#tikiwiki 2012-06-29,Fri

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Mbecker	joined #tikiwiki Hi Just had a question, not sure if anyone would be able to help I have a tiki page with hundreds of attachments on it that I want to split up into seperate pages. When I copy and paste the wiki mark up to these new pages it says it cant find the attachments. Is there any way to transfer the attachments to another page without re-uploading them all?	[06:18]
	If anyone would be able to point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. matthew.becker17@gmail.com	[06:28]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42164 10/branches/9.x/templates/mail/user_watch_calendar.tpl: [FIX]Usability: add an empty line before and after the body of the event for better readability	[08:57]
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fidel	hi - is there some kind of diff available which lists all changes from tiki9(beta2) to tiki9(final)?	[11:04]
changi	fidel: no, but we can provide one	[11:07]
fidel	hi changi would be interesting in general. we are heavily using/testing 9b2 - and are somehow curious if some of those points we noticed as bugs and might not have report them already are mentioned or not so if possible without big effort - i would really appreciate having a changelog ;)	[11:09]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r42165 10/branches/9.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [ROLLBACK r42109] Broke maketoc	[11:51]
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changi	fidel: a changelog or a diff patch ?	[12:02]
fidel	changi: sorry - i ment changelog	[12:03]
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	polom y'all q: in tiki 9, i have a tracker with a multiselect field. how can i, using a pretty tracker, test to see if a specific option was selected? thought i could use smarty stripos function in the wiki template page, but Tiki throwing an error. {if stripos('OptionA', ($f_1)) == true} ..... {/if}	[13:30]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42166 10/branches/9.x/lang/es/language.php: a few more (bbb)	[14:18]
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changi	fidel: https://dev.tiki.org/dl30	[14:25]
fidel	ui thank you very much changi: very helpful - thumps up	[14:26]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Trackers, linking trackers and use part of the data only. (how to get rid of empty cell ?) - https://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44272 New Forum Posts: Intégration de WebSVN avec Tiki - https://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=7&comments_parentId=44265 New Forum Posts: Impossibilité de créer des galeries de fichiers ou de modifier l'existante - https://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=44261	[14:53]
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ricks99	anyone using pretty tracker wiki templates in tiki9? how do i test/evaluate for the value of mutliselect field in my wiki page tpl? and, how to use a multiselect field in a trackerlist? 1/m throws a tiki errror	[15:01]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Trackers, linking trackers and use part of the data only. (how to get rid of empty cell ?) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44272 New Forum Posts: Intégration de WebSVN avec Tiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=7&comments_parentId=44265 New Forum Posts: Impossibilité de créer des galeries de fichiers ou de modifier l'existante - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=44261	[15:03]
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Jyhem	polom ricks99: what error do you get? I'm no expert, but your smarty syntax seems strange. I would have attempted {if stripos('OptionA', $f_1 ) == true} ..... {/if} or {if stripos('OptionA', "$f_1") == true} ..... {/if}	[15:28]
ricks99	just a generic tiki sytax error. will try your code... ... supposed to allow any smarty function in a wiki tpl, right? ah.. closer.. now getting PHP funtion 'stripos' not allowd by security setting... where/how do i enable?	[15:31]
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ricks99	ahh.. got it still getting "PHP function stripos not allowed by security setting" when I add ^^^^ code to my wiki tpl :(	[15:38]
g0th	hi how do you usually store custom data? I put the tiki on the main web directory now lets say I use my own logo, where would I store it? Do you guys create some "custom" or "data" directory ?	[15:44]
ricks99	g0th: u can, and then FTP it. Or you can upload to the Tiki file gallery	[15:45]
g0th	what's the standard procedure in general	[15:46]
ricks99	either way really	[15:46]
g0th	hmm I guess normally there are not that many files	[15:46]
ricks99	if you don't have ftp access, then you're forced to use file gallery	[15:46]
g0th	only the logo icon essentially ^^ for ftp it should be accessable for apache/etc so the rights have to be set correctly etc I think I'll just make a custom directory at "/"	[15:46]
ricks99	correct	[15:47]
g0th	of the web ok thx	[15:47]
Jyhem	g0th: do you use a Tiki theme or a custom one ? If you have ftp/scp access, the natural place would be styles/yourtheme/ (in my opinion)	[15:49]
ricks99	+1	[15:49]
Jyhem	ricks99: hmm and is stristr() allowed by security settings?	[15:52]
ricks99	how would i know? or is there a better way to check multiselect values? guess i could do it in a TPL, but would rather do it on a wiki page	[15:52]
Jyhem	ricks99: sorry, stristr() is a php functio, not smarty :(	[15:54]
ricks99	d'oh ricks99 knew that!	[15:55]
Jyhem	Jyhem is confused and sleep deprived :( first of all, what is displayed if you display $f_1 ? A value or "Array" ?	[15:55]
ricks99	all the selected values in straight text ValueA ValueB ValueX	[15:56]
Jyhem	Jyhem wonders if $f_1 contains 1 value or the array of the multiple selections	[15:57]
ricks99	it contains a single value of all the selections, plain text hence my use of stripos	[15:57]
Jyhem	Looks encouraging, but that's beyond my smarty skills :(	[15:57]
ricks99	guess i could use mutiple checkboxes instead of a single multiselect tracker field :( but seems like a huge waste but maybe easier	[15:58]
Jyhem	http://www.smarty.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=66879 Jyhem got to go, sorry	[16:03]
ricks99	thanx. same security erorr tho. :( think i'm gonna have to use separate checkboxes. at least i know that will work	[16:07]
g0th	hmm now I get "The requested URL /HomePage was not found on this server." when I try to access the wiki	[16:12]
ricks99	Are you using SEFURL? Did you update your htaccess?	[16:13]
g0th	I made a ln -s _htaccess .htaccess or other way first way :)	[16:14]
ricks99	if you can access the page as tiki-index.php?page=HomePag but not as /HomePage, then it is a problem with your htaccess	[16:14]
g0th	hmm is ln -s _htaccess .htaccess in the root dir not enough?	[16:15]
ricks99	should b	[16:16]
g0th	seems not :( it works again after turning the SEFURL off thx, I didn't realize about SEFURL	[16:18]
ricks99	you're welcome. very common issue. b sure to see docs for deatils	[16:19]
g0th	can I copy modules? so I don't have to add all information again? "duplicate"	[16:31]
ricks99	y. edit the module and change the name, then save original will remain	[16:32]
g0th	it is all a bit confusing for me, I need to get used to this first	[16:34]
ricks99	some good docs <shameless plug> at http://tikiforsmarties.com	[16:35]
g0th	for menu module there is "menu", "structure", "module title" and then there are categories, sections	[16:35]
ricks99	y	[16:35]
g0th	what do I put in menu/structure/module title ? for me a menu module should "essentially" just need one information, the "name"	[16:36]
ricks99	don't understand your question	[16:37]
g0th	I will rtfm	[16:37]
ricks99	for modules, you can also control who can see the module. tiki has very fine-grained permissions you can also have modules dynamically show/hide depending on, what tiki section (e.g., wiki, article, blog) is being shown...	[16:38]
g0th	yeah I saw that	[16:38]
ricks99	or what category is being shown... etc.	[16:38]
g0th	that I don't understand but I'll read about it I guess it is something like "tags"?	[16:39]
ricks99	very flexible. but somewhat more complex than others tags = folksonomy tagging. similar, but different than categories	[16:39]
g0th	the basic structure is 3 types right? admin, user, guest admin, registered, sthg else I forgot	[16:39]
ricks99	in tiki lingo, "structure" means wiki structure (e.g., browse sequence) are you asking about user groups?	[16:40]
g0th	that was not my initial question, my last question was refering to your remark about fine-grained permissions, it was about confirming that three types are used	[16:41]
ricks99	even more. you can have permissions for a group/global, for a category, and for a specific object	[16:41]
g0th	but I can go without category if I want? it is something like a tag I can give stuff and then search for it, apply permissions to it etc	[16:41]
ricks99	so if you have 3 groupos 10 categories and using blog, wiki, files, you can have 90 different perms	[16:42]
g0th	? got it (I hope)	[16:42]
ricks99	lots of good docs explaining perms. very powerful/very complex	[16:43]
radek82	where in the database is the force https login in tiki? :P i locked myself out	[16:43]
g0th	essentially our setup is: admin, several users, some guests, probably no anonymous I'm not sure about the authentication, probably ldap+tiki when I use ldap, it creates a tiki user (or at least it can be set that way)	[16:43]
ricks99	radek82: most prefs in tiki_preferences	[16:44]
g0th	is it possible to add meta information to that user and create a nice viewable user database	[16:44]
radek82	ricks99, thanks :P	[16:44]
g0th	maybe it is easier to do that manually	[16:44]
ricks99	g0th: can use a registration tracker to collect additional user info at registration time, then store in tracker/display	[16:45]
g0th	nice I have so many questions, I should first of all read some manual like the link you posted before	[16:45]
ricks99	:)	[16:46]
g0th	how do I save my wiki? is it enough to save the database?	[16:46]
ricks99	do you mean backup?	[16:46]
g0th	I know it says to save additional files but I haven't uploaded any so far yes the whole tiki is quite big so it would be nice to avoid having to save all that that's also why it would be nice if I could store all additional stuff (i.e. non svn stuff) somewhere else	[16:46]
ricks99	depends if you're storing in db or file. You might find http://twessentials.tikiforsmarties.com/What+to+Backup very helpful <another shameless plug>	[16:48]
g0th	any other books? tiki essentials and tiki for smarties you mentioned on the site	[16:50]
ricks99	http://tikiforsmarties.com/Books	[16:50]
g0th	which lists exactly the two I just mentioned ^^	[16:51]
radek82	ricks99, i changed https_login to Disabled, but its still locked out ive got a broken SSL cert and can't get into tiki	[16:51]
ricks99	g0th: working on new series: http://series.tikiforsmarties.com	[16:52]
radek82	feature_switch_ssl_mode and feature_show_stay_in_ssl_mode are set to n	[16:52]
ricks99	radek82: clear all caches (tiki and browser) may need to manually empty the TMP and CACHE folders	[16:52]
radek82	k, trying now just delete everything in TMP and CACHE? im not gonna break anything else?	[16:53]
ricks99	look in ../temp/ theres a bunch foiles to clear out too and ../templates_c/	[16:54]
radek82	checking now cleaning temp/caceh	[16:55]
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radek82	can i erase all the files in those dirs? or should i leave wikiplugin and index	[17:07]
jonnyb	hi all	[17:07]
radek82	baah, cleared all caches, still locked out :*(	[17:18]
	hrrm now it gives me a different error errorsError You have to enable cookies to be able to login to this site never seen this one before	[17:27]
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	yes! finally got it thanks ricks99	[17:45]
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ricks99	great	[18:13]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Display a list of links in a wiki page changing according to user's group - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44273	[18:24]
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ricks99	using trackerlist plugin... i thought there was a way to use a wiki/tpl to customize the form iteslf (not the results) but i can't find anything. did i imagine this?	[18:33]
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jonnyb	hi ricks99 - still there? yes, you can use a wiki page as a tpl for the form (i thought)	[19:24]
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ricks99	hi jonnyb.... how?	[20:00]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42167 10/branches/9.x/lib/ (setup/cookies.php smarty_tiki/block.tabset.php): [FIX] cookies: Use "." operator to join php strings (not "+"), and correct order of params for js setCookie fn in tabset	[20:00]
jonnyb	hi ricks99 - sorry, i thought you meant the tracker plugin trackerlist doesn't have a form does it?	[20:01]
ricks99	sorry, mean trackerFILTER sigh the 100F temperature must be getting to me	[20:01]
jonnyb	ah right - hmmm, no, that's a hard coded thing why not try custom_search? it's very pretty! :)	[20:01]
ricks99	hm... nice. is that for trackers specifically? is that the search module? ah found it can you pass tracker id and field info?	[20:02]
jonnyb	it's a unified search thing, uses the {list} plugin eventually yes - been meaning to add some more docs and examples	[20:07]
ricks99	but can be used as a replacement for trackerfilter searches? i can add filters based on tracker fields?	[20:08]
jonnyb	you specify the tracker with: {filter field="tracker_id" content="1"}	[20:08]
ricks99	awesome. might be what i need!	[20:09]
jonnyb	coolio - i'll try and assist as much as i can, then you might be able to make the documentation more useful (or even another book? :P )	[20:10]
ricks99	+100. my next 'books' will be a short series of guides, on a specific tiki feature. "search" would be perfect	[20:10]
jonnyb	i'd recommend playing with the {list} plugin for a while to get used to it	[20:11]
ricks99	yup. doing that now. thanks for the pointeer	[20:11]
jonnyb	that otaku one would be in the "advanced" section ;)	[20:11]
ricks99	1 more (last?) tracker issue... using a Date/Time field type. have the Start Year=1900, but Tiki starts at 1970 is this a hardcoded limit?	[20:15]
jonnyb	is saw a commit re that and wondered the same	[20:15]
ricks99	ah.. in trunk?	[20:15]
jonnyb	i thought it uses unix timestamps (which do start in 1970)	[20:15]
ricks99	so tiki can't use dates prior to 1970? ricks99 thought unix timestamps could b negative?	[20:19]
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ricks99	trying a simple custom search: {CUSTOMSEARCH{wiki="myTPL"... {LIST()}{filter field="tracker_id" content="1" to search the items in my Tracker #1 myTPL looks like: First name: {input _filter="content" _field="tracker_field_2" type="text"} {intput type=submit} basically, i want to search on the first name of the tracker (field #2) if I execute the search with the form blank, Tiki properly shows me a list of all trackers, as i expect but, if I enter "J" for the first name, i get no results. However, there is a tracker with the first name "JOE" that i expected	[20:55]
jonnyb	try J* ? it might need more chars than that - like jo*	[20:58]
ricks99	hmm	[20:59]
jonnyb	lucene is word based	[20:59]
ricks99	tried "Jane" still no results there is a tracker with first name "JANE" what am i doing wrong? doesnt {filter field="tracker_id" conent="1"} define the "scope" of the customsearch to all of tracker #1?	[20:59]
jonnyb	in tracker admin do you have it set to use "permNames" or field id's?	[21:00]
ricks99	checking	[21:00]
jonnyb	perm names are good, you'll need something like {input _filter="content" _field="tracker_field_firstName" type="text"}	[21:00]
ricks99	i have a permname for the field but i just realized, do i have to enable seach for the field?	[21:01]
jonnyb	no, the tracker field search thing is for the old "filter" on tracker_list	[21:02]
ricks99	thas what i thought	[21:02]
jonnyb	try the search in tiki-searchindex.php just to check	[21:02]
ricks99	i have mysql search disabled. but the tracker filter search works	[21:03]
jonnyb	that uses direct mysql queries rather than the "fulltext" type of search	[21:03]
ricks99	tiki-searchindex does not find it (but that's because i have search disabled for that field)	[21:03]
jonnyb	shouldn't make a difference afaik you might need to rebuild the uni-search index if you only just switched it on on admin/search is it a big tiki (yet)?	[21:04]
ricks99	very small only 3 items in my tracker	[21:05]
jonnyb	should be quick then bless :)	[21:05]
ricks99	rebuit. but still no results. i have a JANE DOE tracker searching with custom search ^^^ shows no results	[21:06]
jonnyb	still nothing in tiki-searchindex.php ?	[21:06]
ricks99	tiki-searchindex finds it	[21:07]
jonnyb	custom search can be quite picky ok, have you changed the _field name reference to use the permanent name of the field?	[21:07]
ricks99	on my tpl? so it should be: ... _field="firstName" ... instead of _field="tracker_field_2"	[21:08]
jonnyb	no, tracker_field_firstName (assuming firstName is the perm name of that field - you can check it on the field edit dialog)	[21:09]
ricks99	got it looks like a min of 3 characters required? jan finds nothing, but jan* finds JANE DOE	[21:10]
jonnyb	i think that's a Lucene thing jan~ would also find Jannet and Janey etc	[21:11]
ricks99	hm... ricks99 really likes how "j" will find jane in trackerfilter some people have very short names Al, Joe, Cal might be back to using HTML for my tackerfilter anyway :( thanks for your help	[21:11]
jonnyb	no probs i'd say it's worth pursuing - it's so much quicker and more flexible i'd guess the "search by initial" thing could be fixable	[21:14]
ricks99	y. i definately see big advantages.	[21:16]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42168 10/branches/9.x/templates/modules/mod-quickadmin.tpl: [ENH] quickadmin: Add a quick way of opening the Smarty "debug" window (thanks marclaporte)	[21:18]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42169 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-view_articles.tpl: [FIX]Icons for watching articles needed to be hidden when actions=n (in newsletters sent by email, etc through plugin articles in wiki page templates)	[22:05]
xavi	joined #tikiwiki polom ricks99 or any css master? :-)	[22:10]
jonnyb	hi xavi	[22:10]
xavi	hi jonnyb	[22:10]
jonnyb	oops ;)	[22:10]
xavi	I'm in process of sending the monthly newsletter... in intercanvis.net (barter networks, etc) but this time with Tiki9 :-) and I can't seem to get module upcoming events to get 100% width here: http://intercanvis.net/tiki-index.php?page_ref_id=228&no_bl=y#Propers_esdeveniments the content there comes from module upcoming events: {MODULE(module="upcoming_events", decorations="n", flip="n", nonums="n", showaction="n", notitle="y", nobox="y", max="20", width="100%")}{MODULE} but no way, since upgrade to tiki9, it just takes 180px it seems I've added this in custom css: #role_main .module { max-width:auto !important; } but it didn't work... I'll try setting it to 600px or something, and not just "auto"...	[22:10]
jonnyb	try with... style="width:100%;" instead maybe?	[22:13]
xavi	ok... 600px worked. uff! I'll try your tip, just in case it works also... oups, it didn't work ok, hardcoding some value works, at least.... I wonder if something should be commited to svn about this display regression...	[22:15]
jonnyb	i'm sure i tackles this some time ago... tackled	[22:17]
xavi	in tiki6, nobox=y made the content of the module to display 100%, afair well, I can't test a god solution to be commited, so I'll keep my hack locally for our tiki9 site for the time being see you!	[22:18]

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