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[4:0] Ajith Hello friends, I'm trying to upgrade from Tiki4.1 to Tiki6.6 LTS. I seem to have some issues with the upgrade. First of all, I was trying to copy my existing mysql database to a new one and apply the upgrade on the new one (so that my existing site is not affected by this). Is there anything wrong with this idea?
[4:22] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Issues with upgrading Tiki4.1 to Tiki6.6 LTS  - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=43665
[4:42] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r40423 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-search_wiki_page.php: Tidy up info a little for the PluginModule popup edit form. Thanks Stephane
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[9:8] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40425 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Item.php:
[9:8] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [FIX] Even if user/group tracker feature is off, there could be still use for
[9:8] CIA-36 tikiwiki: allowing special perms through ownership. Also, perms checking is separate from
[9:8] CIA-36 tikiwiki: simply getting the owner, so this function should just get the owner. Not
[9:8] CIA-36 tikiwiki: backporting just in case I am missing something but it looks right to me.
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[10:24] blackbird_ hi folks, how can I use values from a tracker in another tracker (e.g. tracker A has IDs and I want to have a dropdown field in tracker B which includes the IDs of A)?
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[10:48] Jyhem_laptop blackbird_:  http://doc.tiki.org/Items+List+and+Item+Link+Tracker+Fields
[10:49] Jyhem_laptop Look up Item link
[10:49] blackbird_ tx!
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[12:2] blackbird_ polom
[12:2] blackbird_ is there a way to temporarily log in as another user so that one can check, e.g. if all perms are set correctly?
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[12:22] Jyhem Yes, the login module allows that for admins. see also the groups_emulation module
[12:33] Jyhem ^^ blackbird_
[12:43] blackbird_ thx :>
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[13:29] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jyhem * r40426 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-months_links.php: less abstract and more informative wording
[13:52] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jyhem * r40427 10/trunk/lang/ (49 files in 49 dirs): Partially fix translations broken after tidying (no time for fixing all of them)
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[14:12] ricks99 polom y'all
[14:12] jonnyb hi ricks99
[14:13] ricks99 hiya jonnyb
[14:13] jonnyb had a play with trunk recently? structure edit and menu admin had a make-over
[14:14] ricks99 y. been playing with it some... very nice job
[14:14] jonnyb guess the books will need updating :P
[14:15] ricks99 lol. you volunteering? :-)
[14:15] ricks99 working on updates for tiki9LTS timeframe (oct?)
[14:15] ricks99 and a new one :)
[14:15] jonnyb super!
[14:16] jonnyb yes 9 should go LTS in october, 9.0 release in May (that's the plan)
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[14:48] Jyhem polom ricks99, polom jonnyb
[14:49] jonnyb hi Jyhem
[14:49] jonnyb off out for a bike ride (been sunny for about a week here and i haven't been out in daylight!)
[14:49] jonnyb bbl
[14:51] Jyhem Are item lists Are Items lists broken in trunk ?
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[15:1] Hammer Morning
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[15:38] Jyhem http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=6 shows: Tracker Field Factory Error: Pref "trackerfield_currency" required for field type "Tracker_Field_Currency"
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[15:42] plugz hi everyone, is any developer around?
[15:48] ricks99 what's your question?
[15:54] plugz I would like to hide the "| Logout" from the user taskbar
[15:54] plugz but i can't find where it is coded
[15:55] ricks99 do you mean the login module?
[15:56] ricks99 you can delete modules from the admin: modules page
[15:58] plugz not the module
[15:58] plugz just the "Logout" link
[15:59] plugz because (as I've mentioned on the mailing list)
[15:59] plugz i've managed to get the authentication via "Web Server" working
[15:59] plugz but when users click the "Logout" button nothing happens, it doesn't serve any purpose in this scenario
[16:0] ricks99 you can edit the module's template
[16:0] ricks99 and manually remove the link
[16:1] ricks99 or simply hide the entire module with some css: {display:none} when logged in
[16:2] ricks99 or remove the module completely. and use a simple menu link to tiki-login.php
[16:3] ricks99 lots of ways
[16:7] plugz cool
[16:7] plugz if i hide the entire module, will the username be visible then?
[16:7] ricks99 no
[16:8] plugz ok, i'll try the first way then
[16:8] plugz where can i find the modules template?
[16:8] plugz in the directory?
[16:8] ricks99 all templates are in the templates directory.
[16:9] ricks99 you can use the "show tpl" option to find specific templates' usage
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[16:9] Hammer Ricks99 HIII :)
[16:9] ricks99 see docs for details: http://doc.tiki.org/Look+and+Feel+Admin
[16:10] ricks99 hi Hammer
[16:10] Hammer I am using the Theme: Tikinewt
[16:10] Hammer but cannot get to manage the font
[16:10] Hammer lol
[16:10] Hammer i am editing that .css manaually
[16:10] Hammer but the toc is so small
[16:10] Hammer maketoc font
[16:10] Hammer where can i change that in .css
[16:10] Hammer ?
[16:11] ricks99 Hammer: better to use your own custom css than to edit the default css -- makes upgrades much harder
[16:11] ricks99 if you use something like firebug (for ff) or dev tools (for IE) you can determine which css style to edit
[16:12] ricks99 In tiki 8.x+ there's also the CSS assistant you can use
[16:12] ricks99 Hammer: you might find my primer userful: http://twessentials.tikiforsmarties.com/Customizing+Tiki+Themes
[16:12] plugz thanks alot ricks99, this is useful info
[16:13] ricks99 plugz: if you're new to Tiki, be sure to try my beginner's guide: http://tikiforsmarties.com <shameless plug>
[16:13] Hammer i will look into that
[16:13] Hammer i was wondering what maketoc use :) ?
[16:15] ricks99 Hammer: IIRC, it uses #toc. but again, you can easily determine by using a browser plugin or Tiki's CSS assitant
[16:15] Hammer sure
[16:15] Hammer I will do that
[16:15] Hammer Thank you Rick
[16:15] ricks99 you are welcome
[16:16] plugz i'm looking in the templates dir at the tiki-login.tpl
[16:17] plugz seems thats it :)
[16:18] ricks99 plugz: you might find this useful: http://twessentials.tikiforsmarties.com/Modifying+Templates explains how to find the right template
[16:19] plugz another thing.. unrelated to this
[16:19] plugz if we want to make documents (for documentation purposes) out of tiki pages
[16:19] plugz is there a reasonably easy way to do it?
[16:20] plugz some friends showed me some features in xwiki for this, but i've never been able to find a way in tiki
[16:20] ricks99 you can use wiki pages
[16:20] plugz i remember once reading a forum post where someone said that should be in the browser, to generate for an example pdf's out of wiki pages?
[16:22] ricks99 y. can use browser-based plugins to create PDFs
[16:23] ricks99 are you using structures?
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[16:24] plugz no
[16:25] plugz could you describe in a few words?
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[16:25] RobertPlummer polom all
[16:27] ricks99 plugz: here's my primer on structures: http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/Using+Structures
[16:28] ricks99 brb
[16:30] plugz thats a nice summary of structures, i'll make a note of that
[16:35] plugz i've enabled the "Smarty Template usage indicator" but i can't seem to find which tpl holds the Logout link (by looking at the source of the generated page)
[16:39] Jyhem polom RobertPlummer
[16:39] RobertPlummer polom Jyhem
[16:42] * Jyhem wonders if Itemlists work on trunk
[16:42] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r40428 10/trunk/lib/headerlib.php: jsmin: remove debugger command (served it's purpose)
[16:43] ricks99 plugz: think it is in the login module template
[16:43] ricks99 hi Jyhem & RobertPlummer
[16:43] RobertPlummer Hey ricks99
[16:44] RobertPlummer Pretty cold today here in the states, compared to the weather last week, aye ricks99?
[16:44] plugz found it in styles/strasa/tiki-site_header_login.tpl with the help of grep :)
[16:45] ricks99 ah... note that that style uses a custom template apparently
[16:45] ricks99 RobertPlummer: yeah, got down to the 30sF last nite... almost a frost warning.
[16:45] * ricks99 hopes the garden seedlings survived
[16:45] Hammer Rick
[16:46] Hammer I am using
[16:46] Jyhem plugz: found in templates/modules/mod-login_box.tpl with grep. If strasa is not your theme, styles/strasa/tiki-site_header_login.tpl is useless to you
[16:46] Hammer the assisantant
[16:46] Hammer but for some reason it wont change anything
[16:46] Hammer let's say i click on home
[16:46] Hammer i get the selector
[16:46] Hammer but nothing happen
[16:46] plugz yah, got it
[16:46] ricks99 did you save the customizations to the custom css field?
[16:47] plugz thanks for the hints guys
[16:47] plugz cheers
[16:47] Hammer yes
[16:47] Jyhem plugz: if you edit templates, remember to flush all caches or it will probably seem to not do anything
[16:47] ricks99 did yo clear the tiki cache
[16:47] Hammer umm no
[16:47] Hammer wait
[16:47] Hammer :)
[16:47] Jyhem well, let's hope he figures it out :-)
[16:51] RobertPlummer I now have an easy way of building custom interfaces for trackers!
[16:51] RobertPlummer Woohoo!
[16:54] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40429 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Added a custom way of creating interfaces for editing trackers and used it in forwardlink protocol
[16:55] Jyhem_laptop http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=6 displays: Tracker Field Factory Error: Pref "trackerfield_currency" required for field type "Tracker_Field_Currency"
[16:56] RobertPlummer Jyhem_laptop: Have you cleared cache?
[16:57] RobertPlummer Jyhem_laptop: What currency is it?
[16:59] RobertPlummer jonnyb: You around?
[16:59] jonnyb here :)
[17:0] jonnyb how's things?
[17:0] Jyhem_laptop It's not just trackerId=6 , I saw it with 5,4,...
[17:0] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Remember in tracker query how you can do this:
[17:0] RobertPlummer Tracker_Query::tracker('Wiki Attributes')
[17:0] RobertPlummer ->byName()
[17:0] RobertPlummer ->itemId((int)$_REQUEST['itemId'])
[17:0] RobertPlummer ->query();
[17:1] RobertPlummer That returns a simple array like this tracker(items(fields()))
[17:1] RobertPlummer now you can do this:
[17:1] RobertPlummer Tracker_Query::tracker('Wiki Attributes')
[17:1] RobertPlummer ->byName()
[17:1] RobertPlummer ->itemId((int)$_REQUEST['itemId'])
[17:2] RobertPlummer ->queryInputs();
[17:2] RobertPlummer And it returns the inputs for a given item, so that they can be used in a custom interface.
[17:2] jonnyb no sorry, not used them really
[17:2] RobertPlummer So say you want a table representation of a tracker, like a spreadsheet view...
[17:3] RobertPlummer Tracker_Query::tracker('Wiki Attributes')
[17:3] RobertPlummer ->byName()
[17:3] RobertPlummer ->queryInputs();
[17:3] RobertPlummer And it'll give you ALL of the items in the tracker (you can use paging too, it is built in).
[17:4] RobertPlummer This provides the fully rendered input that you get when you edit trackers on tiki-view_tracker_item.php, just in an abastract form that can be used anywhere.
[17:4] RobertPlummer Anyway, i thought I'd share, been working about a week on it, and finally cracked it.
[17:5] jonnyb i'll get into it one day... promise! :)
[17:5] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Before I started working on Invoice, there wasen't anything like this, and I got to the point where I couldn't go any further without it, so what does this give us?  The ability to create tiki apps very easily.
[17:7] jonnyb shame it wasn't around 3 months ago for this big shopping site - i'm using unified search stuff (which does break sometimes)
[17:10] RobertPlummer Yea, I think speed may be a factory there, but it won't get faster till we migrate to it in other parts of tiki.
[17:10] RobertPlummer Lets get some of that data and play with it!
[17:10] Jyhem RobertPlummer: I think the right place for this info would be a page in dev.tiki.org (with a simple working example)
[17:11] jonnyb uni-search is pretty quick - a couple of seconds usually to find a few pages out of 12,000 items
[17:11] jonnyb unless you need to search by date, then it really falls down :(
[17:12] RobertPlummer I can understand trackers, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't have to be so complex.  Ever time i open a tracker page its 500-1000 lines long of permissions checks, reopening of an already queried tracker.  I wrote tracker query because of first wanting to just get info from a tracker, but now, it is an api for apps.
[17:13] RobertPlummer Any feature (not whole app, but feature mind you) that needs more than 5k+ lines of code should seriously be rethought out.
[17:14] RobertPlummer And tracker I think uses probably 10k+ (I've not counted just estimating).
[17:14] Hammer when using firebug
[17:14] Hammer how can I save
[17:14] Hammer ouppps ignore
[17:14] Hammer lol
[17:14] Hammer firebug is just a way to show me where to change in the css
[17:14] Hammer file
[17:14] RobertPlummer Hammer: ignore what?
[17:14] Hammer i thought i would make the changes
[17:15] RobertPlummer css?
[17:15] RobertPlummer There is a check by the css setting, set it to un-tick.
[17:15] ricks99 no. firebug can be used to find which css to change
[17:15] Hammer yes
[17:15] Hammer but it does change them
[17:15] Hammer is there as way to connect it
[17:16] Hammer to FTP
[17:16] Hammer to upload right away
[17:16] Hammer ?
[17:18] ricks99 Hammer: if you are chaning the css styles, i suggest using the custom css area on the Look & feel page
[17:18] Hammer i would prefer
[17:18] Hammer changing them right away
[17:19] Hammer on the .css file
[17:19] Hammer that's what i am doing now
[17:19] Hammer not a majot cvhange though
[17:19] Hammer i am doing just fonts
[17:19] ricks99 changing the css file makes upgrades much more difficult
[17:20] Hammer umm
[17:21] Hammer so best way ?
[17:21] ricks99 use the admin look & feel page
[17:23] Hammer but the changes i wanna make mostlt likley in lie.css
[17:23] Hammer lite.css
[17:23] Hammer and my current theme tikinewt
[17:24] Hammer tikinewt import from lite.css
[17:24] ricks99 if you put the changes in the admin look & feel page, they will cascade on top. see docs for details
[17:27] Hammer let's say i wanna change this in lite.css html>body { font-size: 0.75em;}
[17:27] Hammer tp 8.85em
[17:27] Hammer i just add this under custom css
[17:27] Hammer ?
[17:28] ricks99 y.
[17:28] ricks99 be sure to clear cache
[17:29] Hammer how the custom css would know i am changing this in lite.css ?
[17:29] Hammer maybe i am lost
[17:29] ricks99 css styles "cascade"
[17:29] ricks99 the last entry wins
[17:30] ricks99 if you are new to CSS, you might want to review: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=w3c.org%20css&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FStyle%2FCSS%2FOverview.en.html&ei=TtxxT5DSH9Lptgf1jp3HDw&usg=AFQjCNG0KtTkKX-ScjZZz-oSUtvtet6PAw&cad=rja
[17:30] ricks99 oops. bad link. sorry: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Overview.en.html
[17:30] Hammer Perfect
[17:30] Hammer perfect
[17:30] Hammer :)
[17:31] Hammer one more question
[17:31] Hammer when i apply the code
[17:31] Hammer should i remove it from custom css
[17:31] Hammer because it is already set
[17:31] Hammer or leave
[17:31] Hammer ?
[17:32] ricks99 sorry, don't understand your question
[17:32] Hammer means i continue writing
[17:32] Hammer u know i just added html>body { font-size: 0.75em;}
[17:32] Hammer and i hit apply
[17:32] Hammer now i wanna add something else
[17:32] Hammer should i remove html>body { font-size: 0.75em;} from the code
[17:32] Hammer ?
[17:32] Hammer in custom css box
[17:32] Hammer ?
[17:33] ricks99 yes, you can edit/update the custom css, as needed
[17:36] Hammer when i change it
[17:36] Hammer it works on firefox
[17:36] Hammer not IE
[17:36] Hammer :)
[17:36] Hammer i cleared the cache
[17:37] ricks99 did you clear the browser's cache, too?
[17:38] Hammer yes
[17:39] ricks99 not sure. try closing the browser and re-opening
[17:40] Hammer no luck
[17:40] Hammer weird
[17:47] Hammer theme generator
[17:47] Hammer should i enable it ?
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[18:17] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r40430 10/trunk/styles/BiDi/BiDi.css: [FIX]Adding rtl styling for module share
[18:27] RobertPlummer Jyhem, please see: http://dev.tiki.org/Tracker+Query
[18:28] RobertPlummer Just updated per your suggestion.
[18:32] Jyhem RobertPlummer: thanks!
[18:35] Jyhem You may have noticed that I put the info you gave me friday here: http://doc.tiki.org/Reports
[18:36] Jyhem Importing tracker fields is hard to get right :-(
[18:37] Jyhem There is no feedback at all, and strange things happen when two fields share the same position (which can't be edited anywhere)
[18:41] * Jyhem going out for a bit
[18:43] RobertPlummer Jyhem importing trackers?
[18:44] RobertPlummer Yea it is a very difficult thing to get right.
[18:44] RobertPlummer With reports though is it hard?
[19:11] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40431 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribegroups.php: [FIX] Groups not appearing when entered with trailing or leading spaces
[19:14] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40432 10/branches/8.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribegroups.php: [bp/r40431][FIX] Groups not appearing when entered with trailing or leading spaces
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[19:58] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03ohertel * r40433 10/trunk/lib/wiki/wikilib.php: [fix] unparsed variable caused error when loading list of wiki page attachments
[20:5] nkoth|nelson hi, anyone knows if it's possible to have 2 different set of wysiwyg toolbars, basica/advanced?
[20:12] jonnyb hi nkoth|nelson - maybe, having a server-mare but maybe able to help later
[20:13] nkoth|nelson jonnyb: ,maybe meaning need some work?
[20:42] jonnyb bbl
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[20:50] arildb A question: I have made a copy of a Tiki installation created using english. Now I would like to change the Tiki langiage into norwegian for the copy. How do I do that?
[21:3] changi arildb: in admin panel i18n ?
[21:4] changi arildb: just change "Default language"
[21:4] arildb changi: I set that to norwegian, but there's no change
[21:5] changi arildb: clearcache
[21:9] arildb changi: tried to clear the cache (made sure), but same result. btw. using 8.3
[21:11] changi arildb: sometime the user pref get over the site language
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[21:24] arildb changi: The way I initially tried to switch the language was by running the installer, then selecting norwegian...and stepping through the installation. Now the language seems locked into english
[21:25] arildb The initial login box, does use norwegian, but after login...only english
[21:27] changi arildb: it's typically the language pref issue i get 1 year ago, it take the user pref language
[21:27] arildb changi: How can I fix it?
[21:29] changi arildb: just a sec, i think it's in the database
[21:33] changi arildb: is the pref change_language set to y ?
[21:35] arildb changi: change_language ...in the database : user_preferences?
[21:35] changi tiki_preferences
[21:37] arildb changi: I will check. Having connection problems with the server, and must restart first....
[21:45] changi you can debug in lib/setup/language.php
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[21:57] arildb changi: I set change_language=y (was: n). However, still no change...I did clear the cache.
[21:59] arildb changi: Found the error. My user pref was set to english
[21:59] changi arildb: that's what i was talking about
[21:59] arildb changi: Thanks for your help
[22:0] changi arildb: your welcome
[22:0] changi s/your/you're/
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[22:11] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40434 10/branches/8.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribegroups.php: [ROLLBACK]r40432: this is not a good fix -problem needs to be solved at the root, group names should not have leading or training spaces to begin with on creation
[22:12] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40435 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribegroups.php: [ROLLBACK]r40431: this is not a good fix -problem needs to be solved at the root, group names should not have leading or training spaces to begin with on creation
[22:14] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r40436 10/trunk/lib/test/bootstrap.php: add lib/tikiaccesslib.php to tests bootstrap file
[22:16] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r40437 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter.php: replace self with $this to avoid warning message (Search_Formatter::format() is only called as object method anyway)
[22:17] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r40438 10/trunk/lib/ (11 files in 5 dirs): continuing the refactor of daily reports
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[22:23] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r40439 10/trunk/lang/ (49 files in 49 dirs): update language files with get_strings.php
[22:24] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r40440 10/trunk/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translations
[22:39] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40441 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: [FIX] Agressive trimming to avoid problems with leading and trailing spaces in input
[22:43] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40442 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: [FIX] Agressive trimming to avoid problems with leading and trailing spaces in input (part 2)
[22:45] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40443 10/branches/8.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: [bp/r40441/r40442][FIX] Agressive trimming to avoid problems with leading and trailing spaces in input (part 2)
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[23:31] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40444 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Query.php: [ENH] Added a way to set input defaults for queryInputs
[23:32] RobertPlummer polom fabricius
[23:32] fabricius polom Robert
[23:32] fabricius didn't work out yesterday
[23:32] fabricius somehow
[23:34] fabricius not yet anybody else thinking about a meeting
[23:34] fabricius you wanna chat?
[23:40] fabricius RobertPlummer: di you code the {FONT()} plugin?
[23:40] fabricius rm di did