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nkoth|nelsonanyone knows how to set the zoom in the wikiplugin_map? [00:09]
jonnybsorry nkoth|nelson, no - guess there's an api call somewhere [00:13]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03chealer * r41273 10/trunk/lib/wiki/histlib.php: [REF] Clarify histlib_helper_setup_diff() [00:14]
nkoth|nelsonhmm there is a "center" param which gets passed to parse_coordinates
probably an x,y,z 		[00:14]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41274 10/trunk/doc/devtools/update.dogfoodserver.sh: [MRG] missed out devtools script
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41275 10/trunk/lib/profilelib/installlib.php: [FIX] very edge-case installer error probably due to locally messed up database, but better safe than sorry? 		[00:27]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41276 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] kaltura: Move player id list into option drop-down for kalture admin panel (thanks marclaporte and nkoth), also regularize save/change prefs buttons(s) [00:31]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41277 10/branches/9.x/lib/wiki/wikilib.php: [FIX] Args needed decoded too for the fingerprint to be accurate [00:35]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03chealer * r41280 10/trunk/lib/init/smarty.php: [REF] Revert r40280 "[ENH]smarty: is_numeric is secure" (already whitelisted) [01:02]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03chealer * r41281 10/branches/9.x/installer/shell.php: shell.php: Clear caches after upgrades, to prevent stale caches when patches manipulate preferences and other caches data directly in the database (backport of r41279) [01:17]
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Topicfor #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - Software made the Wiki Way - Tiki 8.3 is out! Wanna ask something? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help to get some help from our bot ;) Enjoy! [01:33]
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Jyhempolom
memory issues :-(
php-apc or php5-xcache ? 		[10:10]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Standardsymbolleiste - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=43938 [10:18]
changi|workJyhem: honestly ?
Jyhem: php-apc
Jyhem: but when you are using fcgid, php-apc don't share memory between process neither php5-xcache, so for me it's not really necessary. 		[10:20]
Jyhemfree
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 4056972 4020432 36540 0 19960 3261464
-/+ buffers/cache: 739008 3317964
Swap: 4190204 114632 4075572
I thought 4 GB was a lot :-(
I set php-apc on another server (spiral) and it says Small amount of memory allocated to APC. Verify the configuration.
So, if APC *eats* even more memory, what is the point ? 		[10:24]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Random Active Poll not working (tiki 8.3) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=43939 [12:39]
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jonnybpolomolomolom
hi chibaguy - have a little css question 		[14:12]
chibaguyhi jonnyb [14:13]
jonnybwhen you make text really big, the line height goes wrong (as seen here in page made by arildb http://dev.tiki.org/WYSIWYG+testing )
and it's down to the font definition in the body of most themes
e.g. font: 76%/1.5em 		[14:13]
chibaguyAh, OK. The /1.5em is the culprit. [14:15]
jonnybwhereas if you make it font: 76%/1.5 (no units) it seems ok
indeed 		[14:15]
chibaguyIt should be some other unit, as you say. [14:15]
jonnybor 150% is ok too [14:15]
chibaguyYes, I think 1.5 is equivalent to 150% maybe. [14:15]
jonnybhmm, not quite for some reason [14:16]
chibaguyOh, ok. I don't recall the rationale off hand.
Anyway, it shouldn't be a pixel or em unit.
And probably then the same line-height will work for body text and headings. 		[14:16]
jonnybin fact i think it looks best (in safari anyway) with no line-height specified
indeed - nest of worms, so i'm not going to touch it now, just wanted to get your opinion 		[14:17]
chibaguyOh, maybe safari has a larger line height by default than other browsers. I noticed that many stylesheets seem to specify a line height if the designer wants a litte less crowded look in the text.
yeah, I think definitely the em or px unit line height should go. 		[14:18]
jonnybby the way, Alex's ("nagoyaguy") site is nearly ready - http://otaku.com:2012 - check out the funky search thing! :)
i think i'll commit removing the em for jqui.css for now - looks better to me here 		[14:20]
chibaguyHeh, looks like a pretty comprehensive search. [14:21]
jonnyb:)
should add an "in stock" checkbox too but can't find room ;) 		[14:22]
chibaguyIt's fun to play with the checkboxes ;-) . [14:23]
jonnybjonnyb is currently having fun with smarty which seems to think that "2 eq 0" is true somehow [14:24]
chibaguyHmm, that would be an aspect of 2 I hadn't considered before. ;-) [14:24]
jonnybit's in a smarty tpl used in a list plugin (trying to work out if stuff is in stock) - really odd! [14:26]
chibaguyYou know, about the search page, I think Tiki's standard tiki-searchindex.php is way too "techy". "Lookup" and "Deep search" - what are these terms for normal users?
Why is there both a "Lookup" link and a "Search" button, etc.? 		[14:28]
jonnybyes, it frightens normal people
needs designing (from a ui point of view) 		[14:29]
JyhemPolom
Jyhem likes http://otaku.com:2012 		[14:30]
chibaguyYep. Your otaku search is dreamy in comparison.
(I mean that in a good way.) 		[14:30]
jonnybhi Jyhem - thanks
i'm rather pleased with it in general 		[14:30]
JyhemAre these real tiki categories ?
Jyhem was about to give up on categories for tracker items 		[14:31]
jonnybno, it just a tracker number field as it has to sync with their existing back-end
so it's a "linked" tracker i guess 		[14:31]
JyhemYes, but with a numeric field, I guess [14:32]
jonnybyes, and some funky stuff mapping from the original id to the tracker itemId's [14:32]
JyhemOK :-) [14:33]
jonnybthe theory is the whole tracker thing can be rebuilt from their back-end, so all the itemIds can change [14:33]
JyhemJyhem shudders [14:34]
jonnybwhich makes keeping track of the user votes might be tricky - expecting a few bugs in there when it really comes to it [14:34]
chibaguychibaguy 's eyes glaze over... [14:34]
JyhemI can see why this import script took so long: it's not a one-shot import thing. It's a permanent feature [14:34]
jonnybindeed - been a few months so far
but not a million kms from your big project i guess? 		[14:35]
JyhemI have the suspicion the category field has strange interferences with permissions :-( I mean, the use case is unclear
Is http://otaku.com:2012 monolingual ? 		[14:38]
jonnybyes, but with occasional bits in Japanese (like product titles)
sadly Japanese doesn't seem to work in the search :(
meaning ask LP about it sometime, probably needs indexing differently 		[14:42]
Jyhemare you utf8-unicode_ci ?
Jyhem knows no japanese, but hought search might work 		[14:46]
chibaguyEntering some Japanese text seems to produce unrelated results.
Or actually the same results as I get by clicking the search button with an empty text box. 		[14:48]
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jonnybindeed - it's ignored :( [14:57]
chibaguyOne point: on my 1240 x 768 laptop screen, on an item description page, with the thumbnails down below the description text, it's hard to get the main image and the thumbnails both in the window. Seems like it'd be better if the thumbs were directly below the large image.
http://otaku.com:2012/products/26282 for example.
Also some odd jumpiness on http://otaku.com:2012/products/29431 as I guess the browser tries to accomodate changing mouse focus.
(This is with Windows/Opera.) 		[15:08]
JyhemJyhem just won a book on Wordpress :-) [15:28]
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jonnyb:D Jyhem!
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Jyhemchibaguy: I think something needs correcting in the design.css in 9.x
Get on http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-admin.php?page=performance and see how the .tabactive {border-style:solid solid none;} causes the active tab to be larger than the others and pushes the lower line of tabs :-( 		[16:01]
jonnybthat looks like bad css
hmm, maybe not... 		[16:10]
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jonnybseems to be because both .tabmark and .tabmark a get borders applied [16:17]
chibaguyHeh, in Fivealive at that site, I have an almost-black page background. I wonder where that's coming from.
The tabs look ok to me, in Opera anyway. 		[16:17]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41282 10/branches/9.x/styles/jqui.css: [FIX] css: Remove unit from line-height definition as it fails on large font sizes [16:19]
chibaguyThere must be a browser-specific difference.
Anyway, I need to go but will be checking on that. 		[16:20]
Jyhemchibaguy_away: it's ok in fivealive. Issue is with eatlon.css and probably others [16:27]
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jonnybok, here's a goodie - i'm adding a note to doc.t.o and want to have no-parse tags showing - how do you do that? [17:00]
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Hey, anyone know what else I can check for a "Tiki is unable to connect to the database" message? It suddenly stopped working. I verified that the webhost is able to connect to the DB and run queries with the credentials given.
I also restarted apache for good measure.
Er... never mind. It seems to have resolved itself... weird... 		[17:26]
jonnybweird indeed d6chung - these things can happen
i have a theory (only) that php leaks memory and after it's been running for a long time (weeks) bad things can start to happen 		[17:36]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r41283 10/branches/9.x/templates/trackerinput/dropdown.tpl: [FIX] Don't handle 0 like null [17:37]
changi|workjonnyb: hi
jonnyb: i've got an issue with you commit n°41266, when you have wysiwyg activate but your are not using it on a page that contain a maketoc, everything get transform to html 		[17:48]
jonnybfew mins pls changi|work [17:52]
changi|workjonnyb: no problem it's not urgent, just i've noticed that [17:53]
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jonnybok, back changi|work - checking 41266
that maketoc code is pretty ropey - sounds like $need_maketoc doesn't get set
also it should be testing the page, not the prefs - will get on it... 		[18:10]
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nkoth|nelsonjonnyb: i have one encoding issue related to search formatter in Tiki 9.... wondering if you have a clue [18:29]
jonnybhi nkoth|nelson - maybe, been rummaging in there today already
(trying to work out why '2 eq 0' was true in my smarty {list} tpls) 		[18:30]
nkoth|nelsonin lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter/Categorylist.php it generates a bunch of HTML and then puts it in ~np~ ~/np~ before sending it backout to the plugin
it is the same with Trackerrender.php but I haven't tried that one yet 		[18:31]
jonnybeverything seems to get wrapped in ~/np~ [18:31]
nkoth|nelsonFor me, I get encoded HTML in the end [18:32]
jonnybyou have an example somewhere? [18:32]
nkoth|nelsonok I'll email it to you
sent 		[18:33]
jonnybjonnyb checks [18:35]
Jyhemjonnyb: I lost a lot of trust in smarty's "eq" when I discovered that "0" eq "" :-(
"0" === "" did it
Jyhem nearly reused the old shellscript tricks like "x0" eq "x" :-) 		[18:35]
jonnybit was due to these ~np~ tags round everything in the end [18:37]
nkoth|nelsonI did try without the ~np~, it does not help...
the formatted output bubbles up into the plugin which is then handled by the parser, right? 		[18:38]
jonnybthink so, yes [18:39]
nkoth|nelsonstuff in ~np~ is encoded as well then unless it is html?
anyway, that's as far as I got. 		[18:40]
jonnybisn't there a "mode=raw" option for FORMAT?
didn't used to be needed but i found i had to add them (pre all this encoding stuff) 		[18:40]
nkoth|nelsonI'll try [18:41]
jonnybthat page is a wysiwyg one too, might be not helping (getting " all over the place) [18:42]
nkoth|nelsonmaybe it's just mode=raw
but I am using the smarty formatting
the mode==raw goes in column?
what does mode=raw do? simple thmldecodes? 		[18:42]
jonnybin {display} i think, but can't find one now
it tells the formatter that it's raw html
ah, you're right - it's for the table.tpl output & goes in column, so not relevant here 		[18:45]
nkoth|nelsonthe thing is this is the first time I am trying this in a tiki9, so I don't know how long has the problem been there [18:46]
jonnybi have quite a few trackerrender fields working ok, should be the same
might need a fix in categorylist 		[18:47]
nkoth|nelsonbut if you are using column mode=raw maybe that "solves it" [18:48]
jonnybhave to pop out for a while, bbl [18:48]
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nkoth|nelson: no, my stuff is all in external smarty tpls, no {column}s 		[19:19]
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jonnybchangi|work: i still can reproduce this maketoc happening when not needed error - any more clues? [19:25]
eromnegjonnyb: Hi - are we still planning to do the alpha this week? [19:35]
jonnybdone i think, no changi|work ? [19:35]
eromnegok - I can see it on Sourceforge now - cheers [19:37]
changi|workjonnyb: yes it is
jonnyb: about the wysiwyg issue i will do it on trunkdoc 		[19:50]
jonnybta [19:51]
changi|homehttp://trunkdoc.tiki.org/PluginList
just have a look, you will understand
i just activate wysiwyg
i don't use it to edit
jonnyb: ! 		[19:54]
jonnybah right, so non html pages with maketoc in but with wysiwyg on [19:55]
changi|homejonnyb: yes
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41284 10/trunk/lib/ (videogals/kalturalib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_kaltura.php): [ENH] kaltura: Player drop-down and size params for kaltura plugin (uses the player default size if not specified). [20:37]
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41285 10/trunk/tiki-kaltura_video.php: [FIX] kaltura: Exception if media not found [20:42]
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r41286 10/trunk/lib/prefs/ids.php: PHPIDS was only supposed to log and not block (at first). Turning off by default temporarily because too many things are blocked [20:49]
changi|homechangi|home back
jonnyb: did you see it ? 		[20:57]
jonnybyes, on something else just now (and off out soon) [20:58]
changi|homejonnyb: ok [20:58]
jonnybthink i have a fix but found some other bugs on the way
adding && $options['is_html'] to the condition on line 2069 of parserlib
but it seems once you do allowHtml on a wiki page you can't turn it off :(
the pref checks should go as well i think (maybe) 		[20:58]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41287 10/trunk/lib/ (videogals/kalturalib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_kaltura.php): [FIX] kaltura: Fail more politely if kaltura session has not been established (for instance after clearing caches) [21:12]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Dringend - Problem mit dem WYSIWYG Editor - Version 9.x - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=43951 [21:32]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03chealer * r41288 10/branches/9.x/installer/shell.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class Cachelib in [...]/lib/cache/cachelib.php on line 20
tikiwiki: oops, r41281 regression 		[21:40]
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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r41289 10/branches/8.x/tiki-calendars_rss.php:
tikiwiki: [bp/r41183 and 41185] [FIX] Category permissions not checked for calendar RSS
tikiwiki: feed and Using the same validation as in tiki-calendar.php Thank you
tikiwiki: Louis-Philippe Huberdeau and Philippe Dallaire Fixes
tikiwiki: http://dev.tiki.org/wish1372 reported by ibob 		[21:57]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03chealer * r41290 10/branches/9.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix outdated/unparseable comments [22:36]
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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r41291 10/branches/6.x/tiki-calendars_rss.php:
tikiwiki: [bp/r41183 and 41185] [FIX] Category permissions not checked for calendar RSS
tikiwiki: feed and Using the same validation as in tiki-calendar.php Thank you
tikiwiki: Louis-Philippe Huberdeau and Philippe Dallaire Fixes
tikiwiki: http://dev.tiki.org/wish1372 reported by ibob 		[23:05]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Permission error when using a token to access a wiki page - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=43952 [23:32]
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