[00:19] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Upgrading from 6.2 to a version that supports PHP 5.3.17 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=45250
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[17:37] fabricius polom
[17:38] jonnyb hi fabricius
[17:38] jonnyb i'm thinking about areas & workspaces, could do with some input
[17:38] fabricius following problem: I have been exporting a database with files stored in the database (bad, I know)
[17:38] jonnyb like on what to call things (new fields etc)
[17:39] fabricius now I am on the way importing the dump into a new database
[17:39] fabricius for that I splitted the filestable and exported in certain steps (1 to 50, 51 to 100, 101 to 150 etc.)
[17:40] jonnyb is this using phpmyamin?
[17:40] fabricius so I have a full Tiki database and an empty table tiki_files
[17:40] fabricius yes phpmyadmin
[17:40] jonnyb ok, so limited upload size - it's a pain
[17:40] fabricius I have now as above several sql files - parts of the one splitted table
[17:41] fabricius when I import the second file, it overwrites the existing tables instead of just adding the next lines
[17:41] fabricius what to do?
[17:41] jonnyb odd - what does the 2nd file start with?
[17:41] jonnyb if exists tiki_files drop tiki_files?
[17:42] fabricius ah!!
[17:42] fabricius drop-table thing!
[17:42] jonnyb and then create table...
[17:42] fabricius I open and check
[17:42] fabricius moment
[17:42] jonnyb yes, remove the lines about drop and create table from each subsuquent file
[17:43] jonnyb or, re-export them as just data (i.e. no structure)
[17:44] fabricius OK, maybe I'll have no time now, as I have to bring back my little son (who is baking pancakes right now.
[17:44] fabricius I will first try with deleting the lines and then, if necessary do the export a second time
[17:44] fabricius thx Jonny, I believe that is the problem
[17:45] changi fabricius: you maybe have a truncated at the begining of the sql file
[17:45] fabricius it is just about six or seven files, so not too much pain
[17:45] fabricius changi: truncated? I'll check
[17:46] jonnyb hi changi
[17:47] fabricius there is the DROP TABLE IF EXISTS line ... I'll delete this
[17:49] jonnyb and the create table block below it
[17:49] jonnyb you just want the INSERT lines
[17:52] fabricius the create table block contains the condition IF NOT EXISTS
[17:52] fabricius it seems to work ... first two files are there
[17:52] jonnyb ok, so it should be ignored then
[17:52] jonnyb :)
[17:55] fabricius have to go - see you later guys
[17:57] jonnyb ok bibi
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[19:02] amette ooops, wrong command *G*
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[19:35] arildb shouldn't the SVN comment be included in the IRC commiit message?
[19:36] lindonb yes, used to be
[19:46] arildb Would be nice to get the comments back
[19:53] arildb files / location where the files were committed used to be shown too... or?
[19:55] lindonb yes, used to be user, revision number, location and comment instead of link to sourceforge
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[20:07] lindonb jonnyb: hi jonny
[20:08] jonnyb hey lindonb - i didn't really mean for you to roll that notice fix back, more that i was too lazy to fix it!
[20:08] lindonb ok, misunderstood
[20:08] lindonb thought you were thinking it was a valid error to show
[20:09] jonnyb so much of out code is only for testing upgrades (without flushing caches etc), it just makes it all harder to read
[20:09] jonnyb well, the notice goes away when the prefs are up to date
[20:10] jonnyb but most of the fixes you've been doing are valid, imho - thanks! :)
[20:11] lindonb okay, i wasn't really aware of the distinction so this is helpful feedback
[20:11] jonnyb less code is best
[20:12] lindonb maybe it's a little fussy, but i dislike all the notices that appear on almost every page even with a fresh install
[20:12] jonnyb some places i see lots of smarty issets over and over on the same var, when one line in php would have been best
[20:13] jonnyb you can turn them off! :D (but i know what you mean)
[20:13] lindonb i think it gives new users a bad impression
[20:13] lindonb that even the most basic pages have hundreds of errors
[20:14] jonnyb well, they're not errors, as the code works
[20:15] jonnyb it's just php being picky, and if they really want to be picky they should use strong typing for vars
[20:15] jonnyb my 2¢
[20:15] lindonb you would prefer to ignore notices when we code?
[20:16] lindonb i take your point that many cases should be fixed before the tpl file is reached
[20:16] jonnyb no, i try and get rid of all of mine
[20:17] jonnyb notices usually expose a coding defect
[20:17] jonnyb i guess i'm just saying fixing them at the point the notice is generated is often too late really
[20:19] jonnyb i've often wondered why we don't use proper booleans in tiki, usually 'y' or 'n' - i'm sure it slow tiki down a little bit... (especially in smarty)
[20:19] lindonb i agree with that one
[20:20] lindonb most of the time I'm adding an isset or empty check and it would be the same check whether in php or smarty
[20:21] lindonb so it doesn't seem to make that much difference, except when there are multiple checks in the tpl as you mentioned
[20:22] jonnyb i guess so - but i still think that means the php is only setting a var sometimes, so is initially at fault
[20:23] jonnyb as i say, just my 2¢
[20:24] lindonb agree
[20:25] lindonb it is some laziness or cautiousness on my part as it can be difficult to identify all the use cases when the tpl might be called and am also concerned about created more errors than I fix
[20:26] jonnyb i often have trouble with conditionals (especially double negative ones)
[20:27] lindonb lunch on the table - be back soon
[20:31] jonnyb off for food too, bb
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[21:20] amette codemirror is soooo cool, but sometimes damn annoying when it messes with your cursor position :-/
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[21:38] Jyhem polom
[21:41] changi amette: +10
[21:49] marclaporte also, CTRL-F may be a problem
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[22:14] changi fabricius: did you find how to insert your files ?
[22:15] fabricius yes, but the last file seem to have broken the whole table - now I try to export just only as data, as you suggeste
[22:15] changi fabricius: ok
[22:15] changi marclaporte: i'm looking for a personnel GED tools, do you have a specific ?
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[23:02] Jyhem info: Gandi.net is a good place for buying SSL certificates
[23:17] marclaporte changi:  genealogy?
[23:20] Jyhem :)
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[23:21] Jyhem GED: Gestion Electronique de Documents
[23:21] Jyhem Document management system, or whatever initials you like :)
[23:24] fabricius General Educational Development
[23:25] fabricius I would opt for this one, but it also could be for:
[23:25] fabricius Gas Electron Diffraction
[23:26] marclaporte Tiki File Gallery with WebDAV is good
[23:26] marclaporte OwnCloud is pretty cool too
[23:27] marclaporte http://dev.tiki.org/Areas+Perspective+Multi-domain+dogfood  is a nice dogfood of PluginConvene.  Am I the only one who gets UTC and not my own time zone?
[23:27] fabricius marclaporte: this could be your personal setting
[23:27] fabricius marc, let me do s.th.
[23:28] arildb Hi, is there any way to have the "switch language" module limit the number of languages displayed to a defined set, e.g. for an english & norwegian site, only display the english and norwegian flags?
[23:29] fabricius yes arildb
[23:30] arildb how? ...I can't find such an option
[23:36] fabricius tiki-admin.php -> i18n -> limit site languages ... ctrl+shift+click ... save
[23:37] fabricius sorry, just doing s.th different, should have said straight away, not only yes
[23:37] fabricius be back in a minute or so
[23:41] arildb found it! Restrict supported languages
[23:41] arildb thanks fabricius
[23:43] fabricius back ... sorted so? you're welcome
[23:44] fabricius marclaporte: pls check http://dev.tiki.org/Areas+Perspective+Multi-domain+dogfood under the convene ... to avoid any future timezone missunderstandings, timeanddate.com offers free customisable clocks
[23:48] fabricius btw: include of one of these "systempages" http://dev.tiki.org/System::Clocks
[23:56] amette PluginConvene?!? w00t!! :D
[23:56] fabricius never hear?
[23:57] fabricius never heard?
[23:57] fabricius it's great
[23:57] amette used it two minutes ago for the first time
[23:58] fabricius afaik it is one of these cool things made by RobertPlummer
[23:58] amette RobertDoodle I'll call him from now on :P
[23:59] fabricius hehe
[23:59] fabricius do you like the clocks?