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[08:53] Jenser g'day everyone
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[09:41] fabricius morning Jenser
[09:45] Jenser gotta little problem with migration of my db from 8.3 to 9.0
[09:45] Jenser 8.3 was/is running on a standalone pc, 9.0 is newly installed into a virtual machine
[09:46] Jenser export/import of the db wasnt a problem
[09:46] Jenser logged in as admin after this - everything is in it's place
[09:46] Jenser nice!
[09:46] Jenser but: there aren't any users available in the new installation
[09:46] Jenser none but the admin
[09:46] Jenser tried export/import of the groups
[09:47] Jenser drops error because of wrong csv format
[09:47] Jenser old one doesn't contain passwords or something like this
[09:47] Jenser any ideas?
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[10:52] Jenser database export/import doesn't copy 1:1 as it seems to mee
[10:52] Jenser users_users for instance is not at the new phpmyadmin page after migrating the db
[10:53] Jenser i'm not so into sql/php...
[10:53] Jenser can someone help? how to get it running?
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[11:31] fabricius Jenser: sry, have been afk ... reading now
[11:32] fabricius hmm - did you export/import as csv?
[11:33] fabricius normally, when I copy a database - for ex if I prepare a backup - I use the export function of PHPmyAdmin and export as SQL
[11:34] fabricius issues might arise, if the database is too big, because files were stored in the database ... how do you do this?
[11:34] fabricius different SQL versions on standalone and on VM?
[11:35] fabricius stuff like this
[11:51] Jenser managed it to work
[11:51] Jenser database is quite big (180MB)
[11:52] Jenser manually exported the user_... things as separate sql file
[11:52] Jenser uploaded it to the new tiki
[11:52] Jenser and now the users and permissions are back
[11:52] Jenser seems like i should put the files out of the db?
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[12:04] jjg0th hi
[12:05] jjg0th about the mime type thing, as far as I know the file itself has no mime type information whatsoever, so I guess the mime type must be set by the upload program or from the web server
[12:07] jjg0th if that's the case and cyberduck doesn't set the correct mime type for .docx the conclusion for us is that we no longer use cyberduck and if there is no good alternative probably stop using file gallery alltogether and as a consequence probably don't use the wiki server for file content, because around 90% of our files are .docx files and if one has to download them first, then find the...
[12:07] jjg0th ...download folder and then open them (each time) that's too much
[12:07] jjg0th unacceptable
[12:08] jjg0th I would make this the no. 1 priority of the wiki, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one with this issue
[12:15] fabricius Jenser: yes put the files out of the db - we should have added the doc on this recently
[12:15] fabricius Jenser: I have to go out of the house for a few minutes - can tell ya later how to do
[12:18] fabricius jjg0th: did you write a forum post on this? would make it easier to follow up ... I do not have this issue, as I use odt and do not like ms-formats (not open source ;-) ) but indeed, issues like that should be possible to handle
[12:18] jjg0th I still think that there is a solution for this
[12:18] fabricius jjg0th: I do not use cyberduck, but frequently hear about it - what it is for?
[12:19] jjg0th and I'm waiting for someone who knows about it
[12:19] jjg0th it's a webdav client for windows
[12:19] jjg0th among other things
[12:19] jjg0th I still don't understand who sets the mime type
[12:19] jjg0th it cannot be the uploader
[12:19] jjg0th e.g.
[12:20] fabricius ah webDav I remind - I do not use WebDav, because I can access the files via ssh directly with my local file manager (using linux ;-) )
[12:20] jjg0th what if I upload a file directly using e.g. scp?
[12:20] jjg0th fabricius: dude, I am paid to setup a wiki, the people here all use windows and all use .docx
[12:20] jjg0th fabricius: also to make them access to the wiki server directly by ssh seems a bad idea for me
[12:21] fabricius You could try, what I recently recommended to Rick and solved his similar problem
[12:21] fabricius batch upload
[12:21] fabricius via FTP
[12:21] jjg0th no
[12:21] fabricius ok
[12:21] jjg0th I read about it
[12:22] jjg0th there must be some documentation about this (.docx issues) somewhere
[12:22] jjg0th surely I'm not the first with this problem
[12:22] jjg0th anyway I go to eat, will read the comments later
[12:23] fabricius so we need to get WebDav working for you with docx ... are you registered on tiki.org ... if yes, I could let you know once I stumble on this
[12:23] fabricius have to go now aswell by
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[12:59] Bsfez hi fabricius just sent u an email
[13:02] fabricius rehi
[13:03] fabricius thx Bsfez, will be checking now
[13:04] fabricius Bsfez: no mail thee yet ^^
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[13:06] fabricius ah now ... reading
[13:10] fabricius cool Bsfez - did reply ;-)
[13:21] Bsfez :) waiting to read
[13:23] Bsfez fabricius: your email is coming by foot ! :D
[13:31] jjg0th fabricius: yes, I think under jjermann
[13:32] jjg0th yes, jjermann
[13:34] jjg0th maybe setting the mime types in apache should already be enough but I already told the IT guys to set it and they told me that it was set (but I have no way to confirm it)
[13:46] Bsfez fabricius: yes got it...
[13:46] Bsfez Sound cool !
[13:48] Bsfez about language… This should not be a problem, the text or the field selected are not the problem… more the tools used and the code… Beside trackers are multilingual and if we use pretty tracker can't we use {tr}{/tr} for the text surrounding the form?
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[14:54] jjg0th hi
[14:54] jjg0th is anyone around that is familiar with mime-types?
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[16:23] jjg0th re
[16:24] jjg0th ok I just talked to the guys in #httpd, they told me that mime-type is checked at request time, so it is _not_ stored with the file
[16:24] jjg0th so it should not matter how I upload my files to tiki wiki (webdav or from file gallery), unless tiki wiki has its own mime-type system that overwrites the apache one....
[16:25] jjg0th so it seems to be tiki wiki that does not set the correct mime type, but I didn't find any place to configure that (me is confused)
[16:40] jjg0th I just checked: If I put the file directly on the web server it correctly recognizes the file as a word file, so it is most definitely tiki wiki's fault somehow.... :(
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[16:44] jjg0th and I checked lib/mime....
[16:44] jjg0th it seems indeed that tiki wiki has its own mime type mechanism
[16:44] jjg0th I strongly strongly suggest to add .docx, .xlsx there...
[16:46] jjg0th I would like to report this behaviour somewhere
[16:47] jjg0th where?
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[17:02] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4268 - - .docx files reported as .zip files...  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4268
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[18:18] fabricius jjg0th: report the behaviour: http://tiki.org/forums + http://dev.tiki.org/WishList ... fyi: http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+Submit+a+new+item+on+the+Wishlist
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[21:36] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r42484 10/trunk/tiki-index.php: [REVERT] Clean-up
[22:01] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42485 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/Services/User/Controller.php: [FIX] Ensure ssl if needed
[22:04] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42486 10/branches/9.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[22:04] CIA-75 tikiwiki: [FIX] Usability with changing the header (redirecting), needed set to tiki-register.php only
[22:04] CIA-75 tikiwiki: [FIX] Set user check to be displayed as an error rather than just die.
[22:05] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42487 10/branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_registermemberpayment.php:
[22:05] CIA-75 tikiwiki: [FIX] More connectivity to the parent plugin that this one is leaching off of (memberpayment)
[22:05] CIA-75 tikiwiki: [FIX] Allow for registered members to use plugin as well
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[22:46] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r42488 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): [MOD] Using _ (which also happens to be used for profiles) for namespace and making sure they render a little better
[22:54] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r42489 10/trunk/lib/wiki/renderlib.php: [ENH] Improving page name rendering
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[23:03] fabricius moin moin
[23:05] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: What determines when Toolbar Icons display - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44427
[23:06] Bsfez :)
[23:08] goth hi
[23:08] goth what is the best way to have a "events/news" page?
[23:09] goth articles? blogs? manually editing the page?
[23:13] Bsfez Blog are very simple with simple options
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[23:48] fabricius goth: that depends on what you want to achiev
[23:48] fabricius achieve
[23:49] fabricius if not the calender (events) I would most likely opt for articles
[23:49] fabricius bews anyway - that is articles
[23:49] fabricius news