refizul: fabricius: I'm registered, altered stuff in dev and doc, but I completely missed the community part.
My approach to things is - let's say: different ;-) fabricius: that's absolutely ok
refizul: do you know, why humans heads are round? refizul: I guess yes - something with changing direction?
another question arises...
there is a little logo for external links at community.t.o (at least user pages)
Is it possible to change this to another one for https hyperlinks?
An optical distinction would be very helpful. fabricius: refizul: yes, that thinking can change the direction
hmmm I guess for that you need to extent some spots in some .tpl file(s)
or php files
or css?
never thought about that little piece .... you r looking carefully after usability, isn't it?
which I do like refizul: I'm used to notice little helpful stuff (and the missing of its presence) fabricius: we do need that in the community
actually we are heading on to refurbish the websites
website revamp we call it
maybe you want to join the team refizul: I think I'll not have much time for that.
My next project is the encrypted email stuff. lphuberdeau: joined #tikiwiki refizul: The account isn't permitted to edit at info.t.o, is it? I've got found a typo fabricius: oops refizul just concentrated on different work
you r right - info is not commonly permitted
which typo? refizul: German consultant site
https://info.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Berater
first paragraph/section: zuhelfen -> zu helfen
and below there: Benutzern f�rdern -> Benutzern zu f�rdern
zugestimmt. durch -> zugestimmt. Durch fabricius: I would have bet a 100 Euro, that you are German
hehe refizul: Kunden auch die Tiki -> Kunden auch, die Tiki
Gemeinschaft sich weiter zu entwickeln. -> Gemeinschaft weiter zu entwickeln. fabricius: If you want, just send me an email with what you found and I just run through refizul: that's it (for the beginning) fabricius: -> torsten@tiki.org
ah that's all
ok refizul: probably there will be more in the future fabricius: you should add yourself to the GLUG refizul: GLUG? fabricius: and stuff like this you could for example send to the german mailing list - not very active, but specifically for such stuff
German Language User Group refizul: stuff like tiki.org typos to GLUG?
ah - language
L in LUG is always Linux for me ;-) fabricius: everybody from germanspeaking countries, minorities or people who like to keep their Germanahead
hehe refizul: I've never seen a WUG fabricius: tiki.org typos to the German Linux User Group .. yeah we are famous loool
hmm *thinking*
what the f* is W? refizul: A sloppy product from a company in Redmond/USA. fabricius: ahahahhaaaaha refizul: I guess those users do not look for social contact. fabricius: I do not know ... maybe not in context to the big W refizul: Maybe they are afraid to confess the usage in public. fabricius: most of the Wusers I know, stay, because everybody has and just in case they need help,they know they could ask somebody
yes I guess that's it
I did use it for long time and I know myself how hard it was for me to change
I never have been afraid of confessing, but I wanted to change for long time
anyway, I do not want to go backwards
3and if I can make it easier for people around myself, I am glad to help ... even most people are reluctant
at least I need not waste hours and hours anymore to help 'em with the W, as everybody knows now T is on L
and if I haveto help one, I annoy him/her all the time "with Linux this would not be a problem ... with Linux that would work easily ..."
hehe kstingel1: joined #tikiwiki refizul: this alias stuff at tiki.org is a bit of confusing
itemXY is bugXY, isn't it? kstingel: joined #tikiwiki refizul: is it possible to enlarge the wiki editor, customized to a user's needs?
Full Screen Edit - I can live with that fabricius: at the bottom right corner of the editor you can catch the editors window with the mouse and enlarge it to your needs refizul: ah - there. I searched below that, at the bottom right orange block's corner fabricius: yeah mini ... micro refizul: there is a little... bug? Tamler: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: .ui-resizable-handle
bug? Tamler: hello fabricius: where again?
hi Tamler refizul: if I increase the height, use full screen, then back to normal, the height is the old one, mut the space is reserved and the little corner is where it should be. But the editor window doesn't fit exactly. Tamler: The story continues... Has anyone tried installing tiki with a non default port? refizul: s/mut/but/
of what? MySQL? Tamler: oops, yes. refizul: I guess, we have got a solution Tamler: Do tell. refizul: Section 5 - https://doc.tiki.org/Installation
is new
not the section, but the additional info is new
tell us, if this is a solution for your problem Tamler: ;port=
ok
i'll test right now lphuberdeau: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: refizul: I think, once you saved itwill be all back in place
not sure if its a bug or simply not nice to an extent
I do not see what you described refizul refizul: increase height and width of editor, press full screen button of editor, press again to return, the width keeps as changed previously, but height returns to original setting
this doen't happen at doc.t.o - but in the community section / UserPage fabricius: ah refizul: Tamler away - no feedback? fabricius: he did head off to test ... maybe needs some time refizul: well - if he doesn't come back, the new hint is correct :-) Tamler: joined #tikiwiki goj_killedByISP: joined #tikiwiki Tamler: You guys are the love children of Freddy Mercury and Robert Plant. Panty dropping and hard rockin awesome. Thank you for your help with the MySQL port/ install issue.
long and short, it worked. refizul: cool
there are some internals with mysql one cannot circumvent by php.ini manipulation sandroandrade: joined #tikiwiki refizul: but in the end, it was a syntax question only fabricius: woohoo refizul: time to party! Tamler: Hah, now i am getting elbow deep in the configuration of the site. refizul: there are a lot of options to play with Tamler: um, that could be a big understatement... refizul: at least you get something for all the money... ;-)
btw, money: has anyone heard the openoffice for money story? Tamler: hah, too true.
no? refizul: some years ago someone sold openoffice.org downloads at ebay
he claimed "only ten more available..." and stuff like that
a friend of mine was at ooo at that time and we had a very big laughing about this idea
IIRC this was not allowed by the ebay guidelines
Does there exist something like a complete tiki manual?
Maybe a local html tree or a PDF? Tamler: that would be nice. I am bouncing back and forth between the site and the online docs. refizul: is it possible to center vertically?
e.g. a table with a one line cell next to a two lines cell, can I center the one line cell vertically?
The German tiki page links to a non existing page https://tiki.org/TeamCommunity
German tiki page = de.tiki.org luciash: polom
refizul: u can if you enclose the table in {DIV(class=foo)}...{DIV} and then put .foo td:first-child {vertical-align: middle !important} in your CSS refizul: ah - ok, thx luciash
a security issue: themes.t.o switches to http immediately after login luciash: privacy issue refizul: yes
profiles does this, too. maybe all of the sites? luciash: changed on themes. try again ? refizul: the themes site looks odd now - there is a huge login
it keeps the https setting, but it is unusable without login fabricius: refizul: the de.tiki.org link "Tiki Gemeinde" links to the community website now
haha that is the mobile perspective
how that?
<- themes.t.o
luciash? whatzup? refizul: luciash changed the login behaviour fabricius: to mobile? refizul: to keep the https protocol
as a side effect this happened
fabricius: is the de.t.o not connected to the users database? fabricius: refizul: no it is not ... a historical thing, an issue we have to sort longterm
how to merge the user databases? how to merge the content?
first we have to revamp the connected websites
but a lot of work anyway
both things refizul: now theses is fine (layout and https keeping)
now themes is fine (layout and https keeping) fabricius: cool -: fabricius making some pasta refizul: de.t.o has got a 5 letters minimum username? luciash: all i did was just feature_show_stay_in_ssl_mode : enabled
pasta in 4:54am ? :-D refizul: luciash: yes, then a user can click this, that's good
luciash: maybe he's from Austria? *g* luciash: afaik he is not :)
de.t.o is local community site
no intertiki there refizul: okay, I'll see about this another time
dawn is coming up, time to go into my coffin luciash: :)
cu fabricius: hehe
nope I am not from Austria hence I know some Austrians ... btw: not from Australia aswell *g* luciash: :) fabricius: still awaik luciash?
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but I finish now!
promised
trust me luciash: :)
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Info: A Decade of Tiki! - http://info.tiki.org/article201-A-Decade-of-Tiki
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joined #tikiwiki refizul: Hello. There is a orange box on http://tiki.org/tiki-newsletters.php which starts with the text "Tiki News Releases", and there are two URLs at the end. But it is not possible to click them directly. lphuberdeau: joined #tikiwiki refizul: at suite.t.o the "Newest Blog Posts" (right side column) are dead links
The messages there are either "You are not logged in. Go to Log in Page" or "Blog not found". I guess it is not intended to log in just for reading the blog, is it? Jyhem: polom
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Hey everyone: Tiki 9.x is awesome!! lphuberdeau: good thing you realize that as the 10.x cycle is about to begin ;) marclaporte: refizul: I fixed the link to https://tiki.org/TeamCommunity Tks refizul: marclaporte: so fabricius can restore the old one on de.tiki.org marclaporte: it's a page alias so both will work -: marclaporte loves page aliases refizul: marclaporte: fabricius switched it to tiki.org main page - this is another page (alias Home) arildb_: joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: joined #tikiwiki
polom.2 Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4303 - - First form field on pages does not have focus - http://dev.tiki.org/item4303 kstingel: when using versioning, is there a way to have the same text for all versions, and update images only?
... without having multiple version selector sets show up on the page?
for example, if I have an ordered list with 7 items, 5 of which have reference images ... I have one set of version select links at the beginning of the list, then depending on the sected version, only the images shown would differ jonnyb: hi kstingel, can't see how - the version plugin (i guess you're talking about) doesn't know the difference - it just switches chunks of wiki markup about kstingel: could using {version(default)}ol items ... {if(sel4}{img src="v4"}{elseif(sel5)}{img src=v5}{/if}{version} possibly work?
pseudo example is somewhat truncated, but you get the gist jonnyb: there isn't really an {if} statement in wiki markup kstingel: aww ... why not? jonnyb: you might be able to do something like it in javascript (but i don't really understand what you're tying to achieve - just saving a bit of duplication?) kstingel: basically yes ... I can't see the point in having umpteen copies of the same data if the only difference is the images referenced in said data block jonnyb: you could write a custom smarty template - smarty has {if} :) kstingel: what should I name it? ... "smartyplugin_versions.tpl"?
or "smarty_wikiplugin_versions.tpl"? jonnyb: sorry, i really don't follow - you can call custom tpls what you want and maybe tie it into the page using the tracklist plugin but i haven't really thought it through... kstingel: just thinking that if I create a template to extend the version plugin, it makes sense to name the new template similarly to the plugin being extended
that way, other coders should know what it is for fairly easily, and could "tweak" it if bugs occur in later tiki versions :) jonnyb: oh right, you mean adding a new parameter to wikiplugin_version? i thought you were talking about patching your own tiki kstingel: I am, but ... if I patch it and it works, I share so others can benefit :)
I figure, if I find a "gap" that needs patching, someone else will have found the same gap ... they may have a better solution than the one I came up with refizul: database trouble at tiki.org? kstingel: my motives are purely selfish ... if someone has a better fix than mine, I can learn by replacing my fix with theirs :D refizul: Undefined index: smarty_security -- http://info.tiki.org/tiki-index.php marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki refizul: Tiki is unable to connect to the database kstingel: hi marc refizul: *.t.o seems to have severe problems kstingel: could they be related to the version of Tiki that is running? jonnyb: refizul: agreed - changi, you about? :) kstingel: jonnyb: thanks for your assistance ... I'm off to retrain Smarty and Tiki to play nice with versions :) jonnyb: have fun! :)
tiki.org seems ok refizul: fake ticker: the tiki code quality management team reduced bug reports by a rate of 100% in October 2012 Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: refizul: good mail to tiki dev list. Let's address one by one :-) refizul: jonnyb: no, tiki.org shows a bunch of error tables marclaporte: Community server seems overloaded. changi: help! :-) refizul: jonnyb: ah - this one without redirect still works: http://tiki.org/tiki-index.php
and this one is running, too: http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-index.php jonnyb: info.t.o seems to have it's error reporting up too high refizul: jonnyb: ack - it is not the best way to tell the bad guys what to do next jonnyb: refizul: there's nothing particularly sensitive in there, just looks messy Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki lphuberdeau: joined #tikiwiki rodrigoprimo: joined #tikiwiki lphuberdeau: joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki
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which domain? changi: doc.tiki.org
marclaporte: yes 1st time
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jonnyb: 240 megs shouldn't crash MySQL :-) changi: marclaporte: yes they failed, my firewall(door) is a big one marclaporte: hehe changi: release 9.2 ? jonnyb: i have one more little fix to add (just bounced back) lphuberdeau: joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: When site closed, site overloaded, site being upgraded via TRIM, "Tiki is unable to connect to the database" and similar should give error with HTTP 503 instead of HTTP 200 like now changi: marclaporte: it can be a problem if the hoster catch 503 errors jonnyb: committed ok, just running a merge to trunk... Caarrie|away: changi: you want to re-enable Tiki-KGB and i will kill the rss on Tiki|bot? changi: Caarrie|away: i will do that this WE, so for now you can let Tiki|bot speak : Caarrie|away: you can enable when you get a chance and when i catch it i will stop Tiki|bot KStingel_Prime: joined #tikiwiki changi: Caarrie|away: oki
anything left for 9.2 ?
can i start ? jonnyb: sorry, 1 mo tiny thing Tiki|bot: New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43276 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43276 jonnyb: actually it need more thought, so go for it changi: jonnyb: i can postpone it to tomorrow
no rush jonnyb: ok, just need to think about it a little bit (and test :) )
actually i can commit after, it's only a beta today right? changi: jonnyb: yes jonnyb: this is a minor formatting thing, can go in after
sounds like you've probably had enough of today too, so don't want to prolong it for you :) Tiki|bot: New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43277 to the Tiki SVN, changing 5 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43277 marclaporte: tomorrow is good for me too changi: as it's for a beta, i will do it know
s/know/now
marclaporte: with your permission master :) jonnyb: just did that one little commit - hope it doesn't mess anything up for you changi
(i'd tested it and hadn't seen any signs of release starting) Tiki|bot: New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43278 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43278 arildb_: joined #tikiwiki refizul: I'm a bit confused again, this time about themes. doc.t.o tells about themes that themes.t.o is "for Tiki versions prior to 2.0" jonnyb: refizul: fairly certain it's more up to date than that!
please update the doc page it (if you find out it is) refizul: it tells then: mods.tw.o "for Tiki 2.0 and newer" Tiki|bot: New Commit: changi67 committed r43280 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43280
New Commit: changi67 committed r43279 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43279 refizul: I'll do that when I understand what's going on. Right now I'm lost in a jungle. changi: ricks: 106 new commits
ricks: Copyrights updated: +1 contributor(s), +511 commit(s) Tiki|bot: New Commit: changi67 committed r43283 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43283
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New Commit: changi67 committed r43281 to the Tiki SVN, changing 49 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43281 jonnyb: changi: i'll do an announcement mail to the dev list (including these stats for ricks99) refizul: Somewhere in Tiki there is a "Profile repository". Is there something similar for themes? A "Themes repository" with an import function? changi: jonnyb: ok jonnyb: refizul: sadly not, we could do with something like that Tiki|bot: New Commit: changi67 committed r43284 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43284
New Commit: changi67 committed r43285 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43285 refizul: There is another thing about customized themes (and other customized stuff): is is possible to deploy external themes somewhere else in the file system subtree? Maybe in a new subfolder "customized/" or "local/"? sandroandrade: joined #tikiwiki changi: jonnyb: upload on sf in progress jonnyb: w00t! changi: jonnyb: done jonnyb: super, i'll go grab one - gzip for me! Tiki|bot: New Commit: changi67 made 1 file-release changes - http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki
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New Commit: changi67 made 1 file-release changes - http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki changi: jonnyb: can you do the merge ? jonnyb: will do - thanks! :) changi: need to sleedp
see ya jonnyb: nn Tiki|bot: New Commit: changi67 committed r43286 to the Tiki SVN, changing 2 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43286 refizul: A question about uploading files: where are they stored? In the database? jonnyb: in the database unless you set it to use the filesystem refizul: oh - this is optional. This is cute. And I can choose the folder. marclaporte: :-) refizul: Assuming an Tiki instance with several thousand uploaded files, which one would be more performant? Database or filesystem? I think dropping them all into one folder will decrease reading performance, won't it? lphuberdeau: filesystem ususally is a better choice refizul: filesystem makes backup strategies easier, too lphuberdeau: depends on how you see it refizul: I do not want several pieces of a database dump and I do not want one big file. Seperation of user uploads from the database is a good choice from that point of view. But I've got no idea about performance issues. lphuberdeau: in my experience, guessing about performance issues never works refizul: Maybe a binary tree below the chosen folder would be an idea for Tiki internal upload handling. lphuberdeau: I just like letting the filesystem deal with it until I have an indication it is an issue
btrees are fancy structures to maintain refizul: I've seen Mediawiki uploads with a few thousand files in one folder, and there it is a performance problem for sure. lphuberdeau: ah, I've seen tiki installs with truly massive amounts of files, and it wasn't
lots of bottlenecks were hit before filesystem was one Tiki|bot: New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43287 to the Tiki SVN, changing 55 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43287 refizul: okay, let's keep that as low level priority feature request in mind
probably SSD prices fall faster than the problem becomes larger lphuberdeau: I don't think I ever got to low priority feature requests refizul: let me add ";-)" to my suggestion Tiki|bot: New Commit: marclaporte committed r43288 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43288 marclaporte: changi: I get a blank page when searching for some terms. http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log_search/tikiwiki?search=mysql&action=search&error=0
we have latest version? http://colas.nahaboo.net/Software/IrcLogger jonnyb: nn all Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4304 - - Webmail enhancements - http://dev.tiki.org/item4304 marclaporte: refizul: do you agree with http://dev.tiki.org/item4304 ?