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[01:39] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03amette * r42929 10/trunk/tiki-check.php: [ENH] Better explanation for date.timezone problems
[01:39] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r42930 10/trunk/tiki-install.php: If PHP version is not recent enough, add a link to Tiki Check (the site admin will likely have other things wrong)
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[11:45] rinnan dang, I made my menus disappeared while I was playing with a new logo. What is the most common mistake that may cause such a disappearence?
[11:45] rinnan It ought to be something pretty simple I guess
[11:47] rinnan funny thing is, they reappear when I'm entering the tiki-admin_modules.php
[11:49] rinnan ahaha, found it. Silly mistake indeed (sorry for spamming)
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[12:32] luciash rinnan: no problem
[12:33] amette rinnan: but please let others know what caused it to make up for the "spamming" :)
[12:33] amette polom btw
[12:33] luciash polom :)
[12:33] amette :)
[12:35] luciash for fabricius: http://doc.tiki.org/Custom+Code+HowTo+-+jQuery&structure=Tutorials
[12:39] Jyhem polom
[12:40] Jyhem I just realised there are both libapache2-mod-fastcgi and libapache2-mod-fcgid
[12:40] Jyhem which is best ?
[12:42] amette isn't mod-fcgid a rewrite of mod-fastcgi? like newer, better, faster?
[12:44] rinnan amette: but of course. I fiddled with the admin-look and feel menu. Under the general layout tab (this was where I was playing with the logo on my site). Turns out I managed to choose "Never" as module zone visibility. Not a good idea ;) When I altered back to "only if module" everything worked fine. Just a case of messing with something I sisnt quite know
[12:44] rinnan didnt..
[12:44] amette rinnan: aah, ok, thanks! :)
[12:45] amette Jyhem: no, it doesn't seem to be that easy: http://blog.chty.org/post/2007/10/08/151-apache2-mod_fcgid-vs-mod_fastcgi
[12:45] amette this seems to help: http://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=4385
[12:46] amette I'd try mod_fastcgi as it seems to follow the FastCGI principle closer.
[12:46] Jyhem amette:  Well that's good news as it's what I have currently running :) It's just that http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3-p4 says some software need fastcgi. Software I don't need :)
[12:46] Jyhem no, fcgi is  the currently running one
[12:46] * Jyhem looks up the links
[12:54] Jyhem Yes, I need to try mod_fastcgi but not on the prod machine I install right now :-(
[12:55] Jyhem First link is from 2007 and I would not use performance comparisons from 2007. But second link is pretty convincing
[12:59] amette yup, I think so, too
[13:24] amette what is the "correct" way to add some javascript to my tiki? thanks to <x>, I can only come up with editing templates!? Is that really the correct way?
[13:25] Jyhem html plugin?
[13:27] amette and then use that in a module that I put in the topbar and hide it?
[13:34] amette wow - gives me smarty compiler errors :(
[13:38] amette that's massive crap.... I'm admin! Why am I not allowed to shoot myself in the foot, hm?! I hate software that thinks it knows better! Fuck you <x> !!!
[13:40] * amette turns to more uplifting problems
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[13:47] Jyhem amette: +1
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[14:02] xi_ Anybody out there?
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[14:03] xi_ i just installed a tiki and when i try to register a new user i get the following error showing up ____ Error(s) Clear errors      Required features: feature_trackers, feature_ajax, wikiplugin_tracker. If you do not have the privileges to activate these features, ask the site administrator.
[14:04] xi_ I wanted to get it off the screan, so i play around with the function to report errors in general preferences..... now this option is vanish from site too
[14:05] xi_ how can i make this error disapear from new user registration?
[14:11] amette xi_: It looks like you configured to use user trackers for additional information but got it wrong somehow? look for that feature and disable it
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[14:30] xi_ I dont know how to look for it... :-( Im totally new to tiki
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[14:31] xi_ Actually i was very surprised that the instalation went on without any problem, very happy about it. I just dont know what choices i made doing it.
[14:32] xi_ You think i better install it from start again? i did disable the install function...that i remember.
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[14:52] luciash amette_: the correct way is L&F -> Customization -> Custom Javascript or custom.js in your styles/theme dir or using the {jq}...{/jq} smarty block
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[14:53] luciash in module or whatever or {JQ()}...{JQ} wikiplugin in wiki page
[14:54] luciash otherwise I agree with the f<x>in' <x>
[14:54] luciash statement
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[15:13] jonnyb polom, been a long time!
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[15:15] wu-lee hello, is there anywhere I can test a potential bug regression on an install of tiki 9.0, to compare with 9.1 (i.e. demo.tiki.org)?
[15:15] wu-lee apart from on my own server, which definitely exhibits the problem (article images apparently get corrupted when the article is edited)
[15:16] jonnyb hi wu-lee - not that i know of, sorry - we only really have the latest svn versions on demo.tiki.org, and the other *.tiki.org sites should be on at least 9.1
[15:18] wu-lee thanks, will have to think of something else then...
[15:19] wu-lee aha: http://www.opensourcecms.com/scripts/details.php?scriptid=63
[15:23] jonnyb so up to date isn't always best! :)
[15:24] jonnyb I found an ISP the other day offering Tiki 3.2 as their most up to date install!
[15:24] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r42931 10/branches/9.x/lib/prefs/session.php: changing default session from unlimited to 1 week
[15:24] * Jyhem shivers
[15:24] Jyhem hi jonnyb ! Back home ?
[15:25] jonnyb hi Jyhem - yes finally, but off again tomorrow :(
[15:26] jonnyb does anyone know if "auto" merging is still happening/possible?
[15:26] wu-lee jonnyb: bah, it's actually 8.4
[15:26] jonnyb have some fixes for some more registration fixes so far in 9.x
[15:26] jonnyb bad luck wu-lee
[15:27] jonnyb i guess one way to see is to try a merge...
[15:27] Jyhem probably. I hard nothing about stopping merges
[15:28] * Jyhem is knee deep in sysadmining this week :)
[15:28] jonnyb it usually gets too messy somewhere around x.1 or x.2
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[15:44] CIA-99 tikiwiki: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 42713 to 42931
[15:44] CIA-99 tikiwiki: Conflicts manualy fixed on:
[15:44] CIA-99 tikiwiki:  lib/filegals/filegallib.php
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[15:58] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42937 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 42931 to 42935
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[16:45] amette_ luciash: thanks a bunch! That helped a lot! :)
[16:46] amette_ ( and btw - "fu<x>in'" is hilarious :D )
[16:48] amette_ although sadly the custom Javascript in L&F doesn't allow me to insert something like <script src=>... damnit... so lemme try that {jq} stuff
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[16:52] amette_ ah, custom head works :)
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[17:27] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42939 10/trunk/lib/headerlib.php: [FIX] Update jquery.mobile to 1.1.1 in trunk headerlib
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[17:48] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03amette * r42940 10/trunk/tiki-check.php: [ENH] Indicate if mod_php or CGI
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[19:03] Jyhem what is the "A challenge password []" field for, when creating a SSL certificate ?
[19:06] jonnyb not sure - think you can (usually) leave it blank
[19:08] Jyhem I know I can leave it blank.
[19:09] Jyhem But since this is a paid-for multi-domain certificate, I have only one go at it and I just wonder if I'm not missing something useful.
[19:11] Jyhem Obviously, nobody uses it (no mention in any tutorials, apart fro stressing it's optional). So I won't either :)
[19:12] jonnyb sorry - not been there...
[19:12] amette_ Jyhem: a challenge password is usually not needed - it can be used by the certification authority to authenticate you
[19:15] amette to be more precise: it will be embedded in the CSR which basically only the CA knows (and you, since you embedded it there), so the CA can ask you for the challenge password to know that you are the one who sent the CSR
[19:15] luciash amette: yes, external script linking goes to head, actual script code can go in the custom JS part
[19:16] amette cool, thanks bro :)
[19:16] Jyhem amette: thanks. I see the purpose
[19:18] Jyhem amette: since my CA actually insists on checking my ID through the admin email of the concerned domain, I see why they also say the challenge password is optional
[19:18] Jyhem If *they* won't want it, I guess nobody will :)
[19:19] amette yup, I would leave it blank, too - more hassle than use
[19:19] Jyhem Yup. KISS rules :)
[19:19] amette :)
[19:19] luciash amette: although if it is about jQuery dependent scripts, it is better to use the http://doc.tiki.org/Custom+Code+HowTo+-+jQuery&structure=Tutorials way ({jq} block with $.getScript())
[19:19] luciash polom jonnyb !
[19:20] jonnyb hi luciash
[19:20] amette yeah, true - hi jonnyb - good to see you :)
[19:20] jonnyb you too
[19:20] jonnyb so annoyed i missed BCN :(
[19:20] amette luciash: no, no jQuery for me yet - that's something I will have to look into soon though :)
[19:21] amette yeah, would have been lovely to have you around more (in time and/or space)
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[19:21] amette fabricius: tiki-check.php made some progress, many new checks - you might want to test and send me the outputs of your servers to see if anything goes haywire :)
[19:23] luciash in case anybody missed TikiFest BCN 2012: https://picasaweb.google.com/mindbro/TikiFestBCN2012?authkey=Gv1sRgCJONrZC52q_7OQ
[19:23] amette lots of sleeping people... ;)
[19:23] luciash heheh
[19:23] jonnyb :D
[19:24] luciash fabricius: hi, check the irc log, i sent you some hint
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[20:56] amette Do we use ImageMagick as a fallback at all any more? I can't find any reference to it in installer/tiki-installer.php.
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[21:07] xi_ hi, I need a little help with a tiki issue. i keep getting the following error message for new user register ---- errorsError(s) Clear errors      Required features: feature_trackers, feature_ajax, wikiplugin_tracker. If you do not have the privileges to activate these features, ask the site administrator.
[21:09] amette well, if you didn't follow my previous advice, why not try enabling those features?
[21:10] xi_ Hi Amette, i did not see your advice, my internet kick me out of teh chat
[21:10] xi_ how can i enable thise features?
[21:11] amette Admin->Features
[21:11] xi_ ok i follow you
[21:11] xi_ which features should i enable now?
[21:11] amette and well, you should also just use the search function in the admin panel
[21:11] amette the error message told you
[21:12] amette but honestly, if you are so lost, my previous advice is easier to try: 14:11 < amette> xi_: It looks like you configured to use user trackers for additional information but got it wrong somehow? look for that feature and disable it
[21:12] xi_ i dont see any of those features there
[21:14] xi_ i have global features ...
[21:14] xi_ Wiki      File Gallery      Blog        Articles        Forums      Polls        Spreadsheet      Calendar      Newsletters      Search
[21:15] xi_ that are the only features i see here from those ones , wiki, blog, file gallery, articles, polls and search are enable
[21:18] amette I'm sorry xi_, but I don't have the time to walk you through everything click by click, please try to familiarize yourself with the Tiki administration a bit. Try to get the basics at least.
[21:18] amette A very good starting point is: http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/HomePage
[21:18] amette And once you got how Tiki works, http://doc.tiki.org is an invaluable resource.
[21:18] amette I suggest you install a fresh Tiki as you seem to have done some quite weird configuration already to get the error you are having.
[21:19] xi_ please, tell me, should i enable all the features i have available, to make that error disapear?
[21:19] xi_ ok i will do all from begin
[21:20] xi_ now the question is,.. because i choose at the configuration to disable the install, how can i make it work again. if i upload the install file again would that be sufficient?
[21:21] xi_ the install file or any other tile necessary? in place of uploading all the files again?
[21:25] amette xi_: I'm hesitating a lot to answer you, but I just can't be that cruel - so here is a hint: READ! Read what the installer tells you!
[21:26] xi_ ok now that you gave me a tip on how cruel you can be, please show me! I like to see how cruel people can be
[21:28] xi_ Im curious about what is burning inside you to tell me :-)
[21:31] amette all: I suppose the check for ImageMagick has been dropped because it is now integrated in PHP? I don't even find a USE flag in Gentoo for compiling it in (or not). So I suppose ImageMagick is always there and we don't need to check for it in tiki-check.php ?
[21:41] xi_ Ok Amette, i followed your advice and READ...i start a new installation. my excuses for the dummy questions but i only spend till now around 3 hours with tiki. thanks
[21:48] marclaporte amette:  the focus was on GD
[21:48] marclaporte but if it's an easy check, I suggest to add
[21:48] marclaporte Did we ever check for ImageMagick?
[21:49] marclaporte I think ImageMagick permitted a few more things like rotating an image
[21:52] amette marclaporte: yes, I remember seeing the installer doing a check for GD and ImageMagick - but apparantly the latter isn't done by the installer any more - the check seems quite useless as ImageMagick is integrated with PHP since lost-the-page-where-I-found-the-version
[21:54] amette I might add it as it is not too difficult, but I really don't know how useful it is.
[22:01] marclaporte are you sure? http://www.php.net/manual/en/imagick.installation.php  This » PECL extension is not bundled with PHP.
[22:04] amette marclaporte: aah, yes, there is a pecl-imagick package in Gentoo... so why don't we check for it in the installer any more?
[22:04] amette ok, will add the check, but we should probably think of dependencies between checks at some point... for now I will just explain that there is the GD alternative.
[22:06] marclaporte ok
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[22:32] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03amette * r42948 10/trunk/tiki-check.php:
[22:32] CIA-99 tikiwiki: [ENH] Check for ZipArchive class
[22:32] CIA-99 tikiwiki: [FIX] Reuse GD check result
[22:35] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03amette * r42949 10/trunk/tiki-check.php: [ENH] Check for ImageMagick
[22:47] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03amette * r42950 10/trunk/tiki-check.php: [ENH] Check for DateTime class for WebDAV support
[23:38] fabricius amette - is the tiki-check available in the sourceforge repos?
[23:38] fabricius amette_:
[23:39] fabricius luciash - you mentioned some hints in the log ... do you remember just about the time you answered? to make it a bit easier to find ;-) ... and thx
[23:43] amette fabricius: just seach for fabrius, luciash mentioned you
[23:43] amette and considering sf repos - yes: wget http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/tiki-check.php
[23:43] amette fabricius even
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[23:51] EO_ Is {toc} broken?
[23:52] EO_ (in 9.1)