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RobertPlummerjonnyb: polom [00:19]
jonnybhey RobertPlummer - just testing some tarballs... [00:19]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: don't get stuck [00:20]
jonnybwell done all on 9.0 - it's taken a while, but glad it's out now at last! [00:20]
RobertPlummer(My sugar is at a perilous low)
jonnyb: You did most of the work :) 		[00:20]
jonnybavoid carbs? :P
no mate, i know what a strain being release-bot is, that's why i chickened out this time! :)
well done & thanks to you, Jyhem_laptop and all! 		[00:21]
luciashpolom and thanks for the 9.0 ! [00:37]
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luciashi get "A new version of Tiki, , is available. You are currently running SVN 9.0 pre. Please visit tiki.org/Download." <- it is missing the version number between the commas [00:44]
jonnybhi luciash
that update notice has been unreliable for ages, especially from svn
ok, enough for me, more tomorrow - nn 		[00:55]
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g0thchangi: moin, I read a bit more about file uploading in tiki wiki, it seems there are two modes: one can either upload it to the database or keep it in a directory. So for the second option it seems that "web folders" are possible, no? [08:21]
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changig0th: as i tell you yesterday, file are not stored with their real name but with a hash [10:42]
CIA-91tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42128 10/branches/9.x/lang/ (ca/language.php es/language.php): a few updates to strings from daily reports (mainly), in order to make it shorter while still clear enough [10:47]
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CIA-91tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42129 10/mods/trunk/Packages/ (3 files): [FIX] Some mistake [11:09]
xavig0th: ?
I did read the irc log from yesterday...
and regarding changi's answer ... http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-06-26,Tue&sel=565#l561 ...
I'd like to add that as far as I know, you can use web folders (webdav protocol) to upload files from the wiki pages (through file upload to webdav enabled file galleries)...
... and later on, access the same file galleries through some webdav powered file manager, adn see the human-readable file names instead of the hashes (as I understood that changi meant)
so as far as I understand your issue, you should be able to set up what you need with webdav folders in file galleries...
however, you should test before hand that the webdav powered client app of your users (denepending in your clients/users os and preferences, etc) works well enough with the webdav implementation we have in tiki
read (and test what it's explailned) this: https://doc.tiki.org/WebDav
hth
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CIA-91tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42130 10/branches/9.x/tiki-admin_modules.php: [FIX] modules: Don't sanitise user module data (Smarty markup) [12:03]
xavipolom.1 jonnyb
xavi doesn't know this dialect for poloms yet...
xavi uses this dialect from jonnyb, just in case... 		[12:07]
jonnybjonnyb just makes it up [12:09]
xavia css question for anyone: when using {img src="url2foo.jpg"... imalign="center"} the image is centered. So far so good. [12:09]
jonnybwas just doing my first fix for 9.1 :) [12:10]
xavibut when I add desc="click to enlarge" since the {img ...} params, the centering is lost
:-) 		[12:10]
CIA-91tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42131 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 42124 to 42130 [12:10]
xaviah ok,... [12:10]
jonnybik - img plugin gets messed about with on a regular basis - it's was too complex [12:10]
xaviok [12:10]
jonnybah, when you add desc it surrounds it all in a div, so you need to centre the div (or the thing that contains it) [12:11]
xaviok, so no easy fix, then? (example in images here http://ueb.vhir.org/blogpost6 ) [12:11]
jonnybmaybe the old ::wiki syntax:: way will do it? [12:11]
xavimmm, afair, ::foo:: doesn't fix it, but {CENTER()}foo{CENTER} does
I 've usually been doing this for months...
but I thought about reporting , just in case there was an easy fix for anyone (newcomers to Tiki, etc)
I was to ask ricks99 when he logs in... 		[12:12]
jonnybthere's probably a class you could apply to the containing div [12:13]
xaviok, don't worry, I'll ask Rick when he is on [12:13]
jonnybthe thing is that imalign uses the align attribute on the <img> tag, and an image plus a description is not just an image [12:14]
xavishall I ask you for a tiny fix in the article generator from rss feeds? (that ricks can't probably fix)
articles generated loose the link from the external source...
since that link was in the title, it seems... 		[12:14]
jonnybmaybe later [12:15]
xaviand tiki replaces that link for the link to the full version of the article... even if the full version doesn't contain anything else than the few lines from the ress, already shown in the heading...
ah, ok, sorry 		[12:15]
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CIA-91tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42132 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-tikipedia_tiki_7.info.txt: [FIX] No blankline in description [12:49]
Tiki|botInfo: Tiki Releases 9.0 - http://info.tiki.org/article195-Tiki-Releases-9-0 [12:55]
CIA-91tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42133 10/branches/9.x/lang/ (ca/language.php es/language.php): a few more strings (slowly progressing...) [13:08]
xavichangi?
I recently hit an error 500 in profiles.t.o
however, now I repeated the visit, and it loaded fine and fast 		[13:10]
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changixavi: was during nextwebsites upgrade [13:58]
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CIA-91tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42134 10/branches/9.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] search: New pref to set the Lucene default boolean operator - either OR or AND (default is OR) [14:08]
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chnagi: thks for info 		[14:37]
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CIA-91tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42135 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/HtmlBase.php: [ENH] Send actual parser and not a copy of it [15:02]
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42136 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php:
tikiwiki: [ENH] A few enhancements to make the parser easier to track by adding a $Parser variable that is the original parser even in a nested parser scenario
tikiwiki: [NEW] Added method addToHeaderStack that puts all the headers in a nested array so that they may be tracked and assembled later
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42137 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/maketoc.php: [ENH] make maketoc put headers into an html list 		[15:12]
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CIA-91tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42138 10/branches/9.x/lib/prefs/unified.php: [MOD] search: Make default fields input box wider [15:42]
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Good morning!
I'm looking for a hosting service to run Tikiwiki for a community group that I volunteer for. The wiki pages have a list of tiki-friendly hosts, but a lot of the information is out-of-date -- so I wanted to solicit a live opinion.
http://tiki.org/Tiki+Friendly+Hosts 		[16:17]
jonnybhi Luke_
where are you? does it matter where the hosting is done?
anywhere with fantastico or scriptalicious (isn't it?) will do these days 		[16:29]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Impossibilité de créer des galeries de fichiers ou de modifier l'existante - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=44261 [16:53]
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CIA-91tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42139 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-edit_help_plugins.tpl: [FIX] plugins: Send users to the right tab for plugin admin [19:06]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Intégration de WebSVN avec Tiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=7&comments_parentId=44265 [19:33]
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goodnight all
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tiki-install 9.0 dies with fatal PHP error, while tiki-8.4 works fine
where to file bugs?
should I ask here? 		[20:42]
marclaportehere is a good first place
Dwokfur: what is error message? 		[20:55]
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Dwokfurmarclaporte: first message Jun 27 19:53:29 kernel apache2: PHP Notice: unserialize(): Error at offset 0 of 5 bytes in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/tikiwiki/lib/setup/prefs.php on line 377
marclaporte: second line Jun 27 19:53:33 kernel apache2: PHP Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'SmartyException' with message 'directory '' not allowed by security setting' in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/tikiwiki/lib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_security.php:381
marclaporte: Jun 27 19:53:33 kernel Stack trace:
marclaporte: Jun 27 19:53:33 kernel #0 /var/www/localhost/htdocs/tikiwiki/lib/smarty/libs/plugins/function.html_image.php(114): Smarty_Security->isTrustedResourceDir('img/icons/green...')
marclaporte: Jun 27 19:53:33 kernel #1 /var/www/localhost/htdocs/tikiwiki/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php(212): smarty_function_html_image(Array, Object(Smarty_Internal_Template))
marclaporte: Jun 27 19:53:33 kernel #2 /var/www/localhost/htdocs/tikiwiki/templates_c/enbdb13e339b46aade55c78ddc060eb364^899478d8f66ae50789ef4567806e9fba159fb70d.file.remarksbox.tpl.php(35): smarty_function_icon(Array, Object(Smarty_Internal_Template))
marclaporte: Jun 27 19:53:33 kernel #3 /var/www/localhost/htdocs/tikiwiki/lib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_templatebase.php(180): content_4feb489d7e3299_95750395(Object(Smarty_Internal_Template))
marclaporte: Jun 27 19:53:33 kernel #4 /var/www/localhost/htdocs/tikiwiki/lib/init/smarty.php(194): Smarty_Internal_TemplateBase->fetch('remarksbox.tpl', 'enbdb13e339b46a...', in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/tikiwiki/lib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_security.php on line 381
marclaporte: that's it basically 		[21:15]
marclaporte: apache-2.2.22, php-5.4.4, gentoo install
marclaporte: tiki-8.4 runs fine
marclaporte: I'm using tikiwiki since before v1.7 or something - I do not even remember... :-) 		[21:23]
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Dwokfurmarclaporte: http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=4256
marclaporte: let me know what else I should report or if there's something to test 		[21:25]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #4256 - - tiki 9.0 install dies with PHP Fatal error Uncaught exception 'SmartyException' in smarty_security.php:381 - http://dev.tiki.org/item4256 [21:27]
marclaporteDwokfur: so you have seen years of evolution!
What type of site? 		[21:36]
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Dwokfurmarclaporte: I work as a radiologist (being a radiologist is more-or-less the opposite here in Hungary compared to the US...) and I run my own box [21:52]
marclaporteDo you code too? [21:54]
Dwokfurmarclaporte: there are two blogs on it in incative state. Most important is that there are two information pages in English and Hungarian for referring physicians and patients [21:54]
marclaporteI met a surgeon once in Montreal who was also a PHP coder :-) [21:54]
Dwokfurmarclaporte: I have a basic knowledge of Assembly, I mainly code in C [21:54]
marclaportehehe [21:55]
Dwokfurmarclaporte: I also know C++, but I'm not a true OOP guy. I had some contributions in PHP for other projects
marclaporte: we used a php scheduling system, it was running on my site and I modified the code for our needs
marclaporte: but there were some new law requirements for which I should have rewritten the code nearly completely
marclaporte: I didn't have enough time for that - I'm primarily not a coder
marclaporte: I have an identical twinbrother, who is a developer - finished the Budapest Techical Universtiy
marclaporte: some blog entries of him can be found at: https://atoth.sote.hu/tikiwiki
marclaporte: originally I chose tikiwiki because of the personal file handling features - especially for quota. I knew I'll only use only a small part of the feature set. I also didn't put too much effort into the design. 		[21:55]
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Dwokfurmarclaporte: there were some times tikwiki meant real help for me - once I was working at a large company as a web developer in a part-time job. I think it's one of the largest if not the largest. There was a very strict firewall. I used tikiwiki to transfer some important files a couple of times. It was priceless.
marclaporte: I'm definitely not a Con Kolivas. However I do some coding in C in proprietary software environments, including some pseudo-OOP fetures 		[22:01]
marclaporteDwokfur: have you ever met someone from the Tiki community? [22:04]
Dwokfurmarclaporte: I'm socially really bad. Spend ~16 hours a day at my workplace. Once I remember there was an event in Budapest, but I couldn't make it.
marclaporte: I don't know if there are fests in Hungary - it would be interesting 		[22:07]
marclaporteIt's funny that you have a Tiki 8.x with a really old theme :-) [22:10]
Dwokfurmarclaporte: traditional feature... :-)
marclaporte: tikinewt with some color manipulations 		[22:11]
marclaportedid you try the other themes?
(there are some nicer ones)
Lorinc is also in .hu http://atdot.hu/
His email is here: http://www.wikimatrix.org/consultants/-/-/hungary
A TikiFest is minimum 2 people
:-) 		[22:15]
Dwokfur: Did you use the color picker from http://tv.tiki.org/tiki-kaltura_video.php?mediaId=1_d4y23n2f [22:27]
Dwokfurmarclaporte: I'm too old school to change themes. I tried some, but got back to the original all the time [22:29]
marclaportehahahahahah [22:29]
Dwokfurmarclaporte: otherwise I may also have a girlfriend... :-O [22:30]
marclaporteShe'll make your site look good :-) [22:31]
Dwokfurmarclaporte: I know a cardiologist, she has a boyfriend in the IT. Once I met him, and it turned out, that he also runs gentoo and uses tiki. I think he is called LÅ‘rinc, and that he mentioned, that he did some translations for Tiki... [22:41]
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marclaportehehe, so you did have a TikiFest!
speaking of you know who... :-)
Lorinc is a long time community member 		[22:42]
lorincyo
polom :)
I know Dwokfur via my girlfriend personally, we even met some time ago 		[22:45]
marclaportelorinc: a few years since your last commit: https://www.ohloh.net/p/tikiwiki/contributors/169651210280
Hu translation is surely out of date :-) :-) 		[22:47]
lorincdefinitely, gezza has been working on it, i guess [22:48]
marclaportegood point
so 3 potential people for a TikiFest! 		[22:48]
lorincintroduced him to tikiwiki ;) [22:49]
marclaporte:-) [22:49]
lorincmarclaporte, just opened a new site, wanna check it out? latest tiki9 code: http://angelikamuhly.com/ (developed on tiki8, with a nice seamless upgrade this afternoon) [22:52]
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Dwokfurlorinc: hi there! greeting to Anikó!
lorinc: nice page, who does the design? 		[22:56]
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Dwokfurmarclaporte: so I identified Lorinc
marclaporte: I hope we'll have another tikifest... :-) 		[23:02]
CIA-91tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42140 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/ParserNegotiator.php: [NEW] Parser negotiator will be the new class all plugins are going to be called from, parserlib will start to slip down
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42141 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/HeaderManager.php: [NEW] Headers get their own manager within the jison parser
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42142 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php:
tikiwiki: [ENH] Cleanup of parsing, and trying to kill most static variables, now rely on header manager and parser negotiator
tikiwiki: [NEW] New way of referencing by use of the attribute 'Parser' which is the original parser everything was called from 		[23:04]
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CIA-91tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42143 10/trunk/lib/core/Services/JisonParser/WikiPlugin.php: [FIX] Use new static method for getting plugin bodies
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42144 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/HtmlBase.php: [ENH] css attributes need filtered just like attributes
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42145 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/maketoc.php: [FIX] Use header manager
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42146 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/oohtml.php: [FIX] misspelled construct 		[23:08]
lorinchey Dwokfur! [23:10]
Dwokfurlorinc: hey Lorinc! [23:13]
lorincDwokfur the graphic design is by ekome.hu , the photos and content are managed by the owner, i just implemented the page with tiki: css design and tiki page codes for the special layout [23:13]
Dwokfurlorinc: Hardened Gentoo meeting is happening now at hardened-gentoo
lorinc: don't know if I ever need a designer for a tiki site, mine has a really outdated style as it was pointed out by marclaporte... :-) 		[23:14]
lorinchehe, good old habits [23:16]
CIA-91tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42147 10/trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [FIX] check for zend style plugin existence [23:17]
lorinci was considering to offer a migration to tikiwiki on www.kardio.hu too, but i guess its complicated ;) [23:18]
Dwokfurlorinc: the IT guys are totally linux-aware at GOKI. They run some Debian-based distribution firewall. There are rigorous requirements. They are propagating the use of open/libreoffice, too. I think they have their own connections. The site has been done by http://whynot.hu/
lorinc: one should rather migrate all dokinet (www.mkardio.hu, www.socrad.hu) sites away from the current ASP-NET based system. Guys behind dokinet supplies many medical societies. I also get sick of radiologia.hu's web motor. It cannot even handle logged in user action properly. But the connections are also tight here, too. 		[23:20]
lorincDwokfur: let them decide, its their system and they know for sure why they choose those partners, i dont know what kind of visitor traffic these sites handle, but i guess one proper system could serve them all at fractions of the maintenance cost
just consider how many people are involved in the maintenance of each of those separate servers
Dwokfur: consider also the knowledge-management/content workflows involved, and how many people could or would want to contribute 		[23:24]
Dwokfurlorinc: radiologia.hu is for radiologists, dokinet sites houses the Hungarian Society of Cardiologists and Radiologists' sites
lorinc: it means all cardiologists and radiologists are visiting those two sites
lorinc: dokinet should definitely have a single engine under it - though it is proprietary 		[23:26]
lorincjust type in dokinet.hu it gives some weird error atm.
www. works
Dwokfur: i guess each of these sites could be migrated to a tikiwiki and hosted on one properly configured server
its all a question of editor/user training, the onetime migration could be scripted for each of the engines 		[23:30]
Dwokfurlorinc: there are tight and deep industrial connections behind in the background - it's highly unlikely that the engines would change [23:33]
lorincDwokfur: ;) [23:34]
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