[00:09] wu-lee Is there a way to monitor changes particular user (or users) have made?  Googled, can't find one yet...
[00:24] refizul wu-lee: something with user tracking maybe
[00:25] wu-lee closest thing I can find so far seems to be "action logs" but it seems awfully complicated
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[00:43] refizul that's the price for the huge amount of options :-)
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[00:53] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: IE8 has stopped displaying CODE plugins properly - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45387
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[04:29] marclaporte wu-lee: yes, user contributions
[04:31] marclaporte http://tiki.org/user342 Click "User Contribution"
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[05:45] bls hello~
[05:45] bls hello fabricius~
[05:46] bls can you help with that question ?
[06:25] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4314 - - Using Wiki cache can show the wrong language to other users  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4314
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[12:29] arildb RobertPlummer: I looked at the video on http://doc.tiki.org/Forward+Link+Protocol. Looks interesting. I would like to test out this function
[12:30] arildb Only activate ForwardLink-Protocol, or is the Jison Wiki Parser also required (though this is not indicated)
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[12:47] xavi polom
[12:47] xavi any css master around?
[12:53] arildb I get an error on demo: Fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::getOption() in /www/htdocs/w00ec615/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/Negotiator/Parser.php on line 538
[12:53] arildb login and go to http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=For+Arild+2
[12:54] arildb edit the page, then try to switch to WYSIWYG mode >> ...Parser.php on line 538
[13:08] xavi ok, got it (looking at the css mastery used in doc.t.o)
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[13:57] * xavi realizes again that Jyhem_ (and/or Jyhem_laptop) rocks! (after banning ip's from hundreds of fake user registration with just a few clicks)
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[14:31] * Jyhem_ blushes
[14:32] xavi :-D
[14:33] * xavi writing a quick & dirty tutorial at doc.t.o about how to ban those few hundred ip's in less than 15 mins
[14:34] xavi he he, and later on, I expect to export the banned ip list from tiki banning, and import it to some other of my tiki sites that is still affected by those fake registration attempts...
[14:34] xavi all pieces coded in the last months seem to fit well for the sake of keeping your tiki sites decently free from nasty spammers
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[14:48] * Jyhem_laptop has been encountering a couple robo-registrations on some of his semi-inactive Tiki sites lately. So now I get a better feel of the use case :)
[14:56] xavi :-)
[14:57] xavi oh well, fyi: http://doc.tiki.org/How+to+Ban+many+IP+from+fake+registrations&structure=Tutorials
[14:57] xavi it's an ugly only-test-no-images type of tutorial, for I hope it can be useful as a starting point for others (like fabricious? :-) )
[14:58] xavi s / fabricious / fabricius
[14:58] xavi s/for I hope/but I hope
[14:59] xavi ok, back to banning a few more hundreds, and then, sharing with some of my other tiki sites...
[15:18] refizul Is it possible to configure Tiki edits in a way, that registered users with edit permission do not appear in the edit history?
[15:20] refizul A NGO wants users to decide themselves whether they appear or stay anonymous, but some spam protection by registration is necessary. A permanent captcha is not what they want.
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[16:12] changi polom
[16:12] changi internet connection back :à
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[16:26] fabricius refizul: hi, to the edit contribution ... pls check tiki-admin.php -> wiki -> contribution
[16:26] fabricius polom ya all
[16:30] changi fabricius: hi mister Tiki 10 :)
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[16:33] fabricius hehe changi, why?
[16:33] changi fabricius: because you are the Tiki 10 release man, no ?
[16:35] fabricius changi: nope, afaik Bernard will do the job, which I find better, as he has more professional experience than me.
[16:35] fabricius changi: and it looks like, that I will assist him and Jonny, to get more understanding and such ... in my mind a very good solution, but afaik this is not yet fully agreed
[16:40] changi fabricius: do we have a more official schedule ?
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[16:49] fabricius changi: afik not yet. I did chat with Jonny, who is on the way to Berlin now and I did not yet talk with Bernard ... so I will contact him and I think start should be mostlikely not before mid or end of next week
[16:49] fabricius -afik +afaik
[16:55] * changi migrating branding
[17:02] mlaporte arild: that error is WYSIWYG and JISON parser incompatibility
[17:04] xavi polom-back
[17:05] xavi fabricius:  fyi: http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-10-13,Sat&sel=52#l48
[17:06] xavi and reziful: the answer to your question about a user preference to be listed or not as editors of their pages: I'm afraid that this feature doesn't exist yet
[17:07] mlaporte xavi: In a few weeks, we'll have Tiki Screencast active on doc.t.o and it will be really quick to take screenshots
[17:07] xavi :-)
[17:07] xavi nice, mlaporte, thanks for all your hard work to have some working solution for screenshoting and screncasting solution bundled in Tiki :-)
[17:10] xavi bt, in case anyone is interested, I ended up sharing the list of 800+ spaming ip's (or tying to, throgh fake registrations, etc) to one of my tiki sites... all the ones since the early spam wave since early july 2012
[17:11] xavi zip file with the "admin banning" export-as-csv list here: http://doc.tiki.org/How+to+Ban+many+IP+from+fake+registrations&structure=Tutorials
[17:11] xavi fyi
[17:12] mlaporte tks xavi. Another dogfood: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginSign
[17:12] xavi yes, I saw it weeks ago :-)
[17:17] fabricius xavi, refizul I think the feature exists: tiki-admin.php?page=wiki first tab, scrol down: List authors: drop down menu -> none (disabled)
[17:20] xavi ok if that works for reziful (if it matches his use case). in any case, thanks for the pointer, fabricius
[17:20] fabricius mlaporte: this page for me is justr and only visible in the mobile perspective (from PC, no switch possible)
[17:20] fabricius np xavi
[17:20] changi mlaporte: branding moved
[17:21] fabricius changi: JFMI - moved where?
[17:21] mlaporte changi: tks for your dedication and efficiency
[17:22] changi fabricius: on the community server
[17:22] changi mlaporte: branding is still on 8.x
[17:22] changi mlaporte: should we move to 9 ?
[17:22] mlaporte changi: yes, please
[17:22] fabricius changi: ah server thingi -> complete siteinstall and database - not as perspective?
[17:24] mlaporte fabricius: on a related note, while on my mobile, I can see print button on doc & dev, but after I get an error. The print button doesn't seem to know that it should be hidden because dependencies are not met
[17:27] fabricius uh ... which dependencies? ah no print from mobile perspective  I guess, as usually no print from mobile phones and if, then differently mlaporte
[17:27] fabricius should be added to website revamp
[17:29] xavi how can I show in a wiki page a random image from a file gallery in Tiki9?
[17:30] mlaporte changi: can you also set https login for branding?   I think refizul has on a todo somewhere
[17:30] xavi I used to do that in a Tiki5 site with image galleries, but I can't find how to do that in Tiki9 (without image galleries)
[17:31] xavi adn that is one the last things that I need to sort out before mupgrading an old production site from 5.x to 9.x...
[17:31] fabricius xavi: this option should be in a module for file galleries
[17:31] xavi "a module": ...
[17:31] xavi :-) which one?
[17:31] * xavi searching in doc.t.o again
[17:31] changi mlaporte: https is already activate
[17:31] changi mlaporte: you can set it on tiki
[17:32] fabricius xavi: better search in admin_modules ... I am sure the name of the module is half way self explaining
[17:32] lindonb pluginimg use randomGalleryId param
[17:33] lindonb a random image from that file gallery will be shown
[17:33] xavi missleading approach: http://doc.tiki.org/Module+random_images (that's for image galleries)
[17:33] xavi thanks lindonb! that's exactly what I was searching! :-)
[17:33] fabricius mlaporte, changi: refizuls to do: https://tiki.org/TWR::minor%20issues
[17:33] lindonb np :)
[17:34] fabricius when upgrading to Tiki 10 TWR:: will be the namespace for Tiki Website Revamp
[17:35] mlaporte fabricius: http://tiki.org/Domains  (changi: can you update with branding change?)
[17:35] xavi lindonb: I was dreaming last month of a PluginAddTransaction made by you (or anyone with good Tiki & accounting background)
[17:35] changi mlaporte: yes (documentation <= definitly not my pleasure :) )
[17:36] changi mlaporte: what do you prefer for https : allow  / encourage / consider or require ?
[17:36] fabricius have to do some work now (structuring all the little thingis I am on, to get away with them step by step) and then bring back the little fabricius to his mom
[17:37] xavi lindonb: so that there was some easy way to add buttons in wiki pages (or even better, in tracker items through static text field and that plugin AddTransaction call inside) so that new transactions could be easily logged into the Tiki Accounting Feature
[17:37] lindonb xavi: how did the dream end? ;)
[17:37] xavi lindonb: that would be "THE" missing feature for Time Banks willing to use Tiki :-)
[17:38] xavi the end... ah.... I just woke up, and I saw that that plugin didn't exist yet :-)
[17:38] lindonb :)
[17:38] mlaporte changi: I'd like to hear refizul's opinion and I would like it to be the same setting on all *.tiki.org sites
[17:38] xavi lindonb: do you know Time Banks ? (there are some active ones in USA, it seems)
[17:39] lindonb xavi: not familiar with that, no
[17:39] changi mlaporte: ok
[17:39] xavi I used to show a youtube video from one in Vermont to my students from "Sustainability" at uni
[17:39] lindonb people trade services?
[17:40] xavi lindonb: in case you are interested: see here, video 2: http://sustainability.seeds4c.org/Session+13
[17:40] lindonb xavi: thanks xavi - will take a look
[17:44] changi mlaporte: page updated
[17:44] mlaporte changi: irc.tiki.org and stats.tiki.org (and any none Tiki powered)  can you update to the new top menu seen on dev/doc/etc. ?
[17:45] changi mlaporte: stats is a tiki
[17:49] lindonb xavi: saw the video, interesting
[17:50] lindonb have a few things going on right now but will give it a think
[17:50] xavi ok, thanks (and glad you like the video)
[17:51] xavi lindonb: jonnyb did a similar plugin to record transactions in cclite (external software), so I guess that the basic architecture of such a plugin AddTransaction (to the Accounting feature in Tiki) could be similar...
[17:52] mlaporte changi: tks. fixing stats now
[17:53] lindonb xavi: thanks, good tip
[17:53] changi mlaporte: irc fixed, i hope
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[17:58] xavi lindonb: sorry for the confusion, it's plugin "trade" (and not cclite) the one added by jonny in tiki6 for cclite, it seems. Afair, cclite was to be developed further, but the main code was added a plugin "trade"
[17:58] xavi http://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrade
[17:59] xavi so maybe this is just a question of porting it to allow trading using the Accounting feature in Tiki...
[17:59] xavi amazing, I was not aware of that....
[18:00] xavi marclaporte: ^fyi also
[18:00] lindonb xavi: so it should have exactly the same parameters?
[18:01] xavi from the top of my head, probably yes, plus some extra param to provide whatever params for the Accounting  feature (book, or whatever is needed in the "accounting world", in which I get lost)
[18:02] lindonb xavi: do you use the accounting feature - is it working well for a time bank?
[18:02] lindonb i've never used it
[18:04] xavi I don't use it (yet), because I can make it easy for my tiki users to indicate where should they move time-money from and to
[18:05] changi mlaporte: i've creat nextbranding to test tiki9, can you just have a look to confirm we can migrate.
[18:05] changi thx
[18:05] changi be back later
[18:05] xavi once that plugin trade (or similar) allows to use the Accounting feature, I would use it for some time banks in some suburbs in Barcelona, which are willing to use the same tiki site they use for the other barter related activities in their suburb
[18:06] xavi lindonb: the main thing for end users, is the ability to "buy" a service (listed as a tracker item), and get that virtual money (community currency, time-based in this case of Time Banks) logged in their account
[18:07] lindonb xavi: okay, just curious if other fixes or enhancements would be needed to the accounting feature for it to really work for this
[18:07] xavi however, I get lost in the translation of terms... I was looking for the equivalence of "registry" (time bank, or barter network) in the accounting world (as of listed here: http://doc.tiki.org/Accounting ), and I'm not sure...
[18:07] lindonb hopefully not
[18:09] xavi so maybe a registry in cclite (specific Time Bank frmo a specific location) equals a "Book" in the accounting feature?
[18:09] lindonb probably
[18:09] xavi ah, no... "registry" in cclite should be "journal" in Tiki Accounting terminology, probably...
[18:10] lindonb would cclite work?
[18:10] lindonb not familiar with what it does exactly
[18:10] xavi yes http://doc.tiki.org/cc but it was an unfinished bridge since the user management was not sync'ed
[18:11] marclaporte changi: when I try to login from nextbranding.tiki.org: XMLRPC Error: 101 - Invalid server key
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[18:29] arildb In Tiki10, where do I set the group homepage? I cannot find an edit field for it.
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[18:40] arildb Found it. I had to enable the "group Homepages"  feature first
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[19:23] xavi ok, time to leave. see you all
[19:23] changi marclaporte: fixed
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[19:34] d0cster Hello here :)
[19:37] marclaporte all: time to start thinking about joining a team or two: http://tiki.org/Teams
[19:40] marclaporte changi: nextbranding.tiki.org is all good. Please proceed to real upgrade
[19:42] changi marclaporte: ok
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[19:50] marclaporte refizul & all: Please help establish SSL policy for *.tiki.org : http://tiki.org/Preferences+of+%2A.tiki.org#HTTPS_SSL   (and any other *.tiki.org pref)
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[19:54] marclaporte mose: I like your userpage update http://tiki.org/mose
[20:02] changi marclaporte: branding is now on 9.x
[20:03] changi nextbranding is switching to trunk
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[20:15] d0cster any one can help me with his please : http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=44265
[20:15] d0cster :D
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[20:58] changi d0cster: websvn is using PHP_AUTH_USER, simply change the auth method in websvn to use Tiki's one
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[21:44] fabricius Hi d0cster: you did miss this message from changi:
[21:44] fabricius 20:58:29 - changi: d0cster: websvn is using PHP_AUTH_USER, simply change the auth method in websvn to use Tiki's one
[21:45] d0cster how can i do this, have you an example ?
[21:46] d0cster thank you
[21:49] d0cster ?
[21:49] fabricius d0cster: I am not a coder; I would suggest, that you look into the php files of Tiki, which take care about the Tiki login. Sorry, that at the moment I cannot help more
[21:49] d0cster okay thank you
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[23:18] d0cster oui
[23:18] marclaporte d0cster: why did you pick WebSVN?
[23:18] d0cster ecause it have all features to replace tools like trac webUI
[23:18] d0cster Trac
[23:19] d0cster and this because it's the only tool written in php
[23:20] d0cster in my case, i 'm trfying to replace Trac tool by a combination of  tiki /websvn
[23:20] d0cster tiki can index binary files, trac not
[23:21] d0cster ...
[23:21] marclaporte Ok, I added here: http://dev.tiki.org/Subversion (next to two other tools that are PHP-SVN as well, but do different things, FYI)
[23:22] marclaporte Do you think Tiki, as a project should use WebSVN in addition or instead of http://code.tiki.org/Tiki+Code+Review ?
[23:24] marclaporte Does it do Coade Review or it's just a PHP version of http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/ ?
[23:24] marclaporte Coade -> Code
[23:24] d0cster yep, we don't have enough information with Tiki Code Review
[23:24] d0cster websvn is complete script
[23:25] d0cster to intercact with the scm
[23:25] d0cster http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN
[23:31] marclaporte FYI, eventually, all SourceForge.net-hosted projects will be on Allura, which looks like this: http://sourceforge.net/p/jcapture-applet/code/
[23:32] marclaporte d0cster:  The most future-proof way for Tiki to be full Trac alternative is for the Tiki community to use it itself :-)
[23:33] marclaporte Does WebSVN have any other examples of integration?
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[23:36] d0cster I don't have an example, but it can be the occasion :)
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[23:37] marclaporte d0cster:  the UI of WebSVN is quite nice indeed
[23:38] marclaporte We can get an RSS feed for each file: http://demo.websvn.info/rss.php?repname=WebSVN&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fwww%2F&isdir=1&  cool!
[23:39] marclaporte Is it long/complicated for you to set up a demo with Tiki code?
[23:40] marclaporte d0cster: have you ever seen any PHP tools that permit http://dev.tiki.org/Web+commits ?
[23:41] d0cster the goal is just to see what is happening in the scm,  commit are done via CLI
[23:42] marclaporte FYI: http://profiles.tiki.org/Software_Project
[23:51] marclaporte d0cster: Say you had Single Sign On between Tiki and WebSVN, what would be missing to be an alternative to Trac?
[23:52] d0cster in my actual config, i use tiki + ldap for authentification keep users list up to date
[23:53] d0cster what i'm trying o do is just to restrict access to websvn,  this apply to any other php script ..
[23:53] d0cster applies
[23:53] d0cster an other php script that we need to protect via tikiwiki
[23:58] marclaporte I see