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hi peoples
anyone around?
Guest81695: I guess no one is around right now.
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g0th: hi
is anyone familiar with webdav access using windows 7 directly?
or using netdrive
not even the demo server seems to be working :(
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xavi: ?
xavi: hi
Bsfez: Hi, i can see that you've edited this page "http://doc.tiki.org/PluginJq#Conditional_display_of_fields" i'm trying to test it using the examples on a tw6 but nada… you experiment it somewhere ?
pretty tracker and condiotion
xavi: it did work for me using 6x (a year ago or so)
try on demo.t.o, I would say
so that if you find a bug, others can reproduce it, or fix the configuration or syntax issue, etc
Bsfez: ok
the sample show : "$jq("#track_22")" pretty tracker field are more define like this : $f_22. what is correct ?
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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42528 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/ (Wiki/Handler.php Wiki.jison Wiki.js Wiki.php): [FIX] NP is reintegrated into the parser, I couldn't get standard regex to work, and the method used in the old parser was just too confusing.
xavi: back
sorry Bsfez, I was away
Bsfez: np :)
g0th: hi
xavi: $f_22 is the syntax for the field value in smarty syntax
g0th: I finally managed to map a webDav share
but it only works as admin, any ideas why?
I gave another test users the same file gallery permissions
but it still doesn't work
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xavi: Bsfez: $jq("#track_22") is the jquery syntax for the html field where the value is shown in the browser
or $("#track_22") probably after tiki6
Bsfez: tried this… nada also on demo
xavi: g0th: check permissions. I don't know what permissions are needed for webdav. Isn¡'t that explained in the doc page?
Bsfez: ask in the devel list? (sorry I'm busy myself these days with a deadline) or request help from a consultant?
g0th: nothing of what I do is explained in the docs
Bsfez: yes i have already asked there, thanks Xavi
g0th: I just debugged it a bit
it works with tiki users
xavi: g0th: then please, add your knowledge to the docs :-)
g0th: but it does not work with ldap based auth users
I will
when I have more certainty
so webdav on windows 7 only seems to work with wiki users
eh tiki users
xavi: sorry g0th I can't help more (my knowledge in the matter is very limited)
lphuberdeau: g0th, sept_7 would be the one to ask if you see him around
g0th: thx!
lphuberdeau: I got webdav working in the past, but it's not really something I deal with often, so I don't know all of the details
g0th: two major things seem to be necessary:
1. the webserver needs to have a proper certificate!!!
2. It only works with tiki users, not LDAP/etc users
lphuberdeau: unless your tiki is configured to use LDAP for auth, that would make sense
tiki is unaware of the windows users otherwise
g0th: it is configured for LDAP
and LDAP login works
(but not for webdav)
the ldap server is another server anyway
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lphuberdeau: I guess you really are in one of those cases I have no idea about ;)
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xavi: hi lphuberdeau
bbl
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xavi: lphuberdeau: do you know how to use the "center" param in plugin map?
I'm trying in the page http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
but I don't seem to get any zooming out (or in)
in fact, I'm a bit confused, since param "center" from plugin map says: "Center and zoom level of the map display."
I was searching during the weekend, and in other implementation of osm like the one in joomla(as far as I remember) they seemed to be using params "center" and "zoom" independently
I'm using center="16", or center="5" and I seem to get the same zoom and center effect
this is the syntax that I'm using in that page at demo.t.o: {map center="18"}
for instance
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lphuberdeau: it uses the same notation as the rest of the coordinates in tiki
either lon,lat,zoom or lat,lon,zoom, I always mix them up
xavi: ah, ok...
mmm, I'll try....
lphuberdeau: the location field on wiki pages actually displays it if I remember correctly
so you can just find out the location there and copy-paste
g0th: lphuberdeau: can you maybe help with this: http://dev.tiki.org/item4268, I also sent an email to the developer list
xavi: lphuberdeau: yay! it works!
thanks heaps, again!
I'll add the info in the tpl (that was missing)
g0th: is there a way to get more debug information from tiki?
in the code I see "debug" some times
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xavi: lphuberdeau: the coordinates are shown in tracker items, not in wiki pages
lphuberdeau: ah, quite possible
xavi: and in tracker items, there is a meaningful description (what I was missing from the plugin helper in wiki pages)
:-)
I'll add that meaningful description to the popup plugin helper
wu-lee: quick question: profiles, is there a way to snapshot an existing site's config as a profile?
xavi: hi wu-lee: I heard something, maybe in trunk?
ricks99: there
xavi: did you check if it's documented anywhere in doc.t.o or in profiles.t.o?
ricks99: theres a save as config in 9, but only works for perms
more in trunk iirc, as xavi said
xavi: hi ricks99
wu-lee: xavi: I did look on those, yes, and googled
sounds bleeding edge, then?
g0th: ok, another question: how does batch upload work?
ricks99: hi xavi :)
xavi: wu-lee: follow ricks99 comments
wu-lee: and please, help updating the docs with what you find and learn
g0th: lets say I ahve a folder /web/w3biomech/upload/ that contains some files that I want to access (based on the file name I guess) from the wiki
wu-lee: xavi: if i succeed, I'll see what I can add
xavi: thks wu-lee
g0th: I activated batch upload and I specified /web/w3biomech/upload/ as the directory, what I don't get is why I have to assign permissions for that, since permissions will be based on who has permissions to the folder (????)
ricks99: wu-lee: another work around: simply duplicate your db, as needed
wu-lee: sure, but that's not very selective
my intent was to audit and rescue certain parts of a configured demo
ricks99: ah
wu-lee: and also generally to be able monitor changes made by admins who don't keep notes
ricks99: g0th: which permissions do you mean? there's a tiki batch permission that is required to use the batch upload function
xavi: g0th: no idea (to me, batch upload sounds more like upload a zip file and get it unzipped on teh file gal; so probably, I'm not the right person to answer this question of yours)
ricks99: batch upload is different that zip upload afaik
batch upload = batch upload *to a tiki file gallery*
g0th: I have someone that sends a file each week (by cronjob I guess) via sftp to some folder
I would like to put the content inside a wiki page
xavi: goth: funny. I have no clue, but it seems that it's me who copied some content from somewhere (maybe some email message?) and pasted in the proto doc page for batch upload: http://doc.tiki.org/Batch+upload
ricks99: g0th that's completely different. you want to extract the text from a file and put it in a wiki page?
g0th: or just include it as an iframe, I don't care
xavi: g0th: ^ and please, improve this page once you know more about it: http://doc.tiki.org/Batch+upload
g0th: the file is problably an html file
ricks99: can simply use snarf plugin
batch upload is used only to move files to a tiki file gallery that have ftp to the site (that is, not using the Tiki upload function)
g0th: ok, thx
but there is still the issue how to access the uploaded content
ricks99: via snarf plugin
g0th: I would like to put it outside the documentroot
how does the wiki access it?
ricks99: in the snarf pluign, you pass the url
g0th: it is not accessable via url?
ricks99: if you want to show it in an iframe, just use the iframe
plugin
g0th: like file galleries are not accessable via url
ricks99: sorry.. i'm confused. are you trying to add a file to the *file gallery* or display within a wiki page?
g0th: I don't care actually
ricks99: if the file is already on your server, simply use the iframe plugin
g0th: All I know is: I will receive a file via sftp, I would like to _not_ have it accessable for everyone
but somehow show it to wiki users
ricks99: ah..
g0th: ideally make it a file in file gallery
somehow
ricks99: in that case, you can use the batch upload to move it from yoru sftp location to the file gallery
then use tiki perms to limit access to that file gallery
g0th: ok, how does it work?
lets say the sftp dir is /web/w3biomech/upload/
I enabled batch upload and set the dir to that, now what?
ricks99: go to batch upload
select the files to move
select which tiki file gallery to move them into
click GO
g0th: it is uploaded periodically
should happen automatically
ricks99: tiki batch upload does not happen automatically
g0th: hmm, what else could I do?
the only thing that comes to my mind is to upload to the document root
ricks99: pls see docs for details:
http://doc.tiki.org/Batch+Upload
g0th: I already read it, it is not really enlightening
ricks99: there is no function in tiki (afaik) to automatically move files into a file gallery
g0th: ok, so I use this plugin you mentioned
is there a way to include content from a folder outside the documentroot?
hmm or is it possible to move files to the file gallery with a console script?
ricks99: if you "include" == "simply display" then yes. via an iframe
g0th: (on the wiki server)
ricks99: but how do I access something outside the documentroot?
ricks99: via url
g0th: "/var/files" ?
e.g. /var/files/file.html ?
ricks99: you simply pass the url as the src parameter.
pls see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/pluginiframe
g0th: that's for web urls
ricks99: usually ../var/.. is not a valid URL
yes, *web* URL
g0th: of course not
it is on the server
ricks99: (thought that's what we were talking about)
oh.. most web hosts (that i've used) don't allow URL access to /var/
g0th: that was intentional
ricks99: if yours does, great
g0th: same as file galleries
tiki has access to file galleries but they reside outside the documentroot
ricks99: sorry, but i don't really understand what you're asking. i suggest simply using the IFRAME plugin with your URL
g0th: is it possible to update a file in a file gallery using a script?
ricks99: possibly
g0th: I cannot give an url since the file is not available publicly
It is sent to the Wiki server via sftp
and it is supposed to be viewable only by wiki users
ricks99: ok... again... then you will need to move it to the file gallery
again, you can use the batch uplaod for this
g0th: via script?
ricks99: again.. .i am not aware of any automated way
g0th: I get a file each day
ricks99: have you tried writing a script?
g0th: I cannot do that task each morning
I would not even know how to start
what about webdav?
hmm
I could make the sftp directory a webdav mount
ricks99: i don't use webdav
sorry
g0th: with some specific user
is it possible to access file gallery files by name?
instead of id?
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g0th: because I fear that if I use a webdav mount and sftp overwrites a file that the id will change
ricks99: not sure. but why not simply use teh same ID each time?
g0th: anyway, thx for the help
ricks99: when you update the file, the ID remains
g0th: see above
webdrive webdav client changes the id each time
hmm, maybe davfs on linux is better
dunno
ricks99: when you add a file to the tiki file gallery, you can keep the tiki ID the same
g0th: not with webdrive, but yeah _maybe_ with davfgs
ricks99: sorry... thought you wanted to use tiki file gallery?
i'm confused.. not sure i can help you. sorry
g0th: yes file gallery but via webdav
since I need to update the gallery based on an sftp upload
so I have:: file gallery <- webdav mount using davfs on the wiki server <- the same directory is used for sftp upload <- sftp uploads a file each day with the same name...
that was the best I dea I could come up with
ideally I would have the guys that upload the file each day upload it directly to the wiki, but I am already extremely happy, that we get the file at all
so I just have to deal with what I have ^:(
ricks99: you might also look at the tiki 'mail-in' fucntionality (if the fiile is not too large). simply have the them mail the file each day and create a new wiki page or forum thread for it
xavi: lphuberdeau: the advanced options of PluginMap don't show when you click at "advanced options" button, of the popup plugin helper
they didn't show up before my commit either, btw
ricks99: not perfect, gut requires no additional manual process
xavi: and since I did look at the code, I know that there are some options with the advanced => true as argument...
so something might be wrong out there.... (beyond my skills...)
lphuberdeau: xavi, I have no idea about the plugin helper, it should be plugin-independent
xavi: I hope in TikiFestBarcelona3 I can learn about how to debug better
ok
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g0th: ricks99: that sounds really nice!
xavi: lphuberdeau: I know it *should* be independent, but however, it is not (FYI). other plugins display the advanced options when you click on the button for advanced options. Plugin Map doesn't. (in my same localhost, and similar bevhavior in a production server)
ricks99: maybe you might know which js issues can be there ^?
js or css or ... (beyond my skills)
lphuberdeau: sorry, I just can't maintain the whole thing by myself, that's one of the issues I won't begin digging in
xavi: ok, fair enough, lphuberdeau
it was just a "FYI" (in case you do use it for some customers)
-: xavi needs to learn how to use some debugger
xavi: phpstorm seemed nice and recommended, and suddenly, license expired.... (those nasty things with propietary software)
I wish I get good advice in the next tiki fest
-: xavi vanishes to his own deadline-related work
g0th: ricks99: hmm, I'm a bit confused, I setup an email address for wiki-put in mailin
now any wiki user can send a mail and the page in the subject will be overwritten?
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wu-lee: how stable is 9.0 right now? I ask because a fresh upgrade seems to have a major problems with the WYSIWYG editor on wiki pages (cursor not in location where editing is happening), and saving pages generates errors
like this:
Strict Standards: Declaration of HistLib::get_page_info() should be compatible with that of TikiLib::get_page_info() in /home/railfutu/i/sites/testing.railfuture.org.uk/lib/wiki/histlib.php on line 0
Strict Standards: Declaration of Text_Diff_Renderer_character::_lines() should be compatible with that of Tiki_Text_Diff_Renderer::_lines() in /home/railfutu/i/sites/testing.railfuture.org.uk/lib/diff/renderer_character.php on line 0
google hasn't found any clues so far
except: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/21644 which looks possibly related but different. (And evidently a bug?)
g0th: wysiwyg switching to wiki syntax and back is not working at all for m
but otherwise 9.x seems nice
in comparison
wu-lee: g0th: can you elaborate? do you mean mixing HTML and wiki markup?
g0th: if I edit a page in wiki syntax mode and then switch to wysiwyg and then switch back again everything is messed up
wu-lee: hm. I'm trying to replace a HTML Page with a wiki page using embedded HTML
Seems impossible to save it.
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wu-lee: I'm not switching anything in the WYSIWYG editor, at least, not pushing any buttons.
g0th: arg
mailin is really insecure
I'd rather not use :(
wu-lee: seems to be related to the "allow HTML" option, which if unchecked, I can save my page
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wu-lee: actually, I retract that - must be a coincidence, "allow html" unchecked, problem persists next save.
g0th: is it possible to have a folder on the wiki server that is only accessable by wiki users?
that would be perfect
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wu-lee: huh..? "wiki: wysiwyg editor" - unchecked.
and yet, there it is.
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tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42537 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-user_drilldownmenu.tpl: [FIX] mouseover integration for hiding
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42538 10/branches/9.x/lib/: [ENH] bring 9 external up to date to use jquery w/ drilldownmenu
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r42539 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] Replacing version check in the admin panel
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r42540 10/trunk/lib/ (core/Tiki/Version/Checker.php test/TikiVersionTest.php): [ENH] When a major version update is recommended (not required), use the last version in the supported branch as part of the message
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RobertPlummer: Jyhem, Jyhem_laptop: When you get a chance, do you think you could test the ~np~ functionality in trunk with the Jison Parser?
Jyhem, Jyhem_laptop: I think I've nailed it!
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Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4272 - - Admin unable to use some File Gallery functions, such as "Create File Gallery" due to conflict with (tiki_p_admin) permission. - http://dev.tiki.org/item4272
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Jyhem_laptop: lphuberdeau: do you know phpstorm?
lphuberdeau: no
RobertPlummer: Jyhem_laptop: I do.
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wu-lee: Anyone here able to comment about the WYSIWYG editor? RobertPlummer, google finds a reference to you saying "wysiwyg is a mess" http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-04-26,Thu
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: The implementation isn't too clean.
wu-lee: I am finding it doesn't deal with long lines, the cursor is in a different place to where editing is happening
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: And really the reason isn't wysiwyg, it is the wiki parser, which is being re-written from scratch using the Jison Parser php implementation.
wu-lee: What browser?
wu-lee: firefox 14.0.1 on Ubuntu Lucid
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: It currently uses ckeditor, which is one of the most stable wysiwyg editors out there.
wu-lee: I've seen it working fine elsewhere
In Druapl
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: What version of tiki?
wu-lee: In my Tiki 9.0 install, it is quite hard to use.
And I don't seem to be able to turn it off.
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: What options do you have set?
Was it on by default?
wu-lee: yes
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: It could be the syntax highlighter.
wu-lee: I've disabled and re-enabled it
RobertPlummer: the syntax highlighter too?
wu-lee: Hm, I wasn't aware of that being distinct
it *looks* like a WYSIWYG editor
RobertPlummer: go to tiki-admin.php and search for "highlighter".
-: wu-lee goes to check
wu-lee: ok, syntax highlighter is enabled
-: wu-lee waits for page to load....
wu-lee: I seem to be running into all sorts of oddities. tiki-admin.php?page=textarea&highlight=feature_syntax_highlighter is a blank page, no content
ricks99: sounds like you dont have enough php memory. common issue
see http://doc.tiki.org/requirements for details
wu-lee: I'll look into that
The textarea settings says "Syntax Highlighter (CodeMirror)" and the help is "Enables syntax highlighting with the help of CodeMirror"
Jyhem_laptop: RobertPlummer: but you are not coming at Barcelona, so your use of phpstorm is somewhat irrelevant :-)
wu-lee: Which I'd never have realised was relevant without help
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: Sorry, wanna help make it better?
Jyhem_laptop: Touché
Jyhem_laptop: Jison parser is eagerly awaiting your expert opinion.... ;)
wu-lee: I'd love to help, time permitting
Jyhem_laptop: I have no trunk running and I'm hardly a parser expert !
RobertPlummer: Jyhem_laptop: But you are an ~np~ expert :)
I believe I have cracked it's parsing as of this morning, this is something we should setup a test for.
Jyhem_laptop: is it on demo.to ?
RobertPlummer: When it updates, changi when was the last svn up?
changi: on demo.t.o/trunk?
wu-lee: ricks99: phpinfo() says - memory_limit: 1028M, max_execution_time: 90, max_input_time: 90
seems to be sufficient?
ricks99: should b.
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: Oh yea. On an optimized tiki you should use 1/3 that.
easily.
(On dev system I have 1/3)
ricks99: turn on tiki error reporting and try to re-load the page
wu-lee: Error reporting is on, I think
It was on "All errors", now is on "All except strict"
RobertPlummer: Jyhem_laptop: I fixed it before 10am est this morning.
wu-lee: because strict errors seemed to be preventing me from saving any wiki page edits
This case: no error, just a blank page, zero content
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: What is the page it is dying on?
wu-lee: Do you have the content too?
wu-lee: RobertPlummer: much better without syntax highlighting
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: Must be a long page?
wu-lee: It's tiki-admin.php?page=textarea
RobertPlummer: wu-lee: Have you cleared cache?
wu-lee: The content of the page is empty. Not a sausage.
Yes, I think so. Trying again.
Cleared. Still nothing.
RobertPlummer: Does it time out?
Can you look at your php error loh?
log
wu-lee: Header says: Content-Lenght: 20nn200 OK
Hm, found them.
Out of memory (allocated 70778880) (tried to allocate 40961 bytes) in templates_c/a6a60ffeb3c14c9206eb69c7e5f51601adb484d0.file.shared-flags.tpl.php on line 77
RobertPlummer: Jyhem_laptop: I think we have it! - http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=np+testing
I know nothing about flags wu-lee
Jyhem_laptop: After checking http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki.jison I think it may be out of date.
But should work in most cases.
The update I put in this morning seems much more solid.
lphuberdeau: g0th, I'm working on a patch for .docx, quite unhappy with duplication all around regarding this, so it will take a bit more time
that whole fixMime is misplaced
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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r42544 10/trunk/lib/ (mime/mimelib.php prefs/tiki.php): [ENH] Enabling by default as fileinfo is available by default with PHP 5.3
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wu-lee: trying to find information about assigning modules so they are visible only with certain wiki pages...
is this possible in 9.0?
This page hints that it is possible: http://twessentials.tikiforsmarties.com/Using+Modules&structure=Tiki+Essentials
"You can use modules to add content to your Tiki, or *specific* pages." (my emphasis)
However, it's not obvious that it is possible looking at all the other docs I can find. Although I might be searching with the wrong terms.
RobertPlummer: Jyhem_laptop: You around?
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wu-lee: Ok, I found out with a lot of digging around - set a page parameter: http://doc.tiki.org/Module+Settings+Parameters.
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