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[01:04] fabricius refizul: I absolutely do not know, but I do not think so.
[01:10] refizul fabricius: That's what I expected. I don't know any project where this feature is available.
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[02:08] refizul I've got found an unexpected behaviour. I restrict the languages to say a, b and c, where a is default. The language switch drop menu is active. If I use language b or c, the menu shows those three languages available. If I use language a, all languages appear to choose from.
[02:10] refizul I cannot switch to them, but they are visible. I'm logged in as user, not as admin.
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[02:39] refizul something similar is well known: http://dev.tiki.org/item1073
[02:47] refizul that's odd. the problem is not related to all languages and not related to the default language
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[03:15] refizul it gets even worse: not all choosen languages are displayed depending on the active one
[03:17] refizul Restrict to five languages: English, French, Spanish, German, Arabic
[03:18] refizul English and Arabic gives a menu with three languages to choose from
[03:18] refizul German and Spanish give a menu with all languages to choose from, but only the five restricted ones will work
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[03:19] refizul French gives a correct menu with the five languages to choose from
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[13:51] ricks99 polom y'all
[13:54] ricks99 Don't forget to nominate Tiki for the CMS Award: http://info.tiki.org/article199
[13:58] rodrigoprimo ricks99: done :)
[14:00] ricks99 woo hoo
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[14:50] fabricius hi everybody
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[14:51] jonnyb polomolomolom
[14:55] ricks99 polom jonnyb & fabricius
[14:55] jonnyb hi ricks99 and all
[14:57] fabricius why everybody assumes, that I did not save, when I tried to move around pages in the structure?
[14:59] ricks99 ?
[14:59] jonnyb hi fabricius - tee hee, blame me for the hard-to-find save buttons :)
[15:00] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r43076 10/trunk/ (7 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 43013 to 43071
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[15:23] fabricius jonnyb: no blame, as I found it botto left first hand
[15:24] fabricius or are there more, different, specific? you are talking about buttonS?
[15:24] jonnyb fabricius: but it still fails to save your changes?
[15:24] jonnyb no, it just says "save"
[15:25] fabricius I actually try to install safari on ubuntu 12.04 and try
[15:25] jonnyb chrome should be the same
[15:26] fabricius yesteray Jyhem said it would work ... he wanted to present, moved s.th. and gosh it didn't save
[15:26] fabricius I tried in chrome and in firefox
[15:26] fabricius give me a few minutes and I try again
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[15:41] Jyhem hi folks!
[15:42] Jyhem I have to confirm what Torsten said
[15:42] Jyhem I set up a small structure in demo.to/9.x and I really liked it
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[15:43] Jyhem Then I went to the doc.to/Documentaion TOC and tried to rearrange and nothing changed
[15:43] Jyhem I did the same things (same Save button) in both.
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[15:43] Jyhem Only difference, in doc.to the structure is huge
[15:46] jonnyb hi Jyhem - on phone, with you shortly...
[15:47] fabricius ola, I was thrown out ... any news on structures? I still try with safari, but get an error "slow script on tiki.org/tiki-edit_structure.php?...
[15:47] fabricius "
[15:48] Jyhem I just described what i did yesterday night. Nothing new that you had not told jonnyb anyway
[15:50] fabricius playonlinux seems to have broken my touchpad
[15:50] fabricius arrrgl
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[16:02] fabricius not really working
[16:03] fabricius I do a restart now. s.th gets wrong on my computer
[16:03] fabricius c ya
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[17:22] fabricius jonnyb / Jyhem Jyhem_laptop -> the structure is saving (in firefox), or pretents to save ... but after saving the structure is as before and the changes are discarded!
[17:27] jonnyb fabricius: i'll try in fx (shortly)
[17:29] fabricius very good jonnyb
[17:30] fabricius I think tidying up the main doc structure would be a basic part of the website revamp
[17:30] fabricius so I leave it for now and the next days
[17:31] fabricius (the structure)
[17:31] fabricius thx
[17:37] jonnyb fabricius: just worked fine for me in firefox
[17:38] jonnyb moved a page and changed the alias, clicked save and then reloaded - changes were saved
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[17:43] Jyhem_laptop jonnyb: Let me do it again and report step by step
[17:50] Jyhem_laptop http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-admin_structures.php → "Documentation TOC " (link in Structure ID column) → Now loking at http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-edit_structure.php?page_ref_id=2 → Scroll down to 4.21.2 (Index of Modules) → click-drag #10: Module adsense to between #2 and #3 (action_similar content and babelfish links) for alphabetic order. Same with Module articles. Now Module adsense should be #3 → Scroll down and click "Save"
[17:50] Jyhem_laptop right above "Add page"
[17:53] Jyhem_laptop Not only is " babelfish links" still #3, but during the process, I seem to have "lost"  Module adsense. But that's unrelated, I guess
[17:54] jonnyb hmm, odd - i was trying to change the changelog pages right at the bottom - maybe some parts work and some don't?
[18:01] Jyhem_laptop changelog works: I moved 1.1 up to below 1.6
[18:02] Jyhem_laptop But now I can't correct it because the whole structure jumps when I approach the bottom (FF 15.0)
[18:03] Jyhem_laptop But the bottom section definitely does not have the issue
[18:04] Jyhem_laptop Also, I misplaced Module adsense out of 4.21.2 (Index of Modules). Then I dragged it back to position 3 of 4.21.2 (Index of Modules) but it went back to its old #10 position.
[18:04] Jyhem_laptop But it moved to the correct 4.21.2 (Index of Modules)
[18:04] Jyhem_laptop weird
[18:05] jonnyb certainly not quite right - but hard to see what the pattern is
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[18:17] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r43077 10/branches/9.x/tiki-view_blog.php: [FIX] blogs: Don't re-parse blog post 'data' field if not wysiwyg, leading to posts being double parsed on blog post lists but on individual posts (thanks eromneg)
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[19:28] changi|away jonnyb: hi, which script are you using to merge things in trunk from 9.x
[19:30] jonnyb hi changi|away
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[19:57] jonnyb changi|away: i use: "php doc/devtools/svnbranchupdate.php branches/9.x"
[20:00] changi|away jonnyb: thx
[20:01] jonnyb i had a question for you... but can't think what now :P
[20:01] jonnyb oh yes, the release diff script - does it still work?
[20:02] jonnyb i remember pkdille last used it on 6.something but it made a corrupted tarball - never checked again
[20:02] jonnyb (this following a mail on the dev list)
[20:04] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r43078 10/trunk/ (. tiki-view_blog.php): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 43071 to 43077
[20:04] jonnyb :)
[20:12] marclaporte Jonny; you mean a script to make 9.0 to 9.1 tarballs?
[20:12] jonnyb yup - there is one, might need a little maintenance but should work
[20:13] jonnyb probably /doc/devtools/tikireleasediff.sh
[20:15] jonnyb guess changi|away is really away now...
[20:20] changi|away jonnyb: no i'm still here
[20:20] jonnyb :D
[20:22] changi ok, let me try
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[21:00] changi jonnyb: done :)
[21:00] jonnyb coo - on sf.net?
[21:01] changi yep
[21:02] jonnyb i don't see it - in 9.1 presumably?
[21:02] changi don't know if it is in the right folder
[21:02] changi no i put it in parent folder
[21:03] jonnyb ah, i see it - in 9.x
[21:03] changi should i move it ?
[21:03] jonnyb i think it's a 9.1 thing, no?
[21:03] changi yep
[21:04] jonnyb looks like it has file in it :)
[21:04] jonnyb afraid we'll probably need a zip and gzip versions for the out of date people ;)
[21:04] changi ok
[21:04] jonnyb looks about right to me
[21:07] jonnyb the dev list email asking for this was from littledove on 18th sept - do you want to reply? or shall i?
[21:11] changi jonnyb: you can do it
[21:12] jonnyb sort of asked for that, didn't i!
[21:12] jonnyb will do
[21:14] jonnyb looks good, all three flavours there now, thanks!
[21:14] changi zip / 7z  / gz are on sf
[21:15] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: New user registration redundant email check - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45196
[21:40] fabricius rehi
[21:40] CIA-99 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r43080 10/trunk/lib/videogals/kalturalib.php: [FIX] kaltura: Fix cases where an account has been deleted or suspended and init of kalturalib fails, leaving uncaught exceptions and preventing changing the prefs (also removed a few unused vars)
[21:40] fabricius anybody there with some experience on MySql calloation problems?
[21:40] fabricius collation, sry
[21:41] jonnyb sorry no fabricius - Jyhem is the collation expert round here afaik
[21:41] fabricius I am helping on Tiki 9 installation and there a few french and other special characters are broken ... new ones are shown Ok
[21:41] fabricius JYHEM!!! are you there Jyhem?
[21:41] jonnyb ah, probably not collation but charset then
[21:42] * jonnyb shudders
[21:42] fabricius yes more charset
[21:42] fabricius I guess we have to "repair" the tables
[21:42] fabricius is there any option to change those broken characters?
[21:42] fabricius or a script?
[21:43] fabricius would not be so nice to do via a handmade regex
[21:43] fabricius but I think mostlikely possible
[21:44] jonnyb there's a button in the installer that will attempt a fix
[21:44] jonnyb but if you have a mixture (old ones bad, new ones ok) then you're stuffed i'm afraid
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[21:45] jonnyb you could use the installer to fix the pre-upgrade version of the database and then try and "meld" the two together
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[21:45] jonnyb how much data? (old and new)
[21:45] jonnyb hey lindonb - how goes?
[21:46] lindonb jonnyb: it goes good, thanks. Back from Norway?
[21:46] jonnyb yes - home for a while - Berlin next (month)
[21:46] jonnyb more crazy art stuff
[21:47] lindonb crazy but cool
[21:47] rinnan Hmm.. I seem to be unable to upload binary files (tried an excel worksheet and a zip file. Text files and jpgs seem ok) to my file galleries. Are there any settings I ought to be looking at?
[21:47] lindonb jonnyb: will you have the fish and table installations there?
[21:48] rinnan any ointers would be appreciated (tiki 9.1, using file galleries to store attachments)
[21:48] jonnyb rinnan: jpegs are binary so it must be something else
[21:48] fabricius jonnyb: about at least a few hundreds of wikipages ... a few French strings here and there (for ex. Montr�al, Qu�bec), but also names in the contributions and the sign ">" in a few wikiplugins ... maybe data in trackes aswell
[21:48] fabricius trackers
[21:48] jonnyb lindonb: no, it's an old piece - "Call of the Wild"
[21:48] rinnan jonnyb: thats what I was thinking as well. Will investigate further
[21:49] jonnyb rinnan: usually it's a size thing - max_upload setting in php.ini
[21:49] fabricius rinnan and jonnyb - there was a discussion recently about a problem to mime types - especially docx and such
[21:50] fabricius yes and size!
[21:50] jonnyb fabricius: probably easiest to fix manually - probably with a good text editor on an sql dump
[21:50] fabricius could be aswell, should look first
[21:50] jonnyb mime-type shouldn't make an upload fail, just have the wrong icon once it gets there
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[21:51] fabricius jonnyb: sure that we need to do manually? I am afraid thought.
[21:51] fabricius The REPLACE function seems not to be appropriate I think ... too specific to the string where to replace
[21:51] rinnan my uploads dont fail with an error message (as they do when the file is too large), it just hangs
[21:52] jonnyb fabricius: doing a global thing will probably make more issues than you have already
[21:52] jonnyb rinnan: what tiki version?
[21:52] rinnan 9.1
[21:53] jonnyb anything in the javascript console?
[21:53] rinnan on a fedora-box
[21:53] jonnyb tried different browsers?
[21:54] rinnan firefox and explorer
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[22:01] rinnan I get a "File added: " message in the tiki log
[22:01] rinnan even if the file doesnt get uploaded
[22:02] jonnyb let me try an xls one here, 1 mo...
[22:02] changi see ya all
[22:04] jonnyb rinnan: just worked fine here, so must be a server setup thing i guess
[22:04] jonnyb any firewall/anti-virus stuff on your server?
[22:11] rinnan jonnyb:could be. I doublechecked using a file that uploads ok on  a different install. Works ok on the other site, doesnt upload here
[22:12] rinnan so its obviously something wrong in my site, not a tiki issue as such
[22:12] jonnyb anything in the server logs (apache error.log etc)?
[22:13] rinnan jonnyb: I'm using a cherokee webserver, but there's no errors in its logs
[22:14] jonnyb maybe a clue in phpinfo? (search for zip and xls perhaps)
[22:15] jonnyb they're both possible carriers of viruses, so maybe there's some protection there
[22:17] rinnan jonnyb: I'm starting to suspect something like that. Looking in the logs..
[22:23] rinnan phpinfo contains nothing about xls though
[22:24] rinnan I'll try something different now
[22:24] jonnyb same here - maybe an apache setting
[22:25] fabricius jonnyb Jyhem Jyhem_laptop -  their admin fixed the charset special characters, but their are stil plenty of HTML characters in the text, like "(make sure you click on "post" to save your comment)" ... mind the "
[22:25] fabricius and in wikiplugins > is >
[22:25] jonnyb maybe the 9.x entity upgrade script/s failed
[22:26] fabricius known issue? same problem or a different problem?
[22:26] fabricius she made a new one and did it different - so the French chars and the Umlaute etc. are fixed
[22:27] fabricius the original Tiki 6 DB was indeed latin1_swedish
[22:27] jonnyb yes, was a big issue on 9.0 - RobertPlummer wrote some fairly complex scripts that should convert them, maybe somehow they failed to run (properly)
[22:28] fabricius they want to present things and continue work - can this be repaired afterwords?
[22:28] fabricius they just realised the charset problems one minute before deadline
[22:28] fabricius RobertPlummer: are you there?
[22:29] jonnyb the entity stuff (like " everywhere) is a different issue, but maybe related
[22:29] rinnan jonnyb: keep getting an "Internal Error in Server" message when trying uploads
[22:30] jonnyb rinnan: but nothing in the error.log? usually 500 errors get logged somewhere
[22:32] rinnan jonnyb: I only found it in the java-console in the browser. The server-logs seem to report everything is ok
[22:33] rinnan jonnyb: actually the 500 message is found in the web server access log
[22:34] jonnyb aha, and..?
[22:34] rinnan doesnt really explain anything though
[22:35] rinnan "<ip> - - [21/Sep/2012:22:29:02 +0200] "POST /tiki/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage HTTP/1.1" 500 328 "http://<site>/tiki/tiki-index.php" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) KHTML/4.8.5 (like Gecko) Konqueror/4.8 Fedora/4.8.5-1.fc17""
[22:35] jonnyb and nothing in the error log? (if it's enabled)
[22:36] rinnan theres nothing in the error-log for the last week or so
[22:37] rinnan I'll look into adding more detailed logging
[22:45] rinnan jonnyb: thanks for helping out. I've gotten closer to the core of things I think. Will resume debugging later
[22:45] Jyhem hi
[22:45] jonnyb no probs - i'm about dome for today too
[22:45] jonnyb good luck!
[22:46] rinnan thanks, and goodnite
[22:46] Jyhem fabricius: the  &gt; &quot;post&quot; is how stuff was stored in latin1_swedish
[22:47] Jyhem *maybe* the script in the installer (bottom of some page, plenty of warning, that script) couls help.
[22:47] Jyhem backup first
[22:49] * Jyhem looks up archives
[22:50] jonnyb Jyhem: i think entities (like &quot;) are stored the same in all char encodings, so i think it's not that but what happens in upgrade_999999991_decode_pages_sources_tiki
[22:50] jonnyb but it's way too much for my brain now - need to rest
[22:50] jonnyb more later (day off tomorrow, it's my birthday! :) )
[22:53] Jyhem but if the pages display entities, then mybe we have double encoding of entities still.
[22:53] Jyhem fabricius: do they see the entities on screen in Tiki or into the database ?
[22:58] fabricius Jyhem: I see the entities on screen and on screen in editmode ... I have not (notyet?) access to the database
[23:00] fabricius They should be visible in the database aswell - I guess
[23:00] fabricius what's if not?
[23:00] Jyhem Then they might be double encoded. Have you ran the double-encoding fixing script ?
[23:00] Jyhem when upgrading?
[23:02] Jyhem you answered about the screen/database part. I was just checking my understanding of the situation
[23:09] fabricius ah ok
[23:10] fabricius I have no access and the upgrade is beeing done by their admin, not by myself.
[23:10] fabricius where could I find the double-encoding fixing script?
[23:11] fabricius do you mean the massive error warning thing somewhere in the bottom of the installer?
[23:11] fabricius I might get access there
[23:11] Jyhem So, my suggestion is : 1/ backup database 2/ go to installer nd run the double-encoding fixing script 3/ quit installer, flush caches and look if things improved
[23:12] Jyhem Yes, the massive error warning thing somewhere in the bottom of the installer :) That one :)
[23:13] Jyhem If it works, bingo. If it does not, restore from the database backup I mentioned at step 1 (and flush again)
[23:14] Jyhem This is for the wiki pages contents, maybe the page names would still have an issue