#tikiwiki 2012-04-18,Wed

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Trebly	joined #tikiwiki <RobertPlummer>Hi, can you answer to me ? <RobertPlummer>I have a few question to end the job on images-galleries, and send a message in dev-list	[1:12]
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RobertPlummer	Trebly: I'm here now. polom fabricius	[2:44]
CIA-36	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40975 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Ensure that & the char is handled correctly, & was not correct to use, tikiwiki: and since & the char usually comes before a word, I simple look for '& ' which tikiwiki: seems to work pretty well, it hasen't failed in any of my test cases. tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40976 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php: [FIX] Change jison parser's parserStack to a static var, should transfer between other stacks ok	[2:56]
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kstingel	I'm trying to debug {toc} usage (on Rick's Smarties site)... for some reason, internal ToC calls are displaying the structure from the beginning instead of just the child elements I'm assuming there is a minor error in the call, but I don't fully understand how to change so that it only calls the child items	[3:36]
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xavi	joined #tikiwiki polom css guru's around, at this time of the day? I wanted to modify the size of some text from a module, when shown in a side column (if possible), but keep the default size when that module is shown in the midddle of the wiki page to make some line of text fit in the side column when shown there is this possible? (and if so, "how?", of course :-) )	[9:11]
mose	sure it's possible polom pompom xavi	[9:13]
xavi	:-) hi mose :-)	[9:13]
mose	the side columns are #col2 and #col3	[9:14]
xavi	I using this right now: #jtrack-bar { font-size:76%; }	[9:14]
mose	but you have #left_moduloe and #right_module too	[9:14]
xavi	but this is changing font size also when the timesheet feature (jquery app) is shown in the central column	[9:15]
mose	you can just do #left_module #jtrack-bar { .. }	[9:15]
xavi	ok, thanks! :-)	[9:15]
mose	and same for right_module with a s	[9:15]
xavi	ok, testing it	[9:15]
mose	#right_modules	[9:15]
xavi	yay, ti works! thanks :-) s/ti/it and to say in both columns? #left_modules #jtrack-bar, #right_modules #jtrack-bar { .. } xavi css newbie still, as you can see yes, it seems to be that syntax (I don't have left modules in my production site, but it should be like this) mose, btw, how are things going?	[9:17]
mose	kindof nice	[9:20]
xavi	did you do some chinese-wine already?	[9:20]
mose	doing rails stuff now no I do chinese-tofu-cheese lol	[9:20]
xavi	ok, ruby (& ror) seems to be fashin lol s/fashin/fashion	[9:21]
mose	yes it is as well as some nodejs thing very trendy too	[9:21]
xavi	nodejs sound "Chinese" to me xavi googling for it	[9:22]
mose	taht's javascript server-side	[9:22]
xavi	ok like the jison thing that robertplummer implemented, I guess	[9:22]
mose	no idea I'm so lost now well, almost	[9:22]
xavi	a new wiki parser based on server-side js, afaik experimental in 9x afaik and disabled by default	[9:22]
mose	sounds bold it requires some server setup that shared hostong will not be able to afford	[9:23]
xavi	mose, do you know that there are some tiki webinars planned? "jison thing": I think it's converted to php server side from the js-thing parser as you can see, I didn't understand the details, just got the rough idea about it	[9:23]
mose	:) no idea about webinars	[9:24]
xavi	but in those meetings (I definitively suggest you to attend some) some devs exlain their cutting edge developments, roadmaps, googies in the oven ,etc webinars... letme fetch a url for you... do you know bbb?	[9:25]
mose	yeah I tried that long time ago but that was not very good	[9:25]
xavi	ok, they improved bbb a lot	[9:25]
mose	from my perspective	[9:26]
xavi	and there is recording already (of sync'ed audio, video, chat,e tc) webinars: http://tiki.org/Webinars and next one is.... Tomorrow, btw! what local time do you have now?	[9:26]
mose	gmt+8 not very compatible	[9:27]
xavi	ok, that might be a webinar fairly early in the morning... yes oh well, about being lost.... I know it's not the best for you, but from the "end user" point of view, you can chronologically review the improvements since tiki 1.10 through the doc pages for each new version: http://doc.tiki.org/tiki2 http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki3 ... http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki9 ^ mose	[9:27]
mose	bah	[9:30]
xavi	:-)	[9:30]
mose	I feel old :P	[9:31]
xavi	:-D do you code for android? :-)	[9:31]
mose	not really	[9:31]
xavi	s/for android/android apps	[9:31]
mose	I still hate phones	[9:32]
xavi	are you using smartphones? ah, ok :-)	[9:32]
mose	got a blackberry but my use is very limited	[9:32]
xavi	ok	[9:32]
marclaporte	xavi: can you present a feature for webinar?	[9:33]
xavi	and just for curiosity: which OS are you using in your computer/s? hi marclaporte (late night work, I guess :-) ) marclaporte: a feature in Tiki9? :-) like Plugin Convene and/or Plugin Time Sheet? :-)	[9:33]
marclaporte	yes, both! polom mose	[9:35]
mose	me ? OS ? I always used debian derivative, like ubuntu or mint heya marc	[9:35]
xavi	maybe PluginTimeSheet is enough for one seminar	[9:35]
marclaporte	we are soon hoing to have to delve into NodeJS for this: http://dev.tiki.org/Realtime	[9:35]
xavi	plus Convene is not finished yet (to be a good replacement of doodle inside tiki)	[9:35]
marclaporte	hoing -> having	[9:35]
xavi	mose: ok. and desktop? (still personal curiosity): gnome x, kde 4, kde3, xfce, lxde, pure console :-), others? or even unity, maybe?	[9:37]
mose	cinnamon	[9:37]
xavi	oups, that's new to me	[9:37]
mose	unity, common, let's be serious	[9:37]
xavi	xavi googling for it :-)	[9:37]
mose	cinnamon or mate	[9:37]
marclaporte	bedtime....	[9:40]
xavi	wohooo, sounds nice!: http://www.howtogeek.com/103691/install-linux-mints-new-cinnamon-desktop-on-ubuntu/ g'night marc	[9:40]
marclaporte	mose, I'd sure like your take on http://dev.tiki.org/Realtime	[9:40]
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fidel	hi - i noticed one more thing regarding importing a mediawiki xml into tiki using tiki-importer it looks like -at least to me during my tests - that tiki does not import/creates the existing categories so pages, attachments etc got imported without issues - while my category links were all dead/not working not sure if thats a known issue or not	[10:47]
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gillesMM	how can I change the background color inside the fsck editor ?	[11:12]
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	polom y'all	[12:30]
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marclaporte	fidel: are you using 8.x? I think there was work by sylvieg recently about category imports on mediawiki	[13:45]
fidel	sylvieg: any ideas regarding the current state of tiki-importer & mediawiki categories?	[13:59]
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xavi	gillesMM: see the irc log from yesterday. there were some tips about this, but I didn't succeed attempting to change mollio's bg color in wywisyg. maybe you are more succesful in your case irc logs: http://irc.tiki.org	[14:33]
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CIA-36	tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r40977 10/branches/9.x/tiki-view_tracker.php: [FIX] missing curly braces for if check at line 255 - causing the strange 'logged out' behaviour when trying to view a tracker	[14:56]
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CIA-36	tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r40978 10/branches/9.x/tiki-view_tracker.php: [FIX] another typo - causing the strange 'logged out' behaviour when trying to view a tracker	[15:7]
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	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r40979 10/branches/9.x/lang/en/language.php: English language improvement. Meaning not changed.	[15:20]
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CIA-36	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r40980 10/trunk/lang/en/language.php: Forward port of 40979	[15:24]
gillesMM	xavi I founf found	[15:31]
xavi	:-) "and the winner is..."?	[15:32]
gillesMM	You have to declare a body in your css with a background value like here http://paste.kde.org/459356/ I choosen white	[15:32]
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CIA-36	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r40981 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: Document the great feature added by Jyhem: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=35537	[16:0]
Jyhem	Polom	[16:3]
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xavi	gillesMM: it doesn't work for me with mollio.css I don't know why, when I add that trick in the custom.css area of the admin panels. Reproduced here: http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-editpage.php?page=wysiwyg hi Jyhem	[16:21]
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ricks99	xavi: try adding body.cke_show_borders {background:#ffffff !important}	[16:23]
xavi	I did yesterday... I'll try again (thanks again ricks99 )	[16:24]
gillesMM	xavi .. and empty navigator cache	[16:24]
xavi	he he, I did each time and in case, tiki's cache	[16:24]
Jyhem	hi xavi	[16:25]
xavi	and just in case, I was my hands each time, and pray a few prayers each time....	[16:25]
ricks99	lol	[16:25]
Jyhem	this looks like an old topic :-(	[16:25]
gillesMM	I have a probleme with Wysiwyg newlsetter . I receveive <p> in the body .. idea ?	[16:25]
xavi	xavi doesn't know what else to do s/was/wash	[16:25]
gillesMM	xavi show me your body in your css	[16:25]
xavi	gillesMM: can't you get it from here: http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-editpage.php?page=wysiwyg ? can anyone see white bg in this page http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-editpage.php?page=wysiwyg once logged in as admin and using mollio.css theme style? after being white, it switches to black each time, all browsers I've tried, all conditions....	[16:26]
gillesMM	I am not logged	[16:27]
xavi	you can log in (data is in http://demo.tiki.org	[16:28]
ricks99	xavi: i see white after chaning the background in firebug	[16:28]
xavi	ok, ricks99, so maybe there is a bug somewhere else, if we can't change that with custom css	[16:28]
gillesMM	ricks99: no idea about my HTML tags in my newsletter? what is the css you are using xavi	[16:29]
xavi	mollio.css from mods, added to demo.t.o	[16:29]
ricks99	gillesMM: sorry. i avoid html email whenver possible	[16:29]
Bernard2	hi gillesMM, i never succeded to send an html newsletter since tw9. I send plain wiki today	[16:32]
ricks99	ahh xavi... i think i see the issue. 1 sec...	[16:33]
gillesMM	hi Bernard2	[16:35]
Jyhem	Jyhem updates demo/9x	[16:35]
gillesMM	I am in 8.3	[16:35]
Bernard2	I tested also using demo. Now beware at some point i could see a correct preview but the mail was html non-interpreted. It was 10 days ago +/-, may be things has changed. i was on 6 (worked) tried on 8, then was told to try 9/trunk. Sylvie knows something about it but she has too much on her	[16:36]
Jyhem	xavi: try http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-editpage.php?page=wysiwyg ?	[16:45]
xavi	Jyhem: I get black bg still (after clearing browser's cache ) oh well, enough for me for now (teaching time soon) thanks for your feedback to all see you later today (maybe) or tomorrow left #tikiwiki	[16:46]
ricks99	yeah! fixed iframe html.CSS1Compat > body.cke_show_borders {background:#ffffff !important}	[16:49]
CIA-36	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r40982 10/branches/9.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX]Fixing a few details for jtrack (timesheet feature and plugin) display properly in side columns or in the central column.	[16:53]
Jyhem	never mind, rolling back http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-editpage.php?page=wysiwyg	[16:54]
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Jyhem	Can i prefill a Tracker plugin (directly, without calling it from another page) ?	[17:24]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Ein eigenes Plugin aufrufen?? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=43838	[17:24]
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marclaporte	You don't like http://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerPrefill ? Jyhem: you can put default values in fields ex.: in a drop down, if choices are a,b,b,c -> b will be set by default	[17:46]
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	hello. i would like to enable the "tableresize" plugin for CKEditor, but i really can not find in the tiki code where i should be adding it. where can i add it? i am running 8.3. thank you.	[18:10]
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CIA-36	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r40983 10/branches/9.x/lang/en/language.php: English language improvement. Meaning not changed. tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r40984 10/trunk/lang/en/language.php: Forward port of 40983	[19:1]
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changi	jinriki: tiki doesn't support postgresql jinriki: sorry	[19:13]
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arildb	I am wondering when the 8.4 release is planned. Does anybody know a tentative date?	[19:49]
ricks99	not sure... 9.0 is in a few weeks. i don't think there's a ../proposals/8.x/.. branch. so not sure 8.4 is planned	[19:52]
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arildb	ricks99: I know 9.0 is due soon, but I am hoping for (at least) one more 8.x release. 8.x is not an LTS so I guess there wouldn't be a ../proposals/8.x/.. defined.	[20:4]
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marclaporte	http://tiki.org/TikiPostgres updated arildb: see tiki-dev message about 8.4	[20:10]
arildb	marclaporte: ok. thanks	[20:13]
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ricks99	you can safely delete the other languages	[20:22]
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arildb	Jyhem: a couple of days ago we talked about the copying of direct object permissions, and adding an option to disable this (which I need). This was implemented in trunk (r40907) + a fix in r40930. I am wondering if you (or anybody else) have tested this. I would like to backport it (to 9.x and 8.x). Is it ready for the backport?	[21:50]
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arildb	xavi: I added the functionality we talked about a few days ago (copying of direct object permissions for structure pages). r40907 and r40930. Did you have a chance to test/check it. Is it ready for a backport?	[22:24]
xavi	sorry arildb, all my (limited) time goes into 9x these weeks I would say test it yourself in 9x, and if it works for you, commit your fix to 9x or if you consider that it's not a fix, then you should wait until 9.0 is released to backport to 9x afaik	[22:25]
arildb	xavi: I did test it, and it seems to work ok. I need the disable functionality in 8.x. It should be according to what we spoke about. So, I'll go ahead with the backport	[22:29]
xavi	ok, well done, then	[22:29]
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CIA-36	tikiwiki: 03arildb * r40985 10/branches/9.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [MOD][bp/40907+40930] Copying of direct object permissions when adding structure pages are now done for users tikiwiki: with tiki_p_edit_structures and tiki_p_edit permissions (in addition to users with tiki_p_admin_wiki permissions). tikiwiki: A new wiki structure option "feature_wiki_no_inherit_perms_structure" is added, which will disable the copying. tikiwiki: 03arildb * r40986 10/branches/8.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [MOD][bp/40907+40930] Copying of direct object permissions when adding structure pages are now done for users tikiwiki: with tiki_p_edit_structures and tiki_p_edit permissions (in addition to users with tiki_p_admin_wiki permissions). tikiwiki: A new wiki structure option "feature_wiki_no_inherit_perms_structure" is added, which will disable the copying.	[22:48]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Adding extraPlugins to CKEditor - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=43843	[22:48]
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	Having trouble installing 9.0 manually.	[23:31]

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