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marclaporte: Can anyone test http://tiki.org/Major+use+cases ?
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<br> what is the syntax for an IF(var=somevalue) .... ELSE statement in Tiki?
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fidel: {GROUP(groups=Admins)}
<br> looking for something like that kstingel|lurking ?
<br> that checks if user is part of the admin group - otherwise the content will not be visible for him im read-mode
<br> {ELSE}
<br> {GROUP}
kstingel|lurking: not quite fidel .... I was looking to make an internal toc depending on which structure was viewed
fidel: to end this mini-example
kstingel|lurking: {IF(structure=book)}
<br> *((this page))
<br> {ELSE} {* show web copy *}
<br> *((other page))
<br> {/IF}
<br> when I tried adding that to the page, my IF statement appeared as text
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xavi: polom
<br> is it only me, or there is some problem with object permissions in current tiki9 svn?
<br> wiki pages lost the button change object permissions...
<br> also for users with tiki_p_admin ...
<br> and tiki-list_object_permissions.php yields WSOD...
<br> WSOD because of memmory exhausted error with 128Mb of RAM...
<br> mmm
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xavi: kstingel|lurking: btw, that "if else" logic that you were asking has to be done at smarty level, afaik
<br> at least with current code
kstingel: thanks xavi
xavi: mmmm, btw, I confirm that we have a new regression (blocker, imho) in 9x regading permissions
<br> the button for object permisions in wiki pages is gone
<br> during the changes in svn in the last 3 weeks or so...
<br> maybe due to the changes in externals (smarty, adodb, ...)
<br> I dunno why, but I know that after doing svn up in a site from June 7th (r41838) until today (r42089), that button is gone....
<br> and nowadays, I get WSOD (128Mb memory exhausted) at tiki-list_object_permissions.php
<br> <u>Jyhem_laptop</u>: ? ^
<br> can you get the "permissions" button below wiki pages as usual in current svn 9x?
<br> well, I'll drop a note at the page about regressions in 9x
-: Jyhem_laptop looking
Jyhem_laptop: r42078 → I can't understand what your issue is
<br> there is a "Permissions" button and clicking gets to tiki-objectpermissions.php?objectId=…
<br> did I misunderstand the problem or should I svn up ?
<br> <u>xavi</u>: ^
xavi: he he, Jyhem_laptop, which revision are you at?
<br> you'll probably miss that button when you svn up :-)
<br> that happened to me in two different server, two differnt tiki9 installs....
Jyhem_laptop: <u>xavi</u>: well, I just did svn up (r42078 was from yesterday anyway) and I still see "Permissions"
<br> yes, I cleared cache
xavi: mmmm, lucky you! :-)
Jyhem_laptop: try another theme?
xavi: ok, I'll try
<br> so far, I miss that button after the update in feb12 and mollio...
<br> I presume it's not theme related...
<br> which theme are you using, Jyhem_laptop?
<br> I reproduced the issue in fivealive
<br> also
Jyhem_laptop: an eatlon derivative
<br> forget it: I see Permissions with fivealive, too
-: Jyhem_laptop svn ups externals
xavi: ah, of course, I presume that the problem might come with the update of externals (sdodb, smarty...9
<br> ...
-: xavi wonders why externals needed to be upgradeed at this time of the pre-9.0 release....
Jyhem_laptop: I think they were pinned so late because there was this last jquery version before jquery does a major upgrade. They are now pinned
<br> <u>xavi</u>: YES! The externals are upgraded and now I have no "Permissions" buton :-(
xavi: ok, we have some trouble here...
-: xavi still wonders why the pinning of externals was not done just AFTER 9.0 was released...
<br> xavi wonders if this update of externals can be reverted...
<br> Jyhem_laptop just discovered how to buffer-scroll in screen :) So I can tel which are the suspects: lib/adodb lib/smarty lib/jquery.sheet
Jyhem_laptop: My guess: lib/smarty
<br> error log is empty :(
xavi: :-7
<br> :-/
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Bsfez1: Ola xavi, Salut Jyhem...
xavi: hi Bsfez1
Jyhem_laptop: Hello Bsfez1
<br> <u>xavi</u>: found it. It seems that we can't have tabs used as spaces inside smarty plugins any more
xavi: ok
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CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r42091 10/branches/9.x/templates/ (6 files): [FIX] Apparently, following last smart upgrade, we can't use tabs as spaces inside smarty plugins any more
Jyhem_laptop: <u>xavi</u>: have a try.
-: Jyhem_laptop goes for food
xavi: thks Jyhem_laptop, I will in short
<br> hi Jyhem, this fixed the issue with the permissions button at the page bar in wiki pages (thks! :-)
<br> I 'm still missing the permissions button for bigbluebutton plugin... (maybe it's a different issue, or just I forgot something... even if as far as I remember, the perms button showed up automagically for users with tiki_p_admin perm... and the plugin bbb in a wiki page....)
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<br> polom
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Jyhem_laptop: <u>xavi</u>: same thing with BBB
xavi: back
<br> mmmm
<br> is there a way to grep for that case that needs to be replaced for something else due to this new smarty setting?
<br> grep in ALL tiki code...
<br> ?
Jyhem_laptop: ??? I only grepped in templates. It's a smarty issue
xavi: then why is it failing with bbb?
Jyhem_laptop: and it's not an "easy grep". Don't believe Marc :)
-: xavi doesn't get it
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Jyhem_laptop: because I missed it the first time!
xavi: ? because in PluginBBB the issue is not in a template?
<br> and therefore, there might be other places where the issue still resides/exists?
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r42092 10/branches/9.x/templates/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Apparently, following last smart upgrade, we can't use tabs as spaces inside smarty plugins any more
-: xavi still fearing the side effects on that last minute upgrade of externals...
xavi: ok, thanks Jyhem_laptop
Jyhem_laptop: I grepped for all tabs following a non-tab (meaning, I ignored all the start of lineindentation tabs) and I got plenty of matches :-( So I had to look visually, and that's not perfect.
<br> Turns out, we have plenty of tabs at ends of lines ??? And mixes of tabs and spaces at the start of lines
<br> and a big syntax clean up is NOT to be done while there are branche merges. So I just tried to correct the ones inside {button } tags
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CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r42093 10/branches/9.x/templates/comment-footer.tpl: [FIX] Apparently, following last smarty upgrade, we can't use tabs as spaces inside smarty plugins any more
xavi: thanks Jyhem_laptop
Jyhem_laptop: np
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42094 10/trunk/ (lib/prefslib.php templates/prefs/shared-dependencies.tpl): [NEW] Features get the ability to have a profile as a dependency by setting an array with the parent key in lib/prefs/feature 'dependencies' of 'profiles'
<br> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42095 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [ENH] Need profile to run
RobertPlummerMob: hopefully that last commit is one the community wants.
<br> xavi, Jyhem_laptop, jonnyb: What do you guys think?
xavi: as far as the extension of what some of you already did in trunk, I'm ok with it
<br> but as I told you yesterday, RobertPlummer, this should be avoided for basic tiki features
<br> I don't know invoice, for instance
<br> but if a feature is shown in the main app panel once you enable it...
<br> something should be usable already in tiki, without the need of extra profile applicatiojn, etc.
RobertPlummerMob: But xavi, the installer page has profiles on it. Why is that shown all the time and not to advanced users?
xavi: on teh contrary, for some extra features,e tc,. ok to get them from profiles
RobertPlummerMob: Could it not be assumed that the admin is a more advanced user than say a registered user.
xavi: ? installer page has no profiles in it since many years ago, afaik
RobertPlummerMob: When you log into tiki the first time after install, it mentions profiles.
jonnyb: hi RobertPlummerMob - prefs that depend on a profile? could be useful i guess
xavi: yes, of course, that's a good way to talk the admin about them
RobertPlummerMob: Easy Setup using Profiles
<br> Edit Section
<br> Get Started using Profiles
<br> Who Should Use This
<br> You want to get started quickly
<br> You don't feel like learning the Admin Panel right away
<br> You want to quickly test out some of Tiki's Features
xavi: RobertPlummer I know all that (I've translated all the strings several times in several languages across a few years)
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xavi: but this is not the installer
<br> that' s what I mean
RobertPlummerMob: So I don't understand why then if they are adopted by the community that they are treated like a red headed step child in this regard. ;)
<br> All that change is has a link to apply the profile.
xavi: I don't understand where is the problem, as far as this is a follow up of the same behavior
jonnyb: not keen on changing the format of pref dependencies
<br> was a flat array, now sometimes has keys? sounds dangerous, no?
-: xavi feels he is in the wrong discussion
RobertPlummerMob: <u>jonnyb</u>: Not a change to existing, just an ability to add more.
jonnyb: guess the code looks ok, probably a good idea
RobertPlummerMob: xavi, you feel you are wrong, jonnyb is wrong or I'm wrong?
jonnyb: sry xavi
xavi: RobertPlummer, discuss the internals of your commit with devs that can comment in the way you code it, if that 's what you are asking opinion on
<br> I'm not the right person to provide feedback on that, I'm afraid,
jonnyb: xavi, i finally have your huge db running locally, going to try the newsletter thing at last! :)
RobertPlummerMob: xavi, I know, but as an admin who does commit you are a respected developer.
xavi: thanks RobertPlummer, I appreciate, but I have to remind you of my limited skills
<br> thks jonnyb !
jonnyb: ok, have the same bug here, on the case...
RobertPlummerMob: <u>xavi</u>: We were not born with these skills, aren't you a phd?
xavi: phd doesn't mean that you can learn any new programing language (and debugging environment) in a few weeks
RobertPlummerMob: touch�
xavi: and I'm a slow learner... (way slower than the avarage)
-: xavi has been considered an "outlier" in many scenarios...
RobertPlummerMob: xavi I think you underestimate you mad science / computer skills.
<br> *your
<br> xavi, I digress, back to work
xavi: well, whatever, thanks RobertPlummer. the real facts are that I still can't debug my own bugs..
<br> ok, back to work :-)
-: xavi still has in his todo list to download and install phpstorm, and/or some debugging environment for php/mysql, etc.
RobertPlummerMob: running a merge
<br> xavi You don't have php storm yet?!?!?
xavi: :-D
<br> nope
RobertPlummerMob: <u>xavi</u>: The next time you need to do any coding in tiki, stop everything and download it.
xavi: well, yes, somewhere... but probably in the wrong computer,e tc
RobertPlummerMob: <u>xavi</u>: jonnyb will testify. It has saved me soooo much time.
changi: hi guys,
xavi: hi changi
changi: a non blocker issue, but a funny one, and maybe an easy to solve,
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RobertPlummerMob: xavi when I was working on the old parser I used upwards of 70 hours. If I had used notepad, I would have easily doubled it. phpstorm is a real time saver.
changi: maketoc display &amp; instead of &
xavi: RobertPlummer, did you notice that the link from the calendar (trackerlist as calendar) is still wrong, even after the fixes you did yesterday?
jonnyb: hi changi - ew, entities again?
RobertPlummerMob: Let me check it.
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: sounds like an easy fix, is_html probably needs set.
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: WHen you get to a conflict in merge what action do you take?
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: I've been just rolling the conflict back, in short accepting myn.
xavi: <u>RobertPlummerMob</u>: it seems that the url is nowadays working as expected (nice)
<br> maybe cache thing
<br> but fixed
jonnyb: <u>RobertPlummerMob</u>: it depends
RobertPlummerMob: Very good.
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: language file
jonnyb: for lang i use mc (mine-conflict)
<br> trunk takes precedence on lang files
<br> most other ones i do postpone and do visually (in phpstorm of course! ;) )
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RobertPlummerMob: <u>jonnyb</u>: I'll do that next time around. Thanks for the pointer.
xavi: <u>RobertPlummerMob</u>: any easy fix to get the first day of the calendar (in trackerlist view as calendar) to get the setting in the calendar admin panel, for instance?
<br> <u>example</u>: http://intercanvis.net/XIC%20Connecta%20Francesc%20Candel&refresh=1
<br> I get Sunday as the first day of teh week (but it will easily get mistaken as monday, since all days in Catalan start with "D"... and that mini calendar just displays 2 letters for the day...
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<br> Hi
<br> there is a way to increase default font of wiki?
xavi: hi quonter: you have to play with the css of the theme style that you use
Jyhem_laptop: polom jonnyb & RobertPlummerMob
ricks99: <u>quonter</u>: do you mean the font-size? yes, you can add custom css on the Admin: Look & Feel page
xavi: there is not a single setting to increase all fonts
<br> hi ricks99
quonter: not all font, just wikis
xavi: <u>quonter</u>: I meant that
<br> all fonts in the wiki (for instance)
RobertPlummerMob: polom Jyhem_laptop
quonter: So... im goin to my .css file ;/ Tnx
ricks99: <u>quonter</u>: just find the container element ID, and set the font-size for it to be 120%. it will cascade to all elements
Jyhem_laptop: Hmmm
-: Jyhem_laptop wonders on the difference between tiki_p_subscribe_groups and tiki_p_group_join
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42097 10/branches/9.x/tiki-send_newsletters.php: [FIX] newsletters: Curious edge case on some very big pages causing $info['data'] to be set to null when using wiki page as content template (thanks xavi)
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CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42098 10/branches/9.x/lang/es/language.php: a few more strings translated
jonnyb: <u>xavi</u>: try r42097 when you can
Jyhem_laptop: Anyway, I have set up self-registrable groups, I set admin → login so that these groups can be selected at login, with a registration tracker (same one for all). I try to register and I get the correct choice of groups but whichever I choose (even Registered) gets me "You do not have permission to insert an item" :-(
ricks99: need to set "create tracker item" for anonymous for that tracker
Jyhem_laptop: Oh, special perms for that tracker. Let me try
<br> YES! thanks ricks99. Now it displays no error but the tracker's description text :)
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<br> Hi again...
<br> how manually activate user?
<br> ok, i've found it in PA (tried to do it thru phpmyadmin :P)
Jyhem_laptop: grrrrr ! It actually displays the registration tracker form twice !!! :-(
ricks99: hm.. thats odd
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Jyhem_laptop: The tricky part is, if I let the standard "Registered" as only choice, the form is all there. When there is a choice, it should not be there at first. It should wait for some selection of available groupps
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CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42099 10/branches/9.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX]to allow seing the start and end of items from months_links module for blogs and articles
xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: I managed to fix some css issue without asking you! ^ (r42099)
-: xavi doing some progress
ricks99: you're the new css master!
xavi: jonnyb, ok, thanks testing...
-: Jyhem_laptop suggests an "install phpstorm" session at the start of the Barcelona Tikifest :)
xavi: :-)
<br> +1 to have a trainning on debugging session at the start of TikiFestBarcelona3 ... :-D
-: Jyhem_laptop has been curious about phpstorm but never found time to install it
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xavi: <u>jonnyb</u>: your fixed worked like a charm in the newsletters
<br> thanks for fixing
<br> s/your fixed/your fix
jonnyb: np, glad to help!
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RobertPlummer: <u>changi</u>: How is you free time today?
Jyhem_laptop: I try to use a tpl file for a registration tracker. I put the tpl name in "Admin" → "Admin Home" → "Log in" → "Use pretty trackers for registration form" but where should I put the corresponding registration-spiral.tpl file ?
jonnyb: hmmm, good q Jyhem_laptop - templates is guess (or templates/style/yourstyle?)
<br> is/i
Jyhem_laptop: Nope. Did that and → Missing wiki template page "registration-spiral.tpl"
<br> also tried templates/registration-spiral.tpl templates/registration-spiral.tpl.tpl
<br> and templates/styles/spiral/registration-spiral.tpl and templates/styles/spiral/registration-spiral.tpl.tpl
jonnyb: :D
<br> not used it myself - maybe it's broken?
<br> curiously was looking in that area just now
Jyhem_laptop: I don't know. Never used it myself either. Luckily, if I can use a wiki page it will also be good for me. More of an exploratory move.
<br> I can guess you were :(
changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: will be available in 2 hours to release
<br> but only if you fix the maketoc :)
<br> bbl
RobertPlummer: <u>changi</u>: you got it
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xavi: time to disconnect.
<br> see you guys
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CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42100 10/branches/9.x/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [FIX] Only check for attachments if the property is set to have them
Jyhem_laptop: Can I change a wiki page into a template ?
<br> I get "Permission denied: the specified wiki page cannot be used as Smarty template resource"
jonnyb: <u>Jyhem_laptop</u>: there's a perm for that
<br> best done with a category perm i seem to remember
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42101 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/UserGroups.php: [FIX] trackers: Cheap fix for searching UserGroup fields by adding a plain "_text" version (e.g. search use {filter field="tracker_field_groups_text" content="Customers"} in the {list} plugin)
jonnyb: ok, off for today - more tomorrow
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Jyhem_laptop: it worked, thx jonny
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changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: maketoc problem is only with & transform to &amp;, not for < or "
<br> <u>RobertPlummer</u>: problem come from line 112 in parserlib
<br> <u>RobertPlummer</u>: the test line 111 seems weird according to the comment just above
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42102 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] if we want CKEDITOR to parse once maybe we shouldn't check not(ckeditor)
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Also fix &amp; in maketoc
changi: should i start the release of 9.0 ?
Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Batch upload of pages or tracker items? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44246
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RobertPlummerMob: <u>changi</u>: you have a link to the page where the toc is encoded?
<br> I think I have it fixed, but I'm afraid to commit without fully testing.
RobertPlummer: oh woops I see your fix.
<br> <u>changi</u>: Go ahead
changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: apparently jonny is not so ok with my fix
RobertPlummer: <u>changi</u>: Lets roll it back and go ahead and release. We can fix it post tiki 9.0
<br> <u>changi</u>: Can you roll it back?
changi: yes i can
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42103 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [ROLLBACK][FIX] if we want CKEDITOR to parse once maybe we shouldn't check not(ckeditor)
changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: for the exemple, just create a page with !w&s !w""" !&& and a {maketoc}
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RobertPlummer: changi, this is edge case
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42104 10/branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 9.0
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RobertPlummer: <u>changi</u>: The reason is the the parser looks for '& ' (with space after it) and protects them, it does not however protect '&' (no space after) because it could be part of an already encoded character.
<br> <u>changi</u>: For example &amp; would show up &amp;amp; if we didn't handle it like this.
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42105 10/branches/9.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 9.0
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RobertPlummer: <u>changi</u>: I sort of can't remember the whole problem induced by not converting '& ', but I remember it being a pretty big deal.
changi: can we introduce a & to protect it ?
RobertPlummer: already a way to: ~np~&~/np~ (I believe)
<br> I could be wrong there though.
changi: the problem is that it's only in maketoc that we have the problem
<br> in the title it's ok
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changi: <u>ricks99</u>: >> There were already some commits for the same final version number in the changelog. Merging them with the new ones.
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: >> Changelog updated with 87 new commits (revision 42103 to 41938), excluding duplicates, merges and release-related commits.
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42107 10/branches/9.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.0
RobertPlummer: <u>changi</u>: It may be simple to fix.... but it may not be.
changi: <u>ricks99</u>: Copyrights updated: No new contributor, +252 commit(s)
<br> <u>RobertPlummer</u>: check if we are in maketoc ?
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42108 10/branches/9.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.0
RobertPlummer: I have the fix changi!
<br> may I commit?
changi: yes
RobertPlummer: Too late for 9.0?
changi: no
<br> you will not be in the stats :)
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42109 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [FIX] maketoc being double html handled
RobertPlummer: done
<br> proceed.
Bsfez: Sound like something is coming out the oven soon. :)
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42110 10/branches/9.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.0
<br> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42111 10/branches/9.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.0
<br> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42112 10/branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 9.0
changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: did you see the email from oliver talking about tpl missing ?
RobertPlummer: I see mod-calendar.tpl.nocache, it seems to look for mod-calendar.tpl
<br> not the .nocache part.
<br> Do we just change the pointer?
changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: yes seems to work
RobertPlummer: commit
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42113 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-minical.tpl: [FIX] Wrong reference
changi: :)
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42114 10/branches/9.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.0
changi: never 2 without 3 :)
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ricks99: <u>changi</u>: do u have info on #transactions from 8.4 -> 9.0 and #contributors?
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42116 10/branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 9.0
changi: <u>ricks99</u>: 1014 commits 27 contrib
CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42117 10/tags/9.0/: [REL] Tagging release
changi: <u>ricks99</u>: +11 commits of today : 1025 commits
ricks99: thanks!
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changi: oh marc :)
marclaporte: hi changi!
<br> what do you think of http://project-builder.org/ ?
changi: <u>marclaporte</u>: don't know it
-: changi tiki9 is on sf, please test
changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: !
<br> <u>Jyhem_laptop</u>: !
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: !
<br> <u>Bsfez</u>: !
RobertPlummer: <u>changi</u>: WOOOHOOO!
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Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: yes ?
changi: <u>Bsfez</u>: tiki9 is on sf, please tes
<br> :)
Bsfez: Ahhh… :D My 70s Carvin is back from repair i was testing it (100watts beast) ! updating. :)
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Bsfez: Installer show 9.1 pre ?
<br> and a few error, notice while finishing install
<br> http://pastebin.com/W07Sh2bd
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Bsfez: Aoutch Fatal on editing an article freshly created:
<br> Fatal error: Call to a member function getTranslations() on a non-object in /var/..../subdomains/scd/html_9/tiki-edit_article.php on line 652 Call Stack: 0.0016 1075048 1. {main}() /var/.../subdomains/scd/html_9/tiki-edit_article.php:0
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changi: <u>Bsfez</u>: notice is because you haven't set timezone in your php.ini
Bsfez: reproduced
changi: <u>Bsfez</u>: did you enable multilingue on article ?
Bsfez: this tw is multingual and article show translation so i believe the answer is yes. checking
changi: i have one too, and can't reproduce
Jyhem: Oh, I was preparing a salad.
changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: can you merge code to trunk ?
-: Jyhem svn ups
RobertPlummer: merging
changi: <u>Bsfez</u>: can you pastbin the full error ?
<br> <u>Bsfez</u>: ok get it
<br> :)
Bsfez: :)
changi: fixed
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changi: <u>Bsfez</u>: can you check
<br> will destroy tag 9.0
Bsfez: yes (tks for php.ini corrected)
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<br> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42121 10/branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 9.0
-: changi rereleasing
Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: edit article tested and re tested work fine now, great !
changi: any other issue ?
Bsfez: checking :)
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<br> hi
<br> is it possible/advisable to list network shares on tiki wiki?
Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: Mmmm article clipping in newsletter is empty (i just made 3 articles to test edit that should be here)… Investigating
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g0th: help
<br> !help
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changi: <u>g0th</u>: natively not, you will need to build a php code
Bsfez: <u>g0th</u>: Hello we just made a release ppl are pretty busy, but be patient. :) (i don't know your answer)
g0th: <u>changi</u>: I have to setup wiki for a research group, they told me that they would like to have some web folder where they can organize their files
<br> it is like 1-2 TB of data
<br> so far it is on a network share
changi: <u>g0th</u>: goal is to link file in wiki, in order to download it ?
g0th: we plan to put the wiki server in another network (university net), but we would liek to keep the data on the (local) network share because of speed issues
<br> <u>changi</u>: yes
Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: found the reason; there is an issue now with the article date.
g0th: <u>changi</u>: and to search it
<br> but that's second prority
<br> priority*
<br> so I could link to a local network address, which will work in the correct network
<br> but the problem is: then this would need to be done each time a file is added or removed (so _NO_)
<br> one possibility might be to just make a link to the parent folder of everything, but that's kind of "not" elegant and kind of defeats the purpose of integrating it in a wiki
changi: <u>g0th</u>: we don't have such a feature.
g0th: do other wikis have that?
changi: <u>g0th</u>: your webserver will be on linux or windows
g0th: e.g. mediawiki?
<br> linux
Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: on shell date show me : Tue Jun 26 23:37:14 IDT 2012 which is correct. When i create my article it show "Jun 26 2012 23:37:14 UTC" which is wrong should be IDT and not UTC. After saving the date displayed for the article is Jun 27 2012 02:37 UTC which is surely wrong.
g0th: <u>changi</u>: I just need to find some kind of solution, it does not need to be perfect ^^
changi: <u>g0th</u>: maybe you could mount the windows share using smbmount
g0th: one solution is: I can just tell them that it is not possible ;)
Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: note that i tried to change date manually (edit article) but the article keep the previous date (wrong) Jun 27 2012 02:37 UTC
g0th: <u>changi</u>: yes of course
<br> <u>changi</u>: I assumed that would be the first thing to do
<br> <u>changi</u>: but does this work as intended?
<br> it will not cause problems/etc?
changi: <u>changi</u>: and then you will need to create a virtual folder in apache
<br> <u>g0th</u>: link in wiki page will need to point on that virtual folder
<br> <u>g0th</u>: for you second problem, "search", you will need to hook the search lib to add this folder in the lucene index
<br> <u>Bsfez</u>: maybe linked to the timezone configuration ?
g0th: so make smbmount of the main shared folder and mount it on the webpage directory (or maybe use symlinks with the corresponding settings), then I can link to it and its directories on the wiki page
<br> ok thanks
changi: <u>g0th</u>: it's not perfect but it will work
g0th: still some issues (e.g. the share is behind a vpn connection from another net)
<br> but that I have to solve anyway somehow
changi: share is on windows ?
g0th: cifs share yes
Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: well tw show me the right time ; Last update from SVN (9.0): Tuesday 26 of June, 2012 23:26:59 IDT- REV 42121… going on the admin panel
changi: <u>Bsfez</u>: can you test to publish a blog post ? jsut to check the publish date
g0th: if a user uploads something to the wiki it will even appear on the cifs share (thats cool :)
changi: <u>g0th</u>: no, cifs is only a readonly fs in my solution
Bsfez: ok
g0th: <u>changi</u>: why only readonly?
changi: documents need to be uploaded in cifs and then added in wiki
g0th: you mean for the search thingy?
<br> why do I have to add them manually?
<br> can't I have a folder view?
<br> that gets updated when the folder gets updated?
changi: because tiki doesn't provide a fs controller to store file
g0th: it has no web fs?
<br> or web folder whatever
changi: <u>g0th</u>: it has one, but we rename all file using GUID
<br> <u>g0th</u>: no webfolder
g0th: so it is not possible to "mirror the wiki folder structure" with a system fs folder structure?
<br> hmm
changi: <u>g0th</u>: no because wiki is stored in DB
<br> <u>g0th</u>: if you want a plain text wiki, you should look at dokuwiki
g0th: I am just thinking what I should do
Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: tw was set to use server timezone but i also set tw timezone to asia/jerusalem (IDT). Blog is ok going back to article.
g0th: in my oppinion it is stupud to let the user upload all their results to the wiki
<br> they will be lazy and it won't be done
<br> and it creates two "duplicate" systems
<br> stupid*
<br> unless we move everything to the wiki from the start but then we have the connection speed problem again
changi: what file do you have in the shar e?
g0th: articles/thesis, simulation results, some pictures, some information/documents
<br> all kinds of things
<br> I guess I should make it a static wiki
Bsfez: <u>changi</u>: work fine now. I wonder if this behavior is normal. Why would it be required to set TW timezone if we first set TW to use server timezone ?
g0th: and leave all new things (like new articles/thesis/etc) on the network share
RobertPlummerMob: sending merge
g0th: i.e. just put important templates/useful scripts/etc on the wiki, i.e. stuff that is always useful
changi: <u>g0th</u>: if articles and thesis are on doc / xls, you should leave them in the share
g0th: hmm yeah
<br> also pdf?
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g0th: hmm, I really have to think about this, I definitely want to have links to some doc/xls/whatever files
<br> they don't need to be "printed" on the wiki but the wiki is an information source where all kind of useful stuff is, so we want to link to all kind of useful stuff
<br> hmm, do I have the wrong idea how to approach this?
changi: do new document be stored on the share to be accessible from intranet ?
g0th: hmm?
<br> they are accessible through the intranet
<br> the server is outside of it through vpn, but everyone on the intranet has the vpn connection
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g0th: the main university offers a lot of web services/maintainance, so the idea was to put the server on the main university net
<br> the wiki is only accessed from people from the intranet
Bsfez: :( still there is a problem with Newsletter. I have prepared a new one with different content than yesterday's last one, the preview was fine but the email i received is the old one.
g0th: maybe also from outside in case someone of those goes home, but then he would connect to the main university net anyway
Bsfez: for the little i have seen the rest look fine.
changi: <u>Bsfez</u>: i'm not familiar with nl so if you say it's broken, i believe you
Bsfez: Tks for your work Changi (and release team)… time to go dodo ! :)
changi: <u>g0th</u>: maybe you don't understand my previous question, will all new publications be stored to both wiki and share ?
<br> <u>Bsfez</u>: from which timezone are you ?
-: changi is 23:03 :)
<br> Bsfez is 00:03
changi: <u>g0th</u>: is the wiki solution the new publication system or is it only another way to publish things ?
<br> <u>Bsfez</u>: so goodnight :)
Bsfez: Bonne nuit… i bet on your timezone now :D
changi: <u>Bsfez</u>: Danke !!
<br> <u>RobertPlummer</u>: Can you send the email on devlist ?
<br> <u>RobertPlummer</u>: thx for the merge
Bsfez: Herrr… gutnacth (or something close) cu tomorrow. :)
changi: <u>g0th</u>: ?
RobertPlummer: <u>changi</u>: Can you change the featured download on freenode and sourceforge?
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Bsfez: ARRRR !!! I found what is wrong with the newsletter… Sending to the list. :)
g0th: re
<br> <u>changi</u>: that's to be determinned
<br> the connection is too slow I guess
<br> to put everything on the wiki
Jyhem: From my limited testing, it looks good.
changi: <u>g0th</u>: so it's a mixed solution ?
<br> <u>Jyhem</u>: thx
g0th: I guess
<br> but I want to avoid duplication
Jyhem: I need to go to sleep (meeting early tomorrow)
changi: <u>Jyhem</u>: see ya
g0th: because from experience I know that the users will be too lazy
changi: <u>g0th</u>: yes, you're right
Jyhem: <u>changi</u>: sure (I won't be far, BTW :) )
changi: <u>RobertPlummer</u>: don't know how to do that
g0th: maybe if we make some kind of clear distinction what goes on the wiki and what not
changi: <u>marclaporte</u>: can you update the channel info
g0th: wiki stuff is _only_ on the wiki and the rest only on the shared account
<br> I just thought it would have been nice if it was possible to somehow make a web view of the shared network share
<br> -shared
<br> <u>changi</u>: hmm or am I using the wrong wiki?
changi: <u>g0th</u>: no, the first solution i gave you earlier i the best i can provide. The only thing, is that file publication will need to be store on the share and linked in the wiki using the webfolder i told you
g0th: <u>changi</u>: hmm, why not directly upload everything that goes on the wiki instead?
<br> since there is no sync between the wiki and the share anyway I don't really see the point to keep it on the share
<br> resp. it could stay but why does it _have_ to, I am not following :(
<br> in any case, thanks for all the help/information :)
changi: because wiki in tiki is text that are stored in database, you cannot store file using tiki to a webfolder
g0th: what would I use for stuff like that?
<br> mediawiki is the same I guess?
changi: <u>g0th</u>: yep
g0th: so if I want to store non wiki text stuff I need some kind of cms/web server
<br> or I use the solution you just suggested
changi: <u>g0th</u>: yep :)
<br> need to sleep
g0th: one last question
<br> what do you think makes more sense
<br> cms or your solution?
<br> I guess the second because wiki has so many advantages, like beeing simple
changi: what is for you the difference between wiki and cms ? because tiki is a cms (and more)
g0th: hmm, I guess I meant a webserver
changi: ok was a joke.
<br> i would take the second :)
g0th: ok ^^
changi: so welcome in tiki :)
g0th: thx and gnight
changi: see ya
g0th: see ya
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