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[10:33] blackbird_ is there a way to include pages (or parts of it) into other pages? e.g. I created a page about sparrows and now want to create a page about birds and include the page about sparrows?
[10:53] xavi blackbird_: see http://doc.tiki.org/PluginInclude
[10:55] blackbird_ thnx
[11:0] xavi you are welcome
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[11:19] Bernard1 Hi blackbird_, xavi !
[11:20] blackbird_ hi Bernard1
[11:20] blackbird_ or as I learned to say: polom! .-)
[11:51] xavi hi Bernard1
[11:53] Bernard1 polom blackbird_
[11:53] Bernard1 :)
[11:53] Bernard1 Xavi have you ever use mail notification in another language than en ?
[11:53] xavi Bernard1: yes
[11:55] Bernard1 do you have an sample of use that work, i need some ref. i'm trying to check why i can't get "he" messages
[11:59] Bernard1 I mean i use article submission, post and wiki editing = no translation :(
[12:6] xavi I'm using proposals/6x...
[12:6] xavi let me check...
[12:6] Bernard1 tks
[12:8] xavi Bernard1: emails from wiki page monitoring just works (the strings that are translated in language.php come translated in the email)
[12:9] xavi Bernard1: just play with the tiki settings under "Admin home > multilingual", and ensure that your user has selected the right language preferences under his user preferences, etc.
[12:10] Bernard1 ok… that's give me some direction.
[12:10] Bernard1 (never used notification b4r)
[12:16] xavi read this: http://doc.tiki.org/i18n
[12:16] xavi and http://doc.tiki.org/Watch
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[12:22] jonnyb polom
[12:22] xavi pom-pom
[12:22] xavi how are you jonnyb?
[12:22] * jonnyb is glad to finally be back at home
[12:22] jonnyb :)
[12:22] xavi still somewhere up north uk?
[12:23] xavi ah, ok
[12:23] jonnyb no, back
[12:23] * xavi should read all messages before writing on irc
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[12:23] jonnyb hi ricks99 too
[12:24] ricks99 polom y'all
[12:24] jonnyb xavi: did you get a chance to re-check the structures admin fixes?
[12:24] xavi btw, jonnyb, after more than 2 years looking around, I finally found something like the usb device you showed me in 2009 (?) to plug an external mic to a macbook* laptop
[12:24] xavi hi ricks99
[12:24] ricks99 hi xavi & jonnyb
[12:24] xavi jonnyb: re-check, nope, I'll do today
[12:25] jonnyb i'm going to try and do the same to menu admin before we branch...
[12:25] xavi ricks99: I saw a few days ago that there is a copy of tiki for smarties on scribd
[12:25] xavi is that right, or was I dreaming?
[12:25] xavi oups, ricks99 dissapeared
[12:26] xavi jonnyb: btw, did you see the work I did identifying the mysql tables that need (deserve) and search&replace for pics/icons into img/icons at the upgrade process?
[12:26] xavi I reported everything in http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki9
[12:26] jonnyb no sorry, missed that
[12:26] xavi and started searching for the mysql commands to replace those paths with a sql script
[12:27] xavi but I'm not sure (newbie here, yet) if this also applied to BLOB fields in mysql tables, etc.
[12:27] jonnyb i tihnk the fix to the icon object should make most WSoD's go away now
[12:27] xavi jonnyb: and JSmin issues?
[12:27] jonnyb you can't do the toolbar patth fixes with sql - needs to be php
[12:28] xavi producing WSOD still a few days ago for me in a few different servers when attempting upgrades from 6x
[12:28] jonnyb not seen them, so can't reproduce i'm afraid
[12:28] xavi toolbar fixes: the path to the icon was stored in tiki_preferences table, for what I saw
[12:28] xavi why not using just sql?
[12:28] xavi ^newbie question for sure
[12:28] jonnyb http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=40232&view=rev
[12:29] jonnyb cos they are serialized php objects (well, you did ask!)
[12:29] jonnyb it stores the length of the string as well in there, so if you change a value you have to recalculate that
[12:30] xavi ah, ok, thanks (slowly learning)
[12:30] xavi however, beyond my skills, I presume.... so I hope that my work identifying those tables would help to others to make that php fix
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[12:39] ricks99 back :-)
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[12:42] xavi hi ricks99-back :-)
[12:42] xavi ricks99: I saw a few days ago that there is a copy of tiki for smarties on scribd
[12:42] xavi was I dreaming?
[12:44] xavi I tried to log in scribd to download it, but then it requested my facebook credentials, and I was informed that I would be granting too many permissions to scribd to do in my facebook account, etc. , so I disabled all those extra permissions granted, ... the result is that I couldn't see the download link of the tiki for smarties book....
[12:44] ricks99 y. i refreshed the scribd versions of "Smarties" and "Essentials" a few weeks ago
[12:45] xavi the fact if that I scanned a couple of chapters for my users, so that whan we have some workshop teaching our users about tiki trackers, then I give them a copy of those chapters, as scanned-and-printed  again (in black and white)
[12:45] ricks99 hm... *supposed* to be public/free.... let me check
[12:45] xavi and some of them just want to read them every now and then online...
[12:45] xavi and they would appreciate to have that in color, or course (the books I bought are in black and white)
[12:45] ricks99 The quality of the Scribd PDF is so-so... it is a straight dump from Tiki
[12:46] xavi and so are the scanned pages, of course
[12:46] ricks99 I can make color books avaialable, if you're interested... not sure of the pricing
[12:46] xavi quality of Scribd pdf would be probably be fine. If they want a better quality document, they can buy your books :-)
[12:46] ricks99 :-)
[12:47] ricks99 Ahh... I see Scribd changed their TOS... you must have an account and log in (either Scribd or Facebook) to download the PDF
[12:48] xavi mmmm, ok. I did have some account on scribd years ago... I 'll see if I can recover the username and password
[12:48] ricks99 you can always just make a Scribd account, instead of using FB login
[12:48] ricks99 sorry about that... do you know of any better/other alternatives?
[12:49] xavi yes, thanks, I'll try something like that, for the next time I have to organize another workshop (last one was yesterday with a bunch of my co-workers)
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[12:49] xavi jquery media plugin, to display pdf's online?
[12:49] xavi that used to work in the past with tiki something....
[12:49] xavi but stopped working afaik
[12:50] ricks99 can simply use HTML plugin.. <embed....>
[12:50] ricks99 requires Acro Reader on the user's PC though
[12:51] ricks99 .... or just tell your co-workers to buy the book. :-)
[12:54] Bernard1 polom back
[12:56] ricks99 hi Bernard1
[12:59] jonnyb can anyone suggest the "best" irc client for Windoze?
[12:59] ricks99 i like trillian
[12:59] Bernard1 i used pidgin, was fine
[12:59] RobertPlummer jonnyb: pidgin.
[13:0] jonnyb hi RobertPlummer
[13:1] NachoMahma FileZilla works well for me
[13:2] jonnyb thanks all
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[13:10] RobertPlummer hi jonnyb
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[13:10] RobertPlummer We are all pretty active today, aye?
[13:10] jonnyb hi RobertPlummer
[13:10] RobertPlummer Time for a branch everybody?
[13:10] jonnyb and hi frumplete
[13:10] jonnyb no, not yet pls RobertPlummer
[13:11] frumplete hi Jonny - this is well old school
[13:11] RobertPlummer :)
[13:11] jonnyb on a call with frumplete (who really i called Simon) introducing him to you all
[13:11] jonnyb he's reading ricks99's book(s)
[13:11] RobertPlummer Hey frumplete
[13:12] * ricks99 happy to be the best-selling tiki author of ALL TIME.
[13:12] jonnyb :D
[13:12] RobertPlummer ricks99: How many books thus far?
[13:12] ricks99 2. with 1 German translation under way, and an entire "series" of guides planned
[13:12] frumplete Hi Robert - Jonny is just holding my hand through this
[13:12] ricks99 hiya frumplete
[13:13] RobertPlummer frumplete: Tiki admins are great at that.
[13:13] frumplete hi ricks99
[13:13] RobertPlummer frumplete: You will be an avid Tiki-er be for long.
[13:13] frumplete Jonny thought this would be a good place to come if i WAS LOSt and he wasn't arouind
[13:14] RobertPlummer frumplete: Yea, the thing about Tiki is that it has so many sides, and there are experts of all of them.
[13:14] blackbird_ I can't upload files ("cannot write to this file") – but I have correctly set chmod/chown and my php.ini max file size vars. anyone any idea what still might be wrong?
[13:15] ricks99 blackbird_: you're saving the files in a file directory, right? did you include the "/" ?
[13:17] xavi back
[13:17] blackbird_ ricks99: yes, in directory. you mean the trailing slash?
[13:17] ricks99 correct
[13:18] xavi ricks99: that's what I always say: buy the book. :-) and in the mean time, where you have a low-quality version in pdf of thoese chapter, etc.
[13:19] ricks99 xavi: curious... where does the shipping originate when you ordered? UK?
[13:20] blackbird_ ricks99: yes, included the trailing slash
[13:21] xavi ricks99: no idea.... months ago
[13:21] xavi ricks99: I first ordered one copy of each, just after you publised them
[13:21] ricks99 blackbird_: is the directory outside your tiki root?
[13:22] xavi and a few months ago (9?) I ordered 3 copies of each
[13:22] blackbird_ ricks99: no, it's inside
[13:22] blackbird_ and I am using the relative path "files/uploads/"
[13:23] blackbird_ occuring error: "[...] file_put_contents(/files/uploads/f170542cb6fd2f68d5e3e7298af73377): failed to open stream: No such file or directory"
[13:23] xavi blackbird_: check the path
[13:23] xavi if this is supposed to be a subfolder from your tiki install , you need to add a dot infront
[13:23] ricks99 "<TIKI ROOT> / files / uploads" is valid? And correct perms?
[13:24] xavi or as ricjks says, absolute path
[13:24] ricks99 on your file admin page, is your path "/files/upload/" or "files/upload/" ?
[13:24] xavi for relative, you might try with: "./files/uploads"
[13:25] blackbird_ no, it is a subfolder from my tiki folder. I have correct rights (777) and it is "files/uploads/" in my tiki admin
[13:25] blackbird_ I'll try the dot variant
[13:26] xavi and check perms on both folders (files and uploads)
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[13:27] blackbird_ yeah, perms are 775 (not 777) for files/ and files/uploads
[13:28] ricks99 if path is relative, nees to *NOT* have "/" in front
[13:28] blackbird_ ./files/uploads does not work either, but curiously it still says: "file_put_contents(/files/uploads/f170542cb6fd2f68d5e3e7298af73377): failed to open stream: No such file or directory" – what tells me that it still uses the /files/uploads what is not relative but absolute
[13:28] blackbird_ ricks99: yeah, that's clear. /files/uploads is absolute, beginning from root (/)
[13:29] ricks99 this is tiki 8.3?
[13:30] blackbird_ ricks99: yes
[13:31] ricks99 and your 1000% sure no typos in directory name? and 7-7-5 for FILES and UPLOADS
[13:31] * ricks99 *always* makes typos :(
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[13:33] Hammer someone availabale ?
[13:33] Hammer I am goignt o upgrade from 2.2 to 8.2 , what should I proceed ? 3.8 then 5.x then 6.x then 8.x ?
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[13:35] blackbird_ re. had conprobs
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[13:35] Hammer_ ricks99
[13:36] ricks99 Hammer: you can upgrade directly, but be aware of *many* changes. review all release notes
[13:36] blackbird_ so back to topic, still doesn't work. I was using "files/uploads" and "./files/uploads" but it always tells me it can't upload to "/files/uploads"
[13:36] Hammer_ if i wanna go
[13:36] blackbird_ I'll try using an absolut path
[13:36] Hammer_ through old ones
[13:36] Hammer_ what do u recommend
[13:36] Hammer_ ?
[13:37] ricks99 Hammer_: I see no reason to go through all the old ones. Again, be sure to review the release noetes. There were *many* important changes (perms, plugins, etc.) from 2.x -> 8.x
[13:37] ricks99 blackbird_: you're 1000% sure that there is no typo in folder name and that perm is 7-7-5?
[13:37] blackbird_ yes, sure on both
[13:38] Hammer_ i dotn really use many plugins in my pages-----most likely : maketoc , div, BOX, Split
[13:38] Hammer_ that's all
[13:38] Hammer_ and table of course
[13:38] ricks99 blackbird_: when you creaed the tiki gallery, are you using any special options? (such as require regex match, etc.?)
[13:39] ricks99 Hammer_: run a test... be sure to backup first!
[13:39] Hammer_ ok
[13:39] Hammer_ I will
[13:39] blackbird_ no, I haven't
[13:40] Hammer_ is there a procedue on how to export my DATABASE using PHPmyADMIN
[13:40] Hammer_ ?
[13:40] Hammer_ can I export it while wiki running ?
[13:43] ricks99 Hammer_: see http://bit.ly/GBbqRs <shamless plug>
[13:44] ricks99 blackbird_: for a test, can you switch to saving in db and try a quick upload. if it works, then i'm 99.99% sure it is a setup issue -- not a tiki failure, per se
[13:45] blackbird_ ricks99: ok
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[13:48] blackbird_ ricks99, xavi: this is weird. I changed to the absolute path but it still says "file_put_contents(/files/uploads/f170542cb6fd2f68d5e3e7298af73377): failed to open stream: No such file or directory"
[13:50] blackbird_ ricks99: even more weird: I changed to saving in db and it still has the same error...?!
[13:50] ricks99 did you clear tiki cache?
[13:54] blackbird_ hmmm, no... ;)
[13:56] ricks99 ah ha!
[14:0] Hammer_ ricks
[14:0] Hammer_ ?
[14:0] Hammer_ my database is 40 MB
[14:0] Hammer_ i will import it manually
[14:1] Hammer_ but u think i should change php.ini\
[14:1] Hammer_ ?
[14:1] Hammer_ max_exuction_time
[14:1] Hammer_ ?
[14:1] ricks99 ok
[14:2] Hammer_ should i do anything with php.ini ?
[14:3] Hammer_ or no
[14:4] ricks99 for recommended php.ini settings, see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/requirements
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[14:12] Hammer_ ricks last question
[14:12] Hammer_ 8.2 or 8.3 should i use
[14:12] Hammer_ :) ?
[14:12] Hammer_ 2.2 to 8.3 is good ?
[14:12] Hammer_ dont worry about the changes in between ...i ll take care of that
[14:13] ricks99 current release is 8.3 see http://tiki.org/download
[14:14] Hammer_ i know
[14:14] Hammer_ but upgarde to this from 2.2.
[14:14] ricks99 use 8.3 -- not 8.2 ^^^
[14:14] Hammer_ is also good workable
[14:14] Hammer_ right ?
[14:14] Hammer_ ok :)
[14:14] Hammer_ :)
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[14:27] Jyhem_laptop polom
[14:28] jonnyb hi Jyhem_laptop
[14:28] Jyhem_laptop hi jonnyb
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[14:38] blackbird_ ricks99: even after clearing cache no satisfactory result.
[14:38] blackbird_ :/
[14:39] ricks99 blackbird_: can you review server logs? I'm at a loss -- should work
[14:41] blackbird_ np, I'll check the logs
[14:54] jonnyb bbl
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[15:2] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [ENH] TrackerQueryLib becomes Tracker_Query, and is now included as part of the Zend class system
[15:2] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [ENH] Before TrackerQueryLib was initiated at startup, but now needed to change a few methods to static to ensure loading correctly
[15:10] Bernard1 i had to change a text string for clarification in a .tpl file. What is the right process then for the lang files ? (i can commit en, fr and he) but i want to be sure it is ok.
[15:14] RobertPlummer Xavi and I are talking about using folders/not using folders for tiki "apps", one example is invoice and another is admin.
[15:14] RobertPlummer What do you guys think?
[15:14] RobertPlummer I'd like to move anything to do with tiki invoice to it's own folder, so that it makes developing faster.
[15:14] blackbird_ Bernard1: please commit de as well .-)
[15:14] RobertPlummer I don't have to find all the files when I start developing.
[15:15] blackbird_ RobertPlummer: I personally support the approach of putting app files into an app specific folder
[15:16] RobertPlummer We already did it with admin, lets to it with others.
[15:16] Bernard1 blackbird_:  i should have spoke german for that
[15:16] Bernard1 :)
[15:16] xavi RobertPlummer: maybe the devel list is needed for this discussion, if you don't get enough feedback for long standing developers of tiki with this change you propose
[15:16] blackbird_ Bernard1: can you /msg me the parts so I can translate?
[15:17] RobertPlummer xavi, I have enough +1's for tiki/invoice, I guess the question comes down to should we make a folder for just apps?
[15:17] xavi for the sake of completeness to be included in the irc log, I copy here the arguments from jyhem in skype:
[15:17] RobertPlummer ok
[15:17] xavi jyhem: If pages have urls like /apps/something I guess nobody knows how the images and css will react, especially for third party included stuff, like ckeditor
[15:17] xavi jyhem: not to mention sefurls
[15:18] Bernard1 blackbird_:  wait i get confirmation this is ok.
[15:18] RobertPlummer But we already have tiki/admin, why not follow that same approach.
[15:18] xavi Robert, regarding speed (in life), there is a quote I like a lot from the grass-roots movements in Spain from this last year:
[15:18] xavi "we are slow, because we go far away"
[15:19] xavi kind of ("vamos lentos porque vamos lejos")
[15:19] xavi keep it in mind, I would say, when you are worried about "speed"
[15:19] xavi my 2 cents
[15:20] * xavi back to urgent work for today
[15:21] Jyhem_laptop I see that the admin directory only has include files in it, so my concern about urls like /apps/something is void
[15:23] * Jyhem_laptop wonders if xavi's quote is like "today's problems are yesterday's solutions" :-)
[15:25] Jyhem_laptop Remaining concern: what happens on a Tiki site with sefurls active and someone creates the wiki page "apps" and there is a "apps" directory ? Trouble ? No trouble ? One more line in .htaccess ?
[15:25] * Jyhem_laptop avoids sefurls, so I have no ready site to test that
[15:26] ricks99 Jyhem_laptop: handled by htaccess. compare http://doc.tiki.org/Modules with http://doc.tiki.org/modules
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[15:31] * Jyhem_laptop sees no reference to modules in _htaccess. So apparently, no issue on that side either
[15:33] Jyhem_laptop oh, http://doc.tiki.org/modules gets an error :-(
[15:34] NachoMahma Capital-M and singular
[15:34] NachoMahma http://doc.tiki.org/Module
[15:40] * Jyhem_laptop wonders if features would not convey the meaning better than apps. Definitely a conversation for he mailing list
[15:41] Jyhem_laptop NachoMahma: my point was not to access the doc page, I was looking at the consequences of having a "modules" directory in the Tiki root folder
[15:42] NachoMahma Oh. http://doc.tiki.org/modules/
[16:8] Hammer_ question
[16:8] Hammer_ question
[16:9] Hammer_ Urgent
[16:9] Hammer_ when I am imnporting my databse
[16:9] Hammer_ i get an error
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[16:10] Hammer_ Error 1062 (23000) at line 365 Duplicate entry 1 for key PRIMARY
[16:10] blackbird_ And http://doc.tiki.org/Structure is also not found (linked from tiki admin)
[16:12] Hammer_ ?
[16:17] Jyhem Hammer_: the db importing stuff must be a collation or encoding change
[16:18] Hammer_ what do u mean
[16:18] Hammer_ ?
[16:18] Hammer_ i already set my db to be UTF
[16:18] Jyhem what were collation and encoding before you exported ?
[16:18] Jyhem OK, that's the new encoding
[16:19] Jyhem where does the db come from ?
[16:19] Hammer_ Phpmuyadmin
[16:19] Hammer_ i export it from there
[16:19] Hammer_ when I forst login into phpmyadmin
[16:19] Jyhem same site ?
[16:19] Hammer_ i see
[16:19] Hammer_ MySQL charset: UTF-8 Unicode (utf8)
[16:20] Hammer_ when i click on my database
[16:20] Jyhem sorry, encoding == charset
[16:20] Hammer_ i see collation : latin swedish
[16:21] Jyhem is that the origin db (fro which you exported the db) ?
[16:21] Hammer_ yes
[16:21] Hammer_ origin
[16:21] Jyhem and the destination db ?
[16:21] Hammer_ i set it up using
[16:21] Hammer_ Webmin
[16:21] Hammer_ on redhat
[16:22] Hammer_ utf 8 as encosing
[16:22] Hammer_ and collation = tuf 8 general
[16:23] Jyhem oh, wait... the origin db is inconsistent :-(
[16:24] Hammer_ what does thart mean ?
[16:24] Hammer_ lol
[16:25] Jyhem You have UTF8 content, but it believes you have latin content for the collaton rules
[16:25] Hammer_ yes
[16:25] Hammer_ how i fix that ?
[16:25] Hammer_ they set it up in 2008 by default
[16:25] Hammer_ i guess
[16:25] Jyhem collation rules are the rules which say what is the order of letters in alphabet, and also, which letter is the same as the other
[16:25] Hammer_ so it took latin swedish
[16:26] Jyhem do you have accents in your db ?
[16:27] Hammer_ yes
[16:27] Hammer_ i think
[16:27] Jyhem you might have one page named "test" and one named "tést".
[16:28] Hammer_ umm no
[16:28] Jyhem with correct collation, this is impossible (same key)
[16:28] Hammer_ OH shitttt i imported it to a database
[16:28] Hammer_ that the use has no access to
[16:28] Hammer_ lol
[16:28] Hammer_ i have wikitest and testwiki
[16:29] Hammer_ i choose the incorret one that's running
[16:29] Jyhem Ahhh, then it already had content ?
[16:29] Hammer_ no first dababase has 0 conetent
[16:30] Hammer_ i should overite the one
[16:30] Hammer_ that tiki use
[16:30] Hammer_ what's the link for the installer again ?
[16:30] Jyhem tiki-installer.php
[16:31] Hammer_ i deleted it my databse
[16:31] Hammer_ how can I overstart
[16:31] Jyhem sorry tiki-install.php
[16:32] Hammer_ yea
[16:32] Hammer_ but it is asking me if databse is running LOL
[16:32] Hammer_ my databse is nio longer there
[16:33] Jyhem what, restart from srcatch ? rename db/local.php
[16:34] blackbird_ I am still wondering, why my file upload does not work properly. I set up the path relatively ("files/uploads/") but it always gives me the error that it couldn't find the path "/files/uploads/" (which is an absolute path)
[16:34] Hammer_ Cool
[16:35] blackbird_ any1 any idea what is wrong here? perms correct (775) on files/ and on files/uploads/ – and cache already cleared...
[16:36] Jyhem no idea
[16:45] Hammer_ mysql -u username -p --default-character-set=latin1 database < backup.sql\
[16:45] Hammer_ did not work also
[16:45] Hammer_ mysql -u username -p --default-character-set=latin1 database < backup.sql
[17:2] Jyhem_laptop I suggest exporting with mysqldump -u username -p -Qqf --skip-extended-insert db > backup.sql
[17:3] Jyhem_laptop then mysql --force --user=username-p db < backup.sql
[17:3] Jyhem_laptop Then collect the lines with issues and look at them
[17:4] Jyhem_laptop with --skip-extended-insert you have an insert per line, so you know what is wrong
[17:4] Jyhem_laptop with --force, you don't die at the first error, so you still get all correct data in the db
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[17:44] Hammer_ Jym can I run this command
[17:44] Hammer_ on phpmyadmin
[17:44] Hammer_ or it has to be on the server ?
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[18:1] Hammer_ Jyhem
[18:1] Hammer_ ?
[18:2] Jyhem_laptop sorry, busy elsewhere.
[18:2] Jyhem_laptop that's command line
[18:3] Jyhem_laptop --default-character-set=latin1 looks like a big step backwards
[18:3] Hammer_ line 4532 duplaicate entry "Created tiki-page' for key"
[18:3] Hammer_ i got like 10 errors
[18:3] Hammer_ 10 lines
[18:5] Jyhem_laptop what's one of the lines?
[18:5] Hammer_ could because I am over wiriting into the current empty databse ?
[18:5] Jyhem_laptop say, line 4532 ?
[18:6] Hammer_ INSERT INTO `tiki_actionlog_conf` (`id`, `action`, `objectType`, `status`) VALUES
[18:6] Hammer_ this is the line
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[18:7] Jyhem_laptop does not look like it "Created tiki-page'
[18:7] Hammer_ could be because I am over writing the current database ?
[18:7] Jyhem_laptop are you sure it's line 4532 of backup.sql ?
[18:8] Hammer_ yea
[18:8] Hammer_ i run 8.3 with the current databse
[18:8] Hammer_ like empty databse
[18:9] Hammer_ u know what i mean
[18:9] Hammer_ then i impiorting this old databse to it
[18:9] Hammer_ ?
[18:9] Hammer_ importing
[18:9] Hammer_ could be the reason ?
[18:10] Jyhem_laptop the old database is in backup.sql and you got this error doing mysql --force --user=username-p db < backup.sql ?
[18:11] Hammer_ yes
[18:11] Hammer_ of course db in my case is tikitest
[18:11] Hammer_ is called tikitest
[18:12] Jyhem_laptop are all the 10 errors about tiki_actionlog_conf ?
[18:13] Hammer_ no
[18:13] Hammer_ i got
[18:13] Jyhem_laptop because I don't think anyone cares about a missing line in tiki_actionlog_conf
[18:13] Hammer_ duplicate entry '1' for key primary
[18:13] Hammer_ duplicate entry '6'
[18:14] Hammer_ duplicate entry '1' for key primary   : there 4 lines of this
[18:14] Jyhem_laptop what is the corresponding line ?
[18:15] Hammer_ INSERT INTO `tiki_integrator_reps` (`repID`, `name`, `path`, `start_page`, `css_file`, `visibility`, `cacheable`, `expiration`, `description`) VALUES
[18:15] Hammer_ weird eh
[18:16] Jyhem_laptop wow, no idea about that line.
[18:16] Jyhem_laptop did you say that you imported over an existing database ?
[18:16] Hammer_ yes
[18:16] Hammer_ the one
[18:16] Hammer_ by default i crreated
[18:16] Jyhem_laptop ohhhh
[18:16] Hammer_ when i indtalled
[18:17] Hammer_ installed
[18:17] Hammer_ 8.3
[18:17] Hammer_ u know ? the on that has only
[18:17] Hammer_ user Admin
[18:17] Hammer_ in users
[18:17] Jyhem_laptop and the previous one is also 8.3 ?
[18:17] Hammer_ lol
[18:17] Hammer_ no
[18:17] Hammer_ 2.2
[18:19] Jyhem_laptop :-(
[18:19] Hammer_ could be the reason ?
[18:19] Jyhem_laptop I thought you had trouble migrating a tiki db from site to site.
[18:20] Hammer_ No man
[18:20] Jyhem_laptop Yes, that could be the reason.
[18:20] Hammer_ upgrade from 2.2 to 8.2
[18:20] Hammer_ 8.3
[18:20] Hammer_ should I go 3.x then 6.x
[18:20] Hammer_ first ?
[18:20] Hammer_ or what ?
[18:21] Hammer_ how do I proceed
[18:22] Jyhem_laptop not sure
[18:22] Jyhem_laptop http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade
[18:23] Hammer_ btw why when i exported sql using dump
[18:23] Hammer_ thefile is almost half the size
[18:23] Hammer_ when u use phpmyadmin
[18:23] Hammer_ ?
[18:24] Jyhem_laptop Anyway, even if direct 2.2 → 8.3 works, you need to import backup.sql into an empty database (really empty, just created, no tables in it), then go to tiki-install.php not create a 8.3 somewhat empty database
[18:25] Jyhem_laptop phpmyadmin probably uses a more complete syntax. No worry.
[18:26] Hammer_ ok i am gonna create one empty database
[18:26] Hammer_ utf8
[18:27] Jyhem_laptop so I suggest you empty the database from phpmyadmin (or recreate it) and then mysql --force --user=username-p db < backup.sql should not show errors
[18:27] Jyhem_laptop utf8, yes
[18:27] Hammer_ what collation order
[18:27] Hammer_ ?
[18:28] Hammer_ utf_general_Ci ?
[18:28] Jyhem_laptop yes, or utf_unicode_ci
[18:30] Hammer_ ok and i gace the user all the permission
[18:30] Hammer_ i gave the user
[18:30] Hammer_ now i am gonna use phpmyadmin databse
[18:30] Hammer_ first
[18:30] Hammer_ ok ?
[18:32] Hammer_ well done :)
[18:32] Hammer_ now I have to re run the insallater
[18:33] Hammer_ i ll rename the db/local first 1 sec
[18:34] Jyhem did you do mysql --force --user=username-p db < backup.sql ?
[18:34] Hammer_ no mysql -u username -p db < backup.sql
[18:34] Jyhem so you start with a tiki 2.2 database on tiki 8.3 source code ?
[18:34] Hammer_ just normal command
[18:35] Hammer_ yes
[18:35] Hammer_ i will have to run the installer
[18:35] Hammer_ i did not run it yet
[18:35] Jyhem what normal command ?
[18:35] Hammer_ mysql -u username -p db < backup.sql
[18:35] Hammer_ i did not use --force
[18:35] Jyhem ok, of there is no error, it is the same
[18:35] Hammer_ no errors
[18:36] Hammer_ now the insllter
[18:36] Hammer_ ready ?
[18:36] Hammer_ LOL ?
[18:36] Jyhem then --force is useless :-)
[18:36] Jyhem yes
[18:36] Hammer_ there is some php erroes at the bottome
[18:36] Hammer_ should i ignore them ?
[18:37] Hammer_ warnings
[18:37] Hammer_ ype: strftime(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. Y
[18:37] Hammer_ i can ignore these
[18:37] Hammer_ i gues
[18:37] Jyhem ignore
[18:37] Jyhem they are for developpers
[18:39] Hammer_ Tiki cannot find a database connection. This is normal for a new installation.
[18:39] Hammer_ i will write the new databse name
[18:39] Jyhem well, you remved local.php
[18:39] Jyhem go ahead
[18:39] Jyhem well, you removed local.php
[18:39] Hammer_ Always force connection to use UTF-8
[18:39] Hammer_ check this ?
[18:39] Hammer_ by default it is
[18:40] Jyhem yes
[18:40] Hammer_ Something is wrong with the database encoding. The schema has UTF-8 as default encoding but some tables in the schema have a different collation, latin1_swedish_ci. Co
[18:40] Hammer_ Converting to UTF-8 may solve this but may also make matters worse. You should investigate what happened or only proceed with backups.
[18:40] Hammer_ i will click convert
[18:41] Jyhem hmmm no
[18:41] Hammer_ ?
[18:41] Jyhem chances are, the encoding really is good
[18:41] Hammer_ so go with the upgrade button ?
[18:41] Jyhem so don't fix unti you verified that there is a problem to fix
[18:42] Jyhem you can always come back to the installer
[18:42] Jyhem yes
[18:42] Hammer_ Upgrade operations executed successfully: 2288 SQL queries.
[18:42] Hammer_ Operations failed: 1 SQL queries. Display details.
[18:42] Hammer_ let me check that one
[18:42] Jyhem neat
[18:42] Jyhem sure
[18:43] Hammer_ 20090206_content_tpl_menu_tiki
[18:43] Hammer_ it is this
[18:43] Hammer_ INSERT INTO `tiki_menu_options` (`menuId`, `type`, `name`, `url`, `position`, `section`, `perm`, `groupname`, `userlevel`) SELECT 42,'o','Content Templates','tiki-
[18:43] Hammer_ admin_content_templates.php',1256,'','tiki_p_edit_content_templates','',0 FROM `tiki_menu_options` WHERE @fgcant = 0
[18:44] Hammer_ Duplicate entry '42-Content Templates-tiki-admin_content_templates.php-1256--tiki' for key 'uniq_menu
[18:44] Hammer_ that s about it
[18:45] Jyhem I'd ignore that. Really
[18:45] Jyhem go ahead
[18:45] Hammer_ configure general settings page now
[18:46] Hammer_ some PHp notices at the bottom , should i ignore ?
[18:46] Jyhem yes, always
[18:46] Hammer_ Logging and Reporting
[18:46] Hammer_ i m gonna check
[18:46] Hammer_ visible to admin only
[18:46] Hammer_ and select report all errors expect notices
[18:47] Hammer_ cool ?
[18:47] Jyhem yes, otherwise other people wonder about notices and warnnings
[18:47] Jyhem "visible to admin only" is important. he rest is as uyou like
[18:47] Hammer_ cool
[18:47] Hammer_ done
[18:47] Hammer_ i got the first page
[18:47] Hammer_ :)
[18:48] Hammer_ what s the admin password though ?
[18:48] Hammer_ i can use any user from previous databse
[18:48] Hammer_ I am in
[18:49] Jyhem no encoding issues ?
[18:49] Hammer_ yes i have
[18:49] Hammer_ only the first page
[18:50] Hammer_ but could be plugin
[18:50] Hammer_ i used DIV
[18:50] Hammer_ BOX
[18:50] Hammer_ let me check the plugin
[18:50] Jyhem I meant character encoding
[18:50] Jyhem like accented characters
[18:50] Hammer_ no
[18:50] Hammer_ :)
[18:50] Hammer_ it looks good
[18:51] Hammer_ very good actually
[18:51] Jyhem wow, nice ! I never participated in a 2.2 → 8.3 direct upgrade :-)
[18:51] Hammer_ ummm
[18:51] Hammer_ got something weird
[18:51] Hammer_ wait
[18:52] Hammer_ lol
[18:52] Jyhem You might still have a look at http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade :-)
[18:53] Hammer_ Logging and Reporting
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[18:53] Hammer_ i cannot paste it
[18:53] Hammer_ wth
[18:53] Hammer_ lol
[18:57] Hammer_ ummmm
[18:57] Hammer_ the ' is giving an encoding problem
[18:57] Hammer_ and - too
[18:58] Hammer_ othe rthan that it looks great
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[19:5] Hammer_ It shows on my first page some icons for plugin
[19:5] Hammer_ it is asking me to edit them when i click on it
[19:7] Hammer_ Search index could not be updated. The site is misconfigured. Contact an administrator.
[19:7] Hammer_ Utf8 compatible lower case filter needs mbstring extension to be enabled.
[19:7] Hammer_ how do i fix this ?
[19:15] ricks99 Q: when using the carousel plugin.. how do i make each slide clickable? im using a specific file gallery. tried coding link in each item desc. no go :(
[19:18] Hammer_ i wish i know
[19:18] Hammer_ :)
[19:20] ricks99 checked the code... dont see how to assign links from file gallery descriptions?
[19:26] Hammer_ Ricks
[19:26] Hammer_ how do i fix the plugins ?
[19:26] Hammer_ i checked already
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[19:26] Hammer_ they are enabled
[19:27] ricks99 sorry... what's the issue with your plugins?
[19:28] Hammer_ when i upgraded
[19:28] Hammer_ 2.2 to 8.2
[19:28] Hammer_ no proble expect
[19:28] Hammer_ fist page
[19:29] Hammer_ with some plugins
[19:29] Hammer_ like i can see the icon it says Edit
[19:29] Hammer_ i see my line as characters
[19:29] ricks99 look at the relnotes, i recall this... in some instances you'll need to re-approve all your plugings. there was a script that you could run before the upgrade in order to fix the issue
[19:29] Hammer_ b234dfr4565666666&&34fgtght
[19:30] ricks99 did u look at the release notes?
[19:30] Hammer_ not at everything
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[19:30] Hammer_ because i went direclty from 2.2 to 8.3
[19:31] Hammer_ plus i have only one problem with  this --> '
[19:31] Hammer_ the encoding
[19:32] Hammer_ of it
[19:32] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03chealer * r40268 10/trunk/tiki-admin_trackers.php: [REF] Admin Trackers: Remove apparently unused uses_tabs and urlquery definitions
[19:32] ricks99 did you check the encoding specified in your db.local file? does it match the encoding of your dump file?
[19:33] Hammer_ no
[19:34] Hammer_ going now to see
[19:34] Hammer_ the db.local
[19:34] Hammer_ under db/ ?
[19:35] ricks99 Hammer_: you reallyou should review all the relnotes 2.x -> 8.x. For example, the encoding issue is fully documented: http://tiki.org/ReleaseNotes5.1#Database_Encoding
[19:35] Hammer_ yea but i went directly to 8.3..............does that mean i have to go lower first ?
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[19:38] ricks99 no. but you need to review all the notes between to be aware of all the changes.
[19:38] ricks99 2.x -> 8.x is a *BIG* jump
[19:38] Hammer_ u asked me to test it out :)
[19:38] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r40270 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): [ENH] add preference to display related articles at the bottom of a article page
[19:39] ricks99 y. it works (i've dont it 1.9.x -> 8.x) but there are many things you need to know first
[19:39] Hammer_ if i tell u the error it is giving me
[19:39] Hammer_ u might know ?
[19:40] ricks99 i will try
[19:40] Hammer_ when i click edit plugin
[19:40] Hammer_ then sumbit
[19:40] Hammer_ even though if i dont want to edit it
[19:41] Hammer_ i get this error :
[19:41] Hammer_ Search index could not be updated. The site is misconfigured. Contact an administrator.
[19:41] Hammer_ Utf8 compatible lower case filter needs mbstring extension to be enabled.
[19:41] ricks99 is the mbstring extension enabled on your site?
[19:41] Hammer_ i dunno
[19:41] Hammer_ is that plugin ?
[19:42] ricks99 no. it is an apache extension
[19:42] Hammer_ ah
[19:42] ricks99 if you're going to use the new search index instead of old mysql, there's a bunch of requirements.
[19:42] ricks99 need to review the search index feature doc if you're going to use it
[19:43] Hammer_ how is this related to DIV SPLIT BOX plugins
[19:43] Hammer_ ?
[19:43] ricks99 again, i highly recommend that you review the changes. for example: http://doc.tiki.org/Search+Index
[19:44] ricks99 any time you change a page's content, it affects the search
[19:46] Hammer_ yea but my error is not related
[19:46] Hammer_ to what u r saying
[19:46] Hammer_ maybe i am wring
[19:46] ricks99 sorry, but i don't understand
[19:46] Hammer_ wrong
[19:47] Hammer_ that error i get only
[19:47] Hammer_ when i try to edit
[19:47] Hammer_ my plugin
[19:47] ricks99 if you are editing a plugin, you are changing the page. that kicks off the search index
[19:47] ricks99 issue 1: make sure your encoding is correct
[19:47] ricks99 issue 2: confirm that your server supports the search index
[19:47] ricks99 requirements
[19:48] Hammer_ ok
[19:48] ricks99 I'd start with those 2, if i were u
[19:48] Hammer_ i just did a search
[19:48] Hammer_ did not work
[19:48] Hammer_ ok iw ill
[19:48] Hammer_ i will
[19:49] ricks99 and, if you're not going to use the 8.x features, you might consider using Tiki 6 LTS instead
[19:49] Hammer_ Yea
[19:49] Hammer_ i am gonna go 3.8 then 6 LTS
[19:50] Hammer_ then 8.3
[19:50] Hammer_ maybe that would fix my
[19:50] Hammer_ encoding problem
[19:52] ricks99 bbl
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[20:15] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03chealer * r40272 10/trunk/ (16 files in 9 dirs):
[20:15] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [ENH] Trackers: Merge tiki-list_trackers and tiki-admin_trackers, using the generalized tiki-admin_trackers. The new interface is tiki-list_trackers.
[20:15] CIA-36 tikiwiki: Reference: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/25367
[20:15] CIA-36 tikiwiki: In list_trackers, creation and last modification dates do not show the time anymore (could be useful, but too noisy in current presentation)
[20:15] CIA-36 tikiwiki: The new interface is generally called "Trackers", sometimes "List Trackers"
[20:21] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03chealer * r40273 10/trunk/templates/tracker_actions.tpl: Fix svn:keywords (Id)
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[20:28] WSD !help
[20:28] WSD LoL
[20:34] WSD Sorry if this was asked before, I thougt I found how to resolve,but the resolution didn't fix the issue.  Installed v8.1 and tried to install profile "Company_Intranet_8x" but received "An error occured during the profile validation. This profile cannot be applied. Message: Invalid URI supplied.".  Chat post recommended to upgrade to v8.2 and I noticed v8.3 is out so I bypassed v8.2 and went
[20:34] WSD straight to v8.3.  Still receiving the error after upgrade.  Running tikiwiki on Windows 2008 with IIS 7.
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[20:55] CosmeFC Hi!
[20:56] CosmeFC I am having problens with LDAP, openldap, and groups.
[20:56] CosmeFC Can anyone help me?
[20:56] CosmeFC There are some exemples?
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[22:58] CosmeFC !help
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