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[04:00] marclaporte Congrats on Beta!
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[09:38] EmmArrBee Good moring .. query about Mass Search and Replace (v6.7) - I want to replace some gobbledgook strings from an earlier botched upgrade from 4.2->4.3 when we didn't understand UFT-8 properly  with a double quote. What esc ape character do I need to use with ", please??
[09:40] EmmArrBee If I just enter " the old stringis removed nad nothing is inserted.  Thx Martin
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[12:04] EmmArrBee OK, I've found a work round by using " instead of "
[12:15] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41578 10/branches/9.x/_htaccess:
[12:15] CIA-36 tikiwiki: Added simple rewrite rule to find users by their names in crowded collaborative
[12:15] CIA-36 tikiwiki: community sites with "u:username". Commented by default (to avoid any conflict
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[17:14] xavi polom
[17:14] xavi I'd like to fix plugin trackerfilter so that when displaying items from an item link, it displays the whole content (as in trackerlist), and not just the id in of the linked item from the other tracker
[17:15] xavi any tip? (I fear getting lost in the code)
[17:15] xavi I'll have a look at plugin tracker list, to see whether the logic can be copied over to trackerfilter...
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[17:28] xavi Jyhem / Jyhem_laptop ?
[17:30] xavi I see in wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php 9x lines 638 to 649 the code to fetch (and display ?) the data from itemlink fields
[17:30] xavi and in lines 1262 to 1269 in wikiplugin_trackerlist.php the code related to itemlink, it seems
[17:31] xavi but I see different was of getting the data, and this is way beyond my (nearly missing) php skills
[17:33] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03grundsch * r41587 10/trunk/lib/newsletters/nllib.php: [FIX] Newsletter was not handling subscription of users with uppercases in login correctly. tID4230
[17:33] xavi somehow I understand that $option (in line 646 wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php) needs to be replaced to something similar to $field['options_array'][0] or $field['options_array'][3] (as in line 1267 of wikiplugin_trackerlist.php)
[17:34] xavi grundsch: thanks for the commit! :-)
[17:34] xavi grundsch = "Stéphane" ?
[17:34] grundsch yep!
[17:34] xavi :-)
[17:34] grundsch I found actually  better fix than what I described in the tracker id
[17:34] xavi ok, nice! :-)
[17:35] xavi bbl
[17:35] grundsch didn't had to touch the userslib, i.e. login are still fully handled case sensitive
[17:39] grundsch xavi, when you are back, can you help me with the next steps, i..e backport to which version? and should I close my tracker ID?
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[17:53] xavi grundsch: imho, your fix could go to 9x (provided that you can ensure that it works without regressions in 9x) since it's a fix (for instance, I'm affected by this bug, and I have a site in 6x that I need to upgrade to 9x in the following weeks, where I'm affected every now and then with subscriptions to newsletters with uppercase, etc and then the newsletter sending fails, etc)
[17:53] xavi but... ^
[17:54] xavi to avoid any complain from any one and any potential side effect, I would suggest that you backport that to 9x once 9.0 has been released
[17:55] xavi and we are supposed to get closer to that point in time, since 9beta has been released...
[17:55] xavi and if you take care of this, then you can close that bug report now (with "fix in the way" or similar, and in comments you can say "commited already to trunk in r41587")
[17:56] xavi grundsch: does it make sense to you?
[17:57] grundsch okaaay... I have to say that I'm not quite confident with all this numbering thing, I've read the appropriate pages, but it's still a little bit confusing. So concretely, I close the bug with th remark, then wait for 9.0 to be released, and then I backport to... where exactly?
[17:57] Jyhem polom
[17:58] Jyhem xavi: what issue are you trying to solve in wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php ?
[17:58] * Jyhem just came back home
[17:59] grundsch ah wait, 9x thaht would be here: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/9.x/
[17:59] grundsch the 9.0 is just a tag, right?
[17:59] Jyhem Yes, 9.0 is just a tag.
[18:00] grundsch ok.. it's slowly getting into my head... :-)
[18:01] xavi Jyhem: see this: http://ueb.vhir.org/Estudis
[18:01] xavi where it says "Client"
[18:01] xavi well, "Search Studies > Client"
[18:01] xavi Client is a itemlink field
[18:01] grundsch xavi: I'm happy with your proposed way, I will continue tracking the mailling list for the release of 9.0, and then will backport my fix to 9.x
[18:02] xavi thanks grundsch
[18:02] grundsch you're welcome! thank you for holding my hand! :-)
[18:02] xavi Jyhem: and that same itemlink field, when in plugintracker, you can see more fields, and not just the id
[18:02] xavi grundsch: you are welcome  also :-)
[18:03] xavi Jyhem, well sorry, not just more fields, but one text field instead, and not the internal id
[18:03] xavi Jyhem, do you know what I mean?
[18:05] Jyhem xavi:  You mean the field flagged "title" instead of the numeric ID?
[18:06] Jyhem xavi: is what you'd expect
[18:07] xavi Jyhem: tracker from studies is tracker 6. the "title of the study" is from tracker6. The field "Client" is a itemlink to show items in tracker7. I expect tiki to show the name of the client (a text field) in tracker7
[18:07] xavi that behavior is achieved normally with plugin tracker
[18:08] xavi since the field "Clients" in tracker6 is defined as an itemlink to fetch the data from tracker7 and show the name of the client
[18:22] Jyhem xavi:  Both cases are lang=en ?
[18:23] xavi ???
[18:23] xavi does it matter?
[18:24] xavi well, client name have things like "foo1, bar1", "foo2, bar2", ...
[18:24] xavi I mean, they have a comma inside the text field
[18:25] Jyhem not sure, it just reminds of something else
[18:26] Jyhem I has some code display in en, and the correct translation in other languages. probably unrelated
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[18:38] Jyhem xavi: I failed to reproduce
[18:41] xavi ok, testing something more minimalistic to see whether I can track down the source of the problem
[19:05] xavi ok, thanks Jyhem, I got a workaround thanks to your feedback in pm's
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[19:18] RobertPlummerMob polom all
[19:18] xavi hi RobertPlummerMob
[19:19] RobertPlummerMob shouldn't the developer channel show the latest release in the release cycle?
[19:19] RobertPlummerMob xavi: hi
[19:19] xavi RobertPlummerMob: +1 :-)
[19:19] RobertPlummerMob I mean this is this is the developer channel, correct?
[19:19] xavi RobertPlummerMob: btw, I discovered the source of the problem with timesheet for me in my tests in the last weeks
[19:19] RobertPlummerMob Oh yes?
[19:20] RobertPlummerMob You were not showing all projects?
[19:20] RobertPlummerMob I fixed some of it yesterday.
[19:20] xavi developer channel: this is the "tiki channel" :-) (users and developers are not splitted in different channels ) :-)
[19:20] RobertPlummerMob ah, ok.
[19:20] RobertPlummerMob But still, beta's should be welcome.
[19:20] xavi RobertPlummerMob: - timesheet: the problem shows up when you rename the trackers created by the timesheet profile
[19:20] xavi beta: +1 :-)
[19:20] xavi whoever can change that (not me)
[19:21] RobertPlummerMob xavi, yes that is correct.
[19:21] RobertPlummerMob There should be warnings about changing profile-installed things.
[19:21] RobertPlummerMob like trackers.
[19:21] xavi RobertPlummerMob: I added a brief note on the tracker description, at the profile
[19:22] RobertPlummerMob LP came up with a good idea, have a perm-name, which I thought was a great idea, we do not need the id.  And then he went and made the perm-name include part of the id.
[19:22] RobertPlummerMob You win some, you loose some.
[19:22] xavi RobertPlummerMob: shouldn't they be renaming-proof? (if they were used internally with some id's instead of with the display name)...
[19:22] RobertPlummerMob Some people just love those id's.
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[19:22] RobertPlummerMob xavi: Yes, we talked about this sometime back in the devlist.
[19:23] RobertPlummerMob profile installed should not be changable.
[19:23] RobertPlummerMob They should be clone-able.
[19:23] xavi RobertPlummerMob: so yes, anything which prevents breaking things when users renamed display labels for their users
[19:23] RobertPlummerMob They should be able to be extended, but not renamed.
[19:23] xavi they should be renamable, in a perfect world :-)
[19:24] xavi there is no point to leave garbage in a tiki site; users are expected to customized whatever they created through profiles
[19:24] xavi etc
[19:24] xavi or translate, etc
[19:39] RobertPlummerMob I feel that way too.
[19:40] RobertPlummerMob I like the example of the perm-name, but it should be able to be imported, and as well should be something human readable without the pressure of using the id.
[19:40] RobertPlummerMob So I take back my statement above about how it should not be renamed.
[19:41] RobertPlummerMob The perm-name needs to be less dependant on the id, that is all, then we can use it.
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[19:46] Jyhem what is wrong with the id again?
[19:47] xavi +1 to use the id in the mean time, at least (nor names)
[19:47] RobertPlummerMob Jyhem from the end user there is no problem, but say you want to develop something in tiki using a tracker.
[19:47] RobertPlummerMob all a tracker is is DB 2.0.
[19:47] xavi and if/when someone does perm-names or whatever else that someone may want to do if id are not enough, then, ok, extend
[19:47] RobertPlummerMob Database with automagic inputs and outputs.
[19:48] RobertPlummerMob So there is great value there creating an application that run on them, and then allowing the end user to use them.
[19:48] RobertPlummerMob So the problem is this, I have to hard code what I do, because it is in tiki source.
[19:48] xavi RobertPlummerMob: but consdier using some keywords based on the names (like with tracker fields in 9x)
[19:48] xavi not just the "name" that is going to be displayed to users
[19:48] RobertPlummerMob Right, the perm name is what should be used.
[19:48] RobertPlummerMob BUT, if it has the id, and it not imported from profiles, then it is no good.
[19:49] RobertPlummerMob Last I checked that was the case, perhaps it is changed now.
[19:49] RobertPlummerMob The problem is that id's are not descriptive, thus they lead to a bottle-neck of sorts as well.
[19:49] RobertPlummerMob What was the id again? You look it up, then enter it until the next time.
[19:50] RobertPlummerMob If we use the perm-name, and if it is to some degree descriptive, with no id in it, then it is perfect.
[19:51] RobertPlummerMob So my plan is to migrate to it, but I'll no doubt have to clean it up like I did with other parts of trackers, but hey it is Tiki.
[19:51] RobertPlummerMob Like a ruff diamond.
[19:52] xavi :-)
[19:52] RobertPlummerMob As soon as that it created though, my plan is to start working on migrating tracker-storage to a different way.  But that could be way off.
[19:53] RobertPlummerMob If we do that, we can greatly simplify development, and greatly speed them up.
[19:55] Jyhem Well, I suppose remembering a permname can be easier than a figure, but it's still basically an id. Just harder to look up
[19:58] Jyhem Anyway, we need a meaningless unchanging reference for trackers, so that all the rest can be changed. Otherwise renaming is coding hell.
[19:59] Jyhem I think the meaningfull field which can be changed already exists and it is the one flagged "title"
[20:00] Jyhem Oh, 20h already. need to go :-(
[20:01] xavi see you , Jyhem (& enjoy :-) )
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[20:08] xavi ok, time to go also for me.
[20:08] xavi cheers and have a  nice weekend all
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[20:21] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4233 - - Calendar Week View Displays Wrong Date  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4233
[20:21] Driftah ? anyone cross error 406 when trying to upload single file..
[20:22] jonnyb Driftah: no, not seen 406 - what does it mean? (i wonder)
[20:23] jonnyb RobertPlummerMob: i have a client that might be in a position to help out with funding new storage for trackers one day - were discussing it earlier today
[20:23] Driftah when running upload file it gives upload error 406. it shows the flash progress bar to 100% but never finishes uploading file but yet viewing cache via ftp shows it brought data up
[20:24] jonnyb i never got the flash progress thing to work for me
[20:24] Driftah the wiki was part of the hosting that I could install through them never had problems till today
[20:24] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb, what I'd like to do is turn trackerlib to rely on tracker query, that way 1 way in, 1 way out.  We will temporarily have problems with sorting because that doesn't work to well in tracker query lib.
[20:24] Driftah oddly enough it allowed a zip file to upload but not a doc or wps file
[20:24] arildb HTML Error 406  =  Not Acceptable
[20:24] jonnyb http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E406.html
[20:24] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: Then we could migrate storage and sorting at the same time.
[20:25] jonnyb RobertPlummerMob: hmm, not trivial :P
[20:25] Driftah so it does not allow specific file formats..
[20:25] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: Nope, but like html entities, will lead us down a dark path with a very bright light at the end.
[20:25] jonnyb Driftah: don't think it's a tiki thing, something to do with your server maybe?
[20:26] Driftah Jonnyb . yeah just fired off a troubleticket to the host provider
[20:28] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: What we need to think about in the future, how do we want to store trackers?
[20:28] jonnyb Driftah: do you get the same with the flash progress thing turned off?
[20:28] Driftah testing now
[20:28] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: We are poised to begin the migration somewhere between pre10 and 11.
[20:29] jonnyb RobertPlummerMob: the other thing to consider is changing the search engine from Zend Lucene - it's not great on large databases (apparently solr is better)
[20:30] RobertPlummerMob really?
[20:30] RobertPlummerMob I wouldn't 'change' it, I'd add it.
[20:30] jonnyb indeed - it's made so we can do that as an option
[20:30] arildb Isn't Solr only a frontend to Lucene?
[20:30] jonnyb (LP magic ;) )
[20:31] jonnyb hi arildb - maybe, i thought it was more of a replacement
[20:31] jonnyb the other option is to use the java version of Lucene, which is less leaky and more stable in general
[20:31] arildb I am not sure, but I believe it's a front end
[20:32] jonnyb hmm, haven't really investigated that deeply
[20:34] Driftah jonnyb. with flash uploader turned off just sits endless cycle. with it turned on error 406 but can upload other files fine.. so it does not allow specific file types. guess I'll wait for My host provider to confirm
[20:35] jonnyb ok, thanks - i'll retry the flash uploader again sometime
[20:37] jonnyb i thought we had autocomplete on some prefs - for pagename, username etc, but can't seem to find any reference to is (in the code) - was i dreaming?
[20:38] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41588 10/branches/9.x/lang/ca/language.php: a few more strings translated
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[21:43] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: PluginDBreport error - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44127
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[22:19] arildb Can I display a local .mp4 file in Tiki? I tried the Mediaplayer plugin without success.
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[23:17] luciash polom
[23:17] jonnyb hi luciash
[23:17] luciash yo jonnyb
[23:27] deeku arildb, I have got video to work on tw6.x in a number of ways... mediaplayer plugin requires flash to be installed in the client browser but thee are a number of ways to show video without flash. Can you provide details of what you are attempting to do?
[23:28] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41590 10/branches/9.x/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
[23:28] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [FIX] registration: Restore password strength indicator and repeat password check, regression from 7.x following the removal of xajax (and clean out some dead code).
[23:28] CIA-36 tikiwiki: Also restore proper validation for email, login, email etc if feature_jquery_validation is enabled.
[23:38] jonnyb luciash: chasing your <x> next... stand by :)
[23:48] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r41591 10/branches/9.x/lib/prefs/header.php: [FIX] css: Allow url etc in custom css and js prefs (thanks luci)
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