the ""
hammer: to put thier procedure online
therer is a words in between
sorry
like " “Next”
or “Server Management”.
this si whow it is
how it is
JoernOtt: hehe, this is an encoding problem then because it is not a standard ascii character
hammer: lol
any fix?
NachoMahmaway: I'd try using "" instead of “”
hammer: from now on i will
ricks99: hammer: encoding issues when upgrading from versions prior to 3.x are common. Pls see the release notes for the fixes
hammer: but what to do with dozens of pages
Perfect Thank you guys
I really appreciate your help : Joe, Rick :)
and nacho chips :P
NachoMahmaway: :)
ricks99: good luck :)
hammer: btw wchich plugin use the Menutable ? lol
too many
ricks99: what is "menutable"?
is that a custom plugin you've created?
hammer: no
{MENUTABLE()}
ricks99: That is not a standard Tiki plugin
what is it?
hammer: ummmm it is used in my Tiki
Joe said it is a lugin
plugin
JoernOtt: ricks99: Its Tiki 2.2
ricks99: yes. it is a plugin... but one that is customized. There is no such plugin inlcuded w/ tiki
I find no reference in doc that it ever was: http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?find=menutable
JoernOtt: well, I didn't find the page for maketoc either
with search
hammer: i dont think it is customized
JoernOtt: that doesn't count ;-)
ricks99: maketoc isn't a plugin
JoernOtt: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginMaketoc
hammer: {MENUTABLE()} is not customized
where did they get it from
then ?
JoernOtt: ricks99: I found it "manually" but not via the search box
maybe hammer can look at the code
there should be a file *menutable* in lib/wikiplugins
ricks99: hammer: there is no such plugin in the Tiki source: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ it must be something custom for your site
hammer: is there any other types where I can make a menu table ?
in 8.2
?
i will check my code
ricks99: what is a menutable?
hammer: let's say I want 3 pics on each line that refer to some pages
i wanna do 3 lines
3 pics in each
and I want those pics to link somewhere else
ricks99: {img src=xxxx link=yyyyy}{img src=xxxx link=yyyyy}{img src=xxxx link=yyyyy}
you can do that in a regular table
hammer: true :s
but i still wanna look at my code
and see
ricks99: sorry, but I don't quite understand what you're trying to do :(
hammer: {MENUTABLE()}
Active Batch Prodedures ~|~
iSpectrum Procedures ~|~
Members Channels Produdures ~||~
{MENUTABLE}
this is how it looks here
ricks99: hammer: {MENUTABLE()} is a custom plugin that you, or someone who admins your TIki, created.
hammer: maybe Admins
yea
I will check that
because this is where i am having problem in tiki 8
ricks99: yes. a custom 2.x plugin is *not* compatible with 8.x. Pls review the release notes to see how to upgrade your plugin
hammer: Ok
much thx
much * 10 :)
I just took over here so it s kinda messed up lol
ricks99: good luck :)
hammer: yes it is custom i guess
Creates a table with rows flipping between a row of headers and a row of reglar data (usually icons are used)
function wikiplugin_menutable($data, $params) {
i have a feeling that s not a customized one :P i will insalla 2.2 verson and take a look in this folder
RobertPlummerMob: Polom all
hammer: ?
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nilsge: I changed to Joomla for a new site because of all the nice themes available and I now regret it. Every single feature you would expect is either crap or commercial. Blog? Forum? pah! Since my site is very new I am tempted to just install tikiwiki again, but I am not a designer :( This is problem for me now.
Tikiwiki is just better, but I have to say that Joomla pages look nicer. And I want a nice look :(
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