[00:05] dhazel I'm guessing that the apache invironment does not have access to an X display [00:06] dhazel so perhaps the tikiwiki pdf feature only "just works" if the static version of wkhtmltopdf is used? [00:10] dhazel the tiki docs (http://doc.tiki.org/PDF) perhaps say the same, but not clearly [00:11] dhazel seems pretty slow in here today, perhaps I'll mention it again tomorrow [00:29] Tiki|Logger joined #tikiwiki [00:29] Topic for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - Software made the Wiki Way - Tiki 8.4 is out! Question? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help to get some help from our bot ;) Enjoy! 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[09:15] fidel xavi: btw: thanks for writing the mail regarding the account of my collegue. The interesting point is he is still has issues. could it be that registration-mails have a timeout. He get an invalid pw error - while he had never the chance to define one. [09:15] xavi ? [09:15] xavi ni idea... beyond my skills and knowledge [09:16] xavi what I can do is setup a temporary password for him.... [09:16] xavi mmm, let me do it right now... (just after I get some drink... brb ) [09:18] fidel ;) [09:23] xavi back [09:23] xavi doing the pass reset for hmm [09:24] xavi :-( (error on t.o once loged as user with admin perms...) [09:24] xavi ah, ok, it was some issue with a redirect rule.... I can browse normally with lon urls... [09:27] fidel ok [09:27] fidel so he should have another mail now? [09:27] fidel sorry for the trouble we are causing here [09:28] xavi fidel: message sent through tiki messaging system from t.o [09:28] xavi I did send you a copy of the message I sent to user hhm [09:29] fidel ok [09:29] xavi please, tell me if you get an email copy of that message [09:29] fidel lemme fetch [09:29] xavi and no worries, thanks for reporting that there are (or were) some issues with the registration of your friend [09:30] xavi this is testing/dogffoding our own Tiki, which is good to detect sharp edges, first step needed to get them fixed [09:30] xavi fidel, at least, you (and hhm) should be able to read it at: http://tiki.org/messu-compose.php [09:30] xavi and hopefully, you got a copy of the message in your email inbox [09:30] fidel mails is coming according to my fetch log [09:36] fidel thanks once again xavi [09:36] xavi you are welcome, fidel [09:38] CIA-61 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41916 10/mods/trunk/Packages/wikiplugins-r.info.txt: SVN Property id added [09:59] xavi jyhem ? [10:00] Jyhem hi Xavi! [10:00] xavi hi :-) [10:00] Jyhem how are things? [10:01] xavi I'm not able to use HTML plugin inside a blog post in Tiki9: html code dissapears every time I hit on "save" [10:01] xavi I've tried disabling "HTML Purifier" and "Output should be HTML Purified" but no way, same issue [10:01] xavi do you know how to avoid this issue? [10:02] xavi I'm using the standard simple editor in the blog post [10:02] Jyhem no, I have no idea :-( [10:02] xavi ok, np [10:03] * Jyhem left the parsing stuff to RobertPlummer and jonny, and is currently knee deep in tracker stuff. Not looked at blogs yet [10:07] xavi ok, ok, Jyhem :-) [10:08] xavi btw, Jyhem, do you know already how to save data back to trackers from a smarty template (where R did could have done some calculations)? [10:08] xavi email sent to the devel list about the plugin html issues in blog posts in 9x [10:11] Jyhem xavi: never thought about saving data back automatically. A prefilled Tracker plugin maybe? [10:11] xavi mmm? [10:12] xavi I don't get it... [10:12] xavi imagine that you have 3 fields in a tracker: A, B C [10:12] xavi A=2, B=3, C= [empty], in the tracker [10:13] xavi in a smarty template, you want R to do some calculations (for the sake of simplicity, let's say A * B here) [10:13] xavi so that you want the value 6, obtanied at the smarty template level, to be stored back to the field C in the tracker [10:13] xavi ^how can you do that ? [10:14] xavi ^Jyhem [10:17] Jyhem {JQ()} [10:17] Jyhem $jq("#ins_128").val("Arad : "); // to prefill a text field, option1 [10:18] xavi Jyhem, well, yes, I know that trick, requiring an extra "Save results" button somewhere... [10:18] Jyhem with the calculated 6 thing in val("Arad : ") [10:18] xavi I ment, without requiring extra hit from the user to save results int he tracker [10:19] xavi isn't there any smarty or ajax or whatever stuff to save back to trackers from a smarty template? [10:19] xavi s/ment/meant [10:20] xavi maybe RobertPlummer might know, whenever he is back? [10:20] xavi or sylvieg might know... [10:24] Jyhem I see no pretty tracker plugin which might help. [10:24] Jyhem Maybe some ajax with services, but I'm not sure how it works and if it's in 9.x already [10:26] xavi ok, thanks. I'll ask again to RobertPlummer or sylvieg at some point later this week [10:58] redflo1 joined #tikiwiki [11:13] CIA-61 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41917 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-list_posts.tpl: [11:13] CIA-61 tikiwiki: [FIX]Added check on tiki_p_blog_admin for teh checkboxes to show up (thanks [11:13] CIA-61 tikiwiki: jonnyb). However, currently only users with that admin perm will be able to use [11:13] CIA-61 tikiwiki: tiki-list_posts.php since its line 11: [11:13] CIA-61 tikiwiki: $access->check_permission('tiki_p_blog_admin'); [11:17] Beestje joined #tikiwiki [11:20] Beestje Hello all! [11:21] Beestje Small Q : we're on an older version, 3.3 ... still didn't find the time to update due to trackers having mirrored tables :( [11:22] Beestje now i got the Q from my boss if there's a possibility to have a mail button when viewing a tracker item so users can easily send an email with a small description and a link to the tracker [11:22] Beestje has this functionality been added recently or is this difficult to do? [11:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Welcome! - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=24&comments_parentId=44194 [11:34] Beestje Another Q : [11:35] Beestje I was able to import tracker data from 3.3 to 8.3, but it does not copy over the created date and lastmodif dates [11:35] Beestje Anyone else have this problem or a known workaround? [11:36] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: New blog with updates on Tiki & PluginR - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=24&comments_parentId=44195 [11:47] CIA-61 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41918 10/branches/9.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.js: [FIX]Add support for the geshi syntax name 'bash' in codemirror also to prevent loosing highlighting in plugin code areas in upgraded sites. thanks changi for upgrading codermirror recently [11:49] xavi hi Beestje. about button: try the feature "share" or "tell a friend" (they should do what you are looking for) [11:50] xavi I haven't tested on trackers, but they might work there... or easily extended, in case they only show up in wiki pages right now, etc. [11:51] xavi Beestje: about Q2: try with Tiki9. and ensure that you are using the same syntax that was used at export time from the same tracker. (do some test before with adding a new tracker item normally in the tracker and export it as csv first: see the syntax exported,e tc.) [12:05] Beestje tnx xavi. The share this page does show up on a tracker item. [12:06] xavi ok [12:06] Beestje currently we have some other systems in place that open up the mail in outlook with the URL and the description. [12:07] Beestje Boss will not like that he has to type in the recipients manually instead of selecting the from within outlook :-) [12:07] xavi mm, Beestje, could you please help improving the doc page about Share, whenver you have some time?: http://doc.tiki.org/Share [12:07] xavi thanks for your time, of course [12:08] Beestje also would be nice if the message would contain a brief description of the page instead of "I found an interesting page that I tought .... " [12:08] xavi +1 [12:08] Beestje I'll see what I can do... have to rewrite a complaint tracking system and was hoping I could do it with trackers :( [12:09] Beestje but it needs multiple file uploads at once, [12:09] Beestje email button that opens up the mail in outlook, instead of the integrated share thing. [12:10] Beestje and tons of reporting on the entire system [12:36] GillesM joined #tikiwiki [13:24] RobertPlummer Polom all [13:24] xavi hi RobertPlummer [13:25] RobertPlummer Jyhem / Jyhem_laptop : xavi mentioned a possibility to delete multi spreadsheets at a time. I feel this may be an important feature for 9 as it fixes the ability to delete spreadsheets that may have come about by a spammer, what do you think? [13:30] xavi RobertPlummer: thanks for asking for this multi-delete sheets in 9.0 [13:31] xavi RobertPlummer: quick css question: do you know to remove the extra blank space that is added somehow by PluginR on top of the graphs shown here? : http://www.r-es.org/r_test6 [13:31] xavi I mean, the google API charts display small, as they were expected [13:32] xavi and according to firebug, there is plenty of space in the section called something like: [13:32] xavi
[13:33] Jyhem RobertPlummer: good idea. missing featrures that make stuff unusable (or a hue pain) need fixing [13:33] RobertPlummer xavi, any reason it uses a pre tag? [13:33] RobertPlummer That is a bit odd, I would imagine that is the problem. [13:33] RobertPlummer \n is seen as
in a pre tag [13:33] xavi RobertPlummer: well, that's good for the text output [13:33] RobertPlummer (I think) [13:34] xavi but not for graphic output, it seems... [13:34] RobertPlummer xavi: Yea, but on a graph that doesn't seem to work well. [13:34] RobertPlummer xavi is there ever any text in there? [13:34] xavi so the question is, is there an easy way to add only that pre tag when the output contains text? [13:35] RobertPlummer Where does the text come from in the {R()}{R} plugin? [13:35] RobertPlummer Does it come from the body? [13:35] xavi text: yes, usually. ... see http://doc.tiki.org/PluginR#a:_attId_hardcoded [13:36] RobertPlummer then just wrap the text from the body in it. The graph/chart should not be in the pre tag. [13:36] xavi well, see this simpler command: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginR#Example_1:_simple_command [13:36] RobertPlummer That is not in a pre tag. [13:37] xavi mmm, RobertPlummer, any hint: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php?view=markup [13:39] xavi well, Robert, that live example 1:10 is run here: (in doc.t.o is just fake, since R is not installed there): http://www.r-es.org/r_test2 [13:40] xavi mmm , bbl (lunch time at work) [13:43] Jyhem Does anyone know if i can fire an event when I focus on a select option wwith jQuery ? I'd like to show a description of the option *before* it's selected (meaning before .change) [13:44] Jyhem $("#trackerFilterEdit1form td.fieldedit option").focus(function() { alert('toto');}); never triggers :-( [13:44] RobertPlummer Remove option. [13:45] RobertPlummer option never has any events. [13:45] RobertPlummer if you need to detect if a certain option is selected, then use $('').change(function(){}); and obtain the value. [13:45] RobertPlummer Jyhem [13:45] RobertPlummer ^ [13:48] RobertPlummer xavi, como se dice 'Edit' en esp? [13:48] arildb joined #tikiwiki [13:49] RobertPlummer Fuente! [13:49] RobertPlummer (got it) [13:50] Jyhem RobertPlummer: but I do not want $('#select').change() I want to let users roll up and down the drop-down and see in realtime the description of the option which they *might* choose [13:51] RobertPlummer Jyhem, you will have to find another event I think. [13:51] Jyhem If option can't have event, I guess it's impossible [13:51] RobertPlummer How is the user changing it? (It is never impossible) [13:52] RobertPlummer are they scrolling their mouse, use wheelscroll event (if it exists) are they using their keyboard, use mouse down. [13:54] * Jyhem trying mousedown [13:55] RobertPlummer bingo [13:56] RobertPlummer or rather keydown [13:56] RobertPlummer woops. [13:58] RobertPlummer xavi, who wrote plugin rr? [14:01] Jyhem no luck [14:02] Jyhem plugin rr was written by xavi, i think. I helped afterwards on multiple graphs [14:14] RobertPlummer Man we need a cleaner way of creating plugins. [14:14] RobertPlummer This is a case in point, I like it, but man it seems hard to follow. [14:16] RobertPlummer The more I think about it, the more I want to rebuild the plugin system. [14:17] RobertPlummer I was debating on using OO for the plugins, and I thought it would be too much overhead, but I am now reconsidering. [14:17] RobertPlummer Jyhem, my thought is to have 2-3 types of plugins, html plugins, and operator plugins, can you think of any other type? [14:18] RobertPlummer An html plugin gets a standard 'box' with a standard set of css modifiers. [14:19] RobertPlummer An operator plugin has no css applied to it. [14:19] Jyhem hover() did it :-) [14:19] RobertPlummer That way we could have reliable css on any plugin needed. [14:19] RobertPlummer Jyhem hover is mousein + mouseout [14:20] RobertPlummer hover(function() {},function() {}) [14:20] RobertPlummer Jyhem, what do you think about reworking how plugins are created? [14:22] Jyhem Well, hover() works fine while "TypeError: $("#trackerFilterEdit1form td.fieldedit option").mousein is not a function" [14:26] RobertPlummer sorry mouseover [14:26] RobertPlummer mouseover + mouseout [14:27] Jyhem Hmmm, not sure. Our plugins really do amazingly complex stuff. I'm not sure creating them differently will make them simpler. They have already been reworked so that all params can be exposed to users and modified in a standardised way. What issue would this reworking solve ? [14:30] RobertPlummer Making them standardized. [14:30] RobertPlummer It would greatly simplify creating new plugins. [14:31] RobertPlummer I didn't think it would be a good idea until I jump into a plugin that has tons of css modifiers. [14:31] RobertPlummer It would be nice to abstract that level, so you don't have to worry about it when creating a new plugin. [14:31] RobertPlummer All I know is this, most successful cms system have already done this, they wouldn't do it if there wasen't much value in it. [14:33] RobertPlummer DotNetNuke for example has extremely powerful plugins, creating a single layer for how it is represented on the page would greatly increase it's ability to be stablized and or represented in a wywiwyg manner. [14:37] Jyhem So it is just about the displayed css modifiers? [14:38] Jyhem I don't see how this is a plugin-related issue in Tiki [14:39] Jyhem That would be a look and feel project for someone with both graphism and coding abilities, and time. [14:40] RobertPlummer Jyhem it is a plugin related issue because I'm talking about going from procedural to OO. [14:40] RobertPlummer I think you are in favour of procedural, no? [14:42] Jyhem Well, if OO is getting us to where trackers are, I certainly want to keep the procedural approach. At least, it's hackable. Nowadays, debugging trackers is done more and more at the jQuery level, which is just wrong [14:43] Jyhem And debugging is much more important than writing the first version. [14:43] RobertPlummer Jyhem, we have talked about this before, trackers are not really OO, they have an OO piggy-back that is terrible. [14:43] RobertPlummer They may be in a class, but it is NOT OO. [14:44] RobertPlummer Jyhem, that is the exact reason I want to do this. [14:45] RobertPlummer Jyhem I don't think the goal is to recreate all the plugins, but just make a very easy layer to make new ones. [14:45] Jyhem Well, when I dive through 6 layers of abstraction and still haven't reached the mysql query, I don't feel how abstracting things is different from hiding them [14:45] RobertPlummer Jyhem, that is not the type of abstraction I'm talking about. [14:45] RobertPlummer Jyhem, I will get a proof of concept together, then let me know what you think. [14:46] RobertPlummer Jyhem, I'm much in favour of using abstraction to enhance debugging, not make it more difficult. [14:46] RobertPlummer Jyhem, abstracting in a way humans think and a way that is understandable. [14:47] Jyhem Well, I think the important thing here is "respect the environment". If there is a new improved way of making plugins *which does not* start with breaking the existing ones, I'm sure pleny of volunteers will happily convert the old ones. But only if it works better. [14:48] RobertPlummer Jyhem, agreed, that is the goal. Too much work for any one man. [14:49] Jyhem And work better is a lot of different things to different people: easy to write/easy to maintain/easy to modify/don't hog resources/run fats/etc. So it usually takes more time than planned [14:49] RobertPlummer Understood [14:50] Jyhem That's good :-) [14:51] Jyhem BTW, is trackerquery finished, or do you intend to run everything at once ? :-) [14:51] xavi back [14:52] Jyhem don't burn yourself out, RobertPlummer, we like to have you around [14:52] xavi Robert: "Edit" in Spanish is "Editar" [14:53] RobertPlummer Jyhem trackerquery will evolve as I need it at this point, till others help out with it. [14:53] RobertPlummer Or I get more funding, but as of right now it lets me do things with 5 lines of code you can't do with 150 with the 'OO Tracker Piggy-Back' [14:54] Jyhem ok, now I need to eat [14:54] xavi RobertPlummer: PluginR was written by many people [14:54] RobertPlummer xavi, oh ok. [14:57] RobertPlummer Jyhem, I get burned out looking at Tiki's old code and frustrated at times that it hasen't been simplified. I get enthusiastic when I can simplify something and make it better than it was before. [14:58] RobertPlummer There is no joy in being the only one who understands how something runs, the joy is designing it so that others can share your joy in knowing how it works. [14:58] xavi many people: a guy from mediawiki, lph some bits, luci some bits, rodtigo, sylvie, you.... [14:58] xavi ...me some tiny bits [15:08] sandroandrade joined #tikiwiki [15:09] CIA-61 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41919 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [FIX]Update icon path to Tiki9 icon paths [15:12] nkoth|nelson joined #tikiwiki [15:17] CIA-61 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41920 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [FIX]Params type and onefile are not added by default when user edits R code thorgh the popup helper [15:17] xavi s/thorgh/through [15:17] xavi ^ CIA-61 :-) [15:18] * xavi wondered whether CIA-61 bot was programmed to answer :-) [15:24] dhazel joined #tikiwiki [15:40] CIA-61 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41921 10/trunk/lib/core/Feed/ (ForwardLink/Metadata.php ForwardLink.php): [15:40] CIA-61 tikiwiki: [FIX] Removed id and added saved page as a means to later lookup easily [15:40] CIA-61 tikiwiki: [ENH] Added metadata allowed keys, next need to iterate over them and remove possible intrusions. [15:43] CIA-61 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41922 10/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] Added new plugin architecture and ability to call those plugins with a standardized box (div) with default css attributes. Added execution to both old parser and new, with first plugin being plugin html. [15:44] RobertPlummer Jyhem / Jyhem_laptop: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/ [15:51] xavi RobertPlummer: I don't get how to get rid of the extra space above the image... [15:52] xavi the critical line seems to be (maybe I'm wrong?) line 536 in http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php?view=markup [15:52] RobertPlummer I don't either, but I think it has to do with[16:00] RobertPlummer [16:00] RobertPlummer [16:00] xavi yes, I saw that... [16:00] xavi which means?.... [16:01] RobertPlummer Each of those breaks are coming back as a line break (i think) [16:01] xavi ah, ok... [16:01] RobertPlummer 5 or 6 breaks. [16:01] xavi thanks! you gave the hints to fix it! [16:01] xavi :-) [16:01] xavi but why aren't they considered as html comments? [16:02] RobertPlummer So either that needs to be removed or when it is processed by google it needs to now have a pre tag, what do you think? [16:02] xavi maybe it's obviours, but I don't get it. [16:02] xavi to now have= to not have, or to "now" (as in time) have [16:02] xavi ^ RobertPlummer ? [16:03] RobertPlummer not, sorry [16:03] xavi ok [16:03] xavi thinking.... [16:05] RobertPlummer Jyhem / Jyhem_laptop: the new plugin handler seems to work pretty good so far, you can set styles by a param now, just set '{PLUGIN(style-color='blue')}My lpugin data{PLUGIN} [16:05] RobertPlummer You can also have defaults for your plugin. [16:07] xavi RobertPlummer: those html comments come from the external r package googleVIS, which I can't touch [16:07] RobertPlummer Can you detect if google is going to be executed in the plugin ;)? [16:07] xavi RobertPlummer: or anyone: any css trick (or any other one)Ç to get those lines as html comments removed or not shown in the page? [16:07] xavi google API is [16:08] xavi googleVIS is an R package which takes advantage of the Google Visauliazation API for motion charts, etc. [16:09] xavi http://code.google.com/p/google-motion-charts-with-r/wiki/GadgetExamples [16:13] rodrigoprimo joined #tikiwiki [16:16] benoitg joined #tikiwiki [16:19] RobertPlummer xavi give me a min I will se [16:19] xavi thks [16:19] xavi I was considering to add some search and replace at php level in pluginr [16:20] xavi something like: search for lines containning in the same line [16:20] xavi or empty lines, after my [16:20] xavi options(echo=FALSE) [16:21] xavi and before