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[00:43] marclaporte Can anyone test http://tiki.org/Major+use+cases ?
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[06:01] kstingel what is the syntax for an IF(var=somevalue) .... ELSE statement in Tiki?
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[09:25] fidel {GROUP(groups=Admins)}
[09:26] fidel looking for something like that kstingel|lurking ?
[09:26] fidel that checks if user is part of the admin group - otherwise the content will not be visible for him im read-mode
[09:26] fidel {ELSE}
[09:27] fidel {GROUP}
[09:27] kstingel|lurking not quite fidel .... I was looking to make an internal toc depending on which structure was viewed
[09:27] fidel to end this mini-example
[09:30] kstingel|lurking {IF(structure=book)}
[09:30] kstingel|lurking *((this page))
[09:30] kstingel|lurking {ELSE} {* show web copy *}
[09:30] kstingel|lurking *((other page))
[09:30] kstingel|lurking {/IF}
[09:30] kstingel|lurking when I tried adding that to the page, my IF statement appeared as text
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[10:51] xavi polom
[10:52] xavi is it only me, or there is some problem with object permissions in current tiki9 svn?
[10:52] xavi wiki pages lost the button change object permissions...
[10:52] xavi also for users with tiki_p_admin ...
[10:52] xavi and tiki-list_object_permissions.php yields WSOD...
[10:54] xavi WSOD because of memmory exhausted error with 128Mb of RAM...
[10:54] xavi mmm
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[11:11] xavi kstingel|lurking: btw, that "if else" logic that you were asking has to be done at smarty level, afaik
[11:11] xavi at least with current code
[11:11] kstingel thanks xavi
[11:12] xavi mmmm, btw, I confirm that we have a new regression (blocker, imho) in 9x regading permissions
[11:12] xavi the button for object permisions in wiki pages is gone
[11:12] xavi during the changes in svn in the last 3 weeks or so...
[11:12] xavi maybe due to the changes in externals (smarty, adodb, ...)
[11:13] xavi I dunno why, but I know that after doing svn up in a site  from June 7th (r41838) until today (r42089), that button is gone....
[11:15] xavi and nowadays, I get WSOD (128Mb memory exhausted) at tiki-list_object_permissions.php
[11:15] xavi Jyhem_laptop: ? ^
[11:15] xavi can you get the "permissions" button below wiki pages as usual in current svn 9x?
[11:16] xavi well, I'll drop a note at the page about regressions in 9x
[11:19] * Jyhem_laptop looking
[11:23] Jyhem_laptop r42078 → I can't understand what your issue is
[11:24] Jyhem_laptop there is a "Permissions" button and clicking gets to tiki-objectpermissions.php?objectId=…
[11:24] Jyhem_laptop did I misunderstand the problem or should I svn up ?
[11:24] Jyhem_laptop xavi:  ^
[11:25] xavi he he, Jyhem_laptop, which revision are you at?
[11:25] xavi you'll probably miss that button when you svn up :-)
[11:25] xavi that happened to me in two different server, two differnt tiki9 installs....
[11:38] Jyhem_laptop xavi: well, I just did svn up (r42078 was from yesterday anyway) and I still see "Permissions"
[11:38] Jyhem_laptop yes, I cleared cache
[11:38] xavi mmmm, lucky you! :-)
[11:39] Jyhem_laptop try another theme?
[11:39] xavi ok, I'll try
[11:39] xavi so far, I miss that button after the update in feb12 and mollio...
[11:39] xavi I presume it's not theme related...
[11:40] xavi which theme are you using, Jyhem_laptop?
[11:40] xavi I reproduced the issue in fivealive
[11:40] xavi also
[11:41] Jyhem_laptop an eatlon derivative
[11:42] Jyhem_laptop forget it: I see Permissions with fivealive, too
[11:42] * Jyhem_laptop svn ups externals
[11:47] xavi ah, of course, I presume that the problem might come with the update of externals (sdodb, smarty...9
[11:47] xavi ...
[11:48] * xavi wonders why externals needed to be upgradeed at this time of the pre-9.0 release....
[11:51] Jyhem_laptop I think they were pinned so late because there was this last jquery version before jquery does a major upgrade. They are now pinned
[11:56] Jyhem_laptop xavi: YES! The externals are upgraded and now I have no "Permissions" buton :-(
[11:57] xavi ok, we have some trouble here...
[11:57] * xavi still wonders why the pinning of externals was not done just AFTER 9.0 was released...
[11:58] * xavi wonders if this update of externals can be reverted...
[12:06] * Jyhem_laptop just discovered how to buffer-scroll in screen :) So I can tel which are the suspects: lib/adodb lib/smarty lib/jquery.sheet
[12:06] Jyhem_laptop My guess:  lib/smarty
[12:07] Jyhem_laptop error log is empty :(
[12:11] xavi :-7
[12:11] xavi :-/
[12:23] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42090 10/mods/trunk/Packages/wikiplugins-r.info.txt: Minor fix at the description (works with Tiki9 also)
[12:25] Bsfez1 Ola xavi, Salut Jyhem...
[12:25] xavi hi Bsfez1
[12:32] Jyhem_laptop Hello Bsfez1
[12:32] Jyhem_laptop xavi: found it. It seems that we can't have tabs used as spaces inside smarty plugins any more
[12:39] xavi ok
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[12:49] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r42091 10/branches/9.x/templates/ (6 files): [FIX] Apparently, following last smart upgrade, we can't use tabs as spaces inside smarty plugins any more
[12:50] Jyhem_laptop xavi:  have a try.
[12:50] * Jyhem_laptop goes for food
[12:50] xavi thks Jyhem_laptop, I will in short
[13:04] xavi hi Jyhem, this fixed the issue with the permissions button at the page bar in wiki pages (thks! :-)
[13:05] xavi I 'm still missing the permissions button for bigbluebutton plugin... (maybe it's  a different issue, or just I forgot something... even if as far as I remember, the perms button showed up automagically for users with tiki_p_admin perm... and the plugin bbb in a wiki page....)
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[15:01] Jyhem_laptop xavi: same thing with BBB
[15:02] xavi back
[15:02] xavi mmmm
[15:02] xavi is there a way to grep for that case that needs to be replaced for something else due to this new smarty setting?
[15:02] xavi grep in ALL tiki code...
[15:03] xavi ?
[15:03] Jyhem_laptop ??? I only grepped in templates. It's a smarty issue
[15:03] xavi then why is it failing with bbb?
[15:03] Jyhem_laptop and it's not an "easy grep". Don't believe Marc :)
[15:03] * xavi doesn't get it
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[15:04] Jyhem_laptop because I missed it the first time!
[15:04] xavi ? because in PluginBBB the issue is not in a template?
[15:04] xavi and therefore, there might be other places where the issue still resides/exists?
[15:05] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r42092 10/branches/9.x/templates/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Apparently, following last smart upgrade, we can't use tabs as spaces inside smarty plugins any more
[15:05] * xavi still fearing the side effects on that last minute upgrade of externals...
[15:06] xavi ok, thanks Jyhem_laptop
[15:07] Jyhem_laptop I grepped for all tabs following a non-tab (meaning, I ignored all the start of lineindentation tabs) and I got plenty of matches :-( So I had to look visually, and that's not perfect.
[15:08] Jyhem_laptop Turns out, we have plenty of tabs at ends of lines ??? And mixes of tabs and spaces at the start of lines
[15:09] Jyhem_laptop and a big syntax clean up is NOT to be done while there are branche merges. So I just tried to correct the ones inside {button } tags
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[15:35] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r42093 10/branches/9.x/templates/comment-footer.tpl: [FIX] Apparently, following last smarty upgrade, we can't use tabs as spaces inside smarty plugins any more
[15:42] xavi thanks Jyhem_laptop
[15:44] Jyhem_laptop np
[15:50] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42094 10/trunk/ (lib/prefslib.php templates/prefs/shared-dependencies.tpl): [NEW] Features get the ability to have a profile as a dependency by setting an array with the parent key in lib/prefs/feature 'dependencies' of 'profiles'
[15:52] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42095 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [ENH] Need profile to run
[15:58] RobertPlummerMob hopefully that last commit is one the community wants.
[15:59] RobertPlummerMob xavi, Jyhem_laptop, jonnyb: What do you guys think?
[16:00] xavi as far as the extension of what some of you already did in trunk, I'm ok with it
[16:00] xavi but as I told you yesterday, RobertPlummer, this should be avoided for basic tiki features
[16:01] xavi I don't know invoice, for instance
[16:01] xavi but if a feature is shown in the main app panel once you enable it...
[16:01] xavi something should be usable already in tiki, without the need of extra profile applicatiojn, etc.
[16:01] RobertPlummerMob But xavi, the installer page has profiles on it.  Why is that shown all the time and not to advanced users?
[16:02] xavi on teh contrary, for some extra features,e tc,. ok to get them from profiles
[16:02] RobertPlummerMob Could it not be assumed that the admin is a more advanced user than say a registered user.
[16:02] xavi ? installer page has no profiles in it since many years ago, afaik
[16:03] RobertPlummerMob When you log into tiki the first time after install, it mentions profiles.
[16:03] jonnyb hi RobertPlummerMob - prefs that depend on a profile? could be useful i guess
[16:03] xavi yes, of course, that's a good way to talk the admin about them
[16:03] RobertPlummerMob Easy Setup using Profiles
[16:03] RobertPlummerMob Edit Section
[16:03] RobertPlummerMob Get Started using Profiles
[16:03] RobertPlummerMob Who Should Use This
[16:03] RobertPlummerMob You want to get started quickly
[16:03] RobertPlummerMob You don't feel like learning the Admin Panel right away
[16:03] RobertPlummerMob You want to quickly test out some of Tiki's Features
[16:04] xavi RobertPlummer I know all that (I've translated all the strings several times in several languages across a few years)
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[16:04] xavi but this is not the installer
[16:04] xavi that' s what I mean
[16:04] RobertPlummerMob So I don't understand why then if they are adopted by the community that they are treated like a red headed step child in this regard. ;)
[16:04] RobertPlummerMob All that change is has a link to apply the profile.
[16:05] xavi I don't understand where is the problem, as far as this is a follow up of the same behavior
[16:05] jonnyb not keen on changing the format of pref dependencies
[16:05] jonnyb was a flat array, now sometimes has keys? sounds dangerous, no?
[16:05] * xavi feels he is in the wrong discussion
[16:06] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: Not a change to existing, just an ability to add more.
[16:06] jonnyb guess the code looks ok, probably a good idea
[16:06] RobertPlummerMob xavi, you feel you are wrong, jonnyb is wrong or I'm wrong?
[16:06] jonnyb sry xavi
[16:06] xavi RobertPlummer, discuss the internals of your commit with devs that can comment in the way you code it, if that 's what you are asking opinion on
[16:06] xavi I'm not the right person to provide feedback on that, I'm afraid,
[16:07] jonnyb xavi, i finally have your huge db running locally, going to try the newsletter thing at last! :)
[16:07] RobertPlummerMob xavi, I know, but as an admin who does commit you are a respected developer.
[16:07] xavi thanks RobertPlummer, I appreciate, but I have to remind you of my limited skills
[16:07] xavi thks jonnyb !
[16:08] jonnyb ok, have the same bug here, on the case...
[16:08] RobertPlummerMob xavi: We were not born with these skills, aren't you a phd?
[16:08] xavi phd doesn't mean that you can learn any new programing language (and debugging environment) in a few weeks
[16:09] RobertPlummerMob touch�
[16:09] xavi and I'm a slow learner... (way slower than the avarage)
[16:09] * xavi has been considered an "outlier" in many scenarios...
[16:09] RobertPlummerMob xavi I think you underestimate you mad science / computer skills.
[16:10] RobertPlummerMob *your
[16:10] RobertPlummerMob xavi, I digress, back to work
[16:10] xavi well, whatever, thanks RobertPlummer. the real facts are that I still can't debug my own bugs..
[16:10] xavi ok, back to work :-)
[16:11] * xavi still has in his todo list to download and install phpstorm, and/or some debugging environment for php/mysql, etc.
[16:11] RobertPlummerMob running a merge
[16:11] RobertPlummerMob xavi You don't have php storm yet?!?!?
[16:11] xavi :-D
[16:11] xavi nope
[16:11] RobertPlummerMob xavi: The next time you need to do any coding in tiki, stop everything and download it.
[16:11] xavi well, yes, somewhere... but probably in the wrong computer,e tc
[16:12] RobertPlummerMob xavi: jonnyb will testify.  It has saved me soooo much time.
[16:12] changi hi guys,
[16:12] xavi hi changi
[16:12] changi a non blocker issue, but a funny one, and maybe an easy to solve,
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[16:12] RobertPlummerMob xavi when I was working on the old parser I used upwards of 70 hours.  If I had used notepad, I would have easily doubled it.  phpstorm is a real time saver.
[16:13] changi maketoc display & instead of &
[16:13] xavi RobertPlummer, did you notice that the link from the calendar (trackerlist as calendar) is still wrong, even after the fixes you did yesterday?
[16:13] jonnyb hi changi - ew, entities again?
[16:13] RobertPlummerMob Let me check it.
[16:13] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: sounds like an easy fix, is_html probably needs set.
[16:14] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: WHen you get to a conflict in merge what action do you take?
[16:14] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: I've been just rolling the conflict back, in short accepting myn.
[16:14] xavi RobertPlummerMob: it seems that the url is nowadays working as expected (nice)
[16:15] xavi maybe cache thing
[16:15] xavi but fixed
[16:15] jonnyb RobertPlummerMob: it depends
[16:15] RobertPlummerMob Very good.
[16:15] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: language file
[16:15] jonnyb for lang i use mc (mine-conflict)
[16:15] jonnyb trunk takes precedence on lang files
[16:15] jonnyb most other ones i do postpone and do visually (in phpstorm of course! ;) )
[16:16] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42096 10/trunk/ (22 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 42063 to 42093
[16:16] RobertPlummerMob jonnyb: I'll do that next time around.   Thanks for the pointer.
[16:17] xavi RobertPlummerMob: any easy fix to get the first day of the calendar (in trackerlist view as calendar) to get the setting in the calendar admin panel, for instance?
[16:17] xavi example: http://intercanvis.net/XIC%20Connecta%20Francesc%20Candel&refresh=1
[16:18] xavi I get Sunday as the first day of teh week (but it will easily get mistaken as monday, since all days in Catalan start with "D"... and that mini calendar just displays 2 letters for the day...
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[16:29] quonter Hi
[16:29] quonter there is a way to increase default font of wiki?
[16:31] xavi hi quonter: you have to play with the css of the theme style that you use
[16:31] Jyhem_laptop polom jonnyb & RobertPlummerMob
[16:31] ricks99 quonter: do you mean the font-size? yes, you can add custom css on the Admin: Look & Feel page
[16:31] xavi there is not a single setting to increase all fonts
[16:31] xavi hi ricks99
[16:31] quonter not all font, just wikis
[16:31] xavi quonter: I meant that
[16:31] xavi all fonts in the wiki (for instance)
[16:32] RobertPlummerMob polom Jyhem_laptop
[16:33] quonter So... im goin to my .css file ;/ Tnx
[16:33] ricks99 quonter: just find the container element ID, and set the font-size for it to be 120%. it will cascade to all elements
[16:34] Jyhem_laptop Hmmm
[16:35] * Jyhem_laptop wonders on the difference between tiki_p_subscribe_groups and tiki_p_group_join
[16:36] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42097 10/branches/9.x/tiki-send_newsletters.php: [FIX] newsletters: Curious edge case on some very big pages causing $info['data'] to be set to null when using wiki page as content template (thanks xavi)
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[16:38] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42098 10/branches/9.x/lang/es/language.php: a few more strings translated
[16:38] jonnyb xavi: try r42097 when you can
[16:38] Jyhem_laptop Anyway, I have set up self-registrable groups, I set admin → login so that these groups can be selected at login, with a registration tracker (same one for all). I try to register and I get the correct choice of groups but whichever I choose (even Registered) gets me "You do not have permission to insert an item" :-(
[16:39] ricks99 need to set "create tracker item" for anonymous for that tracker
[16:40] Jyhem_laptop Oh, special perms for that tracker. Let me try
[16:43] Jyhem_laptop YES! thanks ricks99. Now it displays no error but the tracker's description text :)
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[16:44] quonter Hi again...
[16:44] quonter how manually activate user?
[16:45] quonter ok, i've found it in PA (tried to do it thru phpmyadmin :P)
[16:46] Jyhem_laptop grrrrr ! It actually displays the registration tracker form twice !!! :-(
[16:46] ricks99 hm.. thats odd
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[16:49] Jyhem_laptop The tricky part is, if I let the standard "Registered" as only choice, the form is all there. When there is a choice, it should not be there at first. It should wait for some selection of available groupps
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[16:54] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42099 10/branches/9.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX]to allow seing the start and end of items from months_links module for blogs and articles
[16:54] xavi ricks99: I managed to fix some css issue without asking you! ^ (r42099)
[16:55] * xavi doing some progress
[16:55] ricks99 you're the new css master!
[16:55] xavi jonnyb, ok, thanks testing...
[16:55] * Jyhem_laptop suggests an "install phpstorm" session at the start of the Barcelona Tikifest :)
[16:55] xavi :-)
[16:55] xavi +1 to have a trainning on debugging session at the start of TikiFestBarcelona3 ... :-D
[16:57] * Jyhem_laptop has been curious about phpstorm but never found time to install it
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[17:12] xavi jonnyb: your fixed worked like a charm in the newsletters
[17:12] xavi thanks for fixing
[17:12] xavi s/your fixed/your fix
[17:12] jonnyb np, glad to help!
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[17:50] RobertPlummer changi: How is you free time today?
[17:55] Jyhem_laptop I try to use a tpl file for a registration tracker. I put the tpl name in "Admin" → "Admin Home" → "Log in" → "Use pretty trackers for registration form" but where should I put the corresponding registration-spiral.tpl file ?
[17:56] jonnyb hmmm, good q Jyhem_laptop - templates is guess (or templates/style/yourstyle?)
[17:56] jonnyb is/i
[17:57] Jyhem_laptop Nope. Did that and → Missing wiki template page "registration-spiral.tpl"
[17:57] Jyhem_laptop also tried templates/registration-spiral.tpl templates/registration-spiral.tpl.tpl
[17:58] Jyhem_laptop and templates/styles/spiral/registration-spiral.tpl and templates/styles/spiral/registration-spiral.tpl.tpl
[17:58] jonnyb :D
[17:58] jonnyb not used it myself - maybe it's broken?
[17:58] jonnyb curiously was looking in that area just now
[17:59] Jyhem_laptop I don't know. Never used it myself either. Luckily, if I can use a wiki page it will also be good for me. More of an exploratory move.
[18:00] Jyhem_laptop I can guess you were :(
[18:09] changi RobertPlummer: will be available in 2 hours to release
[18:09] changi but only if you fix the maketoc :)
[18:09] changi bbl
[18:10] RobertPlummer changi: you got it
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[18:28] xavi time to disconnect.
[18:28] xavi see you guys
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[18:45] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42100 10/branches/9.x/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [FIX] Only check for attachments if the property is set to have them
[18:56] Jyhem_laptop Can I change a wiki page into a template ?
[18:56] Jyhem_laptop I get "Permission denied: the specified wiki page cannot be used as Smarty template resource"
[18:59] jonnyb Jyhem_laptop: there's a perm for that
[18:59] jonnyb best done with a category perm i seem to remember
[19:06] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42101 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/UserGroups.php: [FIX] trackers: Cheap fix for searching UserGroup fields by adding a plain "_text" version (e.g. search use {filter field="tracker_field_groups_text" content="Customers"} in the {list} plugin)
[19:06] jonnyb ok, off for today - more tomorrow
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[19:12] Jyhem_laptop it worked, thx jonny
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[19:31] changi RobertPlummer: maketoc problem is only with & transform to &amp;, not for < or "
[19:33] changi RobertPlummer: problem come from line 112 in parserlib
[19:35] changi RobertPlummer: the test line 111 seems weird according to the comment just above
[19:47] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42102 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php:
[19:47] CIA-91 tikiwiki: [FIX] if we want CKEDITOR to parse once maybe we shouldn't check not(ckeditor)
[19:47] CIA-91 tikiwiki: [FIX] Also fix &amp; in maketoc
[20:00] changi should i start the release of 9.0 ?
[20:05] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Batch upload of pages or tracker items? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44246
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[20:34] RobertPlummerMob changi: you have a link to the page where the toc is encoded?
[20:34] RobertPlummerMob I think I have it fixed, but I'm afraid to commit without fully testing.
[20:43] RobertPlummer oh woops I see your fix.
[20:45] RobertPlummer changi: Go ahead
[20:47] changi RobertPlummer: apparently jonny is not so ok with my fix
[20:48] RobertPlummer changi: Lets roll it back and go ahead and release.  We can fix it post tiki 9.0
[20:48] RobertPlummer changi: Can you roll it back?
[20:50] changi yes i can
[20:52] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42103 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [ROLLBACK][FIX] if we want CKEDITOR to parse once maybe we shouldn't check not(ckeditor)
[20:58] changi RobertPlummer: for the exemple, just create a page with !w&s !w""" !&& and a {maketoc}
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[20:59] RobertPlummer changi, this is edge case
[20:59] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42104 10/branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 9.0
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[21:00] RobertPlummer changi: The reason is the the parser looks for '& ' (with space after it) and protects them, it does not however protect '&' (no space after) because it could be part of an already encoded character.
[21:01] RobertPlummer changi: For example &amp; would show up &amp;amp; if we didn't handle it like this.
[21:01] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42105 10/branches/9.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 9.0
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[21:02] RobertPlummer changi: I sort of can't remember the whole problem induced by not converting '& ', but I remember it being a pretty big deal.
[21:02] changi can we introduce a \& to protect it ?
[21:02] RobertPlummer already a way to: ~np~&~/np~ (I believe)
[21:03] RobertPlummer I could be wrong there though.
[21:03] changi the problem is that it's only in maketoc that we have the problem
[21:03] changi in the title it's ok
[21:03] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42106 10/branches/9.x/lang/ (49 files in 49 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 9.0
[21:04] changi ricks99: >> There were already some commits for the same final version number in the changelog. Merging them with the new ones.
[21:04] changi ricks99: >> Changelog updated with 87 new commits (revision 42103 to 41938), excluding duplicates, merges and release-related commits.
[21:04] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42107 10/branches/9.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.0
[21:05] RobertPlummer changi: It may be simple to fix.... but it may not be.
[21:05] changi ricks99: Copyrights updated: No new contributor, +252 commit(s)
[21:05] changi RobertPlummer: check if we are in maketoc ?
[21:05] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42108 10/branches/9.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.0
[21:07] RobertPlummer I have the fix changi!
[21:07] RobertPlummer may I commit?
[21:07] changi yes
[21:07] RobertPlummer Too late for 9.0?
[21:07] changi no
[21:07] changi you will not be in the stats :)
[21:08] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42109 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [FIX] maketoc being double html handled
[21:08] RobertPlummer done
[21:08] RobertPlummer proceed.
[21:10] Bsfez Sound like something is coming out the oven soon. :)
[21:11] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42110 10/branches/9.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.0
[21:11] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42111 10/branches/9.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.0
[21:11] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42112 10/branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 9.0
[21:14] changi RobertPlummer: did you see the email from oliver talking about tpl missing ?
[21:15] RobertPlummer I see mod-calendar.tpl.nocache, it seems to look for mod-calendar.tpl
[21:16] RobertPlummer not the .nocache part.
[21:16] RobertPlummer Do we just change the pointer?
[21:18] changi RobertPlummer: yes seems to work
[21:18] RobertPlummer commit
[21:19] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42113 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-minical.tpl: [FIX] Wrong reference
[21:19] changi :)
[21:20] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42114 10/branches/9.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.0
[21:21] changi never 2 without 3 :)
[21:21] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42115 10/branches/9.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.0
[21:22] ricks99 changi: do u have info on #transactions from 8.4 -> 9.0 and #contributors?
[21:22] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42116 10/branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 9.0
[21:24] changi ricks99: 1014 commits 27 contrib
[21:24] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42117 10/tags/9.0/: [REL] Tagging release
[21:26] changi ricks99: +11 commits of today : 1025 commits
[21:27] ricks99 thanks!
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[21:33] changi oh marc :)
[21:37] marclaporte hi changi!
[21:38] marclaporte what do you think of http://project-builder.org/ ?
[21:44] changi marclaporte: don't know it
[21:44] * changi tiki9 is on sf, please test
[21:48] changi RobertPlummer: !
[21:48] changi Jyhem_laptop: !
[21:48] changi marclaporte: !
[21:48] changi Bsfez: !
[21:49] RobertPlummer changi: WOOOHOOO!
[21:51] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42118 10/branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Closing 9.0 release
[21:51] Bsfez changi:  yes ?
[21:51] changi Bsfez: tiki9 is on sf, please tes
[21:51] changi :)
[21:52] Bsfez Ahhh… :D My 70s Carvin is back from repair i was testing it (100watts beast) ! updating. :)
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[22:08] Bsfez Installer show 9.1 pre ?
[22:11] Bsfez and a few error, notice while finishing install
[22:11] Bsfez http://pastebin.com/W07Sh2bd
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[22:14] Bsfez Aoutch Fatal on editing an article freshly created:
[22:15] Bsfez Fatal error: Call to a member function getTranslations() on a non-object in /var/..../subdomains/scd/html_9/tiki-edit_article.php on line 652 Call Stack: 0.0016 1075048 1. {main}() /var/.../subdomains/scd/html_9/tiki-edit_article.php:0
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[22:16] changi Bsfez: notice is because you haven't set timezone in your php.ini
[22:16] Bsfez reproduced
[22:18] changi Bsfez: did you enable multilingue on article ?
[22:19] Bsfez this tw is multingual and article show translation so i believe the answer is yes. checking
[22:19] changi i have one too, and can't reproduce
[22:19] Jyhem Oh, I was preparing a salad.
[22:19] changi RobertPlummer: can you merge code to trunk ?
[22:19] * Jyhem svn ups
[22:20] RobertPlummer merging
[22:20] changi Bsfez: can you pastbin the full error ?
[22:21] changi Bsfez: ok get it
[22:21] changi :)
[22:21] Bsfez :)
[22:22] changi fixed
[22:22] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42119 10/branches/9.x/tiki-edit_article.php: [FIX] Missing object
[22:23] changi Bsfez: can you check
[22:23] changi will destroy tag 9.0
[22:24] Bsfez yes (tks for php.ini corrected)
[22:25] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42120 10/tags/9.0/: [FIX] Need one more fix
[22:27] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42121 10/branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 9.0
[22:27] * changi rereleasing
[22:27] Bsfez changi:  edit article tested and re tested work fine now, great !
[22:28] changi any other issue ?
[22:28] Bsfez checking :)
[22:29] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42122 10/branches/9.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.0
[22:29] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42123 10/branches/9.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.0
[22:30] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42124 10/branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 9.0
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[22:31] g0th hi
[22:31] g0th is it possible/advisable to list network shares on tiki wiki?
[22:32] Bsfez changi: Mmmm article clipping in newsletter is empty (i just made 3 articles to test edit that should be here)… Investigating
[22:32] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42125 10/tags/9.0/: [REL] Tagging release
[22:32] g0th help
[22:32] g0th !help
[22:32] Tiki|bot You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tiki.org/TikiBot .
[22:33] changi g0th: natively not, you will need to build a php code
[22:34] Bsfez g0th: Hello we just made a release ppl are pretty busy, but be patient. :) (i don't know your answer)
[22:35] g0th changi: I have to setup wiki for a research group, they told me that they would like to have some web folder where they can organize their files
[22:35] g0th it is like 1-2 TB of data
[22:36] g0th so far it is on a network share
[22:36] changi g0th: goal is to link file in wiki, in order to download it ?
[22:37] g0th we plan to put the wiki server in another network (university net), but we would liek to keep the data on the (local) network share because of speed issues
[22:37] g0th changi: yes
[22:37] Bsfez changi: found the reason; there is an issue now with the article date.
[22:37] g0th changi: and to search it
[22:37] g0th but that's second prority
[22:37] g0th priority*
[22:38] g0th so I could link to a local network address, which will work in the correct network
[22:38] g0th but the problem is: then this would need to be done each time a file is added or removed (so _NO_)
[22:39] g0th one possibility might be to just make a link to the parent folder of everything, but that's kind of "not" elegant and kind of defeats the purpose of integrating it in a wiki
[22:39] changi g0th: we don't have such a feature.
[22:39] g0th do other wikis have that?
[22:40] changi g0th: your webserver will be on linux or windows
[22:40] g0th e.g. mediawiki?
[22:40] g0th linux
[22:40] Bsfez changi:  on shell date show me : Tue Jun 26 23:37:14 IDT 2012 which is correct. When i create my article it show "Jun 26 2012 23:37:14 UTC" which is wrong should be IDT and not UTC. After saving the date displayed for the article is Jun 27 2012 02:37 UTC which is surely wrong.
[22:40] g0th changi: I just need to find some kind of solution, it does not need to be perfect ^^
[22:40] changi g0th: maybe you could mount the windows share using smbmount
[22:40] g0th one solution is: I can just tell them that it is not possible ;)
[22:41] Bsfez changi: note that i tried to change date manually (edit article) but the article keep the previous date (wrong) Jun 27 2012 02:37 UTC
[22:41] g0th changi: yes of course
[22:41] g0th changi: I assumed that would be the first thing to do
[22:41] g0th changi: but does this work as intended?
[22:41] g0th it will not cause problems/etc?
[22:42] changi changi: and then you will need to create a virtual folder in apache
[22:42] changi g0th: link in wiki page will need to point on that virtual folder
[22:43] changi g0th: for you second problem, "search", you will need to hook the search lib to add this folder in the lucene index
[22:43] changi Bsfez: maybe linked to the timezone configuration ?
[22:43] g0th so make smbmount of the main shared folder and mount it on the webpage directory (or maybe use symlinks with the corresponding settings), then I can link to it and its directories on the wiki page
[22:44] g0th ok thanks
[22:44] changi g0th: it's not perfect but it will work
[22:44] g0th still some issues (e.g. the share is behind a vpn connection from another net)
[22:44] g0th but that I have to solve anyway somehow
[22:45] changi share is on windows ?
[22:45] g0th cifs share yes
[22:45] Bsfez changi: well tw show me the right time ; Last update from SVN (9.0): Tuesday 26 of June, 2012 23:26:59 IDT- REV 42121… going on the admin panel
[22:45] changi Bsfez: can you test to publish a blog post ? jsut to check the publish date
[22:46] g0th if a user uploads something to the wiki it will even appear on the cifs share (thats cool :)
[22:46] changi g0th: no, cifs is only a readonly fs in my solution
[22:46] Bsfez ok
[22:46] g0th changi: why only readonly?
[22:47] changi documents need to be uploaded in cifs and then added in wiki
[22:47] g0th you mean for the search thingy?
[22:47] g0th why do I have to add them manually?
[22:47] g0th can't I have a folder view?
[22:47] g0th that gets updated when the folder gets updated?
[22:47] changi because tiki doesn't provide a fs controller to store file
[22:47] g0th it has no web fs?
[22:48] g0th or web folder whatever
[22:48] changi g0th: it has one, but we rename all file using GUID
[22:48] changi g0th: no webfolder
[22:49] g0th so it is not possible to "mirror the wiki folder structure"  with a system fs folder structure?
[22:49] g0th hmm
[22:49] changi g0th: no because wiki is stored in DB
[22:50] changi g0th: if you want a plain text wiki, you should look at dokuwiki
[22:50] g0th I am just thinking what I should do
[22:50] Bsfez changi: tw was set to use server timezone but i also set tw timezone to asia/jerusalem (IDT). Blog is ok going back to article.
[22:51] g0th in my oppinion it is stupud to let the user upload all their results to the wiki
[22:51] g0th they will be lazy and it won't be done
[22:51] g0th and it creates two "duplicate" systems
[22:51] g0th stupid*
[22:52] g0th unless we move everything to the wiki from the start but then we have the connection speed problem again
[22:52] changi what file do you have in the shar e?
[22:52] g0th articles/thesis, simulation results, some pictures, some information/documents
[22:53] g0th all kinds of things
[22:53] g0th I guess I should make it a static wiki
[22:54] Bsfez changi: work fine now. I wonder if this behavior is normal. Why would it be required to set TW timezone if we first set TW to use server timezone ?
[22:54] g0th and leave all new things (like new articles/thesis/etc) on the network share
[22:54] RobertPlummerMob sending merge
[22:54] g0th i.e. just put important templates/useful scripts/etc on the wiki, i.e. stuff that is always useful
[22:54] changi g0th: if articles and thesis are on doc / xls, you should leave them in the share
[22:55] g0th hmm yeah
[22:55] g0th also pdf?
[22:55] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42126 10/trunk/ (62 files in 57 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 42093 to 42124
[22:56] g0th hmm, I really have to think about this, I definitely want to have links to some doc/xls/whatever files
[22:57] g0th they don't need to be "printed" on the wiki but the wiki is an information source where all kind of useful stuff is, so we want to link to all kind of useful stuff
[22:57] g0th hmm, do I have the wrong idea how to approach this?
[22:58] changi do new document be stored on the share to be accessible from intranet ?
[22:58] g0th hmm?
[22:58] g0th they are accessible through the intranet
[22:59] g0th the server is outside of it through vpn, but everyone on the intranet has the vpn connection
[22:59] CIA-91 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42127 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ (6 files): ~QUALITY~ see qa.tiki.org
[22:59] g0th the main university offers a lot of web services/maintainance, so the idea was to put the server on the main university net
[23:00] g0th the wiki is only accessed from people from the intranet
[23:00] Bsfez :( still there is a problem with Newsletter. I have prepared a new one with different content than yesterday's last one, the preview was fine but the email i received is the old one.
[23:00] g0th maybe also from outside in case someone of those goes home, but then he would connect to the main university net anyway
[23:01] Bsfez for the little i have seen the rest look fine.
[23:01] changi Bsfez: i'm not familiar with nl so if you say it's broken, i believe you
[23:02] Bsfez Tks for your work Changi (and release team)… time to go dodo ! :)
[23:02] changi g0th: maybe you don't understand my previous question, will all new publications be stored to both wiki and  share ?
[23:03] changi Bsfez: from which timezone are you ?
[23:03] * changi is 23:03 :)
[23:03] * Bsfez is 00:03
[23:04] changi g0th: is the wiki solution the new publication system or is it only another way to publish things ?
[23:04] changi Bsfez: so goodnight :)
[23:04] Bsfez Bonne nuit… i bet on your timezone now :D
[23:05] changi Bsfez: Danke !!
[23:06] changi RobertPlummer: Can you send the email on devlist ?
[23:06] changi RobertPlummer: thx for the merge
[23:06] Bsfez Herrr… gutnacth (or something close) cu tomorrow. :)
[23:07] changi g0th: ?
[23:07] RobertPlummer changi: Can you change the featured download on freenode and sourceforge?
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[23:08] Bsfez ARRRR !!! I found what is wrong with the newsletter… Sending to the list. :)
[23:09] g0th re
[23:09] g0th changi: that's to be determinned
[23:10] g0th the connection is too slow I guess
[23:10] g0th to put everything on the wiki
[23:10] Jyhem From my limited testing, it looks good.
[23:10] changi g0th: so it's a mixed solution ?
[23:10] changi Jyhem: thx
[23:10] g0th I guess
[23:10] g0th but I want to avoid duplication
[23:10] Jyhem I need to go to sleep (meeting early tomorrow)
[23:10] changi Jyhem: see ya
[23:10] g0th because from experience I know that the users will be too lazy
[23:11] changi g0th: yes, you're right
[23:11] Jyhem changi: sure (I won't be far, BTW :) )
[23:11] changi RobertPlummer: don't know how to do that
[23:11] g0th maybe if we make some kind of clear distinction what goes on the wiki and what not
[23:11] changi marclaporte: can you update the channel info
[23:11] g0th wiki stuff is _only_ on the wiki and the rest only on the shared account
[23:12] g0th I just thought it would have been nice if it was possible to somehow make a web view of the shared network share
[23:12] g0th -shared
[23:14] g0th changi: hmm or am I using the wrong wiki?
[23:16] changi g0th: no, the first solution i gave you earlier i the best i can provide. The only thing, is that file publication will need to be store on the share and linked in the wiki using the webfolder i told you
[23:17] g0th changi: hmm, why not directly upload everything that goes on the wiki instead?
[23:17] g0th since there is no sync between the wiki and the share anyway I don't really see the point to keep it on the share
[23:18] g0th resp. it could stay but why does it _have_ to, I am not following :(
[23:18] g0th in any case, thanks for all the help/information :)
[23:19] changi because wiki in tiki is text that are stored in database, you cannot store file using tiki to a webfolder
[23:20] g0th what would I use for stuff like that?
[23:21] g0th mediawiki is the same I guess?
[23:21] changi g0th: yep
[23:21] g0th so if I want to store non wiki text stuff I need some kind of cms/web server
[23:21] g0th or I use the solution you just suggested
[23:21] changi g0th: yep :)
[23:21] changi need to sleep
[23:21] g0th one last question
[23:22] g0th what do you think makes more sense
[23:22] g0th cms or your solution?
[23:22] g0th I guess the second because wiki has so many advantages, like beeing simple
[23:23] changi what is for you the difference between wiki and cms ? because tiki is a cms (and more)
[23:23] g0th hmm, I guess I meant a webserver
[23:23] changi ok was a joke.
[23:24] changi i would take the second :)
[23:24] g0th ok ^^
[23:24] changi so welcome in tiki :)
[23:24] g0th thx and gnight
[23:24] changi see ya
[23:24] g0th see ya
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