fabricius: refizul: some hint to "storing files in the directory"
not in the folder /files in the tiki root
create one level higher
files
refizul: I created local/ in tiki-root
fabricius: files/archiv files/batchupload files/wiki etc
path then: ../files/archiv ../files/wiki ../files/batchupload etc.
in tikiroot is NOT recommended due to security and upgrade maintenance
thats why I always make a "container" for the tikiwebsites in the server account(s) and there a "container" for the sites and inside the tikiroots
refizul: ? now I'm confused about the containers
fabricius: tikiwebsites tikiwebsites/site1 tikiwebsite/site2 tikiwebsites/site1/files tikiwebsites/site1/tikiversion
refizul: ah - ok
fabricius: tikiwebsites would be the "container" folder for all the tikiwebsites
refizul: but where to store uploads?
fabricius: and site1 would be the container for the files and the tikiroot
uploads into the filegallery you mean?
refizul: something like this, yes
fabricius: or batchupload for the batchimport to tiki?
ah
refizul: any upload not tiki intern
fabricius: hmm all uploads would be "tikiintern" ... ah you mean kind of useruploads instead of webmasterupload for theme etc.
refizul: yes, user generated content
fabricius: userupload to tiki then (with tiki as frontend / file gallery)
let's prepare the file gallery first for a SVN checkout of the actual Trunk
refizul: I want a clear distinction without mix up between the tiki tree and the external stuff
fabricius: we take "site1" which has the domain example.com - I assume a linux webserver
yes just listen for a minute ;-)
new webhost
create /tikiwebsites (it is the first site to install of a few)
then the container for site1 = example.com
create /tikiwebsites/example.com
now the folder for the SVN checkout (we have ssh access)
/tikiwebsites/example.com/SVN_100_TRUNK
now the directory for the files
/tikiwebsites/example.com/files
there for the file gallery (I take the German noun "archiv")
/tikiwebsites/example.com/files/archiv
and if we need a higher number of files, than batchupload would be handy
/tikiwebsites/example.com/files/batchupload
same for wiki, tracker, forum, podcasts
now we head on to the browser to get Tiki (this we made with shh, maybe directly with the Linux shell or the putty)
dev.tiki.org/get+code and copy the line of code for trunk
back to the shell and checkout into tikiwebsites/example.com/SVN_100_TRUNK
database credentials are written down somewhere, domain is applied to the folder /tikiwebsites/example.com/SVN_100_TRUNK ... run the installer etc. login and lock the installer
now tiki-admin.php?page=filegallery
there look for the setting for the file storage
untick database and tick directory instead
now you have to type in the path: ../files/archiv
same for batchupload (maybe scroll down or a different tab) -> ../files/batchupload
same for the other features
you should setup a ftp-user *specifically* for the folder /tikiwebsites/example.com/files/batchupload
refizul: now I see - you do a complete separation of content data and tiki code
fabricius: now you can do to things to upload your files to your tiki
yes complete separation
as recommended
refizul: that's a very good method
fabricius: sadly I have a customer right now, who did the exact opposit and I have to get the files out of a corrupted latin1 database
but that's a different story ;-)
method one:
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fabricius: STOP - forgot to create at least one file gallery in our Tiki - we do that right now and ... now want to upload three files to our Tiki
method 1 we use
in tiki to the file gallery and click on "upload file"
see a common upload dialogue and choose file from disc - optional file name, category, whatsoever is offered
next step: at the end of the dialogue find a button like "choose another file" click, choose file, optional settings, "choose another file bla bla ... at the end click on "upload file(s)"
done
but what if you do not want to upload 3 but 30 files?
method 1 would waste a lot of time
so method 2:
ftp all 30 files in one move to the folder /tikiwebsites/example.com/files/batchupload
back to tiki
file gallery
click on "upload files from directory"
you are prvided with a list of the files you just ftped to the folder batchupload
a tickbox left besides each of the
can choose all or just a few of them, and choose dropdown to import in whatever existing filegallery
done
*)
oops
*please mind* that the subfolders of /files must have the appropriate rights set -> CHMOD 755 or 777, I am not shure
guess you need 777, but that might depend on the webhoster
so you see why it is important not to store in the tikiroot, where the domain points to
any questions? I am finished
refizul: one question:
Where is the button "upload files from directory"? Has it to be activated by the admin?
fabricius: you need permission for that - Admins see it by default ... maybe it is called slghtly different, let me check ... and batchupload must be activeted in tiki-admin.php?page=figal (sorry I mentioned before =filegallery, but its =fgal)
ahh in my english trunk it's called "Directory Batch"
sorry
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refizul: is this a new feature?
fabricius: no
I am not sure, if I extended the documentation completely ... s.b. I explained this before did add a bit to the docpage ... actually this is one of the first thing I want to make a screencast from
I have been on setting up the new screen capture feature for this on my website I am setting up these days
kstingel: can anyone help me with SVN filters?
fabricius: so maybe this weekend there will be a complete docpage and a video, if everything works out well
hi kstingel what are SVN filters?
refizul: It is all in http://doc.tiki.org/Batch+Upload but I do not see it.
fabricius: ah I'll check
kstingel: I want to prevent my SVN client from adding specific lang folders each time I add a tag revision
... I only understand English, so to save bandwidth, I wasnt to omit the other languages
- wasnt + want
fabricius: what you are changing for example kstingel?
kstingel: I only know very basic SVN .... not changing anything, adding to my checked out tag/x.y folders ... it's been a while, and I'm missing a couple I should have
one rule I do know ... make sure you have the latest version, before changing files :)
I don't have latest version of anything ... is at least 5 months since I updated *oops*
and I don't know command line SVN ... I use TortioseSVN :)
ricks99: hi karen. do you simply want to add the non-english language folders to your "ignore" list?
just right-click on them, and select SVN > Ignore
kstingel: ricks99: do I need to do that for each tag subfolder, or can it be done globally? ... that is exactly what I was trying to do :)
ricks99: from the gui, you have to do it for each tag. :(
kstingel: good thing I've only checked out some of the tags then :D
ricks99: but, iirc, you can edit the settigns/properities file and and have it globally
kstingel: *adds "learn proper SVN" to study list*
ricks99: lol
just wait until we move to git! ;-)
kstingel: whaaaa?
now you're makin me nervous Rick
ricks99: git-scm.com
kstingel: *adds "git" to study list too*
ricks99: a distributed scm system
refizul: doc says: Enable "Directory Batch Uploading" using Tiki's Admin Panel (tiki-admin.php) for the "File Galleries" feature.
But there is no "Directory Batch Uploading"
ricks99: refizul: are you filtering your admin options?
kstingel: ricks99: I know what git is ... but I have no idea how to use it ... I've had enuf trouble wiv SVN
ricks99: may need to enable advanced and experimental (iirc)
refizul: ricks99: THX, it's in experimental
ricks99: kstingel: been using git for other projects. powerful, but completely different paradigm
kstingel: refizul: when you enable it, there will be a field for you to enter the folder to permit uploading from ... you need to create the folder
ricks99: refizul: remember: you can always search for options.
refizul: I got it. It's activated and available in the left menu.
marclaporte: at webmail, there is a port for IMAP but not for POP3? Why that?
marclaporte: dunno
we use Zend Framework stuff behind it so if support by ZF, we should try to use
fabricius: rehi - my pc was hanging - too much running the same time
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fabricius: marclaporte: I tried the jcapture right this evening
I cannot play the video
are there any issues known?
and I couldn't change the capture size and not choose a specific file gallery
marclaporte: fabricius: works for me
fabricius: that's good to hear
marclaporte: did you try on demo.tiki.org ?
fabricius: not yet ... will do in a minute
did you have to configure things in the client? the hammurabi thing I mean
eeek somebody seems to have applied the cartograf profile for demotrunk
eeeeek admin password changed on demo.t.o/trunk?
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Jyhem: polom
admin password changed on demo.t.o/9x as well :-(
fabricius: yes
8x not yet
somebody makes jokes
maybe
I write Leu an E-mail to reset the pw
or maybe just reset the whole db
Jyhem: I was about to reset it, but I don't find a rset admin password in the installer
I thought we had one
shall I reset databases on demo.t.o/trunk and demo.t.o/9x ?
Oh, Olaf asked me whether he could get permission to edit French in <i18n.tiki.org>
Who is familiar with i18n.tiki.org ?
fabricius: half way I am ... did some translations a while ago
errr why olaf should get permission to translate french, whilst he already is admin on i18n, like we all
is there a special french admin group?
kidding
if he wanted, he could just translate
Jyhem: Well, I know nothing about i18n.tiki.org. What do you want me to answer him?
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fabricius: that if he ever have had translated German (Olaf Michael), then he can do French aswell
Jyhem: Here it is: "NOTE, Jean-Marc that I tried to correct this for i18n.tiki.org but it seems I'm not authorized to make corrections in French."
That's all I know
fabricius: hmm if he speaks French
maybe he should change the site language to French before he wants to translate it
it is the same procedure for every language
and there is only one Admin group existing - independant from language
it is simply an error 40
ahaha I know the problem!!!
I'll sort it out in a minute - brbr
Jyhem: k
fabricius: should be working, when he logs innext time
Jyhem: what was it ?
fabricius: oops no ... made a fault ;-)
another minute
Jyhem: k
fabricius: my error 40 now
dunno
you need to view the website in the languge you want to translate to -as you always translate from english
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Jyhem waonders what an error 40 is
fabricius: I guess, he did not manage to switch to french ... just did not think about that little detail
ah this
the error 40 is sitting just about 40 cm in front of the screen
I get this error frequently
maybe everybody of us at least from time to time
Jyhem: ahhhh ! A caseof pebcak
problem exists between chair and keyboard
fabricius: YES!
and you cannot get away with it
it just stays there until you stand up
most time I just forget to start looking in front of the computer first
So I just switched his preferred language to French ;-)
Olaf had it in English
but at the right side there is a module to switch languages aswell
Jyhem: I just passed your explanations. I do not believe French counts as his "preferred language" :)
fabricius: PICNIC is nice aswell
refizul: I've just found a typo on security. Line: Subscribe to the Tiki project information on Freecode (previously known as Freshmeat) -- The Link there is http://freecode.com/projects/tikii but should be with a single-i at the end
fabricius: But if he wants to translate French and does notmanage to switch to the right language this might do it well for the moment ;-)
greet him .. would like to meet him again some time - he is a very nice guy
refizul: Softaculous tells "Space Required : 91.18 MB" - it's a bit more meanwhile, isn't it?
fabricius: and ... http://i18n.tiki.org/my to switch back the preffered lang ;-)
refizul: via http://tiki.org/1-click+installers -> external
fabricius: refizul: didn't find there
refizul: fabricius: which one?
fabricius: second one
via http://tiki.org/1-click+installers -> external
refizul: it's not on tiki.org: http://tiki.org/1-click+installers -> http://tiki.org/Softaculous -> http://www.softaculous.com/softwares/cms/Tiki_Wiki_CMS_Groupware
fabricius: ah ok
the best bug reports: I found a bug ... guess where, I give you a hint ;-)
:-D
refizul: I just noticed the bottom of the pages with the lists of links isn't available at community pages?
fabricius: the freecode thing I didn't find either
Jyhem: fabricius: I already sent the email, so I would prefer not to change his account properties without warning (or he will waste time figuring what he did wrong)
refizul: fabricius: security.tiki.org
fabricius: ah sorry
I just takehat you did mention yesterday in the IRC and today in the devlist once I have some time ...
take that
refizul: special week: find ten bugs and get a tiki.org account for free
marclaporte: refizul, lhuberdeau and Tamler : http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=43288
fix 1 bug and and another account for free :-)
refizul: marclaporte: ah, nice
fabricius: should I add the security typo to the mailinglist?
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fabricius: refizul: I thought you already did write him an email?
refizul: I discovered the tikii one recently.
The bugs in the mail are other ones.
fabricius: just was kidding - but it turns out, that security is not connected intertikiwise to the community sites - so maybe a good idea to add it to another mail
I mean no intertiki, no login for me ;-)
fast man
refizul: What does "loc" mean in the headline of http://stats.tiki.org/Home?
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refizul: tiki.org down again?
http://dev.tiki.org/ : Tiki is unable to connect to the database
marclaporte: yes, me too
refizul: lines of code
refizul: lines of code? I'm lost. What do you mean?
ah
sorry - I was confused
marclaporte: stats.tiki.org gives some wonky stats. Something is fishy. Maybe no set up properly or not suited to our situation.
refizul: stats is down here
marclaporte: https://www.ohloh.net/p/tikiwiki is really good and accurate except for an issue to recognize committers for a few months in 2008
refizul: when the site comes back, I'll give you edit access to info.tiki.org
refizul: Is this really a coincidence... I file websites' bugs and someone shuts 'em all down ;-)
Is it possible to include CSS via HTML-code in the community UserPage?
Some hours ago I got: Plugin execution pending approval
marclaporte: refizul: what is your username on tiki.org ^
refizul: marclaporte: fmg
Jyhem: ciao guys
-: Jyhem needs sleep
marclaporte: gn Jyhem
refizul: I approved the Plugin execution pending approval. You have a stray [ on http://tiki.org/UserPagefmg
fabricius: refizul: I have read some of your articles
interesting
refizul: that's odd - I count as many [ as ]
the sites seem to be back
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refizul: I removed the [ and ] around DIV, but still no success with the vertical centering
and again there is: Plugin execution pending approval
fabricius: which ones do you mean?
Is there something wrong with avatar upload?
it seems it uploads an avatar but then nothing happens
marclaporte: is the edit access active? I do not see an edit button yet. Maybe I'll correct the "Berater" page tomorrow then.
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marclaporte: refizul: not yet
I'll do now
-: marclaporte was reviewing http://tiki.org/Teams
marclaporte: I am quite pleased now with the split of concern / responsibility
So we have 18 teams, half are techie, half, not techie
refizul: log out from info.tiki.org and relogin
You are now part of the "InfoTwoEditors" group. I just reviewed the permissions for that group. Please let me know if you are missing any
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kstingel: SVN error in tag/6.0/lib ... URL https://source.jasig.org/cas-clients/phpcas/branches/1.1-stable/source at revision 26272 doesn't exist ... I'll retry after this checkout completes
failed on retry too
is not a major problem for me ... is only pulled down for reference, not actually being used as Tiki install
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who can help me?
thankful!!!
help me please?
hello every body
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marclaporte: refizul: tikii link fixed. Thank you
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arildb: marclaporte: Got your email reply. The number of new schemas is not that great. For Tiki 10, I think 2 new tables were defined. So, I am not sure if it's worth the effort to automate the process of checking this.
marclaporte: oh, so only tables, not all schemas...
arildb: only tables, yes
marclaporte: right, but there are several checks
MyISAM
Which is sometimes forgotten
arildb: that's true, but the amount is low, and it's not difficult/lot of work to do a manual check. .... I do a check every now and then
marclaporte: ok
do you check http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release#Drop_Table as well?
arildb: not yet..will do
marclaporte: tks
arildb: It's not a part of my regular checking, no
marclaporte: also https://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release#Check__tiki.sql_suffixes
hehe :-)
arildb: ok
marclaporte: those are the scriptable ones
https://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release#Structure would be hard to automate
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arildb: marclaporte: About dropping tables ... If this is automated, it should take into account customizations. We use InnoDB and have added foreignkeys several places. The consequence is that the table must be dropped in the "opposite" order as they were added. Otherwise the drop table will fail. An automation should not require the drop, before the create table
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polomolomolom
ricks99: polom :)
jonnyb: just fixing a (nother) bug in registration/validation and want to change the message displayed if a user waiting for admin validation tries to log in
hi ricks99 - thanks for the 10th birthday mails, shame no party! :(
anyway, it currently says "Account disabled" and i'm going to change it to 'Account requires administrator approval' - sound ok?
or should i do that in the en to en translation do you think?
ricks99: sounds good to me
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jonnyb: just thinking translators will be annoyed if i do this in 9.x now (bit naughty, after the beta)
ricks99: think we need to do all/more in just en-to-en
makes it *much* easier for english-only folks (like me) to make quick tweaks
-: ricks99 wishes that *all* text strings were externalized
jonnyb: think i'll put it in trunk, maybe backport one day (after 9.2 release)
ricks99: +1
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amette: polom
jonnyb: hi amette
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amette: heya jonnyb :)
so beta is out, right? quite a bad place to make changes to the installer, isn't it?
I'd change the default error_reporting level, that's not so bad - I might do that.
jonnyb: yes, beta happened last night - bug fixes only now until after 9.2 release please
amette: But I don't know, if I want to go ahead and make the installer be verbose.
ok, thought so
jonnyb: and anyway, from now on no more merges back to trunk - so commit to trunk first then backport
amette: ah, ok, good to know, thanks
jonnyb: suppose i should update a wiki page somewhere... :)
amette: some wiki page is always waiting for an update :)
Jyhem_laptop: polom
amette: moloq
Jyhem_laptop: jonnyb: let me look at what message was displayed if a user waiting for admin validation tries to log in before refactoring
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Jyhem_laptop: jonnyb: yup, it was already "Account disabled" before :-(
'Account requires administrator approval' sounds so much better :)
jonnyb: hi Jyhem_laptop - think i've fixed most of the issues you found in registration/validation - can you check sometime please?
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sorry, freeze :-(
checking, jonnyb
jonnyb: thanks
have to pop out - bbl
Jyhem_laptop: svn up. I notice everything changed in lang/
bbl
-: ricks99 just downloaded tiki9.2b1... GREAT JOB ALL!!!!
Jyhem_laptop: jonnyb rocks: it all works fine like it used to :-)
ricks99: +100
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Jyhem_laptop: jonnyb rocks: it all works fine like it used to :-)
thanks
jonnyb: thanks Jyhem_laptop - hopefully even better than i used to because various things didn't work - registration without a valid tracker item, invalidate email etc etc
Jyhem_laptop: of course, jonnyb, I meant what worked before seems to work again, esp the user-visible feedbacks. I know you improved a lot underneath, esp security.
jonnyb: :)
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jonnyb: sorry about those 4 commits - ended up focussing more on backporting etc and not enough testing (hope it's ok now ;) )
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Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4305 - - Duration to remember log in - http://dev.tiki.org/item4305
Jyhem_laptop: Hmm, do we have ways of mass-approving plugins ?
or auto-approving plugins which are created with data channels ?
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marclaporte: Jyhem: tiki-plugins.php
Tiki|bot0: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4306 - - Meta: preview button for this "Bugs & Wish list" - http://dev.tiki.org/item4306
refizul: hello :-) new day, new problems...
marclaporte: edit at info.t.o is possible, but something is odd. The preview button doesn't show me a preview, but a completely empty editor field. I canceled the edit before breaking things.
Jyhem_laptop: thanks marclaporte
ricks99: refizul: did u click the preview icon? working for me on info.t.o
refizul: ricks99: yes, 1st edit, 2nd preview (below edit window, left button) -> empty edit window (via https)
ricks99: i'm in right now, editing. so issues i can see
do u have the preview area enabled (the magnifying icon at top of edit/preview area)?
refizul: I enabled it, preview, it disappears and leaves me with an empty edit window.
ah - I see a possible cause
the preview button below the edit window has got a popup
the preview button above the edit and below the preview section seems to work
but the popup ist just an information what's going on...
I checked this for another page - there it works almost fine.
The problem occurs here: https://info.tiki.org/Berater
ricks99: something specifc to that page?
refizul: I don't know. I wanted to correct several typos.
ricks99: hm.. when i edit that page, the preview is closed by default. i had to manually open it
refizul: And the edit box? Does the text stay inside?
ricks99: once i open it, preview works fine
y, just made a test edit
refizul: the upper preview button or the lower one?
ricks99: previewed and then saved. no issues
refizul: the problem is the lower one.
ricks99: um.. don't remember which button... let me try again
yup. second buttons dont work. because both buttons use the same id
elelment ids must be unique per page.
refizul: ah - can you fix that?
ricks99: fist let me switch back to english :0
quick fix, simiply disabled the second row of action buttons
need to test in 6.x proposals
refizul: eh - ugly ;-)
ricks99: ugly, but very low risk.
refizul: found another need-to-fix on your userpage
the line: If you're new to Tiki, I encourage you to check out my online book -- the link after this is messed up
-: ricks99 forgot he *had* a Tiki userpage
refizul: something is wrong with irc.t.o and https
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jonnyb: hi marclaporte
Tiki|bot0: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4307 - - Drag & drop images in the editor - http://dev.tiki.org/item4307
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jonnyb: taking a break - might be done for the day... (if so, bibi!)
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refizul: Webmail is considered to be experimental (in tiki-admin.php?page=features)!?
marclaporte: I would say so
But I haven't tried in a while
Did you test it?
arildb: did you try http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast
arildb: no I haven't
I did look at it though
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marclaporte: arildb: IMO, this addresses https://dev.tiki.org/item4307
I am not sure if it works in WYSIWYG though, but it works beautifully in wiki syntax
arildb: screencasts addresses drag & drop? I don't see the connection
marclaporte: Read this: http://dev.tiki.org/Copy-Pasting+an+image
http://dev.tiki.org/ScreenCapture
arildb: ok, now I see. I will try it out
thanks
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arildb: make sure you have java installed as it doesn't prompt you otherwise
lemme know if WYSIWYG works
arildb: I have Java
marclaporte1: I am unable to find how to start jcapture...and the video on http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast says "Media not found"
How do I start jcapture?
refizul: marclaporte1: I didn't test webmail yet. I need a complete testing environment with SMTP/POP/IMAP first.
marclaporte1: refizul: when you do, you tell me if it's experimental or not, and we'll change category accordingly
arildb: http://profiles.tiki.org/Screencast
arildb: you will then see it in the edit toolbar and admin toolbar
arildb: ok
marclaporte1: arildb: here is the kicker: you can draw on images after you upload!!
And you can do short video with audio too. This will be a revolution for documentation and bug reports
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marclaporte1: kwem : committer #515 :-)
arildb: marclaporte1: Got the screen capture icon added to the toolbar. Works fine in wiki editor mode, but jcapture fails to start in the CkEditor.
tried in FF
same problem in Chrome. jcapture doesn't seem to work in WYSIWYG editor mode
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arildb: no javascript nor PHP errors reported when I click "screen capture" in WYSIWYG
marclaporte1: Jonny worked on this integration, and I am sure he would be pleased if you solved this :-)
arildb: marclaporte1: You are right. This does ease the integration of images, but it's not regular drag and drop (as the users expect)
I am sure he would :-)
marclaporte1: once it's in WYSIWYG, it would be draw & drop
and with drawings!!!
arildb: I don't have time to look at it now, but I will try to look at it after I consult with jonnyb
I still consider "Drag and drop of images in the editor" an open wish
marclaporte1: ok
Can you show me an example of a FOSS project which has this?
arildb: I am not sure if it exists. I don't know of any.
marclaporte1: When I did my research, I ran into tech limitations of browsers
none of the WYSIWYG editors had this, and you would think that this would be their thing
arildb: yes
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refizul: about the experimental: we should give a hint somewhere to activate the checkboxes Basic + Advanced + Experimental in the Admin Home section. It's a bit of surprising that some common mentioned tools are missing in the Advanced section. I walked already two times into this trap.
marclaporte1: refizul: I agree
refizul: you can change them here: http://dev.tiki.org/Creating+New+Preferences#tags_array_
refizul: I think it should be "There are some matches in the preferences tagged as experimental. Do you want to see them as well?" (or something like this)
(When searching)
arildb: doesn't work in all browsers, but here are some leads: http://www.wikimatrix.org/forum/p3173-2010-03-20
arildb: ok
marclaporte1: refizul: we need to agree/define what those 4 things mean, and then deploy to all the prefs
refizul: what does this mean? : Search engine results respect the pref filter.
arildb: hm-m jcapture doesn't work at all using IE9. That means I am unable to properly debug....not nice
refizul: Do I get results only from where I set my prefs to?
I suppose this is not the case and wouldn't be useful. So what does it mean?
hm - this does not refer to the intern search but external engines?
marclaporte1: refizul: I meant for internal search on tiki-admin.php
refizul: Here a current tags: http://dev.tiki.org/Creating+New+Preferences#Tags:_what_they_mean
refizul: How long did it take until you went through all this stuff? Each time I understand something, something else comes along and confuses me again :-)
marclaporte1: refizul: I will am confused, after 10 years now
refizul: I still am confused, after 10 years now
But if I reflect on the early years, I would read all the documentation at each release
Within a year, it was like 350 pages already
Jyhem_laptop: and he would also print it and carry it around :-)
refizul: I'm at Creating+New+Preferences - and there is a typo - I want to correct it - and the find option in the edit box doesn't show it.
ok, done, but can you check whether the find option really works?
edit http://dev.tiki.org/Creating+New+Preferences and use the find option for: notice
and another hint: I noticed at some pages that the syntax "foo" doesn't produce italic text
fabricius: refizul: should it?
refizul: hm - was a missunderstanding, the '' at syntax page looked like "
fabricius: eh?
refizul: the wiki syntax doku for italic text
fabricius: ah ... you r multitasking
you know the difference between " and '' ?
hehe
double quotes and two single quotes
italic needs two single quotes ... you should not mix up with doublequote, whilst it really looks pretty much the same
refizul: I didn't mix that up - it's just wrong in the documentation. That's why I didn't get it.
I'll fix it.
no, it's not wrong - but it looks the same as "
fabricius: ah ... hmm I learned that from the docs the other days, but if it is not mentioned right or it is missunderstandable, yes make it bette
there must be a written hint or so to make it clear
I am fighting with jcapture right now
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refizul: I repeated the syntax in monospace - should be clear now: https://doc.tiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Text
fabricius: yeah that's nice
further down it is mentioned in a short sentence aswell
refizul: back to the other problem: find inside edit box
it seems as if the search string is found but the edit box doesn't switch its focus
this is somewhat unexpected. If one moves the curser, the focus changes to the right place, but without doing so it seems as if nothing happened.
this is a problem not only at tiki.org but in Tiki - the find function doesn't work in my installation