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[00:12] TomJarvis When I use the IMG plugin, with thumb="y" button="y" rel="box", the ColorBox comes up saying it is image 1/2, but the second image is always the same as the first.
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[03:45] luciash lorinc: very nice site for angelika
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[04:48] TomJarvis I fixed my problem, removing the thumb="y"  from {img fileId="1" button="y" width="170px" desc=namedesc rel="box"} made it so there the "1/2" and the arrows are not displayed.
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[11:46] g0th hi
[11:46] g0th I plan to install and update tiki wiki using subversion
[11:46] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Trackers, linking trackers and use part of the data only. (how to get rid of empty cell ?)  - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44272
[11:48] g0th since apache needs to be able to access it, I assume it is necessary to set the user group permissions appropriately (here: apache/w3biomech), how do I do that automatically?
[11:48] g0th I just do an svn checkout and then chown -R apache.w3biomech or something like that?
[11:48] g0th isn't there a more elegant way?
[11:49] lorinc g0th: setup.sh ;)
[11:51] g0th that's not with subversion?
[11:51] g0th hmm, you recommend to download it and run setup.sh?
[11:51] g0th I read somewhere that updating/upgrading is much easier with subversion, because it also automatically deletes old files
[11:56] lorinc g0th: after you checked out the tw sourcefiles via svn, there is a setup.sh file
[11:56] lorinc take alook, then chmod +x , then run it
[11:56] lorinc it takes care of assigning permissions and creating necessary directories
[11:57] lorinc it even helps setting up multi-tikis: one tikiwiki install can serve multiple webhosts, each with a separate db
[12:06] g0th I just need one
[12:06] g0th where do I put the tiki wiki sources?
[12:07] g0th Since update is done but a simple svn up command I assume that the wiki sources should be at /var/www/ (or whatever web dir I use)
[12:08] g0th hmm or not
[12:08] g0th I guess the /var/www can access the corresponding directory where i downloaded it somehow, what is the usual thing to do?
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[12:19] g0th on the web page it says that tiki 9 is the current stable version with LTS, is that correct? at other places it says that tiki 9 is the development version /me is confused
[12:21] g0th anyone, where do I put the initial tiki files? in /var/www/9.x?
[12:22] g0th or in /usr/local/srC/tiki/9.x? what is the usual way?
[12:44] xavi g0th: usual way is /var/www
[12:44] xavi so that they are shown in your base domain, without your prefixes
[12:44] xavi (provided that you don't customize the setup in your apache for custom settings, etc)
[12:45] xavi and you are right with the confusion (wiki way of doing things here in Tiki :-) you are welcome to fix those issues) :-)
[12:46] xavi afaik, Tiki9 will (might) be considered LTS when 9.1 is released or so...
[12:46] xavi but I'm not 100% sure about this...
[12:46] xavi however, you can get for sure that 9.x branch will be maintained the longest possible as LTS
[12:47] xavi regardless of the fact of when it's considered "THE" LTS version of Tiki (currently, Tiki6 is "THE" LTS, afaik)
[12:47] xavi hth
[12:47] xavi btw, g0th, just for curiosity: what does "biomech" stand for in your case? Biomechanics?
[12:48] * xavi is a biologist working in a research institute
[12:58] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42148 10/branches/9.x/lang/es/language.php: just a few changes (edited and commited with phpstorm on gnu/linux behind a proxy: kind of test... :-)
[13:10] g0th xavi: yes
[13:10] g0th so I will use the 9.x branch?
[13:10] g0th it has some nice calendar support iirc
[13:13] g0th is mysql 5.0.95-log ok?
[13:25] g0th ouff, the utf8 seems to be a big issue
[13:25] g0th so many places where the encoding comes up
[13:57] Jyhem that's mostly html encoding issues, I think. Not so much utf8 anymore
[13:58] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4257 - - No fileId on share file url when context menus are unchecked  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4257
[14:00] g0th in the mysql database I have now most settings are not with utf8, is that an issue?
[14:00] g0th should I try to change all to utf8_unicode or something like that?
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[14:19] xavi back
[14:19] xavi g0th: are you upgrading or installing from scratch?
[14:20] changi xavi: so , how do you feel with phpstorm ?
[14:21] xavi hi changi: it was just a quick test. so far so good (the only think that doesn't make me fill 100% well is that it's not Free/Libre Open Source Software)
[14:21] xavi I'll test more deeply whenever I can invest some time to (try to) debug something...
[14:22] xavi which is not now unluckily
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[14:23] g0th xavi: installing from scratch
[14:23] xavi polom-morning for ricks99
[14:23] g0th in the db I can choose collation:
[14:23] g0th there is a huge list of all kinds of languages/etc
[14:24] xavi @ricks99: whenever you have your coffees :-), I fired a css question yesterday on irc ... if you could share your wisdom on the issue... it would be very welcome :-)
[14:24] xavi g0th: I would suggest that you stick to utf8 everywhere
[14:25] xavi choose ut8_unicode (for instance) as collation
[14:25] xavi and all the other default things in a new install will set everything else for you in utf8
[14:25] xavi bbl
[14:25] xavi @ ricks99: http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-06-27,Wed&sel=46#l42
[14:26] xavi ^the css question
[14:26] xavi bbl
[14:27] ricks99 hi xavi
[14:28] ricks99 looking (and drinking coffee)
[14:29] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42149 10/branches/9.x/ (lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php styles/layout/layout.css): [FIX] icons: Don't even try and use the main img directory to display the error icon, but return a "safe" span instead. (if the directory security has failed then this will probably also fail)
[14:33] xavi back
[14:34] g0th xavi: ok, I changed it to utf8_unicode_ci (there is also utf8_bin, I don't understand all those options and what they do...). My current plan is to checkout the svn repo to tiki9, do chown -R apache.w3biomech tiki9, mv  tiki9 /web/biomech3/...
[14:34] xavi skip the manual chown. "sh setup.sh" will do that for you
[14:34] xavi plus other needed things
[14:35] g0th I don't understand why I need to run setup.sh, because iirc I can already access now, I guess I should "mv tiki9/* .."
[14:35] xavi read the sh file
[14:35] xavi if you wish
[14:35] g0th ok so setup.sh is just for the permissions?
[14:35] g0th ah ofc :)
[14:35] g0th ok
[14:35] g0th thx
[14:35] xavi np
[14:35] g0th is the plan above ok?
[14:36] xavi yes in most cases
[14:36] xavi (it depends in your desired setup in apache, domain, etc)
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[14:36] xavi I would say, try all those things in your localhost first
[14:36] xavi then you'll undertand all those things much more easily
[14:37] xavi my 2 cents
[14:48] ricks99 xavi: try using {img src="url2foo.jpg"... imalign="center" align="center"}
[14:48] ricks99 one centers the image (only) the other the entire div
[14:49] xavi wohoo! thnks I'll try
[14:49] xavi (that would be an easy fix to add to the default syntax added in my file gals)
[14:49] * ricks99 keeping track of how much coffee xavi owes rick :)
[14:49] xavi :-D
[14:50] xavi ricks99: you know, you can get paid all that coffee this August, if for some reason you (and family?) decide to attend the TikiFestBarcelona3 ;-)
[14:50] xavi http://tiki.org/TikiFestBarcelona3
[14:50] ricks99 would *love* too...
[14:51] ricks99 however, we are going on vacation.. to wisconsin
[14:51] ricks99 not *quite* the same as spain. :)
[14:51] xavi he he, I know (for the good and for the bad) :-)
[14:51] xavi we have plenty of everything here
[14:52] ricks99 not sure that im going to be able to survive 10 days with no wifi
[14:52] xavi :-)
[14:52] xavi you can ask marclaporte1 for his recipe to cope with these situations...
[14:53] ricks99 to be honest, think it will be quite nice change of pace
[14:53] ricks99 do some hiking, biking, fishing, and non Tiki stuff :)
[14:54] xavi :-)
[14:54] xavi yes, in that case, don't use marclaporte1's recipe :-)
[15:00] g0th hmm but setup.sh doesn't ask for the user, just for the group
[15:00] xavi g0th: run as root (or with sudo) and it will
[15:01] g0th I don't think I can, I'll try
[15:01] g0th but user should be able to change the user to apache
[15:02] g0th hmm, ok I will ask my admin to give me more rights :)
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[15:13] xavi g0th: or run chown by hand if you can as you initially planned
[15:18] Bsfez polom guys
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[15:32] chibaguy polom
[15:36] xavi hi Bsfez and chibaguy
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[15:37] jonnyb hot poloms
[15:37] Bsfez hot... ? weather ?
[15:38] chibaguy hi xavi and everybody :-)
[15:38] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42150 10/branches/9.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[15:38] CIA-75 tikiwiki: [FIX] users: Set admin user created and registeredDate fields to install time
[15:38] CIA-75 tikiwiki: for new installs, and retrospectively set null values to the earliest schema
[15:38] CIA-75 tikiwiki: installed on the system (so will be incorrect for Tikis installed before 2008)
[15:38] jonnyb yup, summer's finally here! :)
[15:38] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42151 10/branches/9.x/lang/es/language.php: a few more strings and fixing errors
[15:38] ricks99 very hot in NC today, too... nearing 100F
[15:40] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42152 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: [FIX] users: Add Registered date to users admin list to make spammer removal simpler, and improve layout a little (Thanks Oliver)
[15:41] xavi thks jonnyb
[15:41] Bsfez nearly 86f here and i feel it is hot. ! :D
[15:42] jonnyb we've gone all metric here so i have no idea! :)
[15:42] jonnyb hi xavi
[15:43] jonnyb did you see marclaporte1 persuaded me to come to Barcelona3? ;)
[15:47] xavi did him??? :-)
[15:47] xavi I had no idea...
[15:47] xavi did he succeed?
[15:47] xavi :-)
[15:52] jonnyb yup - even though i'm going to have to fly direct from there to the arctic... just sounded too much fun to miss! :)
[15:52] jonnyb packing could be tricky...
[15:56] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42153 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: [MOD] users: Move the assign to group icon into the actions column to make it more obvious that it is an "action" icon, and move the remove icon to after the group name (will roll back if everyone hates it)
[15:56] jonnyb hey xavi and all, see what you think about this ^^ commit, i think it's much better, but let me know if you think not
[15:57] jonnyb i had a client the other day ask how he was supposed to know the assign group icon was an action? i had to agree...
[16:00] Jyhem Polom
[16:00] Jyhem Yeah !!!! jonnyb will be in Barcelona :-) \o/
[16:00] * Jyhem happy
[16:01] jonnyb well, still working out logistics, it's going to be tricky and i have agreed to be in Trømso on the 26th August
[16:02] jonnyb but hopefully i should make it
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[16:10] jonnyb bbl
[16:14] xavi back
[16:14] xavi nice that you jyhem and jonnyb can make it to Barcelona :-)
[16:17] chibaguy Is it a TikiFest in Barcelona?
[16:18] xavi yes http://tiki.org/TikiFestBarcelona3
[16:18] xavi feel free to join (while we still have room in the flat)
[16:19] xavi last time in that flat we got accomodated there with extra double bed inflatable matresses in spare rooms and "patio"...
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[16:41] chibaguy Heh, I wish I could, but no time or money :-)
[16:42] xavi we'll meet in person one day, chibaguy
[16:42] xavi ok, I must leave. cheers
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[16:58] panamaus OK, maybe one of you nice folks will be able to tell me what I'm doing wrong here
[16:58] panamaus I'm trying to use the TrackerList plugin as described on the User Groups page (http://doc.tiki.org/User+Groups)
[16:59] panamaus I'm running 8.4
[16:59] panamaus If the user is a member of only one group (Admins, for instance), it works
[16:59] panamaus If the user is a member of more than one group, I get nothing
[17:00] panamaus I have tried every different kind of syntax I can derive from available instructions, but just can't get it to work
[17:01] panamaus I can't find anything in bug reports or irc logs about this feature being broken
[17:01] jonnyb hi panamaus - have you tried the other "value" param - filtervalue i think it is
[17:01] jonnyb maybe the exact bit is tripping it up
[17:01] panamaus I've tried both
[17:01] panamaus with quotes and without, with commas for the array and without
[17:02] jonnyb could be a bug
[17:02] panamaus I've tried specifying every group that a user would be a member of too, but there's no examples provided for how that syntax would look
[17:03] jonnyb i found yesterday that this field wasn't searchable using the {list} plugin, so could be related (fixed in 9.x)
[17:05] panamaus I guess I could download 9.0 and put it on my dev instance to see if that fixes it
[17:09] Jyhem panamaus: maybe it looks for the default group of the user ?
[17:09] jonnyb the fix was in the {list} plugin which is the new (better) way of doing tracker lists, i'm not really working on trackerlist anymore unless provoked! :)
[17:10] panamaus OK, good to know
[17:15] panamaus Wow, the {list} plugin looks very complicated
[17:39] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42154 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/Search/ (Expr/Parser.php Index/Lucene.php): [FIX] search: 2nd attempt at changing the default Lucene boolean operator - simply setting the global operator meant all the terms had to be present in all the fields (title, content etc)
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[17:57] ricks99 q: regarding pretty trackers....
[17:57] ricks99 i have a tracker that can have comments. how can i 1. display the comments in a pretty tracker and 2. allow visitors (with permission) to post new comments to the tracker?
[17:57] ricks99 all from the pretty tracker page
[18:01] jonnyb hi ricks99 - think this has come up before but i don't think there's any way of doing it now
[18:01] ricks99 :(
[18:02] jonnyb you can probably show them using the {list} plugin :)
[18:02] jonnyb but doubt you could allow adding new ones
[18:02] ricks99 *sigh*
[18:03] ricks99 gonna have to use discus instead of tiki for comments :(
[18:03] ricks99 crap
[18:24] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42155 10/trunk/ (12 files in 11 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 42130 to 42154
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[18:35]  Topic for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - Software made the Wiki Way - Tiki 9.0 is out! Question? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log)
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[19:35] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42156 10/branches/9.x/templates/list_file_gallery.tpl: [FIX] filegals: Always show the checked file actions in list mode
[20:26] changi polom
[20:27] jonnyb hi changi
[20:28] changi easy question : is it possible to disable cache for wiki page that are used in trackerlist ?
[20:37] ricks99 changi: y, you can override wiki cache on a page-by-page basis
[20:40] changi i'm creating an example on demo.tiki.org because what i am doing is a little tricky :)
[20:44] panamaus jonnyb: It occurs to me that if someone wanted to promote the adoption and use of a newer, better plugin ({list} in this case) over an older, broken one ({trackerlist} again in this case), updating the docs pages (for instance, http://doc.tiki.org/User+Groups) with examples of use would be a really cool thing for somebody to do
[20:45] panamaus but I know that coders don't have time to write documetation. ;)
[20:45] jonnyb how did you guess ;)
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[20:46] jonnyb trackerlist and trackerfilter aren't particularly broken - obviously that field type seems to have an issue sadly
[20:47] jonnyb interesting you said earlier that {list} seems very complicated - personally i thing the tracker plugins are pretty hairy, too many options
[20:48] jonnyb mainly the docs need improving lots
[20:48] panamaus odd though that the issue could be fixed in 9.x for {list} but still leave User Groups not working in the other plugins
[20:49] panamaus or, at least to me, but I'm not a coder
[20:49] jonnyb really it was a fix for how unified search deals with UserGroups (which is what {list} uses)
[20:51] panamaus I thought it interesting too that there have been several enhanced, feature-rich plugins improving the ability to search and display finding results, but Tiki's built-in search feature and its many deficiencies are basically the same
[20:53] panamaus I am still new to Tiki though so my perspective is probably lacking in historical context
[20:57] changi ricks99: what do you mean by page-by-page ?
[20:58] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42157 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] filegals: Add fileId to values returned from get_file_by_name
[21:00] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42158 10/trunk/lib/core/Services/File/Controller.php: [ENH] filegals: New action for File service to find a file by name
[21:02] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42159 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] jcapture: Add file gallery dependency
[21:03] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42160 10/trunk/lib/jcapture_tiki/tiki-jcapture.js: [ENH] jcapture: Implement new toolbar button and code to insert results in textarea, plus various other minor improvements (thanks marclaporte)
[21:04] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42161 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] jcapture: Implement new toolbar button and code to insert results in textarea, plus various other minor improvements (thanks marclaporte)
[21:14] jonnyb more tomorrow, byee
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[21:48] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42162 10/branches/9.x/templates/list_file_gallery_content.tpl: [FIX] Missing index when context menu are disabled - [http://dev.tiki.org/item4257]
[22:17] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42163 10/branches/9.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.html_select_date.php: [REVERT/36671] It introduce a regression, in tracker you can't have a start year before 1970 with date_time field [http://dev.tiki.org/item4253]
[23:04] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4258 - - Plugin Alias missing Save button - cannot create or edit new Plugin Aliases after upgrade  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4258
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