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ametteyup, they are very nice, too [00:00]
marclaporteI like the clocks!
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ametteme too
actually no - it sends me to /Development ?!
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fabriciushehe [00:02]
amettebut I really want to see System::Clocks [00:02]
fabriciususe: http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=System::Clocks [00:02]
ametteaaaaaah
dirty little hack *G*
[00:03]
fabricius{include page="System::Clocks" start="!Start-Berlin-London-UTC-Montreal" stop="!End-Berlin-London-UTC-Montreal"} [00:03]
amettethe stop can be seen on the other page?! [00:04]
fabriciusshould not
checking
ahhhh
damned
[00:04]
amette:) [00:05]
fabriciusthat seems to be a bug
see here: {include page="tagcloud" start="!Start" stop="!End"} http://wikiforyou.eu
no !End shown on the page which includes!
to show the stopmark makes no sense atall
[00:06]
ametteyup... maybe a missing newline or such? I mean: it works on your site.. [00:07]
fabriciusyes, but mine is a pre-10
maybe nees a fix for 9er branch
[00:08]
ametteah, possible [00:09]
fabriciusI think, I remember, itworke in 9 before
sorry, my "d" hangs on the keyboard ... it seems frequently to be reluctand to type all the time
[00:09]
ametteI know these problems - too much tobacco fell into your keyboard and now it jams it ;)
but just take it out, clean it and put it back in
[00:11]
fabriciusI tell you what I usually o: I wait until it rie out and then I type harer until it's crushe into ust [00:13]
amettelol
amette had to laugh about the missing 'd's
wait a bit longer and it will destroy the mechanism underneath the key - not a good option
[00:13]
fabriciusoh opps my " " hanged again [00:14]
amette*G* [00:14]
fabriciushah I`ve got one! [00:14]
amettepress the key down, grab it at the upper edge and pull gently, it will come off - takes a bit of courage at first, but basically it's quite harmless [00:14]
fabriciusyou see, it's alrea y rying out [00:15]
amettehehe [00:15]
fabriciusslowly it seems [00:15]
ametteor blow into your keyboard - that's the coward's option ;) [00:15]
fabriciusmaybe I should start to hammer, to check if it's rie enough
d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d dddddddddddddd d dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd ahhhh worrrks!!
[00:16]
amettetake a hammer for it to make sure [00:16]
fabriciusyes, that is one of the advantages of laptops against the new tabs ... you at least can take a hammer, if the keyboard hangs ... try that on a tab or on a smartphone [00:18]
ametteno problem, it'll create a nice spider web on the display ;) [00:19]
fabriciussure and you need not to download an app for that ... saves storage and performance ... good idea though
didn't think so smart first hand
but that brings me to a general idea:
since my Android is broken and I use my old standart mobile phone since a few month, I could just paint some apps on it
saves even more storage and performance
and I nee not to buy a new smartphone
[00:20]
amettewicked idea!
As soon as my phone breaks I'll get a piece of wood and paint my apps on it!
[00:23]
fabriciusgrrmbl ... still have to type hard enough to crush the dirt under the "d" [00:23]
ametteEspecially the display readability in bright sunlight will be amazing!!
honestly - do youself a favour and try to clean it
[00:23]
fabriciusamette yes ... we could make a website out of that [00:24]
amettelet's bring that to kickstarter! We'll be millionaires in no time! [00:24]
arildbI am unable to apply profiles in the latest SVN pre9.2 version. Anybody else with the same problem? [00:25]
fabriciusamette what do you think, wouldn't it be an idea just to try out to simply paint the next website and send it as screenshot or so? saves plenty of coding time [00:25]
ametteyeah, absolutely, paint it and send by mail! That also fixes all the rendering problems with different browsers!
snail mail that is - e-mail again only creates new problems
arildb: nope, not had that problem - can you elaborate?
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fabriciusarildb sorry, I simply didn't try that ... not worked with profiles for a while, whilst I have enough ideas, where I want to use again in future ... maybe I'd check when I get some time (not now, as I develop new business ideas with amette) [00:27]
arildbJust installed a fresh SVN pre9.2 version. Activated WYSIWYG. When the editor opens, it prompt to install the profile: : WYSIWYG_6x. Attempting to apply this fails. Seems unable to reach the profile server. However, I cann reach it via the browser: http://profiles.tiki.org/profiles [00:30]
amettehehe
hmmm.... what error message?
[00:30]
arildbno error message (as far as I see) [00:31]
fabriciusarildb did you try to apply with another browser? sometimes some browser is reluctant to go ahead with certain stuff (mostly Chrome) [00:31]
amettehmmm, no idea.. sorry [00:31]
arildbtried FF. wil try other browsers [00:32]
fabriciusfor ex, sometimes I cannot upload files to Tiki with Chrome, but with Firefox [00:32]
amettechrome really pisses me off recently... although I use it as my default browser and mainly really do love it - it does have some weird issues on some pages [00:32]
fabriciusI really need an autorecycle testing website
some cron svn
autonulling the database everyday
could go there and quickly check applying profile for 9.x on a new babyface fresh installation
[00:33]
amettewell, if you have shell access that's really not tough to set up [00:34]
fabriciusI have
just to lazy to figure out
[00:34]
amette;) [00:35]
fabriciusbut maybe I should really do soon [00:35]
amettenew challenges are the best way to learn [00:35]
arildbsame effect in all browsers
all browsers = Chrome & Opera
[00:36]
amettehang on, I have a 9.x checkout... let me just install a database, then I'll try here [00:38]
arildbhttp://profiles.tiki.org status seems to indicate a down state. However, (I can reach it via my browser). [00:39]
amettedoes your server have some firewalling? [00:39]
fabriciusfabricius goes for a fag [00:41]
amettehope you didn't roll it over your keyboard ;) [00:42]
fabriciusahhh and plugs the laptop to the powerline (5%) [00:42]
arildbI am running on localhost and port 80 is open. Does the profiles server use a special port? [00:42]
amettenope, it's all via http afaik [00:43]
marclaportearildb: http://bluehost.tiki.org/simplescripts/tiki-admin.php?page=profiles also can't connect [00:43]
arildbwhich Tiki version runs on bluehost? [00:44]
marclaporteIn the early days of profiles, this happened more, but I guess there are still some cases of issues [00:44]
ametteyeah, I can't get a list of profiles either [00:46]
fabriciushmm maybe setting up a simple test-profile, that changes just one single preference, so it could savely be tried on a running site?
just an idea
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marclaportefabricius: in my case, it's not even getting the list of profiles [00:49]
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arildbcan it be a server problem? I am running 9.2 from SVN. Is anybody else running SVN 9.2? [00:52]
marclaportetry from the command line wget http://profiles.tiki.org/profiles [00:55]
fabriciusarildb: you mean pre-9.2? hmmm yes, I should have at least one of these
checking
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arildbmarclaporte: wget is not a windows command. So, it didn't work [00:58]
marclaporteok, well, something similar
see if the web server can access that URL
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arildbyes, I can reach it using the browser [01:02]
marclaportebut your Tiki can't list them? [01:04]
arildbthat's correct [01:06]
fabriciusmy Tiki pre-10 can't list aswell
maybe not connected?
arrg
I have an old 8.1 running
cannot list there aswell
[01:11]
arildbsounds like a server problem [01:14]
fabriciussounds like a problm with profiles.t.o [01:15]
moseheya marc (and everybody) [01:15]
fabriciusuhhh my "e" is hanging ... maybe hammered too hard
polom mose
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mosehola fabricius [01:15]
fabriciusa question I have related to profiles since ages ...
if I want to use one or a few profiles in a customers context ...
and for whatever reason this profile would have to be not public ...
is there a way to use a profiles repository, that is not public, but "secure" with a login / group permissions?
[01:22]
JyhemFor the UI oriented devs: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/09/26/useful-javascript-libraries-jquery-plugins/ [01:31]
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marclaportefabricius: maybe with tokens?
nice to see you mose!
arildb: I suggest you ping lphuberdeau, sylvie or jonnyb about the profiles not connecting
...
For the record, Amit909 was asking me about MathJax, so I made this: http://doc.tiki.org/MathJax
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arildbI am going to bed soon. Will check again later. [01:48]
amettebrace for commit [01:53]
marclaportemose: this may be something interesting for you: https://doc.tiki.org/Server+Check [01:54]
amettenow it got really messy...
... I'm dreading the cleanup meanwhile.
but phase 1 of tiki-check.php is finished now! :)
\o
o//
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marclaportemose: more for PHP than Ruby, but... [01:55]
ametteo/ [01:55]
marclaporteCongrats Amette! [01:55]
amettecheers mate :) [01:55]
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ametteyes, it loads - forever....
... then wsod.
[02:11]
mosewow it's still there ? [02:13]
marclaportewhat could be wrong? http://tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=major+use+cases
mose: what is still there?
[02:13]
mosethe white page of death [02:13]
marclaportehahahahah
oh yeah
[02:14]
mosequite an old feature [02:14]
marclaportebut the LeftColBug is long gone [02:14]
moseI'm so obsolete [02:15]
marclaporte:-) [02:19]
amette: http://nextdev.tiki.org/tiki-check.php
[02:24]
ametteWTF?!?
yeah, that's an easter egg I deliberately built in
[02:28]
marclaportethat is trunk [02:28]
ametteWTF?!?!
I'm stumped....
[02:28]
marclaportehuh? [02:29]
ametteah, after reload it works
LOL
[02:29]
marclaporteI don't see what you are seeing? What are you talking about? [02:29]
ametteI just saw a bunch of weird characters :D [02:29]
marclaportehehe [02:29]
ametteprobably the http authentication interfered with my browser *G* [02:30]
marclaporteyup [02:30]
ametteyeah, now I like it, too :)
ah, nice, I start to like the check considering the (non)-writeable directories, too
[02:30]
marclaporteyes, it already caught a problem :-) [02:31]
ametteyup :)
the upload_tmp_dir check is really just an educated guess if it is dangerous - if it is not definitely dangerous, we tell the user to check it manually
I don't know how good that is, but I just copied it over
at least better than nothing
so I put info as a state there, if it is not checkable
it will never become good/green though
[02:31]
Jyhem_laptopJyhem_laptop really likes http://nextdev.tiki.org/tiki-check.php [02:37]
amette:) [02:37]
Jyhem_laptopI think some other LGPL open-source web apps will integrate some version of it :) [02:38]
amettethat would be quite an accolade :) [02:39]
marclaportefor sure! (or GPL since they can include as a lib) [02:39]
ametteyeah, it's freely available for all of them [02:40]
marclaporteI wish Tiki Check had existed many years ago :-) [02:43]
ametteamette too
I can see myself using it to set up a server much more quickly before running into issues while configuring Tiki.
[02:43]
marclaporteso how should we promote it in Tiki?
[02:48]
amettewe could put it into "Crosslinks to other features" :P
sorry, but that just crossed my mind - I think it's one of the things that has to go - does anyone use it productively?
A link in the Admin menu might be a good idea as now there are also things that check for fitness of your setup while running Tiki already.
... maybe in the long run it might be feasible to create even a dedicated admin panel for things like these?
Admin->General has the version check, perhaps put a link there to "Check if your Tiki can work properly"?
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So it could be a direct link from Admin also
then you do't need to have an icon :)
Jyhem is truggling agains codemirror
s/struggling
In http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=PluginRemarksbox&page_ref_id=3461 I just can''t add the missing remarksboxes below, because it auto-selects the above plugin instead of creating a new one :-(
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Jyhemthank god for "toggle highlighter" [03:28]
ametteyeah, sadly it is sometimes necessary :-| [03:29]
marclaporteAdmin->General has the version check, perhaps put a link there to "Check if your Tiki can work properly"?v
^^^^^^^^^^ +1 to that idea!
Jyhem: that is the kind of bug report that Tiki Screencast will be good for. I know what you mean because I have seen this before, but Robert may not know about it...
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Jyhemmarclaporte: if I set "Protect all sessions with HTTPS", can I still have anonymous access in http ?
Usually, there is no reason for anonymous to be in https, since anonymous only accesses public information by definition
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marclaporteJyhem: no [03:57]
amettea good reason for anonymous to access a web site by HTTPS is that she doesn't want to disclose which information exactly she accesses
e.g. my employer should not know that I access WikiPedia information about a serious desease, my employer only knows that I go to WikiPedia
amette making assumptions about employers and implications, but you get the idea
disease even
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JyhemYes, but that only means that people who want to use https must have it available. [04:04]
ametteevery browser has it available?! [04:04]
JyhemMy use case is a public website with some protected sections. So the logged in people don't want the data to filter out. The rest is totally public and should benefit from caching [04:05]
amettecaching doesn't work with https? [04:06]
JyhemI believe https somewhat is an indication that copies should not be kept in every proxy around the internet. Or local cahes. [04:07]
amettelet them be kept whereever... they are encrypted.
ah, I see... you mean your proxy servers don't cache it then?!
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JyhemThey are not. The communication is encrypted. With symetric keys which expire fast and keep changing.
but the data itself is just transferred
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ametteI think it would be a smart move of proxy servers not to cache
as the key is different for each user
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Jyhemthe proxy servers would need to achieve a man-in-the-middle attack to cache the unencrypted data [04:10]
ametteso no content is ever the same
they could cache the encrypted, but it would be quite useless
only a reload from the same session/browser would hit the cache
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Jyhemthe encrypted is useless because it's a two-person encryption, constantly renegociated [04:11]
amettethe encryption isn't useless, but the prox is [04:11]
Jyhemworse: reload from the same session/browser time out anyway
I meant"the encrypted data is useless", not "the encryption is useless"
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ametteyeah [04:12]
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hey, someone here who can help me with a problem with smarty?
in an old tiki i displayed the name of the current user with eval and $user but in 9.1 i get only invalid parameter [17:38] lindonbnot that familiar with this, but does PluginSmarty work? [17:46] ionheadi think so, button do work fine [17:47] lindonband it can be used to display variables? [17:47] ionheadno, that seems to be the problem in the older version i used it works without problems [17:47] Jyhem_laptopin a wiki page? Have you tried {{user}} ? [17:48] ionheadno -_- dose not work with {{user}} it displays {{user}} or did u meant in the smarty statement ? [17:48] Jyhem_laptopNo, I just checked. This actually requires the feature: Wiki argument variables (found in textarea) [17:53] marclaporteionhead: how old was your previous Tiki install? [17:54] ionheadverry old :) 5.4 [17:54] marclaportenot that bad Maybe {$prefs.user} will work
You want to display in wiki text or template?
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ionheadin a wiki text [17:56]
Jyhem_laptop{$prefs.user} would be in smarty, yes? {{user}} was meant in wiki syntax [17:56] ionheadyes$prefs.user did not work, either
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Jyhem_laptopdid you find feature_wiki_argvariable in tiki-admin.php?page=textarea ?
"Wiki argument variables"
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ionheadno, i'm still searching for it
but i can't find it -_-
[18:01]
ionheadok, got it [18:03]
Jyhem_laptopI can see it in tiki 6. I have no tiki 5
good
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ionheadi had to display experimental features [18:04]
Jyhem_laptopexperimental? That has been present for ages [18:05]
ionheadok, {{user}} works now
hmm, stange
i'm on 9.1 at the moment
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Jyhem_laptopI start most of my pages with -={{page}}=- [18:06]
ionheadbut i had to check the experimental checkbox to see the option
thank you very much
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Jyhem_laptopno prob [18:10]
ionheadanother more general question
can i do the upgrade directly form 5.4 to 9.1?
or would it be better to upgrade first to all major releases between?
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marclaporteyou can do direct [18:15]
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arildbI must say I liked the old IRC "New Commit" reporting much better. Then it was possible to see what the commit was about without having to open the link in the browser. Nice with the browser link too, though. [18:32]
lindonb+1 [18:34]
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Hello.. is there someone who can take a quick look at my registration page and tell me why it's doing what it's doing? http://my.absa.org/tiki-register.php Q: Why is it giving me an error right off the bat before I register?
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marclaporteJayW: I can confirm that it's not supposed to be like that [19:22]
JayWthanks.. that's at least good to know.. I've had other people tell me that when they go to set up another user/password (because we're testing the system) this page auto-fills with their previous information and submits the form automatically..
I figured it was an MS Explorer thing (which I don't have.. because I'm on a Mac)
I was wondering if it was an ajax thing (not knowing much about ajax)
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marclaporteyou could try to deactivate AJAX stuff in the admin panel
search for jquery or AJAX and deactivate stuff that looks like it could be it
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JayWI'll give it a try.. [19:26]
marclaporteThere have some fixes recently there but I don't if it solve it
You could try a pre 9.2: http://dev.tiki.org/Daily+Build
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JayWturned ajax off.. problem is still there.. can you think of anything else that would make tiki auto-submit a form? [19:30]
marclaporteJayW: The anti-bot is also busted [19:31]
JayWyeah.. that's my next task! I never should have upgraded to 9.1! [19:31]
marclaporteTry http://doc.tiki.org/Server+Check to see if your server has GD/ImageMagick
All this was working before? In which version?
[19:31]
JayW9.0 [19:32]
marclaporteoh
that is surprising
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Guest80319tikiwiki 03mose r4299 10trunk/ 10_jscalendar/lang/calendar-fr-utf8.js 10_jscalendar/lang/calendar-fr.js
tikiwiki fixed the lang file for jscalendar fr
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JayWyeah.. [19:33]
marclaportewoah, a commit from mose!!
Guest80319: that was a long long time ago, no?
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Guest80319marclaporte: My master told me to not respond.
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changiI love KGB
"My master" :)
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marclaportehahahahha
JayW: I predict 9.2 will solve half the problems you are experiencing
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JayWand when is it out? [19:38]
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marclaporteThere is no set date for minor releases. It's as needed and according to people that volunteer to do it :-)
But you can grab 9.2 daily snapshot here: http://dev.tiki.org/Daily+Build
changi: should we worry about http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk%20PHP5.4%20Compatibility/violations/ ?
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JayWyeah.. I might just go back to 9.0.. I HAVE to get this working for the client tomorrow! [19:40]
marclaporteYou do consulting? What kind? [19:42]
JayWI design and maintain websites.. unfortunately i'm not much of a programmer.. just an HTML hack.. :-) [19:44]
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JayWtiki-check.php was helpful.. I might be playing with my php.ini file in the near future.. but it says I have GD.. so. captcha should be working.. :-( [19:56]
marclaporteIf not already done, make sure to be listed at http://info.tiki.org/Consultants [19:57]
JayWThanks.. I will once I feel I know tiki a bit better.. :-) by the end of this project maybe.. [19:58]
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changimarclaporte: don't think we have to [20:19]
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changimarclaporte: do we have enough commit to release a 9.2 ? [20:26]
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tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 43201 to 43205
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Tiki|botNew Commit: changi67 committed r43222 to the Tiki SVN, changing 2 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43222 [20:32]
marclaportechangi: I would let amette backport tiki-check.php and templates/tiki-check.php first [20:35]
changimarclaporte: ok [20:38]
marclaporteBut yes, we have enough commits. Release early and often! [20:38]
changi: what do you think of http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk%20PHP5.4%20Compatibility/violations/ ? [20:52]
changimarclaporte: don't think it will be a problem [21:02]
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tikiwiki PSR Checkstyle - see http://qa.tiki.org/job/TikiTrunk_PSR_Compliant
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Jyhemhey guys!
In case anyone wonders, the complete checkout of tiki is : 37G tikiwiki/ :-)
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marclaportepolom Jyhem [21:06]
Tiki|botNew Commit: changi67 committed r43223 to the Tiki SVN, changing 7 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43223 [21:07]
marclaporteand compressed? [21:07]
changijyhem: what's the goal [21:09]
Jyhemwhat would be the point ?
changi: newly installed servers have so much room, the first couple days :-)
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changiJyhem: lol [21:09]
Jyhemso i was curious [21:09]
marclaporteHere is another goal for you: http://meta.ohloh.net/2012/09/a-lucky-break/ [21:10]
JyhemAt first, I just needed a local copy of svn on the server, to get tiki-check on my production, to see what more needs to be tuned. And then it got out of hand :) [21:11]
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Jyhemmarclaporte: nice :) [21:14]
marclaporteSurely someone has 40 gigs available for this :-) [21:15]
JyhemYesâ€¦ Backups. Are you confident that nothing more needs to be done on the tiki servers backup front ? I read changi and ohertel's emails. They really don't need any help :) [21:15]
changimarclaporte: i have 2 copy of the tikiwiki repository (full history)
marclaporte: pascal and jonny: have another one
:)
marclaporte: shoule i implement KGB ? or tiki bot is enough ?
s/shoule/should/
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marclaporteJyhem: the rest of data at SourceForge?
Jyhem: all the other sites
http://tiki.org/Domains
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Jyhemmarclaporte: wait! This is not *my* server we are talking about. :-( [21:30]
changiJyhem: oh, he left [21:31]
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Jyhemstrange. anyway, gotta eat: the microwave is calling :) [21:34]
changimarclaporte: what do you think of using a specific tool to handle bugs like redmine ? [21:34]
marclaporteI think we don't have a tool problem [21:36]
changiok, was just a proposition [21:37]
marclaporteThe first thing we need is people to do triage
There are two on this list: http://tiki.org/Wishlist+Team
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marclaporteAFAIK, they are not monitoring the bug reports
Once we have volunteers who intend to triage/monitor the wishes, we can have a discussion about how to do this
The bug reports will be just as ignored in redmine :-)
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changiyou're right, but maybe people would be more volunteers with a tool, and from outside, it will show that we are more structured [21:43]
marclaporteIt is a big job to change systems. Data migration, etc. [21:45]
changithe first step is to have a Ldap with user.
i've tested ClearOS, but ldap is a little to poor, i propose to user phpldapadmin!
s/to/too
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Tiki|botNew Commit: sylvieg committed r43224 to the Tiki SVN, changing 6 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43224 [21:53]
changimarclaporte: need to go, see you [21:59]
marclaportechangi: 1 more thing
Tiki10 bug tracker will have a killer feature: http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast
but indeed, once we have LDAP, new possibilities will emerge
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Tiki as LDAP server?
LDAP built in Tiki natively?
missunderstood?
afk brb
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fabriciusback [22:45]
sylviegwhat do we need to do now when addign a new perms in installer schema . I thought user_permissions was not used any more?
fabricius no tiki has no ldap server
it communicates only to a ldap server with a couple of formats...
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fabriciussylvieg: sure, but I was just stumbling over that what Marc mentioned: "but indeed, once we have LDAP, new possibilities will emerge"
I was kind of not-believing, but hoping the unhopable ;-)
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fabriciusJa ei der Jyhem ... wie geht's? Comment ça va?
Jyhem_laptop
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Jyhem_laptops'geht soâ€¦ My laptop just froze and I can't figure out why
did you solve the encoding issue the other night ?
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fabriciusno, nearly but slightly misse is still no strike
missed
I am fighting with the backup and reimport
the problem is that they have 130 MB of files in the table_files
I can get them out, but whatsoever I try, the last import makes a double entry error
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Jyhem_laptopOhh, is that the same project as the DROP table issue ? [23:06]
fabriciusI do not want to swicth to directory in their original installation
YES!
it is awful
and in the meantime somehow magically the original database (they say) is corrupt ... missconfigured in one or two points .... but nobody known did any changes
just misterious
all the time I had no access, so I do not know what they did and it seems that the original backups somehow are gone or deleted
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Jyhem_laptopYes, nobody ever did anything. [23:08]
fabriciusso I now desperately try to get an early version, a dump with a filefree database and a filestructure outside the tikiroot and zip that
a clean working base backe up and untouche in the then original
want to workout from there
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Jyhem_laptopHmmm, classic example of so called "security" which is just setting pit traps where legitimate people need to walk :-( And when nobody can get any work done, they kind of assume that they are "safe". [23:11]
fabriciusthen I can take many dumps of that i want and try upgrades and recodings and whatsoever until we have an entity free version with complete content [23:11]
Jyhem_laptopSo you rebuild their system at home ? [23:12]
fabriciusI rebuild it on their server
but three days I had my son with me, so no work all day, just a bit in the late evening
and more different projects there
but I think, they are in a hurry now ... free tomorrow, so I hope, I can help
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