weevis: how do i force them to ALWAYS fill out said information in tracker? Trebly: joined #tikiwiki luciash: weevis: set it as required field rodrigoprimo: joined #tikiwiki DarkCalf: joined #tikiwiki goj_killedByISP: joined #tikiwiki Lawiz: joined #tikiwiki Dr{Wh0}: tiki-edit_templates.php shows as admin I dont have permissions. I have looked around and it seems I need feature_view_tpl but its not clear how I can add this other than maybe through mysql directly.
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Q. v9 svn installed but I cant seem to make "Forums" visible to anon users? Lots Lots of checkboxes and options but as best I can tell public should be able to see it. Suggestions on what I should check?
I take that back. I can get to it but its not in the Anon menu I think I need to create one maybe? fidel: q: is there some kind of default code-synthax highlihjtning support in v8.3?
or would i need some kind of extension or similar?
background: i was able in my mediawiki setup before to define a code-snippet i.e. as bash or c code - and it was automaticly using defined colors - depending on the code-type
based on geshi iirc
oh - geshi was used earlier in tiki as well - now: CodeMirror - is that right so far?
wondering as the supported languages in codemirror seem to miss some really relevant languages
to nail it down: according to the tiki docsite geshi is no longer supported
would you recommend to NOT use geshi at all - as even if it might still work right now - it could break later
?
is codemirror supposed to colorize my code? i tested the example from here - http://doc.tiki.org/PluginCode?find=highlightning&boolean=on&boolean_last=y&search=Search&exact_match=#Codemirror_-_Supported_Languages - but the php snippet seems to be black only
anyone regarding code-highlightning? Jenser: hi there
once again i have a serious attachment problem
logged in as user i can attach files to a wiki page without any problems
choose file, write comment, attach -> done
my buddy (same user group -> same rights) is not permitted because of unknown reason
buttons are there as well
workflow is the same
choose file - write comment, attach -> nothing
tested with 2 browsers
same behaviour fidel: no error output? xavi: joined #tikiwiki
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Jenser: about highlighting, you are right: codemirror replaces geshi in Tiki 8+
even if geshi supports many more languages and some features which are missing in codemirror
but some devs killed geshi support in tiki
because geshi is gpl, and tiki is lgpl, and therefore, it required some extra package to be downloaded server side, etc.
while codemirror is bundled within Tiki, because its license is compatibl4
however, I also miss Geshi support in Tiki, and I presume we'll have to rewrite all usage of code plugins with color from sites using tiki6, when we upgrade to Tiki9 :-/
oups, s/Jenser/fidel
Jenser, about your attachment issue, no idea. Can you reproduce in demo.tiki.org/8x? and in demo.tiki.org/9x/ ?
fidel: see my comments above about your questions regarding highlighting fidel: yeah just reading ;)
xavi: and is codemirror supposed to work in 8.3? including colors? xavi: fidel: doc.t.o is not highlighting code because codemirror is disabled in doc.t.o (doc.t.o using 8x): it will hopefully be enabled once doc.t.o is upgraded to 9x
yes
fidel: you need to enable it
in some admin panel
features, maybe fidel: mh - cant find it there - even used the search ...but gonna re-start my searc hthen
right now i can paste code - it is displayed - but not colorized
lines are missing as well xavi: fidel: checking fidel: xavi: doc.t.o means what? xavi: fidel: doc.t.o = http://doc.tiki.org fidel: ok - helped understanding your answer better ;) xavi: the pref is at "Admin home > Text area ("Editing and plugins") > General Settings > Syntax Highlighter (CodeMirror)"
in 8x
and I've just enabled it in doc.t.o
let's see if this helps displaying the documentation code bits better arildb: joined #tikiwiki fidel: xavi: funny - i dont see any option 'Synthax Highlighter' inside Editing and Plugins -> Tab: General Settings xavi: he he, fidel, maybe you have to enable the advanced settings, etc fidel: are you using basic vs advanced vs experimental preference filter? xavi: see at the top of the admin panels, some checkboxes fidel: yes - i know that switch
i do have 'basic & advanced' configured there
but still - the General settings tab does not even list the word 'codemirror' nor 'high'
using search function in firefox to make sure i dont overlook something xavi: Syntax Highlighter (CodeMirror) fidel: well - as mentioned above 'search inside the page does not even find 'high' xavi: fidel: version?
tiki version? fidel: 8.3 xavi: and theme style? fidel: a non-default theme
good idea
lemme check that xavi: try with a default theme
you might have a defective tpl somewhere
in your non-default theme style fidel: no change xavi: try in demo.tiki.org/8x/ please
user and pass are shown at http://demo.tiki.org fidel: i can see the point in the 8.x demo yes
is that a default 8.3 function or do i need a plugin? xavi: default fidel: i dont get the problem xavi: fidel: clerar tiki caches, just in case
luciash or anyone good at css: how can we fix the css issues with codemirror in doc.t.o? See http://doc.tiki.org/PluginCode fidel: sidenote: the navigation options in 8.3 - are at least for me as starter a major issue redflo: joined #tikiwiki xavi: like: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginCode#Usage , sometimes the page displays with the code area partially hidden and with vertical scrollbars
I wish there was a way to display the whole thing without vertical scroll bars (only horizontal where needed) Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: HowTo "Impressum"? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=43796 xavi: bbl fidel: thanks so far xavi - going to try to get a solution for my problem xavi: fidel, when you are done, consider improving the documentation:
http://doc.tiki.org/Syntax+Highlighter
I just gave it a push a while ago, but for sure it can be improved -: xavi back to urgent work aside of tiki Jenser: ^^
attachment problem solved: file size was the source of all evil supergreg: joined #tikiwiki xavi: Jenser: nice! (glad you found it)
Jenser: do you know how to tweak that param in php or mysql? arildb_: joined #tikiwiki fidel: xavi: issue was pretty simple - it wasnt in the advanced view - but in the experimental view xavi: ok :-)
can you update the docs, please? fidel: personaly the main issue i do have with the current 8.3 gui is that it offers way to much methods to navigate
kinda overblown - at least for me
lets see if my account allows that xavi: yes, it does :-)
and if not, don't worry, we'll fix it so that anyone can fix almost all pages fidel: regarding codemirror in 8.3
its not really fully working - at least in my tests
i ended up once with a non-ending js animation blocking almost the entire page
and the php-code from the example was only partly colored
done - added _experimental" regarding having to tick that option to see it arildb: joined #tikiwiki ricks99: joined #tikiwiki
polom y'all fidel: someone needs to explain me that daily 'polom' output inhere ;) ricks99: fidel: check out my Tiki glossary:
http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/Glossary
:) fidel: hehe ok ;)
thanks ricks99: anyone know status of 6.7LTS? OK to make public annoucement? arildb_: joined #tikiwiki Jenser: can s/o tell me where to find the config file according to this:
"This is defined by the %ATTACHFILESIZELIMIT% variable of the TWikiPreferences, currently set "
i'm quite blind to this right at the moment ricks99: believe it is in your php.ini upload_max_filesize
see docs for details: doc.tiki.org/Upload+file+size Jenser: gonna have a look. thanks -: ricks99 wishes it were easier to find things in the tiki docs :( ricks99: Q: I have a custom plugin for a site. Where can I place it (not in ../lib/wiki-plugins/.. )so that I don't have to move it for subsequent site upgrades? arildb: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummer: joined #tikiwiki
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polom luciash ricks99: polom RobertPlummer: ricks99: I'm trying to pick other developers minds today, I have a scenario and I'd like to run it by you.
ricks99 (and all): This issue is that I need to find the author of a phrase within an article.
ricks99: I've created a way to parse through a document to find the words, and that is an important part of this, but I'm wondering if it is all even possible. Before we give up on this, we need to consider the steps needed... -: ricks99 thought we had a way to review wiki page edits, by author? RobertPlummer: ricks99: That is a readable way of doing that, and that exists (as far as I know) for humans.
And I believe all that does is count the amount of originality offered from any particular user, but it doesn't actually track exactly what the users offered in their revisions.
In other words, it just counts how many words I wrote, no?
And this needs to be a programmatic way of obtaining who wrote what, not a human readable. ricks99: actually, i thought that it shows the actual edit sessions, by user. RobertPlummer: ricks99: All together at the same time? ricks99: y, each user in a different highlight color (iirc)
think xavi was working on it giuk: joined #tikiwiki ricks99: give me a sec to look for it... benoitg: joined #tikiwiki xavi: back
hi RobertPlummer and ricks99 RobertPlummer: xavi: polom xavi: ricks99: and RobertPlummer: http://doc.tiki.org/Contributions+by+Author
it was not me who added it, but cdrwhite (Jörn) and carsten
afaik
it was working in Tiki6, that's all I know ricks99: tx. xavi RobertPlummer: xavi: I'm looking at it, but it doesn't seem to work.
xavi, ricks99: I look at my mixed revisions, and I don't see any updated past the first 2, even though I've made 4 revision changed. xavi: it will work in demo.t.o/6x or proposals/6x etc RobertPlummer: I mean "it works" but it isn't accurate. xavi: if the quality team didn't remove it Trebly: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummer: On a side note guys, I've subbmitted a request to phpstorm to let tiki have a free license of tiki for use by developers to spread it's word.
xavi, ricks99: if you've not used it, it is like visual studio for php. xavi: RobertPlummer: -1 (it's not FLOSS)
but it'ws personal opinion, of course
individually, each developer can use whateever they want RobertPlummer: xavi: Well, I endorse it, it is amazing. And they are helping to futher FLOSS by offering it. xavi: as a community, I would say : -1 (FLOSS projects should be encouraged as a community) RobertPlummer: xavi: Don't nock it till you use it.
(unless of coarse you have already) xavi: I haven't, but as you may understand, phylosophical reasons might be in higher priority for some of us (FLOSS)
again, personal opinion RobertPlummer: xavi, agreed sandroandrade: joined #tikiwiki xavi: and not only phylosophical, but strategic in the mid and long runs, imho RobertPlummer: If they give us a license to use it, that is all.
xavi: What is carsten's name on here? xavi: I don't remember... radek82: joined #tikiwiki xavi: RobertPlummer: could we have some sort of "aliase names" added to highlighter modes in codemirror, so that names from geshi are kind-of recognized by codemirror?
example: html4strict as used in the http://doc.tiki.org/PluginCode#Examples_with_GeSHi rodrigoprimo: joined #tikiwiki xavi: potentially many sites might be using the names in geshi to identify syntaxes... and if we could support some alias names, that might solve some upgrading issues for technical documentation (like in our own docs in doc.t.o) RobertPlummer: xavi, yea, that'd be great, I couldn't find a list of names for geshi, but if you have it... Lets do it, that is a fix for compatibility. xavi: it's been here for years: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginCode#Geshi_-_Supported_Languages RobertPlummer: lol, just found it. xavi: at least the basic ones RobertPlummer: WOW! xavi: like the ones supported by codemirror
and btw, I just noticed some hours ago in an upgrade of one of our production sites from proposals/6x to 9x that two (new) issues showed up
(1) "Unterminated regular expression literal." is shown in an error remarksbox every now and then when we change some admin panels
(2) jsminification: when disabled, tabs in admin panels don't work any more
and (3) : lots of " showed up in our pages, instead of simple "
about (3), I thought jonnyb had done something to fix it... Trebly: <RobertPlummer>Hi, I have well understood that image gallery are naturally dieing. The question is that files galleries seems not well ended in 8.3, I got dysfunctions that I don't understand. For example the insert wiki syntax for a link from the list_files or images views are fair but give curious results. In image galleries the syntax was proposed to copy-paste.
How did you program to send your scripts to migrate data to me.
I can (I began) to set right the old image gallery. It could not function in a lot of cases. It needs quite a lot of changes to function as intended and to be solid, resilient code, a change into db (to make a join between images and images_data, this leads to a stable code that can be live till all users data are migrated or for the life of 8.x. Do I do this ?
xavi: Trebly: show your patch in the devel list
so that others can improve it, etc.
if you are not sure about it
or if it works for you, you can commit your fix in trunk, to let others play with it and improve it? (provided that your fix works)
Trebly ^ RobertPlummer: Trebly: I agree with xavi.
xavi, the problem with encoding is that we need a different parser.
xaxi, from what I gather, nobody wants to fix it (or can) because it is too complex. xavi: I understand RobertPlummer: xavi: I did take some time to get the new parser JisonParser_Wiki to a sort of alpha state. xavi: yes, it's great that you have done all this work with the prototype of the new parser Trebly: <XAVI> Ok, it will be tested, more I will give the url to test the result from my server. I propose that the code should be available from the experimental repository (trebly, I have near 50 proposals to upload quite ready). xavi: I hope other devs can provide feedback about it, RobertPlummer RobertPlummer: xavi: I think if we take a look at it as developers we can see that not only is it easy to make a new language, but that it can be very orderly and fun.
xavi: Have you taken a look at any of the code? xavi: nope, I can't invest more hours as developer than the little ones I can allocate
most of my time at work is for non-tiki-dev things, in fact
and my free time is fairly limited to learn such new things as a new parser, jison, etc . Other will provide feedback to you (it's a matter of time)
Trebly: remember teh Tiki rule (and also, from many FLOSS projects): "commit early, commit often"
and Trebly: do as you consider is the best (experimental branch if this is not in a working state; but I would say, use trunk if they are working for you, etc)
Trebly, whatever you wish CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40869 10/branches/9.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.js: [FIX] geshi compatibility RobertPlummer: xavi ;) xavi: RobertPlummer: thanks :-)
ricks99: ?
some css question for you, css-master :-) ricks99: go for it xavi: I've upgraded a site using a theme style based on mollio, up to 9x
and the login greyed box is placed higher than expected:
see it at http://ueb.vhir.org ricks99: looking... xavi: I'm still tweaking the custom css settings
but I seem not to find easily the way to place this back to just on top of the topbar
and not floating higher, over that image ricks99: upgraded from 6? xavi: yes ricks99: all the "sitemycode" stuff that tiki puts into a single module, really needs to (manually) be moved into tiki 9 modules
for example, you can use the site logo/title for the site title -- instead of "sitemycode"
but that's for later, let me take a look to move the LOGIN box down...
ah... easy fix: xavi: :-) ricks99: in #top_modules .box-login_box { } definitition, remove the bottom:40px declaration xavi: argh.... ricks99: might want to increase the spacing around the UCTS and VHIR images too.
quite easy: xavi: #top_modules .box-login_box { } : you are right, fixed! ricks99: in the sitemycode module, you have: <div style="float: right; ">
just add: padding-bottom: 20px; -: ricks99 gee... maybe i *do* deserve the title css-master! :-) xavi: :-)
+1 arildb: joined #tikiwiki ricks99: 01anyone know status of 6.7LTS? OK to make public annoucement? xavi: and sitemycode module with padding-bottom 20px, better with it, thanks again ricks99: my pleasure xavi: 6.7 LTS: no idea ricks99: ive installed and upgraded, seems good to me RobertPlummer: xavi, i just did a pull request on our tiki mode in codemirror to codemirror... woohoo!
changi: How are we looking to do a release sometime soon for alpha?
We need to confirm that jonnyb's fix really did fix the encoding issues that had been a blocker.
Jyhem, did you get a chance to check out Tracker_Query?
Jyhem_laptop: ^ Jyhem: polom RobertPlummer, xavi RobertPlummer: Jyhem polom xavi: hi Jyhem and c u (time to leave for me)
see you later
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(wasn't home yesterday)
I'd rather look at Jonny's Lucene options right now :-) RobertPlummer: Jyhem, yea they are nice. Did you get a chance to build a query? Jyhem: My sites need 1 hour and a half for a rebuild, and they are not with production data yet
I built a Query, and an Queryinput
I'm kind of wondering if there is a list of options, and if there is provision for inputting or updating data RobertPlummer: Jyhem what are your thoughts?
Jyhem, yea that is the tricky part that needs built. Originally there wasn't yet a need to update data, so I created a jQuery plugin that sent the data to the tracker editor, and it updates, but I'd like to have that in there, it is the missing link.
I guess it isn't so much tricky, it just needs built.
Probably just a few lines of code too. Jyhem: I'm still focusing on my website's needs, and there are so many ways of going at it... I'm a bit lost. Especially since I feel there is a big migration from Tiki6's procedural coding+smarty templates to some object+MVC+"smarty as an afterthought" model
I do a lot of crash self-teaching nowadays RobertPlummer: Jyhem understood.
Jyhem smarty is nice, but I guess we found that it was too insecure...
Jyhem and buggy, but now they have a nice parser that treats it more like a language.
Jyhem I understand both schools of thought, I think with less smarty it becomes more understandable, but with smarty it is more dynamic. Jyhem: I also just noticed that http://doc.tiki.org/Multilingual+trackers does not work for field names, and looked into it but could not get it fixed RobertPlummer: In Tracker_Query? Jyhem: Well, to main smarty advantage was the separation of display from coding, and the automatic caching
It is quite possible to delegate the visual design of a website to a graphist by handing them access to the templates. I have no idea how we can do that now RobertPlummer: Jyhem, yea, but even that has disadvantages. The caching starts to hurt you after you get 10 layers deep, no? Because it still has to open caches up.
Jyhem how do you mean? Much of tiki still uses smarty. Sort of like controls for .net. -: Jyhem does not do .net :-) RobertPlummer: Jyhem we are shifting to a smarty where needed in design of pages, but not in wiki execution.
Wiki needs to use plugins, and those can easily execute smarty bits, but the separation was needed for less design complexity, debug, and security. carsten: joined #tikiwiki Jyhem: Say I want a text field value to be translated on display in tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=13 → no trackeroutput/text.tpl exists. I have to hack renderOutput
which mixes logic and display coaboa: joined #tikiwiki -: Jyhem scrabbling for examples Jyhem: I also tried to translate the field names in tiki-admin_tracker_fields.php?trackerId=13 but they are not in templates/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl they are dynamically generated in lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-trackers.js but in line 112, I tried .text(field.name == null?" ":tr(field.name)) → no luck
Even .text(tr("Very Secure")) displays "Very Secure" while the tranlation is in lang/fr/language.js coaboa: joined #tikiwiki Jyhem: I have clients who have changed smarty templates to fit their needs, and trust me, they will not understand the meaning of "less design complexity" :-) RobertPlummer: Jyhem understood.
Jyhem keep in mind that although much of the code is in Tracker (class) and sub classes, we are migrating over to core/lib/Tracker, and LP I think left much of it un-done, not because he wanted to, but because he is only 1 guy.
Jyhem my plan was that trackers are so inefficient in both speed and translations that we needed a singular entity to fix them. My solution was to write Tracker_Query so that we could have a singular entry point from mysql to obtain tracker data, and at that point we could then rewrite trackers, permissions to them, and translations for them.
There were other reasons too... But I can't stand jumping into 10 layers deep of tracker code, when all I want is 1 item.
print_r(Tracker_Query::name("My Tracker")->byName()->item(100)); //DONE! coaboa: joined #tikiwiki changi: polom Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: I have error in admin panel - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=43803 -: changi preparing alpha changi: RobertPlummer: still ok for alpha tonight xavi: joined #tikiwiki
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RobertPlummer: the nickname of CArsten is coaboa (logged in irc right now, it seems :-) )
you can ping him if you need it benoitg: joined #tikiwiki xavi: btw, I noticed today that dynamic item lists in 9x are not working for me (in an upgraded site). Any succesful person using dynamic items lists in 9x? -: xavi doing housework in the meanwhile Trebly: joined #tikiwiki benoitg: joined #tikiwiki changi: Jyhem: ping CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40870 10/branches/9.x/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX] wiki_topline is not aligned with 8px
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40871 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/Tracker/Query.php: [FIX] Degrade gracefully if no tracker id returned when query inputs
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40872 10/branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_timesheet.php: [FIX] Remove tons of calls to headerlib when only 1 needed arildb: Hi. normally I use Windows, but decided to install Debian + Tiki on a machine. Tried to run the unit tests, but they fail with "Call to undefined method Reports_ManagerTest::getMockBuilder()" xavi: arildb: no idea. maybe rodrigoprimo might know? you can ask in the tikiwiki-devel list arildb: xavi: will try that xavi: btw, another issue in 9x (javascript related): tracker numeric field, its separator is buggy with chrome/chromium (works with firefox) CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40873 10/branches/9.x/lib/init/initlib.php: [FIX] Don't display a useless warning when we are in a safe place xavi: bug1: Decimal separator set to "c" (comma). However, if you write "1,2" for instance, it's rejected (on both ff and chrome)
bug2: Decimal separator set to "c" (comma). If you write "1.2" for instance with FF, it works and it's saved as 1 point 2. However, if you write "1.2" on chrome, the js validation shows up and prevents you from saving. Once you write "1,2" in chrome, then it's saved as "12,0"
I'll add these two issues to the tiki9 page at dev.t.o goj: joined #tikiwiki nighthawk: joined #tikiwiki Guest88409: hello... xavi: Jyhem?
or sylvieg ? CIA-36: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40874 10/branches/9.x/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX] Blue on blue is not readable + padding is not necessary
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40875 10/branches/9.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Profile check on user with right permissions, migrated from the nast hack
tikiwiki: into trackers from request to a mildy nast hack of using the $.trackerForm,
tikiwiki: which isn't so bad, but will be on large sets of items. It works well though.
tikiwiki: [REM] Deleted replaceItemFromRequestValues and replaceItemFromRequestValue from tracker lib, they were just hacks and did not work
tikiwiki: [FIX] Commented out the reference to the above in tiki-edit_invoice, will find a better way once tracker query lib matures, it wasen't really working anyway
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40876 10/branches/9.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [REM] Forgot to include fram last commit
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