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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: user access to pluginconvene requires ADMIN access? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45222 | [00:11] |
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| New Forum Posts: Divide by zero error - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=45224 | [01:21] | |
| wu-lee | can anyone tell me how to infer a tiki database schema version from the database?
I have a website meltdown, system error page beginning "Unknown column 'version_minor' in 'field list'..." I appear to have a mismatched database to the installation | [01:26] |
| gah, nevermind, I see the smoking gun now... | [01:37] | |
| marclaporte | heh | [01:37] |
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| wu-lee | smoking gun #1: move file gallery into database. web server times script out. website broken.
smoking gun #2: my precautionary backup prior to this mistakenly used wrong database name, contained old version of website database | [02:02] |
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hi. I'd like to what to set in tiki, If stored versions of pages doesn't contain diacritic. some letters are like: slúžiť *forget word "ask". sry noone knows? | [11:04] |
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| fidel | foster_: i dont even understand what you are asking for - mind re-stating your question in other words? ;) | [11:49] |
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| jonnyb | polom
luciash: you about? seems the CIA bot has fallen off, can you fix it - or anyone else? missing it... | [13:17] |
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| Caarrie|away | jonnyb: http://cia.vc/ | [13:25] |
| jonnyb | coo, that explains it - thanks Caarrie|away | [13:27] |
| Caarrie|away | i might be able to have Tiki|bot show the commits, let me tweak stuff
!rehash !st !sf | [13:27] |
| Tiki|bot | New commit: jonnybradley committed revision 43163 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files - jonnybradley committed revision 43163 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files
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| jonnyb | yay, nicely tweaked Caarrie|away! :) | [13:32] |
| Caarrie|away | but the rss feed does not show what you changed :( | [13:33] |
| jonnyb | or the commit msg - hmm, which rss is that? | [13:33] |
| Caarrie|away | http://sourceforge.net/export/rss2_keepsake.php?group_id=64258
if you can find a better feed i could use that instead | [13:33] |
| jonnyb | i'll have a rummage...
wonder if we could set something up on http://code.tiki.org | [13:34] |
| Caarrie|away | looks like git on sf supports this but not svn | [13:38] |
| jonnyb | :( | [13:39] |
| Caarrie|away | is there a mailing list for the commit messages?
ah there is but no rss feed... | [13:45] |
| jonnyb | no, i couldn't even find the one you did, so that's better than nothing i guess | [13:49] |
| Caarrie|away | http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=tikiwiki-cvs | [13:49] |
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| Caarrie|away | !sf | [13:51] |
| Tiki|bot | New commit: jonnybradley committed revision 43163 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files - jonnybradley committed revision 43163 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43163
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| Caarrie|away | that any better? | [13:51] |
| jonnyb | i guess the link's handy - seems a bit verbose though | [13:51] |
| Caarrie|away | !sf | [13:52] |
| Tiki|bot | New commit: jonnybradley committed revision 43163 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43163
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| jonnyb | i'm looking in the sf.net project admin bits to see if there's anything we can switch on | [13:52] |
| Caarrie|away | a little less text there | [13:52] |
| jonnyb | cool - can you control that? "Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository" could be just Tiki SVN | [13:53] |
| Caarrie|away | i am not sure of that but i can look into it | [13:54] |
| jonnyb | "committed revision 43163" could be "committed r43163"
etc https://sourceforge.net/apps/ideatorrent/sourceforge/ideatorrent/idea/65/ | [13:54] |
| Caarrie|away | yea that is about git | [13:55] |
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| jonnyb | so nothing for svn :( | [13:57] |
| Caarrie|away | nope :( | [13:57] |
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| jonnyb | oh well, thanks for getting something going, i'm going to write some code! :) | [13:59] |
| Caarrie|away | yw | [13:59] |
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| Tiki|bot | New commit: jonnybradley committed revision 43164 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43164 | [14:08] |
| New commit: sylvieg committed revision 43165 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43165 | [14:13] | |
| Caarrie|away | !sf | [14:24] |
| Tiki|bot | New commit: sylvieg committed revision 43165 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files - [string map { "Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository" "Tiki SVN" } "http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43165
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| Caarrie|away | !sf | [14:26] |
| Tiki|bot | New commit: [string map { "Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository" "Tiki SVN" } "sylvieg committed revision 43165 to the Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware SVN repository, changing 1 files"] - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43165
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| Caarrie|away | !sf | [14:54] |
| Tiki|bot | [tw] jonnybradley committed r43166 to the Tiki SVN, changing 5 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43166
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| Caarrie|away | !sf | [14:55] |
| Tiki|bot | 002New Commit:] jonnybradley committed r43167 to the Tiki SVN, changing 5 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43167
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| Caarrie|away | !sf | [14:56] |
| Tiki|bot | New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43167 to the Tiki SVN, changing 5 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43167
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| Tiki|bot | [New Commit:] jonnybradley committed r43167 to the Tiki SVN, changing 5 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43167
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| Caarrie|away | !sf | [14:57] |
| Tiki|bot | 002New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43167 to the Tiki SVN, changing 5 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43167
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| Caarrie|away | !sf | [14:58] |
| Tiki|bot | New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43167 to the Tiki SVN, changing 5 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43167
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| marclaporte | A new bot? | [17:41] |
| jonnyb | hi marclaporte - yes, CIA has gone :( | [17:41] |
| Tiki|bot | New Commit: amette committed r43175 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43175 | [17:42] |
| jonnyb | Caarrie|away fixed up a new one - http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-09-27,Thu&sel=27#l23 | [17:42] |
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| amette | nice initiative, Caarrie|away :) | [18:18] |
| Caarrie|away | np | [18:18] |
| amette | oh, sad story with CIA :( | [18:23] |
| marclaporte | who set up the new bot?
who know what happened to cia? | [18:35] |
| jonnyb | marclaporte: it's on http://cia.vc - Caarrie|away set up the new one (thanks!) | [18:41] |
| marclaporte | ouch | [18:45] |
| amette | dev down?
I mean: dev down! | [18:48] |
| marclaporte | http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle as well
changi: ping | [18:48] |
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| amette | really bad story with CIA... lesson learned: get your backups onto a harddisk you physically own | [19:02] |
| jonnyb | indeed - scary stuff!
(and hi amette :) ) | [19:02] |
| amette | heya jonnyb :) | [19:02] |
| dev back | [19:16] | |
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| arildb | I get "Tiki is unable to connect to the database" at http://dev.tiki.org/ ... so down again | [20:03] |
| changi | arildb: don't have that | [20:08] |
| arildb | trying again
works now | [20:08] |
| fabricius | polom y'a all
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| changi | Oh tikibot is now showing commit
nice Tiki|bot | [20:42] |
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| jonnyb | ok, i'm about done for the day... see you tomorrow | [21:18] |
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| RobertPlummer | polom all | [22:47] |
| amette | moloq Robert | [22:47] |
| RobertPlummer | I have 2 sites, both running the same version of tiki.
Databases are the same. They are on the same server. Yes, one thinks javascript is on, the other thinks it is off. I have honestly never had this issue, what do you guys think? | [22:47] |
| Tiki|bot | New Commit: amette committed r43180 to the Tiki SVN, changing 2 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43180 | [22:49] |
| amette | no clue, but if the database is exactly the same, they have the same settings for hostname, cookie-domain, etc. - perhaps something along those lines? | [22:49] |
| RobertPlummer | Ah, maybe.
It looks like nextdev has the same problem. Somehow javascript is not being loaded. at least most of it. I think that option should be removed. tiki now depends on javascript; | [22:51] |
| amette | which option?
ah, k yeah, disabling it would just break the tiki, wouldn't it? | [22:52] |
| RobertPlummer | if ($prefs['javascript_enabled'] != 'n') {
like 259 of tiki-setup.php also the != 'n' looks a bit alarming. Shouldn't it be == 'y' ? | [22:52] |
| amette | doesn't the reasonable check here depend on the default value?
I mean like the decision for which check is the reasonable one | [22:53] |
| RobertPlummer | I'm not sure what you mean.
It is logical to check it But the value is not being set right, thus killing tiki. Where does global $prefs originate? | [23:01] |
| amette | I haven't looked at tiki-setup.php in years (literally), so I don't know for sure, but I thought that if the default is e.g. 'y' then it would make sense to check for != 'y'...
.. no, that doesn't make sense either. now that I wrote it | [23:02] |
| RobertPlummer | It should always be looking for positive.
Or y it should never look for n because n == '' That line should be "if ($prefs['javascript_enabled'] == 'y') {" | [23:03] |
| amette | even if n == 'n' - as long as y is always set as 'y', it is much more sensible to check for 'y', true | [23:04] |
| RobertPlummer | Exactly
And that is outlined in our creation of prefs. | [23:04] |
| amette | ah, ok, then for sure
would it even fix your issue? | [23:05] |
| RobertPlummer | Found it! | [23:05] |
| amette | :) | [23:05] |
| RobertPlummer | line 303 of setup/prefs.php
'javascript_enabled' => 'n', Red flag! Jumping into history, I want to find offender. Probably a nasty merge | [23:05] |
| amette | there are other prefs that are also set to 'n' | [23:07] |
| RobertPlummer | And that is fine. | [23:07] |
| amette | oh, why? | [23:07] |
| RobertPlummer | But javascript_enabled is a pretty important one to be set to 'y'
Some things are defaulted to being off. Like sheet | [23:07] |
| amette | I think that has historical reasons when we still tried to live without javascript ;)
but shouldn't they then be '' and the check == 'y' ? | [23:07] |
| RobertPlummer | Yes,
amette: wanna do some code cleanup? :_ :) | [23:08] |
| amette | I didn't ask because of too much free time... ;)
... but understanding the inner workings of Tiki seemed worth discussing this! :) | [23:08] |
| RobertPlummer | I am back to 2010, and I see it still being set to n
I think this feature should be removed. Because of how much it is ignored. | [23:09] |
| amette | I hate to say it, but I think you are right....... | [23:10] |
| RobertPlummer | And because tiki needs javascript.
It is an ajax animal. | [23:10] |
| amette | I don't hate saying that because I disagree with you, but because I really liked websites working without javascript.
But nowadays... yeah... I think even the login doesn't really work without javascript any more?! | [23:10] |
| RobertPlummer | It does. | [23:11] |
| amette | ah, k, so that was changed | [23:11] |
| RobertPlummer | Let me rephrase. I think it should be default to 'y' | [23:11] |
| amette | what is the most fundamental thing in Tiki that breaks without JavaScript? | [23:11] |
| RobertPlummer | a simple 1 char change :) | [23:11] |
| amette | :)
yeah, that would be a compromise I could live with quite comfortably. | [23:12] |
| RobertPlummer | trackers, sheet, tons of modules, captcha (I think) | [23:12] |
| amette | amette nods | [23:12] |
| RobertPlummer | I just don't know why I have 2 sites and 1 works, the other does not. | [23:12] |
| amette | I wonder why I could use all that stuff... I don't remember ever explicitly switching on javascript.. | [23:13] |
| RobertPlummer | It is linked to think y vs n
I know, I don't even think you can access this feature on the admin panel. You have to insert it directly into the db. | [23:13] |
| amette | ah, lol
then it should probably be removed completely | [23:13] |
| RobertPlummer | I feel the same, but I know what'll happen on the devel list. | [23:14] |
| amette | or is there some code that recognizes if the browser is capable of js and then sets it accordingly?
hehe | [23:14] |
| RobertPlummer | I don't know. | [23:14] |
| amette | Disable JavaScript (found in features, general)
"Disable JavaScript for testing purposes even if the browser allows it." so maybe there is some automagic but the checkbox is not checked here... ... so it shouldn't be 'n'... | [23:15] |
| RobertPlummer | It doesn't seem to matter how I set it, it is being set to 'n'.
I think it might be the filter. Perhaps with some of the stuff we are doing with spam? | [23:20] |
| amette | I haven't yet wrapped my mind around all the spam stuff... but I don't know how what I understood so far could interfere here. | [23:22] |
| RobertPlummer | Don't they both use the filter? | [23:23] |
| amette | which filter? | [23:23] |
| RobertPlummer | tiki-filter or jitFilter
nm, it is neither of them. $prefs['disableJavascript'] is overriding itl lol we have a disableJavascript pref and a javascript_enabled pref? a little redundant? | [23:25] |
| amette | a little
disableJavascript is for testing purposes, ok... ... but wouldn't it be enough to just disable javascript then? | [23:26] |
| RobertPlummer | I agree | [23:26] |
| amette | BUT: if the javascript_enabled is some automagic browser recognition (as it is not available in admin panel), then it does make sense again to have an override pref | [23:27] |
| RobertPlummer | Not if it is stupid. | [23:27] |
| amette | lol
apparantly it does needs some bigger changes though to make it less stupid | [23:27] |
| RobertPlummer | So how is it being set to 'y' when it is defined as 'n' in global.php
What is really difficult about this is that I have to debug remotly, if I had it broken locally, I could fix it in a few seconds with phpstrom. storm | [23:29] |
| amette | yeah, a debugger is a great thing
you can't setup remote debugging? | [23:31] |
| RobertPlummer | phpstorm is so powerful
amette: Have you used it at all? | [23:32] |
| amette | nope, I use vim | [23:32] |
| RobertPlummer | awe man.
We have a free licence for it. | [23:32] |
| amette | I probably can edit waaaayyy faster than you! :) | [23:32] |
| RobertPlummer | lisence
lsl;dfkj | [23:32] |
| amette | free as in beer license - no, thanks
lol - yup, exactly like that :) | [23:32] |
| RobertPlummer | licence
I bought a new keyboard.... | [23:33] |
| amette | yeah, yeah :P | [23:33] |
| RobertPlummer | I have a hp pc running linux with a mac keyboard ;P
If you can't beat them, join them. | [23:33] |
| amette | that sounds like quite a bastard :D
hrhr | [23:33] |
| RobertPlummer | It has it's moments.
You may be able to edit faster, but I can find the problem quicker. I guarantee it | [23:33] |
| amette | I agree that my debugging interface is not as slick, but I really like the editor! :) | [23:34] |
| RobertPlummer | Honestly though, I've been using nano quite a bit. | [23:34] |
| amette | I tried Eclipse (with PHPEclipse) years ago and the thing that drove me away from it was the crappy editor. | [23:35] |
| RobertPlummer | I like vim, but I find it very quirky, but they all lack something.
Yea, it is bad. I urge you thought to download phpstorm, it really is fantastic. Just try it. The developer team is awesome over there. | [23:35] |
| amette | ok, I'll try it one day when I have my quality time to do things just for fun
so far I'm quite happy with my vim with ctags and my debugger integrated and you know: in the middle of evil... ... there's always 'vi' ;) | [23:36] |
| RobertPlummer | lol | [23:40] |
| amette | *g* | [23:40] |
| _qP | joined #tikiwiki | [23:47] |
| Jyhem_laptop | polom RobertPlummer, amette | [23:49] |
| amette | moloq Jyhem_laptop | [23:49] |
| Jyhem_laptop | Just read this discussion. I think there is a misunderstanding about the meaning of 'javascript_enabled' | [23:50] |
| amette | amette just was about to ask, if you know more...
please enlighten us! :) | [23:50] |
| Jyhem_laptop | disableJavascript is a pref, that's right. But 'javascript_enabled' is not a pref (I believe) | [23:51] |
| amette | ok, so we got that right? | [23:51] |
| Jyhem_laptop | 'javascript_enabled' is for trying to detect/test if the browser is javascript-capable | [23:51] |
| amette | alright | [23:52] |
| Jyhem_laptop | So it starts with 'n' and there is some attempt at javascript, which usually works, and then it is set to 'y'
if the javascript detection fails (someone is with lynx or has javascript disabled), it stays to 'n' does this make sense ? | [23:52] |
| amette | yup, totally
any idea on the initial problem RobertPlummer had? | [23:53] |
| Jyhem_laptop | no, I just remebered looking at this code years ago. No idea if someone broke it, or even what it did in detail :-( | [23:54] |
| amette | yeah, I could imagine (just as Robert) that it got broke while introducing AJAX stuff... | [23:55] |
| Jyhem_laptop | well maybe, ajax is recent, and there are still very few Tiki devs who "get" it. I certainly don't | [23:56] |
| amette | amette steps back, too | [23:56] |
| Jyhem_laptop | I don't even understand how the ajax queries are authenticated. Do they carry the php session cookie info? | [23:57] |
| amette | amette steps even further back | [23:59] |
| Jyhem_laptop | or does the ajax query reuse the same persistent http connection which got the page transferred? This is all mysterious | [23:59] |
| amette | but that is an interesting question... big potential for security issues there. | [23:59] |
| Jyhem_laptop | Jyhem_laptop hopes amette has a wall behind him :) | [23:59] |
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