[00:00] amette yup, they are very nice, too
[00:00] marclaporte I like the clocks!
[00:01] marclaporte http://dev.tiki.org/System::Clocks sends me to home page?
[00:01] amette me too
[00:01] amette actually no - it sends me to /Development ?!
[00:02] amette which probably is the home page
[00:02] fabricius hehe
[00:02] amette but I really want to see System::Clocks
[00:02] fabricius use: http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=System::Clocks
[00:03] amette aaaaaah
[00:03] amette dirty little hack *G*
[00:03] fabricius {include page="System::Clocks" start="!Start-Berlin-London-UTC-Montreal" stop="!End-Berlin-London-UTC-Montreal"}
[00:04] amette the stop can be seen on the other page?!
[00:04] fabricius should not
[00:04] fabricius checking
[00:04] fabricius ahhhh
[00:05] fabricius damned
[00:05] amette :)
[00:06] fabricius that seems to be a bug
[00:06] fabricius see here: {include page="tagcloud" start="!Start" stop="!End"} http://wikiforyou.eu
[00:06] fabricius no !End shown on the page which includes!
[00:07] fabricius to show the stopmark makes no sense atall
[00:07] amette yup... maybe a missing newline or such? I mean: it works on your site..
[00:08] fabricius yes, but mine is a pre-10
[00:09] fabricius maybe nees a fix for 9er branch
[00:09] amette ah, possible
[00:09] fabricius I think, I remember, itworke in 9 before
[00:10] fabricius sorry, my "d" hangs on the keyboard ... it seems frequently to be reluctand to type all the time
[00:11] amette I know these problems - too much tobacco fell into your keyboard and now it jams it ;)
[00:11] amette but just take it out, clean it and put it back in
[00:13] fabricius I tell you what I usually o: I wait until it rie out and then I type harer until it's crushe into ust
[00:13] amette lol
[00:13] * amette had to laugh about the missing 'd's
[00:14] amette wait a bit longer and it will destroy the mechanism underneath the key - not a good option
[00:14] fabricius oh opps my " "  hanged again
[00:14] amette *G*
[00:14] fabricius hah I`ve got one!
[00:14] amette press the key down, grab it at the upper edge and pull gently, it will come off - takes a bit of courage at first, but basically it's quite harmless
[00:15] fabricius you see, it's alrea y rying out
[00:15] amette hehe
[00:15] fabricius slowly it seems
[00:15] amette or blow into your keyboard - that's the coward's option ;)
[00:16] fabricius maybe I should start to hammer, to check if it's rie enough
[00:16] fabricius d   d        d     d   d d  d  d   d d d d d d  d  d dddddddddddddd  d dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd ahhhh worrrks!!
[00:16] amette take a hammer for it to make sure
[00:18] fabricius yes, that is one of the advantages of laptops against the new tabs ... you at least can take a hammer, if the keyboard hangs ... try that on a tab or on a smartphone
[00:19] amette no problem, it'll create a nice spider web on the display ;)
[00:20] fabricius sure and you need not to download an app for that ... saves storage and performance  ... good idea though
[00:20] fabricius didn't think so smart first hand
[00:21] fabricius but that brings me to a general idea:
[00:22] fabricius since my Android is broken and I use my old standart mobile phone since a few month, I could just paint some apps on it
[00:22] fabricius saves even more storage and performance
[00:22] fabricius and I nee not to buy a new smartphone
[00:23] amette wicked idea!
[00:23] amette As soon as my phone breaks I'll get a piece of wood and paint my apps on it!
[00:23] fabricius grrmbl ... still have to type hard enough to crush the dirt under the "d"
[00:23] amette Especially the display readability in bright sunlight will be amazing!!
[00:24] amette honestly - do youself a favour and try to clean it
[00:24] fabricius amette yes ... we could make a website out of that
[00:24] amette let's bring that to kickstarter! We'll be millionaires in no time!
[00:25] arildb I am unable to apply profiles in the latest SVN pre9.2 version. Anybody else with the same problem?
[00:25] fabricius amette what do you think, wouldn't it be an idea just to try out to simply paint the next website and send it as screenshot or so? saves plenty of coding time
[00:27] amette yeah, absolutely, paint it and send by mail! That also fixes all the rendering problems with different browsers!
[00:27] amette snail mail that is - e-mail again only creates new problems
[00:27] amette arildb: nope, not had that problem - can you elaborate?
[00:27] fabricius arildb sorry, I simply didn't try that ... not worked with profiles for a while, whilst I have enough ideas, where I want to use again in future ... maybe I'd check when I get some time (not now, as I develop new business ideas with amette)
[00:30] arildb Just installed a fresh SVN pre9.2 version. Activated WYSIWYG. When the editor opens, it prompt to install the profile: : WYSIWYG_6x. Attempting to apply this fails. Seems unable to reach the profile server. However, I cann reach it via the browser: http://profiles.tiki.org/profiles
[00:30] amette hehe
[00:30] amette hmmm.... what error message?
[00:31] arildb no error message (as far as I see)
[00:31] fabricius arildb did you try to apply with another browser? sometimes some browser is reluctant to go ahead with certain stuff (mostly Chrome)
[00:31] amette hmmm, no idea.. sorry
[00:32] arildb tried FF. wil try other browsers
[00:32] fabricius for ex, sometimes I cannot upload files to Tiki with Chrome, but with Firefox
[00:32] amette chrome really pisses me off recently... although I use it as my default browser and mainly really do love it - it does have some weird issues on some pages
[00:33] fabricius I really need an autorecycle testing website
[00:33] fabricius some cron svn
[00:33] fabricius autonulling the database everyday
[00:34] fabricius could go there and quickly check applying profile for 9.x on a new babyface fresh installation
[00:34] amette well, if you have shell access that's really not tough to set up
[00:34] fabricius I have
[00:34] fabricius just to lazy to figure out
[00:35] amette ;)
[00:35] fabricius but maybe I should really do soon
[00:35] amette new challenges are the best way to learn
[00:36] arildb same effect in all browsers
[00:37] arildb all browsers = Chrome & Opera
[00:38] amette hang on, I have a 9.x checkout... let me just install a database, then I'll try here
[00:39] arildb http://profiles.tiki.org status seems to indicate a down state. However, (I can reach it via my browser).
[00:39] amette does your server have some firewalling?
[00:41] * fabricius goes for a fag
[00:42] amette hope you didn't roll it over your keyboard ;)
[00:42] fabricius ahhh and plugs the laptop to the powerline (5%)
[00:42] arildb I am running on localhost and port 80 is open. Does the profiles server use a special port?
[00:43] amette nope, it's all via http afaik
[00:43] marclaporte arildb: http://bluehost.tiki.org/simplescripts/tiki-admin.php?page=profiles also can't connect
[00:44] arildb which Tiki version runs on bluehost?
[00:44] marclaporte In the early days of profiles, this happened more, but I guess there are still some cases of issues
[00:46] amette yeah, I can't get a list of profiles either
[00:47] fabricius hmm maybe setting up a simple test-profile, that changes just one single preference, so it could savely be tried on a running site?
[00:48] fabricius just an idea
[00:49] marclaporte fabricius:  in my case, it's not even getting the list of profiles
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[00:52] arildb can it be a server problem? I am running 9.2 from SVN. Is anybody else running SVN 9.2?
[00:55] marclaporte try from the command line wget http://profiles.tiki.org/profiles
[00:57] fabricius arildb: you mean pre-9.2? hmmm yes, I should have at least one of these
[00:57] fabricius checking
[00:58] arildb marclaporte: wget is not a windows command. So, it didn't work
[01:00] marclaporte ok, well, something similar
[01:01] marclaporte see if the web server can access that URL
[01:02] arildb yes, I can reach it using the browser
[01:04] marclaporte but your Tiki can't list them?
[01:06] arildb that's correct
[01:11] fabricius my Tiki pre-10 can't list aswell
[01:11] fabricius maybe not connected?
[01:14] fabricius arrg
[01:14] fabricius I have an old 8.1 running
[01:14] fabricius cannot list there aswell
[01:14] arildb sounds like a server problem
[01:15] fabricius sounds like a problm with profiles.t.o
[01:15] mose heya marc (and everybody)
[01:15] fabricius uhhh my "e" is hanging ... maybe hammered too hard
[01:15] fabricius polom mose
[01:15] mose hola fabricius
[01:22] fabricius a question I have related to profiles since ages ...
[01:23] fabricius if I want to use one or a few profiles in a customers context ...
[01:23] fabricius and for whatever reason this profile would have to be not public ...
[01:24] fabricius is there a way to use a profiles repository, that is not public, but "secure" with a login / group permissions?
[01:31] Jyhem For the  UI oriented devs: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/09/26/useful-javascript-libraries-jquery-plugins/
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[01:46] marclaporte fabricius: maybe with tokens?
[01:46] marclaporte nice to see you mose!
[01:47] marclaporte arildb: I suggest you ping lphuberdeau, sylvie or jonnyb about the profiles not connecting
[01:48] marclaporte ...
[01:48] marclaporte For the record, Amit909 was asking me about MathJax, so I made this: http://doc.tiki.org/MathJax
[01:48] arildb I am going to bed soon. Will check again later.
[01:53] amette brace for commit
[01:54] marclaporte mose:  this may be something interesting for you: https://doc.tiki.org/Server+Check
[01:54] amette now it got really messy...
[01:54] amette ... I'm dreading the cleanup meanwhile.
[01:55] amette but phase 1 of tiki-check.php is finished now! :)
[01:55] amette \\o
[01:55] amette o//
[01:55] marclaporte mose: more for PHP than Ruby, but...
[01:55] amette \o/
[01:55] marclaporte Congrats Amette!
[01:55] amette cheers mate :)
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[02:11] marclaporte can anyone confirm that this page loads? https://tiki.org/Major+use+cases
[02:11] amette yes, it loads - forever....
[02:12] amette ... then wsod.
[02:13] mose wow it's still there ?
[02:13] marclaporte what could be wrong? http://tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=major+use+cases
[02:13] marclaporte mose:  what is still there?
[02:13] mose the white page of death
[02:14] marclaporte hahahahah
[02:14] marclaporte oh yeah
[02:14] mose quite an old feature
[02:14] marclaporte but the LeftColBug is long gone
[02:15] mose I'm so obsolete
[02:19] marclaporte :-)
[02:24] marclaporte amette: http://nextdev.tiki.org/tiki-check.php
[02:27] marclaporte (not bad) :-)
[02:28] amette WTF?!?
[02:28] amette yeah, that's an easter egg I deliberately built in
[02:28] marclaporte that is trunk
[02:28] amette WTF?!?!
[02:29] amette I'm stumped....
[02:29] marclaporte huh?
[02:29] amette ah, after reload it works
[02:29] amette LOL
[02:29] marclaporte I don't see what you are seeing?  What are you talking about?
[02:29] amette I just saw a bunch of weird characters :D
[02:29] marclaporte hehe
[02:30] amette probably the http authentication interfered with my browser *G*
[02:30] marclaporte yup
[02:30] amette yeah, now I like it, too :)
[02:31] amette ah, nice, I start to like the check considering the (non)-writeable directories, too
[02:31] marclaporte yes, it already caught a problem :-)
[02:31] amette yup :)
[02:33] amette the upload_tmp_dir check is really just an educated guess if it is dangerous - if it is not definitely dangerous, we tell the user to check it manually
[02:33] amette I don't know how good that is, but I just copied it over
[02:33] amette at least better than nothing
[02:33] amette so I put info as a state there, if it is not checkable
[02:34] amette it will never become good/green though
[02:37] * Jyhem_laptop really likes http://nextdev.tiki.org/tiki-check.php
[02:37] amette :)
[02:38] Jyhem_laptop I think some other LGPL open-source web apps will integrate some version of it :)
[02:39] amette that would be quite an accolade :)
[02:39] marclaporte for sure!  (or GPL since they can include as a lib)
[02:40] amette yeah, it's freely available for all of them
[02:43] marclaporte I wish Tiki Check had existed many years ago :-)
[02:43] * amette too
[02:44] amette I can see myself using it to set up a server much more quickly before running into issues while configuring Tiki.
[02:48] marclaporte so how should we promote it in Tiki?
[02:48] marclaporte Links in tiki-admin.php?  as part of the main admin menu?
[02:50] amette we could put it into "Crosslinks to other features" :P
[02:50] amette sorry, but that just crossed my mind - I think it's one of the things that has to go - does anyone use it productively?
[02:51] amette A link in the Admin menu might be a good idea as now there are also things that check for fitness of your setup while running Tiki already.
[02:52] amette I have actually been thinking about this while moving over features from tiki-admin_security.php and tiki-admin_system.php....
[02:53] amette ... maybe in the long run it might be feasible to create even a dedicated admin panel for things like these?
[02:54] amette Admin->General has the version check, perhaps put a link there to "Check if your Tiki can work properly"?
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[03:18] Jyhem We already have Admin → Security Admin and Admin → Cache/Sys Admin
[03:19] Jyhem So it could be a direct link from Admin also
[03:19] Jyhem then you do't need to have an icon :)
[03:20] * Jyhem is truggling agains codemirror
[03:20] Jyhem s/struggling
[03:21] Jyhem In  http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=PluginRemarksbox&page_ref_id=3461 I just can''t add the missing remarksboxes below, because it auto-selects the above plugin instead of creating a new one  :-(
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[03:28] Jyhem thank god for "toggle highlighter"
[03:29] amette yeah, sadly it is sometimes necessary :-|
[03:34] marclaporte Admin->General has the version check, perhaps put a link there to "Check if your Tiki can work properly"?v
[03:34] marclaporte ^^^^^^^^^^  +1 to that idea!
[03:36] marclaporte Jyhem: that is the kind of bug report that Tiki Screencast will be good for. I know what you mean because I have seen this before, but Robert may not know about it...
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[03:44] Jyhem marclaporte: if I set "Protect all sessions with HTTPS", can I still have anonymous access in http ?
[03:45] Jyhem Usually, there is no reason for anonymous to be in https, since anonymous only accesses public information by definition
[03:57] marclaporte Jyhem: no
[04:01] amette a good reason for anonymous to access a web site by HTTPS is that she doesn't want to disclose which information exactly she accesses
[04:02] amette e.g. my employer should not know that I access WikiPedia information about a serious desease, my employer only knows that I go to WikiPedia
[04:03] * amette making assumptions about employers and implications, but you get the idea
[04:03] amette disease even
[04:04] Jyhem Yes, but that only means that people who want to use https must have it available.
[04:04] amette every browser has it available?!
[04:05] Jyhem My use case is a public website with some protected sections. So the logged in people don't want the data to filter out. The rest is totally public and should benefit from caching
[04:06] amette caching doesn't work with https?
[04:07] Jyhem I believe https somewhat is an indication that copies should not be kept in every proxy around the internet. Or local cahes.
[04:07] amette let them be kept whereever... they are encrypted.
[04:08] amette ah, I see... you mean your proxy servers don't cache it then?!
[04:09] Jyhem They are not. The communication is encrypted. With symetric keys which expire fast and keep changing.
[04:09] Jyhem but the data itself is just transferred
[04:10] amette I think it would be a smart move of proxy servers not to cache
[04:10] amette as the key is different for each user
[04:10] Jyhem the proxy servers would need to achieve a man-in-the-middle attack to cache the unencrypted data
[04:10] amette so no content is ever the same
[04:10] amette they could cache the encrypted, but it would be quite useless
[04:10] amette only a reload from the same session/browser would hit the cache
[04:11] Jyhem the encrypted is useless because it's a two-person encryption, constantly renegociated
[04:11] amette the encryption isn't useless, but the prox is
[04:11] Jyhem worse: reload from the same session/browser time out anyway
[04:12] Jyhem I meant"the encrypted data is useless", not "the encryption is useless"
[04:12] amette yeah
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[17:39] ionhead hey, someone here who can help me with a problem with smarty?
[17:41] ionhead in an old tiki i displayed the name of the current user with eval and $user
[17:42] ionhead but in 9.1 i get only invalid parameter
[17:46] lindonb not that familiar with this, but does PluginSmarty work?
[17:47] ionhead i think so, button do work fine
[17:47] lindonb and it can be used to display variables?
[17:47] ionhead no, that seems to be the problem
[17:48] ionhead in the older version i used it works without problems
[17:48] Jyhem_laptop in a wiki page? Have you tried {{user}} ?
[17:48] ionhead no -_-
[17:49] ionhead dose not work with {{user}}
[17:49] ionhead it displays {{user}}
[17:51] ionhead or did u meant in the smarty statement ?
[17:53] Jyhem_laptop No, I just checked. This actually requires the feature:
[17:53] Jyhem_laptop Wiki argument variables (found in textarea)
[17:54] marclaporte ionhead: how old was your previous Tiki install?
[17:54] ionhead verry old :)
[17:54] ionhead 5.4
[17:55] marclaporte not that bad
[17:55] marclaporte Maybe {$prefs.user} will work
[17:56] marclaporte You want to display in wiki text or template?
[17:56] ionhead in a wiki text
[17:56] Jyhem_laptop {$prefs.user} would be in smarty, yes? {{user}} was meant in wiki syntax
[17:57] ionhead yes
[17:58] ionhead $prefs.user did not work, either
[18:00] Jyhem_laptop did you find feature_wiki_argvariable in tiki-admin.php?page=textarea ?
[18:00] Jyhem_laptop "Wiki argument variables"
[18:01] ionhead no, i'm still searching for it
[18:03] ionhead but i can't find it -_-
[18:03] Jyhem_laptop tiki-admin.php?page=textarea&highlight=feature_wiki_argvariable
[18:03] ionhead ok, got it
[18:03] Jyhem_laptop I can see it in tiki 6. I have no tiki 5
[18:04] Jyhem_laptop good
[18:04] ionhead i had to display experimental features
[18:05] Jyhem_laptop experimental? That has been present for ages
[18:05] ionhead ok, {{user}} works now
[18:06] ionhead hmm, stange
[18:06] ionhead i'm on 9.1 at the moment
[18:06] Jyhem_laptop I start most of my pages with -={{page}}=-
[18:06] ionhead but i had to check the experimental checkbox to see the option
[18:09] ionhead thank you very much
[18:10] Jyhem_laptop no prob
[18:11] ionhead another more general question
[18:12] ionhead can i do the upgrade directly form 5.4 to 9.1?
[18:12] ionhead or would it be better to upgrade first to all major releases between?
[18:15] marclaporte you can do direct
[18:15] ionhead ok, thx
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[18:32] arildb I must say I liked the old IRC "New Commit" reporting much better. Then it was possible to see what the commit was about without having to open the link in the browser. Nice with the browser link too, though.
[18:34] lindonb +1
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[19:10] JayW Hello..  is there someone who can take a quick look at my registration page and tell me why it's doing what it's doing?  http://my.absa.org/tiki-register.php   Q: Why is it giving me an error right off the bat before I register?
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[19:22] marclaporte JayW: I can confirm that it's not supposed to be like that
[19:23] JayW thanks.. that's at least good to know..   I've had other people tell me that when they go to set up another user/password (because we're testing the system) this page auto-fills with their previous information and submits the form automatically..
[19:23] JayW I figured it was an MS Explorer thing (which I don't have.. because I'm on a Mac)
[19:24] JayW I was wondering if it was an ajax thing (not knowing much about ajax)
[19:25] marclaporte you could try to deactivate AJAX stuff in the admin panel
[19:25] marclaporte search for jquery or AJAX and deactivate stuff that looks like it could be it
[19:26] JayW I'll give it a try..
[19:26] marclaporte There have some fixes recently there but I don't if it solve it
[19:27] marclaporte You could try a pre 9.2: http://dev.tiki.org/Daily+Build
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[19:30] JayW turned ajax off..  problem is still there..  can you think of anything else that would make tiki auto-submit a form?
[19:31] marclaporte JayW:  The anti-bot is also busted
[19:31] JayW yeah.. that's my next task!   I never should have upgraded to 9.1!
[19:31] marclaporte Try http://doc.tiki.org/Server+Check to see if your server has GD/ImageMagick
[19:31] marclaporte All this was working before?  In which version?
[19:32] JayW 9.0
[19:33] marclaporte oh
[19:33] marclaporte that is surprising
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[19:33] JayW yeah..
[19:33] marclaporte woah, a commit from mose!!
[19:36] marclaporte Guest80319:  that was a long long time ago, no?
[19:36] Guest80319 marclaporte: My master told me to not respond.
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[19:37] changi I love KGB
[19:37] changi "My master" :)
[19:37] marclaporte hahahahha
[19:38] marclaporte JayW: I predict 9.2 will solve half the problems you are experiencing
[19:38] JayW and when is it out?
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[19:39] marclaporte There is no set date for minor releases. It's as needed and according to people that volunteer to do it :-)
[19:40] marclaporte But you can grab 9.2 daily snapshot here: http://dev.tiki.org/Daily+Build
[19:40] marclaporte changi: should we worry about http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk%20PHP5.4%20Compatibility/violations/ ?
[19:40] JayW yeah..  I might just go back to 9.0..   I HAVE to get this working for the client tomorrow!
[19:42] marclaporte You do consulting?  What kind?
[19:44] JayW I design and maintain websites..  unfortunately i'm not much of a programmer.. just an HTML hack.. :-)
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[19:56] JayW tiki-check.php was helpful.. I might be playing with my php.ini file in the near future..  but it says I have GD.. so. captcha should be working.. :-(
[19:57] marclaporte If not already done, make sure to be listed at http://info.tiki.org/Consultants
[19:58] JayW Thanks.. I will once I feel I know tiki a bit better.. :-)  by the end of this project maybe..
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[20:19] changi marclaporte: don't think we have to
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[20:26] changi marclaporte: do we have enough commit to release a 9.2  ?
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[20:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 43201 to 43205
[20:32] Tiki|bot New Commit:  changi67 committed r43222 to the Tiki SVN, changing 2 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43222
[20:35] marclaporte changi:  I would let amette backport tiki-check.php and templates/tiki-check.php first
[20:38] changi marclaporte: ok
[20:38] marclaporte But yes, we have enough commits. Release early and often!
[20:52] marclaporte changi: what do you think of http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk%20PHP5.4%20Compatibility/violations/ ?
[21:02] changi marclaporte: don't think it will be a problem
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[21:04] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki PSR Checkstyle - see http://qa.tiki.org/job/TikiTrunk_PSR_Compliant
[21:05] Jyhem hey guys!
[21:06] Jyhem In case anyone wonders, the complete checkout of tiki is : 37G     tikiwiki/ :-)
[21:06] marclaporte polom Jyhem
[21:07] Tiki|bot New Commit:  changi67 committed r43223 to the Tiki SVN, changing 7 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43223
[21:07] marclaporte and compressed?
[21:09] changi jyhem: what's the goal
[21:09] Jyhem what would be the point ?
[21:09] Jyhem changi: newly installed servers have so much room, the first couple days :-)
[21:09] changi Jyhem: lol
[21:09] Jyhem so i was curious
[21:10] marclaporte Here is another goal for you: http://meta.ohloh.net/2012/09/a-lucky-break/
[21:11] Jyhem At first, I just needed a local copy of svn on the server, to get tiki-check on my production, to see what more needs to be tuned. And then it got out of hand :)
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[21:14] Jyhem marclaporte: nice :)
[21:15] marclaporte Surely someone has 40 gigs available for this :-)
[21:15] Jyhem Yes… Backups. Are you confident that nothing more needs to be done on the tiki servers backup front ? I read changi and ohertel's emails. They really don't need any help :)
[21:17] changi marclaporte: i have 2 copy of the tikiwiki repository (full history)
[21:18] changi marclaporte: pascal and jonny: have another one
[21:18] changi :)
[21:22] changi marclaporte: shoule i implement KGB ? or tiki bot is enough ?
[21:22] changi s/shoule/should/
[21:26] marclaporte Jyhem: the rest of data at SourceForge?
[21:26] marclaporte Jyhem: all the other sites
[21:29] marclaporte http://tiki.org/Domains
[21:30] Jyhem marclaporte: wait! This is not *my* server we are talking about. :-(
[21:31] changi Jyhem: oh, he left
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[21:34] Jyhem strange. anyway, gotta eat: the microwave is calling :)
[21:34] changi marclaporte: what do you think of using a specific tool to handle bugs like redmine ?
[21:36] marclaporte I think we don't have a tool problem
[21:37] changi ok, was just a proposition
[21:38] marclaporte The first thing we need is people to do triage
[21:39] marclaporte There are two on this list: http://tiki.org/Wishlist+Team
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[21:39] marclaporte AFAIK, they are not monitoring the bug reports
[21:40] marclaporte Once we have volunteers who intend to triage/monitor the wishes, we can have a discussion about how to do this
[21:41] marclaporte The bug reports will be just as ignored in redmine :-)
[21:43] changi you're right, but maybe people would be more volunteers with a tool, and from outside, it will show that we are more structured
[21:45] marclaporte It is a big job to change systems.  Data migration, etc.
[21:49] changi the first step is to have a Ldap with user.
[21:49] changi i've tested ClearOS, but ldap is a little to poor, i propose to user phpldapadmin!
[21:50] changi s/to/too
[21:53] Tiki|bot New Commit:  sylvieg committed r43224 to the Tiki SVN, changing 6 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43224
[21:59] changi marclaporte: need to go, see you
[22:03] marclaporte changi: 1 more thing
[22:03] marclaporte Tiki10 bug tracker will have a killer feature: http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast
[22:05] marclaporte but indeed, once we have LDAP, new possibilities will emerge
[22:18] fabricius marclaporte: what I read about LDAP?
[22:19] fabricius Tiki as LDAP server?
[22:19] fabricius LDAP built in Tiki natively?
[22:19] fabricius missunderstood?
[22:20] fabricius afk brb
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[22:45] fabricius back
[22:52] sylvieg what do we need to do now when addign a new perms in installer schema . I thought user_permissions was not used any more?
[22:52] sylvieg fabricius no tiki has no ldap server
[22:53] sylvieg it communicates only to a ldap server with a couple of formats...
[22:59] fabricius sylvieg: sure, but I was just stumbling over that what Marc mentioned: "but indeed, once we have LDAP, new possibilities will emerge"
[23:00] fabricius I was kind of not-believing, but hoping the unhopable ;-)
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[23:01] fabricius Ja ei der Jyhem ... wie geht's? Comment ça va?
[23:01] fabricius Jyhem_laptop
[23:02] Jyhem_laptop s'geht so… My laptop just froze and I can't figure out why
[23:02] Jyhem_laptop did you solve the encoding issue the other night ?
[23:04] fabricius no, nearly but slightly misse is still no strike
[23:04] fabricius missed
[23:05] fabricius I am fighting with the backup and reimport
[23:05] fabricius the problem is that they have 130 MB of files in the table_files
[23:06] fabricius I can get them out, but whatsoever I try, the last import makes a double entry error
[23:06] Jyhem_laptop Ohh, is that the same project as the DROP table issue ?
[23:06] fabricius I do not want to swicth to directory in their original installation
[23:06] fabricius YES!
[23:07] fabricius it is awful
[23:07] fabricius and in the meantime somehow magically the original database (they say) is corrupt ... missconfigured in one or two points .... but nobody known did any changes
[23:08] fabricius just misterious
[23:08] fabricius all the time I had no access, so I do not know what they did and it seems that the original backups somehow are gone or deleted
[23:08] Jyhem_laptop Yes, nobody ever did anything.
[23:09] fabricius so I now desperately try to get an early version, a dump with a filefree database and a filestructure outside the tikiroot and zip that
[23:09] fabricius a clean working base backe up and untouche in the then original
[23:10] fabricius want to workout from there
[23:11] Jyhem_laptop Hmmm, classic example of so called "security" which is just setting pit traps where legitimate people need to walk :-( And when nobody can get any work done, they kind of assume that they are "safe".
[23:11] fabricius then I can take many dumps of that i want and try upgrades and recodings and whatsoever until we have an entity free version with complete content
[23:12] Jyhem_laptop So you rebuild their system at home ?
[23:12] fabricius I rebuild it on their server
[23:13] fabricius but three days I had my son with me, so no work all day, just a bit in the late evening
[23:14] fabricius and more different projects there
[23:14] fabricius but I think, they are in a hurry now ... free tomorrow, so I hope, I can help
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