[00:18] * Jyhem wonders about the difference between "complete" and "relaxed" wiki links
[00:59] sylvieg is there a function that says with feature a perm is associated to?
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[08:41] xavi polom
[08:42] xavi any tiki css guru around at this time of the day?
[08:42] * xavi willing to addsome "overflow" at the right place with the simile timeline plugin....
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[09:46] * Jyhem wonders about the difference between "complete" and "relaxed" wiki links. It does not seem to be documented anywhere
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[10:19] xavi hi Jyhem. no idea about that, sorry
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[10:34] changi|work polom
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[11:33] xavi hi changi|work
[11:33] xavi Jyhem, the third post in the series about big data and R + Html5, etc.
[11:33] xavi http://allthingsr.blogspot.com.es/2012/05/big-data-r-and-sap-hana-analyze-200.html
[11:35] xavi ^this post will show you some code in R to export huge data  in json or csv, etc. for display with any other ways (tiki trackers, spreadsheets, or other things I don't know).   I nthe example they used googlemaps and HTML5/D3
[11:35] xavi fyi (for CoE, if you need it)
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[12:01] jonnyb Vote for polom!
[12:07] D21 Hello all, Not really sure if this is the right place but here is my question: Is there anyway to make multiple leveled forums on a tikiwiki site?
[12:11] xavi hi jonnyb
[12:11] jonnyb hi xavi
[12:11] xavi D21: expand your question
[12:11] xavi "multiple levelled forums"?
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[12:12] fabricius polom
[12:12] fabricius has anyone experience with cPanel especially with HostGator?
[12:12] jonnyb hey fabricius too! polom all round
[12:13] jonnyb i have a client with a dedicated server on HostGator, but no direct interaction with them - seems to work
[12:14] xavi jonnyb: quick css question for you about simile timeline. how can I add overflow for the window with the data, not the data? Example: http://ueb.vhir.org/Simile
[12:14] fabricius I nee to point the one and only domain (main domain??) to another folder than public_html ... to a subfolder of it -> public_html/tikiwebsites/domain/tikiversion
[12:14] xavi for the window with the tracker data,  not the dates lower area, I mean
[12:15] fabricius I find the dialogue for so called 'addondomains' but I am stuck in how to do it with the original main domain
[12:15] xavi no idea, fabricius. dod you google for it?
[12:15] fabricius maybe I am just not familiar  in how cPanel or Hostgator call things
[12:15] xavi cpanel is kind of common...
[12:15] fabricius I checked the documantation
[12:16] jonnyb sure that's possible in cpanel fabricius, but can't remember where it is now
[12:18] jonnyb xavi: doesn't seem to be open for anon, but something like overflow:auto on #main or #tiki-center or something probably
[12:19] xavi brr, you are right, I'll re-open the page...
[12:19] xavi I managed to set overflow:auto but  then everything was scrollable, not just the higher area with data
[12:19] xavi hold on....
[12:23] jonnyb fabricius: this page seems to say it's not easy - http://mosmostech.com/2011/12/changing-a-cpanel-document-root-docroot/
[12:23] xavi jonnyb: http://ueb.vhir.org/tiki-index.php?page=Simile&refresh=1
[12:23] jonnyb which seems odd
[12:25] xavi jonnyb, I've added: #ttl_timeline {  height:500px !important; } and
[12:25] jonnyb xavi: that's odd - are you dsetting a width on it somewhere?
[12:25] xavi .timeline-band-layer-inner {  	overflow:auto; }
[12:25] jonnyb in the plugin code?
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[12:26] xavi in custom css (Admin l & F ...)
[12:26] chibaguy polom
[12:26] D21 Multiple leveled forums: as in you have the main (outer) forum showing all the forums and when you click on one it shows you all the topics in that forum, but above the topics I would like to add a couple more (sub) foums
[12:26] xavi hi chibaguy
[12:26] chibaguy hi xavi
[12:26] jonnyb hi chibaguy
[12:26] chibaguy hi jonnyb
[12:26] xavi jonnyb: and the code for that time line is: {trackertimeline tracker="5" title="224" summary="226" start="289" end="235" group="227" lower="2012-01-01 05:00:00" upper="2012-01-31 22:00:00" scale1="day" scale2="week" link_group="n" simile_timeline="y"}
[12:27] jonnyb xavi: i can't work out why the timeline's so wide to begin with, never seen that before
[12:27] jonnyb looks ok
[12:27] xavi height hardcoded: #ttl_timeline {  height:500px !important; }
[12:28] fabricius jonnyb: *reading* thx
[12:28] jonnyb height should be irrelevant
[12:28] xavi otherwise, this area is too narrow for real data. the height, imho, should be expandable depending on the amount of data top display
[12:30] fabricius jonnyb: not it ... will have to google, thxanyway
[12:30] jonnyb xavi: why did you do .timeline-band-layer-inner {  overflow:auto; } ? it doesn't seem to appear in the dom for me but i do get a horiz scrollbar
[12:31] jonnyb by the way, what exactly do you think is wrong with this? seems fine to me :)
[12:31] xavi line trackertimeline with simile_timeline="n", which is displayed here: http://ueb.vhir.org/Gantt
[12:31] * jonnyb cringes at the entity encoding errors!
[12:31] xavi jonnyb, see the same data displayed with simile_timeline="n" ^
[12:32] xavi that is the "wrong part": not all data are displayed
[12:32] xavi that's why we need either self-expand height, to fit all data to be displayed, or at least, vertical scroll bars
[12:33] xavi for the data window, not the date horizontal bar
[12:33] jonnyb oh right, was on the wrong axis! :)
[12:33] xavi :-)
[12:35] xavi and the other question (feature limitation?): can you use two simile_timeline in the same wiki page? (I can't right now, it seems)
[12:36] jonnyb sorry, not tried that
[12:36] jonnyb do they do that on the demo sites anywhere?
[12:37] jonnyb this height thing is hard - maybe needs to be done in the javascript (setup params)
[12:38] xavi ok, I'll do a quick test on trunkdev, maybe. does it work for you?
[12:38] xavi ^do you have access to the trunkdev (with tracker data) site if you need it ?
[12:39] xavi oh well, never mind. I can replicate some tracker and data on demo.t.o/tiki9
[12:39] jonnyb ok, yes xavi, it's in /lib/simile_tiki/tiki-timeline.js - lines 73 and 82 define the split of upper and lower, this needs to be made a parameter, but you could hack yours to test
[12:39] xavi which is going to be easier for you to see, and play with the code if needed, etc
[12:39] xavi ok, testing (thanks jonnyb )
[12:40] jonnyb xavi: if you have some time (ha ha ha!) i have the beginnings of the TikiFest timeline  which should go on tiki.org some time, i could send the files/
[12:40] jonnyb 
[12:41] xavi yes, jonnyb, I'll see what I can do it I have the files (and in  afew weeks I hope to have some time available :-) )
[12:42] xavi if I don't have the files, I can't do anything, no matter how much free time I have :-)
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[12:47] xavi oh well, jonnyb, that part is setting just the percentage of the window to  he higher and lower portions
[12:48] xavi but what tiki needs is a way to indicate that the whole window is as big as needed to display all data
[12:48] xavi of add vertical scroll bars
[12:48] ricks99 polom y'all
[12:48] xavi ok, I'll google for vertical scroll bars ..
[12:48] xavi hi ricks99
[12:48] jonnyb but then you could set the height of the out div, no xavi?
[12:48] jonnyb hi ricks99
[12:48] xavi set: how? css?
[12:49] xavi right now, I did set that hardcoded in admin l&F > custom css
[12:49] xavi but simile timeline in the same tiki site, used to display other data sources, might need less or much more...
[12:49] jonnyb seems hardcoded in /lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackertimeline.php line 291
[12:49] jonnyb should be a param
[12:49] xavi yes, jonny, I saw that
[12:50] xavi and changed that in my tiki site to be a param
[12:50] xavi probably I haven't commited that yet, since it's not finished
[12:50] jonnyb ok yes, override in css should work no?
[12:50] xavi or did I commit it ?
[12:50] xavi yes, overrride in css works, but hardcoded for the whole tiki site?
[12:50] xavi that's what is defective design,  imho
[12:51] xavi so at least, vertical scroll bars would do
[12:51] jonnyb it's hard-coded in 9.x
[12:52] jonnyb height and lower_band_height (as a percentage) should be params
[12:53] xavi ok, without touching tiki's code, this custom css resizes it: #ttl_timeline {  height:500px !important; }
[12:53] xavi but as hardcoded
[12:54] xavi hardcoded in custom css: not adapted to the size of data to display
[12:55] xavi maybe overflow-y:scroll would do?
[12:55] * xavi testing
[12:57] xavi nope :-/
[13:04] jonnyb xavi: as i said i think you need to change the % of the band heights in the js, then set the height bigger
[13:05] xavi jonnyb: I don't get it: set the % like? currently it says:
[13:05] xavi width:            scale2 === "" ? "100%" : "70%",
[13:06] xavi ^in /lib/simile_tiki/tiki-timeline.js - line 73
[13:07] xavi brb
[13:07] jonnyb that means if scale2 (the lower band) is empty use 100%, if not use 70%
[13:08] xavi ok, then as I thought, changing percentages would not afect
[13:09] xavi since we want the absolute size of the simile timeline to be higher, to show all data points
[13:09] xavi and as far as I understand, changing those % would not affect the absolute height of the simile timeline
[13:09] jonnyb thought you had changed the height?
[13:10] xavi jonnyb: we need the height to be set to whatever number is needed (500px is not enough) in each call to timeline plugin
[13:10] xavi like what is achieved when we say simile_timeline=n
[13:10] xavi example: http://ueb.vhir.org/Gantt
[13:10] jonnyb saw that yes
[13:11] jonnyb so what happens if you tell it to be more than 500px?
[13:11] xavi this gantt page, is using the same code as the page which says "simile", with the only difference that the param simile_timeline="n"
[13:11] xavi >500px: it will display more data
[13:11] xavi for this case, maybe I'll need 1000px?
[13:11] xavi but what it in another page simile timeline needs just 300 px?
[13:11] jonnyb so adding those new params would do it?
[13:12] xavi yes, but param for the height set as "auto" if possible, and if not, at least, let the user choose by hand how many pixel of height
[13:13] xavi in my case, I thought that all data was displayed, until I saw the same page with "simile_timeline = n"
[13:15] jonnyb currently trying to work out why tracker import (or export) is broken
[13:15] xavi ok
[13:15] * xavi back to other things
[13:16] jonnyb was going to just send the files over to you ;)
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[13:25] ricks99 sf reports 70+ downloads of 8.4. is it ok to announce? my install tests seem fine
[13:25] ricks99 anyone see issues with 8.4?
[13:26] jonnyb is that what's running on tiki.org?
[13:27] jonnyb cos tracker import seems to be failing for me :(
[13:27] ricks99 says svn pre 8.4
[13:27] jonnyb i've imported 44 items but the don't show up
[13:27] ricks99 i'll send note to dev list for confirmation
[13:34] jonnyb blimey! finally - https://tiki.org/TikiFest+Timeline
[13:37] jonnyb xavi, i'll try and get back to your timeline thing later...
[13:37] jonnyb bbl
[13:40] fidel_ hi - is there a plan to make the tiki-calendars accessible from classic cal apps via i.e. caldav or similar? if so - with what tiki version?
[13:41] fidel_ right now 8.3 offers just a download - which is nice for sure- but not that practical for real daily cal-usage
[13:46] jonnyb there are wishes, but no plan fidel_ as far as i know
[13:46] ricks99 you can export to ical format and rss
[13:46] ricks99 then import into most calendar apps
[13:48] fidel_ ricks99: i know we can download and then import - but thats not really useable - at least i ncase the cal gets updated on the wiki side again
[13:49] fidel_ which would mean that all users would need to download & import the cal daily to the local cal-apps ;)
[13:49] fidel_ ok - so tiki9 will for sure not include any kind of syncable cal. thanks for the replies
[13:51] ricks99 rss
[13:52] ricks99 in the past, ive used an online rss-o-ical converter, so that the ical feed is always up-to-date
[13:52] ricks99 then simply import the ical feed
[13:54] fidel_ not really an option either for hosts without network access. not searching a hack anyways . i was just wondering if there is a plan in the nearer future (9/10) to add such a function or not
[13:54] fidel_ *network/internet*
[13:55] jonnyb caldav would be best
[13:55] fidel_ it would add a major core-function from my point of view
[13:55] ricks99 +1
[13:56] fidel_ what a pity - well lets surprise if it comes with any not so near version ;)
[13:58] chibaguy bbl
[14:04] fidel_ just to be sure: ricks99 jonnyb - are you project-devs or users as me? or in other words: sure about the fact that caldav or similar support will not come in the next 2 releases?
[14:04] jonnyb i'm mainly a dev but user too
[14:05] ricks99 im mainly a user, but a dev too
[14:06] ricks99 you can see http://dev.tiki.org/tiki10 for details about whats i n10
[14:06] jonnyb we need to change the webdav library we have now, and that should add caldav support too
[14:06] jonnyb it's probably a few days work (i.e. not totally trivial)
[14:07] D21 Sorry to be off topic from you guys but I just have some questions about the tiki-forum system.
[14:08] D21 Is it possible using the tiki-forum sytem to make a sub-forum in a sub-forum in a sub-form in the forum? (Hope that makes sense)
[14:09] ricks99 D21: there's not a concept of "sub" forums. you can organize forum "breaks" (as shown on http://tiki.org/forums)
[14:10] ricks99 an alternative is to use cateogries to organize the forums. then present the list of cateogries (which support unlimited "sub"categories) to users, prior to selecting a forum
[14:12] D21 Okay thanks, I will give categories another attemp
[14:15] fidel_ ok thanks to both of you. according to the 9 and 10 plans i dont see webdav mentioned. so my assumption not coming in the near future seems correct
[14:17] ricks99 zend ical, caldev/sabredav are on the "todo" list, but no set date.
[14:17] ricks99 pls see http://dev.tiki.org/Calendar
[14:25] fidel_ thanks
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[15:13] xavi back
[15:13] xavi fidel_:  see pm
[15:13] jonnyb i'm off! :)
[15:13] jonnyb bbl
[15:15] xavi rodrigoprimo: ?
[15:15] rodrigoprimo hi xavi
[15:15] xavi hi rodrigo :-)
[15:16] xavi I'm using tiki90 at work (production) and we are testing the daily reports there
[15:16] xavi I've noticed that emails from new or modified calendar items (from group watches) come out of the daily report
[15:17] xavi if easy to fix, could you guide me on where I need to look to fix it? (so that I learn how to fix and extend, maybe) the actions that need being included in teh daily report?
[15:18] xavi rodrigoprimo: false alarm, no worries. human error (I was getting the emails from anotehr test user that I have with an alias email)
[15:18] xavi rodrigoprimo: sorry for the "false positive" report
[15:19] rodrigoprimo xavi: ok :)
[15:19] xavi but anyway: rodrigoprimo, another similar thing for my request: I noticed that I edited a page yesterday and I ended up deleting the page at the end. The page deletion didn't come in the daily report
[15:20] fidel_ xavi: got it
[15:20] xavi again, what should I look for when checking the code to see that everything is working as expected (an email is set in the queue, etc)?
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[15:21] RobertPlummer polom all
[15:22] xavi hi RobertPlummer
[15:22] xavi rodrigoprimo: I mean I recall receiving emails in 6x (or earlier) when a page was deleted
[15:23] xavi but I don't recall them in tiki9
[15:23] xavi (not sure yet, too early to know for sure, and so many degrees of freedom in my tests)
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[15:42] rodrigoprimo xavi: to check if daily reports is being used make sure that the function ReportsManager::addToCache() is called
[15:44] xavi ok, thnks for the info, rodrigoprimo
[15:44] * xavi grepping for addToCache
[15:47] xavi ok, rodrigoprimo :-), I think I'm moving forward. I found in lib/tikilib.php line 2553:
[15:47] xavi sendWikiEmailNotification('wiki_page_deleted', $page, $user, $comment, 1, $page_info['data'], $machine);
[15:47] xavi but I can't find in that php file, any reference to addToCache
[15:48] xavi for the uses of addToCache elsewehere, I should add something in line 2554 or similar, regarding addToCache...
[15:48] * xavi guessing the syntax to add
[15:55] rodrigoprimo xavi: the call to addToCache is inside sendWikiEmailNotification
[15:56] xavi ah, ok, ....
[16:01] xavi rodrigo, I confirm that page edition send email notification. page deletion doesn't
[16:02] xavi where could the bug be?
[16:02] * xavi investigating...
[16:02] xavi I mean, the problem is not with daily report, but with the user watch not working for page deletion (at least)
[16:05] rodrigoprimo xavi: are you familiar with debugging php with xdebug?
[16:05] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r41294 10/branches/9.x/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Add daterange filter interface for customsearch
[16:05] rodrigoprimo xavi: this is probably the easiest way to find where is the problem
[16:05] xavi he he, no, but i need to learn once and for all :-)
[16:05] xavi can you guide me (voice with skype?)
[16:08] xavi rodrigoprimo: which app are you using to debug with xdebug?
[16:08] xavi I can install that in my computer... (you were using debian-based distro, like me, weren't you? :-)
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[16:11] rodrigoprimo xavi: I'm using aptana. note that only versions 2.x or 3.2, the development release, support xdebug. the current version of the 3.x does not have xdebug support.
[16:11] rodrigoprimo xavi: eclipse or netbeans are good options as well
[16:11] xavi ok, eclipse installed already...
[16:11] rodrigoprimo xavi: yes, I'm running ubuntu 11.10
[16:11] xavi checking....
[16:11] rodrigoprimo xavi: there are plenty of good tutorials guiding you to install xdebug in ubuntu with eclipse
[16:12] xavi ok thanks, I'll do so, thanks for pointers
[16:12] xavi and I'll ask again when needed :-)
[16:12] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41295 10/third_party/jquery/jtrack/js/domcached-0.1-jquery.js:
[16:12] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [FIX] Call to an undefined function jQuery.evalJSON, I fixed and submitted a patch here: http://code.google.com/p/jtrack/issues/detail?id=1&thanks=1&ts=1336054163
[16:12] CIA-36 tikiwiki: Hopefully it will be updated the next go around.
[16:12] rodrigoprimo xavi: sure :)
[16:14] jonnyb hi rodrigoprimo and xavi
[16:14] rodrigoprimo hi jonnyb
[16:14] xavi hi jonnyb
[16:15] jonnyb by far the best IDE out there for php dev is phpStorm - wins by about a million miles
[16:16] jonnyb and i believe changi|work managed to get us a license for it, yes? (i paid for mine for the past 2 years but happy - i tried to get them to give us a license but they refused me twice)
[16:19] rodrigoprimo jonnyb: I will give it a try
[16:28] jonnyb RobertPlummer: you there?
[16:28] RobertPlummer I am
[16:28] RobertPlummer polom jonnyb
[16:29] * jonnyb was just wondering what the state of the 9.x branch now that the alpha is out
[16:29] jonnyb like surely we should be into a feature freeze by now, no?
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[16:30] RobertPlummer The converter is fixed as far as I can tell.
[16:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Why do you ask?
[16:30] RobertPlummer *hopes he didn't violate any freeze*
[16:31] jonnyb no, not you - two [ENH] commits already this month
[16:32] jonnyb 40 (approx) since we branched, and a few [NEW] ones
[16:33] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I saw that, made me uncomfortable.
[16:33] RobertPlummer I didn't know if they were fixes as new items or what.
[16:34] RobertPlummer I know I know, I need to be the bad guy at times.
[16:34] jonnyb i'm just checking out Nelson's one to custom search as i know it quite well, but maybe a slightly stern email to the dev list saying further ones will be rolled back
[16:35] jonnyb there's a lot of new stuff coming in (new params etc), also refactoring and fixes of unnecessary (imho) notices etc
[16:35] RobertPlummer ok
[16:36] jonnyb it's not being a "bad guy" - just managing the release process otherwise either 9.0 will go out unusable (bad) or never (worse)
[16:37] jonnyb i'm sure everyone will support you - we all just want to get one last little thing in For A Good Reason, but we should all wait a week or two and put it in for 9.1
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[17:00] Trebly <jonnyb> Hi, how are you. I am ending a curious job : set fine the image galleries with a 8.3+ quite ended with enhancements (waiting for a tested and stabilized 9.0). I found a lot of problems. I will test if they are solved in 9.0 (no time till now).
[17:00] Trebly Please do you know Where there is a document in tiki doc which describes the classes and inherit structure ?
[17:02] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r41296 10/branches/9.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Add daterange filter interface for customsearch (part 2)
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[17:24] xavi RobertPlummer: quick css question for jquery.s5...
[17:24] RobertPlummer yes
[17:24] xavi how can I add some more line spacing between items in a list?
[17:24] nkoth|nelson sorry, I  shd wait for 9.1, alpha is out right.... i was trying to rush it in before that
[17:24] xavi example:
[17:24] xavi http://ueb.vhir.org/show:2012-05-04+Xavier+de+Pedro+Tiki+Seminar#s2
[17:24] xavi it's from a seminar I'm presenting tomorrow in our reseach institute
[17:24] RobertPlummer ok
[17:25] jonnyb hi nkoth|nelson - naughty indeed, but i'm just trying to test it here now (before i update my client's site)
[17:25] xavi RobertPlummer: I tried #s5-size-detector {	line-height: 250% ! important; }
[17:25] xavi but it's not the solution, it seems
[17:25] RobertPlummer xavi what are you trying to accomplish?
[17:25] xavi "line spacing"
[17:26] xavi get more space between each line (or each item) in the list
[17:26] RobertPlummer body * {line-height: 2em ! important;} doesn't work?
[17:26] xavi ok, trying
[17:26] * xavi newbie in css still, that's why those (probably) easy questions
[17:28] RobertPlummer xavi, beautiful presentation by the way.
[17:28] xavi RobertPlummer: thanks, but btw, I want more line spacing just in the jquery.s5 presentation :-)
[17:28] xavi not everywhere like with your body * :-)
[17:29] RobertPlummer xavi, would you like to be added to the s5 committers?
[17:29] xavi how do I say, body only in jquery.s5?
[17:29] xavi s5 committers: as you wish
[17:29] RobertPlummer .s5-slide {line-height: 2em ! important}
[17:29] xavi ok
[17:30] jonnyb hmm, nkoth|nelson - date range seems to have totally locked up my localhost (but date ranges on my 12,000 items was always very very slow, might just have broken Lucene)
[17:31] RobertPlummer xavi: Have a gmail account?
[17:31] xavi RobertPlummer: I don't check it, and I don't want to rely on it :-/
[17:31] nkoth|nelson jonnyb: the stuff I added shouldn't affect any existing flows
[17:31] RobertPlummer xavi, I need it for access to s5 I think
[17:32] jonnyb no indeed, everything else seems fine
[17:32] xavi RobertPlummer:  .s5-slide {line-height: 1.5em ! important;} didn't work for me
[17:32] jonnyb i just wanted to play with it! :)
[17:32] RobertPlummer .s5-slide * {line-height: 1.5em ! important;}
[17:32] RobertPlummer xavi try that, sorry
[17:32] RobertPlummer forgot ampersand
[17:32] nkoth|nelson jonnyb: I see. so the search is really slow.
[17:33] xavi RobertPlummer: gmail account, then don't worry, don't add me to it, if you can only add me with a gmail account (I don't want to be forced to use gmail accounts or google services... if not necessary)
[17:33] nkoth|nelson it is pretty slow and is limited to 1000 unique dates in between because of a End lucene default as well
[17:33] nkoth|nelson but that was a problem that already existed before
[17:33] jonnyb understood
[17:34] jonnyb yes, the request timed out
[17:34] RobertPlummer xavi: I put in xavi@tiki.org and IT CHANGED IT AUTOMATICALLY!
[17:35] RobertPlummer to xavidp@gmail.com
[17:35] xavi RobertPlummer: wohooo, nicely added some spacing everywhere in the slides with your css trick :-)
[17:35] jonnyb nkoth|nelson: anyway, must get on - confirmed no regression there i can see
[17:35] RobertPlummer *waves hands and chants "ooga booga"*
[17:35] xavi :)
[17:35] RobertPlummer jk
[17:36] xavi RobertPlummer: and if only some spacing between items in ordered or unordered lists?
[17:37] xavi I mean, for instance, only between bullet points in the slide, and not betwen the lines of the same bullet point (line wrapping, etc). like here: http://ueb.vhir.org/show:2012-05-04+Xavier+de+Pedro+Tiki+Seminar#s2
[17:38] RobertPlummer .s5-slide * li {padding-bottom: 2em ! important;}
[17:38] RobertPlummer (maybe)
[17:38] xavi RobertPlummer: thanks, I'll paly with it, thanks for pointers and code samples
[17:38] xavi I'll add them to the doc page of slideshow :-)
[17:39] jonnyb nkoth|nelson: for tiki 10 (maybe 9.1) i'd like to change how customsearch saves it's state (from session to url hash) which will be more scalable and allow users to use their back buttons to navigate, what do you think?
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[17:41] jonnyb i also plan to add an automagic mode for pagination to append the next page when you scroll to the bottom like facebook et al
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[17:50] xavi RobertPlummer: I'll add those 2 fixes of spacing for items in layout.css in 9.x in order to make them fixed in 9.0 (unless someone is against about it)
[17:50] xavi .s5-slide * li {padding-top: 0.3em ! important; padding-bottom: 0.3em ! important;}
[17:50] RobertPlummer fine with me
[17:50] xavi ^this is better default values (a "fix" for me)
[17:50] xavi ok, there I go...
[17:51] xavi Robert, do I need the !important part if they are commited to layour.css in tiki9?
[17:51] xavi RobertPlummer: ^
[17:51] xavi s/layour.css/layout.css
[17:52] RobertPlummer test without if possible.
[17:52] xavi ok
[17:53] nkoth|nelson jonnyb: sounds good. If there are multiple custom search is still keeps the distinction right? BTW, I was wondering why the Services are in Services/Tracker, I meann it can potentially be used even without tracker
[17:54] jonnyb with different identifiers?
[17:54] jonnyb should be fine
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[17:55] jonnyb i'll also add a way to change the prefix from customsearch_ (makes ever so long urls!)
[17:56] xavi good witout !important
[17:56] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41297 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [FIX] maketoc: Fix html mangling on wiki pages when wysiwyg enabled but testing for the parse option is_html rather than the prefs (thanks changi)
[18:00] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41298 10/branches/9.x/lib/setup/editmode.php: [FIX] allowhtml: Let the allow html checkbox to be saved unchecked for wiki or htmltowiki pages
[18:01] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r41299 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-view_tracker.tpl: [FIX] It sent users on the wrong tab
[18:02] rakwa hello! does anyone know how tikiwiki stores its structures? is there a file on the server which is similar to the page tree? or is it all stored in the DB?
[18:04] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41300 10/branches/9.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX]Spacing between items in jquery.s5 lists (ugly reading without them as default values)
[18:04] changi|work rakwa: it's in DB
[18:04] changi|work jonnyb: thx for the fix
[18:05] rakwa changi: thanks!
[18:05] changi|away rakwa: tiki_structures
[18:06] rakwa awesome, thanks!
[18:13] xavi RobertPlummer: see pm
[18:38] xavi ok, I run out of time for today. cheers
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[18:42] nkoth|nelson jonnyb: should i be waiting also for commites of new features into trunk?
[18:42] jonnyb nkoth|nelson: sorry - how do you mean?
[18:43] nkoth|nelson I ahve some new features and enhancements, kind of raw stuff. I had meant them to be committed into trunk
[18:43] jonnyb 9.0 alpha was released a few days ago, so only fixes should be committed in 9.x until 9.0 is release
[18:44] nkoth|nelson what abt trunk?
[18:44] jonnyb trunk is fine, but try not to move stuff around too much as we're merging from 9.x (until 9.1)
[18:44] jonnyb so no big refactoring etc for a while pls
[18:45] jonnyb (unless it's really vital of course)
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[19:49] RobertPlummer xavi, just fixed timesheet, waiting on my svn to commit.
[19:49] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41303 10/branches/9.x/tiki-timesheet.php: [FIX] Forgot to remove debugging stuff
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[20:05] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41305 10/branches/9.x/tiki-timesheet.php: [FIX] Handle error, display to user
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[20:13] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [FIX] search: exit with an error code (1) and raise log level to err when
[20:13] CIA-36 tikiwiki: processing can't continue due to rebuild already occurring, as usually this
[20:13] CIA-36 tikiwiki: means the previous rebuild failed and the unified-index-new dir has been left
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[21:02] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Probleme mit dem Internetexplorer 8 - CKEditor Konfiguration - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=43955
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[21:22] nkoth|nelson anyone knows where can I find the rules for those filters for plugins parameters? e.g. digits?
[21:22] nkoth|nelson digits does not support negative  numbers and I need that...
[21:22] jonnyb TikiFilter i think
[21:22] jonnyb int should be ok for negatives, no?
[21:23] nkoth|nelson it's digits right now and negative gets stripped
[21:23] jonnyb yes, minus sign is not a digit
[21:23] nkoth|nelson int is probbably better
[21:25] nkoth|nelson thanks  jonnyb
[21:25] jonnyb np - have spent many an hour trying to work all that out :)
[21:25] jonnyb it's very strict, but then i guess it should be
[21:30] Tiki|bot Info: Tiki Releases 8.4 - http://info.tiki.org/article191-Tiki-Releases-8-4
[21:42] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41307 10/trunk/ (23 files in 18 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 41266 to 41306
[21:43] ricks99 ping: someone pls update irc welcome message: 8.4
[21:44] Jyhem_laptop That would be sylvieg
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[22:14] chealer polom
[22:14] jonnyb hi chealer
[22:14] chealer hi jonnyb :-)
[22:15] chealer I'm surprised by your answer on HTML diff previews. it's not a Tiki 9 regression but if you're available I'd like to discuss it now
[22:16] jonnyb ok, fire away
[22:17] * jonnyb assumes the "brace brace brace" position
[22:17] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Problems with IE 8 and the CKEditor - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=43958
[22:18] chealer jonnyb: so can you get it to work anywhere? say on demo?
[22:19] chealer I'll try 9.x locally
[22:19] jonnyb it worked fine here (localhost) - will try and recreate on demo
[22:21] * jonnyb turns off wysiwyg_htmltowiki
[22:22] chealer jonnyb: it's broken on my local 9.x: http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/9.x/tiki-editpage.php?page=Produits
[22:22] chealer (r41307)
[22:23] jonnyb seems fine to me on http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-editpage.php?page=wysiwyg_sample_page
[22:24] jonnyb again apart from the <em> '' confusion
[22:24] jonnyb brb
[22:27] chealer jonnyb: hum, interesting, it's also mostly working here
[22:27] jonnyb b
[22:28] jonnyb mostly's near enough, isn't it? (no!) :D
[22:29] chealer jonnyb: except for that italics issue, the img plugin call is not parsed in the preview. but OK, that's fair enough. can you get it to work with a page in normal syntax though?
[22:30] jonnyb you mean wiki syntax?
[22:31] jonnyb ah, ok - no, just just does compare on the wiki source but all sort of mangled (no linebreaks)
[22:32] jonnyb hmm...
[22:33] chealer jonnyb: yes... right
[22:33] chealer it's completely raw source
[22:36] jonnyb can't see it's a major issue is it? and an old "feature disappointment" - side by side is best for wiki markup - maybe html diff shouldn't appear there for wiki pages
[22:41] Jyhem Hmm, I'm testing a Tiki9 site, and I notice that for each page I create, a similarly-named file gallery is automatically created.
[22:41] jonnyb wow, spooky
[22:41] Jyhem What have they activated ???? Does anyone know ?
[22:42] jonnyb something to do with webdav maybe?
[22:42] jonnyb there was some odd webdav wiki stuff arrived a while back, not looked at it
[22:43] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41308 10/trunk/lib/core/Feed/ (ForwardLink/Search.php ForwardLink.php):
[22:43] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [ENH] General cleanup and added author info for metadata
[22:43] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [NEW] Added method findAuthorData to search
[22:44] * Jyhem looks at webdav config while wondering why that would create file galleries
[22:44] chealer jonnyb: it's not a major issue (it's not a regression). I think the HTML diff is nice (although it may be more buggy than text diff)
[22:45] chealer jonnyb: are you suggesting HTML diff shouldn't appear only on previews? or in the history as well?
[22:45] chealer Jyhem: there's an experimental feature to store wiki attachments in file galleries
[22:46] chealer I don't know for sure but if other people admin the site, I'd bet on that one
[22:47] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r41309 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-sheets.tpl: [FIX] fix colspan
[22:48] jonnyb chealer: it's only wiki page preview html diff that's borked right? so the cheapest fix i can think of is hiding the option for now (on preview wiki only)
[22:49] Jyhem They don't so much admin as discover the power of Tiki by testing every possible option in light of trying to decide if it will be used in production :-)
[22:53] chealer jonnyb: yes. I was wondering if you were suggesting that because you thought people shouldn't use it or as a workaround. I agree, that may be a little inconsistent, but it would be cheap
[22:54] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r41310 10/branches/9.x/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] French translation
[22:58] jonnyb chealer: no, it would be great if it worked, but i fear all sort of entity entanglement etc, and we have lots of real regressions to fix for 9.0
[22:59] Jyhem I upgraded to Tiki9 from right now and all seems to work fine. Woohoo!
[22:59] Jyhem I have some pretty elaborate plugins into plugin pages :-)
[23:00] chealer jonnyb: OK. sorry if I suggested that was a regression, that wasn't my intention
[23:00] Jyhem Did you know one can do: {TRACKER(trackerId="15" showmandatory="y" url="{{page}}")}  or even build page names like (({{page}} management)) ? Tiki is awesome
[23:01] chealer (Marc added it to the list of regressions, he probably didn't test correctly)
[23:01] jonnyb chealer: no, i understand, it just not quite right
[23:11] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41311 10/branches/9.x/backups/: [KIL] re-delete old backups dir
[23:18] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41312 10/branches/9.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-themegenerator.js: [FIX] themegen: Handle units without a unit specifier properly (also remove some dead comments - some reformatting seems to have happened accidentally, but it looks all ok and is quite experimental anyway)
[23:45] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41313 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-tracker_view_history.tpl: [FIX] tracker: Use Smarty 3 assign syntax for array elements - seems to fix tracker history old/new display