[00:09] nkoth|nelson anyone knows how to set the zoom in the wikiplugin_map?
[00:13] jonnyb sorry nkoth|nelson, no - guess there's an api call somewhere
[00:14] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03chealer * r41273 10/trunk/lib/wiki/histlib.php: [REF] Clarify histlib_helper_setup_diff()
[00:14] nkoth|nelson hmm there is a "center" param which gets passed to parse_coordinates
[00:14] nkoth|nelson probably an x,y,z
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[00:28] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41275 10/trunk/lib/profilelib/installlib.php: [FIX] very edge-case installer error probably due to locally messed up database, but better safe than sorry?
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[10:10] Jyhem polom
[10:10] Jyhem memory issues :-(
[10:11] Jyhem php-apc or php5-xcache ?
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[10:20] changi|work Jyhem: honestly ?
[10:20] changi|work Jyhem: php-apc
[10:21] changi|work Jyhem: but when you are using fcgid, php-apc don't share memory between process neither php5-xcache, so for me it's not really necessary.
[10:24] Jyhem free
[10:24] Jyhem total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[10:24] Jyhem Mem:       4056972    4020432      36540          0      19960    3261464
[10:24] Jyhem -/+ buffers/cache:     739008    3317964
[10:24] Jyhem Swap:      4190204     114632    4075572
[10:24] Jyhem I thought 4 GB was a lot :-(
[10:25] Jyhem I set php-apc on another server (spiral) and it says Small amount of memory allocated to APC. Verify the configuration.
[10:26] Jyhem So, if APC *eats* even more memory, what is the point ?
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[14:12] jonnyb polomolomolom
[14:12] jonnyb hi chibaguy - have a little css question
[14:13] chibaguy hi jonnyb
[14:13] jonnyb when you make text really big, the line height goes wrong (as seen here in page made by arildb http://dev.tiki.org/WYSIWYG+testing )
[14:14] jonnyb and it's down to the font definition in the body of most themes
[14:14] jonnyb e.g. font: 76%/1.5em
[14:15] chibaguy Ah, OK. The /1.5em is the culprit.
[14:15] jonnyb whereas if you make it font: 76%/1.5 (no units) it seems ok
[14:15] jonnyb indeed
[14:15] chibaguy It should be some other unit, as you say.
[14:15] jonnyb or 150% is ok too
[14:15] chibaguy Yes, I think 1.5 is equivalent to 150% maybe.
[14:16] jonnyb hmm, not quite for some reason
[14:16] chibaguy Oh, ok. I don't recall the rationale off hand.
[14:16] chibaguy Anyway, it shouldn't be a pixel or em unit.
[14:17] chibaguy And probably then the same line-height will work for body text and headings.
[14:17] jonnyb in fact i think it looks best (in safari anyway) with no line-height specified
[14:18] jonnyb indeed - nest of worms, so i'm not going to touch it now, just wanted to get your opinion
[14:18] chibaguy Oh, maybe safari has a larger line height by default than other browsers. I noticed that many stylesheets seem to specify a line height if the designer wants a litte less crowded look in the text.
[14:19] chibaguy yeah, I think definitely the em or px unit line height should go.
[14:20] jonnyb by the way, Alex's ("nagoyaguy") site is nearly ready - http://otaku.com:2012 - check out the funky search thing! :)
[14:21] jonnyb i think i'll commit removing the em for jqui.css for now - looks better to me here
[14:21] chibaguy Heh, looks like a pretty comprehensive search.
[14:22] jonnyb :)
[14:22] jonnyb should add an "in stock" checkbox too but can't find room ;)
[14:23] chibaguy It's fun to play with the checkboxes ;-) .
[14:24] * jonnyb is currently having fun with smarty which seems to think that "2 eq 0" is true somehow
[14:24] chibaguy Hmm, that would be an aspect of 2 I hadn't considered before. ;-)
[14:26] jonnyb it's in a smarty tpl used in a list plugin (trying to work out if stuff is in stock) - really odd!
[14:28] chibaguy You know, about the search page, I think Tiki's standard tiki-searchindex.php is way too "techy". "Lookup" and "Deep search" - what are these terms for normal users?
[14:29] chibaguy Why is there both a "Lookup" link and a "Search" button, etc.?
[14:29] jonnyb yes, it frightens normal people
[14:29] jonnyb needs designing (from a ui point of view)
[14:30] Jyhem Polom
[14:30] * Jyhem likes http://otaku.com:2012
[14:30] chibaguy Yep. Your otaku search is dreamy in comparison.
[14:30] chibaguy (I mean that in a good way.)
[14:30] jonnyb hi Jyhem - thanks
[14:31] jonnyb i'm rather pleased with it in general
[14:31] Jyhem Are these real tiki categories ?
[14:31] * Jyhem was about to give up on categories for tracker items
[14:31] jonnyb no, it just a tracker number field as it has to sync with their existing back-end
[14:32] jonnyb so it's a "linked" tracker i guess
[14:32] Jyhem Yes, but with a numeric field, I guess
[14:32] jonnyb yes, and some funky stuff mapping from the original id to the tracker itemId's
[14:33] Jyhem OK :-)
[14:33] jonnyb the theory is the whole tracker thing can be rebuilt from their back-end, so all the itemIds can change
[14:34] * Jyhem shudders
[14:34] jonnyb which makes keeping track of the user votes might be tricky - expecting a few bugs in there when it really comes to it
[14:34] * chibaguy 's eyes glaze over...
[14:34] Jyhem I can see why this import script took so long: it's not a one-shot import thing. It's a permanent feature
[14:35] jonnyb indeed - been a few months so far
[14:36] jonnyb but not a million kms from your big project i guess?
[14:38] Jyhem I have the suspicion the category field has strange interferences with permissions :-( I mean, the use case is unclear
[14:41] Jyhem Is http://otaku.com:2012 monolingual ?
[14:42] jonnyb yes, but with occasional bits in Japanese (like product titles)
[14:42] jonnyb sadly Japanese doesn't seem to work in the search :(
[14:43] jonnyb meaning ask LP about it sometime, probably needs indexing differently
[14:46] Jyhem are you utf8-unicode_ci ?
[14:46] * Jyhem knows no japanese, but hought search might work
[14:48] chibaguy Entering some Japanese text seems to produce unrelated results.
[14:50] chibaguy Or actually the same results as I get by clicking the search button with an empty text box.
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[14:57] jonnyb indeed - it's ignored :(
[15:08] chibaguy One point: on my 1240 x 768 laptop screen, on an item description page, with the thumbnails down below the description text, it's hard to get the main image and the thumbnails both in the window. Seems like it'd be better if the thumbs were directly below the large image.
[15:08] chibaguy http://otaku.com:2012/products/26282 for example.
[15:12] chibaguy Also some odd jumpiness on http://otaku.com:2012/products/29431 as I guess the browser tries to accomodate changing mouse focus.
[15:16] chibaguy (This is with Windows/Opera.)
[15:28] * Jyhem just won a book on Wordpress :-)
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[15:32] jonnyb :D Jyhem!
[15:32] jonnyb off for food - bbl
[16:01] Jyhem chibaguy: I think something needs correcting in the design.css in 9.x
[16:05] Jyhem Get on http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-admin.php?page=performance and see how the .tabactive {border-style:solid solid none;} causes the active tab to be larger than the others and pushes the lower line of tabs :-(
[16:10] jonnyb that looks like bad css
[16:11] jonnyb hmm, maybe not...
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[16:17] jonnyb seems to be because both .tabmark and .tabmark a get borders applied
[16:17] chibaguy Heh, in Fivealive at that site, I have an almost-black page background. I wonder where that's coming from.
[16:18] chibaguy The tabs look ok to me, in Opera anyway.
[16:19] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41282 10/branches/9.x/styles/jqui.css: [FIX] css: Remove unit from line-height definition as it fails on large font sizes
[16:20] chibaguy There must be a browser-specific difference.
[16:20] chibaguy Anyway, I need to go but will be checking on that.
[16:27] Jyhem chibaguy_away: it's ok in fivealive. Issue is with eatlon.css and probably others
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[17:00] jonnyb ok, here's a goodie - i'm adding a note to doc.t.o and want to have no-parse tags showing - how do you do that?
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[17:28] d6chung Hey, anyone know what else I can check for a "Tiki is unable to connect to the database" message? It suddenly stopped working. I verified that the webhost is able to connect to the DB and run queries with the credentials given.
[17:29] d6chung I also restarted apache for good measure.
[17:33] d6chung Er... never mind. It seems to have resolved itself... weird...
[17:36] jonnyb weird indeed d6chung - these things can happen
[17:37] jonnyb i have a theory (only) that php leaks memory and after it's been running for a long time (weeks) bad things can start to happen
[17:37] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r41283 10/branches/9.x/templates/trackerinput/dropdown.tpl: [FIX] Don't handle 0 like null
[17:48] changi|work jonnyb: hi
[17:52] changi|work jonnyb: i've got an issue with you commit n°41266, when you have wysiwyg activate but your are not using it on a page that contain a maketoc, everything get transform to html
[17:52] jonnyb few mins pls changi|work
[17:53] changi|work jonnyb: no problem it's not urgent, just i've noticed that
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[18:10] jonnyb ok, back changi|work - checking 41266
[18:12] jonnyb that maketoc code is pretty ropey - sounds like $need_maketoc doesn't get set
[18:12] jonnyb also it should be testing the page, not the prefs - will get on it...
[18:29] nkoth|nelson jonnyb: i have one encoding issue related to search formatter in Tiki 9.... wondering if you have a clue
[18:30] jonnyb hi nkoth|nelson - maybe, been rummaging in there today already
[18:30] jonnyb (trying to work out why '2 eq 0' was true in my smarty {list} tpls)
[18:31] nkoth|nelson in lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter/Categorylist.php it generates a bunch of HTML and then puts it in ~np~ ~/np~ before sending it backout to the plugin
[18:31] nkoth|nelson it is the same with Trackerrender.php but I haven't tried that one yet
[18:31] jonnyb everything seems to get wrapped in ~/np~
[18:32] nkoth|nelson For me, I get encoded HTML in the end
[18:32] jonnyb you have an example somewhere?
[18:33] nkoth|nelson ok I'll email it to you
[18:34] nkoth|nelson sent
[18:35] * jonnyb checks
[18:35] Jyhem jonnyb: I lost a lot of trust in smarty's "eq" when I discovered that "0" eq "" :-(
[18:35] Jyhem "0" === "" did it
[18:37] * Jyhem nearly reused the old shellscript tricks like  "x0" eq "x" :-)
[18:37] jonnyb it was due to these ~np~ tags round everything in the end
[18:38] nkoth|nelson I did try without the ~np~, it does not help...
[18:39] nkoth|nelson the formatted output bubbles up into the plugin which is then handled by the parser, right?
[18:39] jonnyb think so, yes
[18:40] nkoth|nelson stuff in ~np~ is encoded as well then unless it is html?
[18:40] nkoth|nelson anyway, that's as far as I got.
[18:40] jonnyb isn't there a "mode=raw" option for FORMAT?
[18:41] jonnyb didn't used to be needed but i found i had to add them (pre all this encoding stuff)
[18:41] nkoth|nelson I'll try
[18:42] jonnyb that page is a wysiwyg one too, might be not helping (getting " all over the place)
[18:42] nkoth|nelson maybe it's just mode=raw
[18:44] nkoth|nelson but I am using the smarty formatting
[18:44] nkoth|nelson the mode==raw goes in column?
[18:45] nkoth|nelson what does mode=raw do? simple thmldecodes?
[18:45] jonnyb in {display} i think, but can't find one now
[18:45] jonnyb it tells the formatter that it's raw html
[18:46] jonnyb ah, you're right - it's for the table.tpl output & goes in column, so not relevant here
[18:46] nkoth|nelson the thing is this is the first time I am trying this in a tiki9, so I don't know how long has the problem been there
[18:47] jonnyb i have quite a few trackerrender fields working ok, should be the same
[18:48] jonnyb might need a fix in categorylist
[18:48] nkoth|nelson but if you are using column mode=raw maybe that "solves it"
[18:48] jonnyb have to pop out for a while, bbl
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[19:22] jonnyb back
[19:23] jonnyb nkoth|nelson: no, my stuff is all in external smarty tpls, no {column}s
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[19:25] jonnyb changi|work: i still can reproduce this maketoc happening when not needed error - any more clues?
[19:35] eromneg jonnyb: Hi - are we still planning to do the alpha this week?
[19:35] jonnyb done i think, no changi|work ?
[19:37] eromneg ok - I can see it on Sourceforge now - cheers
[19:50] changi|work jonnyb: yes it is
[19:51] changi|work jonnyb: about the wysiwyg issue  i will do it on trunkdoc
[19:51] jonnyb ta
[19:54] changi|home http://trunkdoc.tiki.org/PluginList
[19:54] changi|home just have a look, you will understand
[19:54] changi|home i just activate wysiwyg
[19:55] changi|home i don't use it to edit
[19:55] changi|home jonnyb: !
[19:55] jonnyb ah right, so non html pages with maketoc in but with wysiwyg on
[19:55] changi|home jonnyb: yes
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[20:42] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41285 10/trunk/tiki-kaltura_video.php: [FIX] kaltura: Exception if media not found
[20:49] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r41286 10/trunk/lib/prefs/ids.php: PHPIDS was only supposed to log and not block (at first). Turning off by default temporarily because too many things are blocked
[20:57] * changi|home back
[20:57] changi|home jonnyb: did you see it ?
[20:58] jonnyb yes, on something else just now (and off out soon)
[20:58] changi|home jonnyb: ok
[20:58] jonnyb think i have a fix but found some other bugs on the way
[20:58] jonnyb adding  && $options['is_html'] to the condition on line 2069 of parserlib
[20:59] jonnyb but it seems once you do allowHtml on a wiki page you can't turn it off :(
[21:00] jonnyb the pref checks should go as well i think (maybe)
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[21:12] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41287 10/trunk/lib/ (videogals/kalturalib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_kaltura.php): [FIX] kaltura: Fail more politely if kaltura session has not been established (for instance after clearing caches)
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[21:40] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03chealer * r41288 10/branches/9.x/installer/shell.php:
[21:40] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [FIX] Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class Cachelib in [...]/lib/cache/cachelib.php on line 20
[21:40] CIA-36 tikiwiki: oops, r41281 regression
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[21:57] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [bp/r41183 and 41185] [FIX] Category permissions not checked for calendar RSS
[21:57] CIA-36 tikiwiki: feed and Using the same validation as in tiki-calendar.php Thank you
[21:57] CIA-36 tikiwiki: Louis-Philippe Huberdeau and Philippe Dallaire Fixes
[21:57] CIA-36 tikiwiki: http://dev.tiki.org/wish1372 reported by ibob
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[23:05] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [bp/r41183 and 41185] [FIX] Category permissions not checked for calendar RSS
[23:05] CIA-36 tikiwiki: feed and Using the same validation as in tiki-calendar.php Thank you
[23:05] CIA-36 tikiwiki: Louis-Philippe Huberdeau and Philippe Dallaire Fixes
[23:05] CIA-36 tikiwiki: http://dev.tiki.org/wish1372 reported by ibob
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