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refizulDoes Tiki need anything special from Linux? Or will it run on BSD machines out of the box? [01:18]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43517 10trunk/ 10(7 files in 2 dirs)
tikiwiki [ENH] enable/disable permission check 		[02:52]
refizulyeah! [02:52]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03nkoth r43518 10branches/9.x/lib/categories/categlib.php
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I have an issue with category. I have a group, a category, a structure : culture. I want member of group culture to be able to enter the main page of the category (ok), to add pages to the structure (ok). But when i do that i got : your user has not right to edit this page (no creation, no save).
i have given all perm in "culture" category to the Culture group but that doesn't help. Only if i give the Cultutre groups GLOBAL perm to edit wiki that work.
of course i don;t want the group to be able to edit any page… :( 		[12:31]
fabriciusBsfez: I have to leave the house ... will write you an email to answer, when I will be back ... made a note not to forget [12:40]
Bsfezok tks :) [12:41]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r43519 10trunk/tiki-editpage.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Namespace is now inherited from the parent page, when adding a page in a structure 		[13:56]
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RobertPlummerpolom all [14:18]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r43520 10trunk/ 10templates/comment/list.tpl 10templates/admin/include_comments.tpl 10lib/prefs/wiki.php
tikiwiki [NEW] Added Admin / Comments option: Display comments form by default
tikiwiki If selected, the post input field is displayed by default.
tikiwiki Requires that "Display by default" is also selected. 		[14:32]
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xavihi RobertPlummer (and all) [14:51]
RobertPlummerpolom xavi [14:51]
xavixavi in R debugging mode (so half brain, at least, is not on irc) [14:51]
RobertPlummerlol
*upgrading a 5.4 to 9.1 production system, so half brain on is not on irc*
Upgrading production systems always gets my stomach in a bind. 		[14:52]
Bsfezhi all… (but lunch time is already here) brb [14:57]
RobertPlummerWhat is everone's favorite upgrade methods for tiki?
*everyone's
I like the "old switcharoo"... ie, clone database, switch production db to clone, svn checkout latest branch in subdirectory, set it to original production db, upgrade production database in subdirectory, and when things look right, switch directories, upgrade to production.... :) 		[14:58]
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RobertPlummerWhat I favour about this method... literally no down-time. [15:01]
BsfezRobert i'll do exactly the same. I have to upgrade an old tw5 to tw9 too… share :) [15:02]
RobertPlummerI think tiki has many powerful components, and probably the most valuable is the upgrade path.
Leave nobody behind!
When I first heard about it, I was like.... WHAT!?!?!?
Total mind blower. 		[15:02]
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xavibrain back ;-)
RobertPlummer: yes, that is my favourite method for critical production sites :-)
smarty question: how can I say in smarty: if url=foo1 replace foo1 with bar, and if url=foo2 replace foo2 with bar also ?
so far I was doing something like: {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|replace:'/foo1':'/'}{$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|replace:'/foo2':'/'}
^but that doesn't work as I need, because my tiki site is under a subdir, and I get the subdir there...
mmmm, I have an idea.... 		[15:09]
can I have an OR clause inside a smarty piece of code (inside a smarty template, I mean)?
mmmm, oh well, I'll have to use regex_replace in smarty, instace of static replace.... 		[15:20]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03kwem r43521 10branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_slider.php
tikiwiki [bp/r43501] [FIX] Option 'showmultiple' usable in plugin 'slider' 		[15:32]
mosehey xavi [15:32]
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RobertPlummerxavi, I have a problem where tocnav is not showing up for a structure when the user is logged in as a non-admin, what permission needs to be set? [15:32]
xavihi mose :-)
RobertPlummer: mmmm, no idea, from the top of my head....
RobertPlummer: tiki version? 		[15:33]
RobertPlummer9.0 [15:33]
xavimmmm, it's working for me in many tiki 9 sites....
mmm, it works in doc.t.o for instance
you may have a look there... (but as I said, it should be shown in standard setups, maybe?)
s/instance of/instead of
^he he, consecuence of half brain not typing but still debugging
maybe 		[15:34]
RobertPlummerxavi, I'm looking at template/tiki-show_page.tpl and I see it checks for wiki_structure_bar_position 2 times for position = bottom
something fishy....
Shouldn't the first be checking for top? 		[15:36]
xavino idea, sorry :-/ [15:37]
RobertPlummerok, nm [15:37]
BsfezRobert i activated structures and used tocnav yesterday… worked fine for user with category perm/group [15:37]
xavimose, I have an important family meeting today (scheduled since months ago), so I'll be late for the webinar.... [15:38]
BsfezHey Mose… long time. :) [15:38]
xavixavi looking forward to hear the interview from marc to you...
... but I guess I'll have to re-play once recorded and shown through BBB 		[15:38]
RobertPlummerWhere here knows about structures and the breadcrumb?
I'm in an emergency situation if anyone can help. 		[15:51]
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xavimmm, simpler smarty regex_rerplace question (after 15 minutes with unssuccessful trial and error):
I want to replace in a url "/tiki-index.php" with "/"
and there is something wrong with this:
{$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'/tiki-index.php/':'/'}
xavi is a regexp newbie
any hint? 		[16:13]
Jyhempolom xavi [16:21]
xavihi Jyhem [16:21]
Jyhemwhat is wrong with {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'/tiki-index.php/':'/'} ? [16:21]
xaviI get the / removed also [16:22]
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Jyhem{$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'/tiki-index.php':'/'} ?
what is the complete original url ? 		[16:23]
xavisame effect (I had tried also that in my trial and error)
http://ueb.vhir.org/tools/tiki-index.php?page=HeatMaps+Edition&itemId=5 		[16:24]
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Jyhemand you get http://ueb.vhir.org/tools?page=HeatMaps+Edition&itemId=5 ? [16:24]
xavimmm, well, let me show errors for anons... [16:25]
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Jyhemnothing in error log ? If the smarty syntax fails, you might be working on the previously cached one instead of the one you think [16:25]
xaviah, ok... [16:27]
Jyhemand you did not tell me what you actually get as output [16:28]
xavise pm
see pm 		[16:30]
kstingelhi all [16:41]
xaviand the solution thanks to the tips from Jyhem-regexp-master is: {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'//tiki-index.php/':'/'} or {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'/tiki-index.php/':''}
that works for once case
ok, see you all (getting too close to teaching time)
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polom, sweet polom 		[16:59]
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Everyone coming to http://tiki.org/October+2012+Webinar later today? :) [17:19]
fabriciushi jonnyb - I'll try to pop in ... maybe will a bit late, but hopefully I'll get there
at the time 		[17:30]
jonnybhi fabricius - see you later [17:30]
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moseok so it's today ?
I was afraid to get lost in time again 		[17:41]
Bsfezlol yes Mose today [17:42]
mosegetting old [17:42]
Bsfez3 hours, 20 minutes and 1 second until the webinar
good to see u again 		[17:42]
moseI'm so sorry I don't remember you, blame my alzheimer [17:43]
Bsfezyonixxx is better ? [17:43]
moseah really better indeed [17:43]
Bsfez;) [17:43]
mosethat was not my alzheimer that was your shape shifting [17:43]
Bsfezbotox ! [17:44]
mosehaha
irc jumped in time 10 years ago 		[17:44]
Bsfezyou won't beleive, today i received from linkedin a request to endorse Bertrand (toggg) what a nostalgie… we need Damian [17:45]
moseohh [17:45]
BsfezBsfez raise a glass to toggg [17:46]
mosethis linkedin endorsment thing is really a great move for them [17:46]
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Bsfezyeap [17:46]
moseshhht he's here [17:46]
Bsfezoups…. move barbie
Bsfez the guy is catching irc log 		[17:47]
mosehaha
他要剛快發現我們開玩笑了 		[17:48]
Bsfezor… is computer wake up but not him. [17:49]
moselet's send him to google translate too [17:49]
BsfezLOL i was there… translation quite fuzzy
japanese ? 		[17:50]
moseas usual
chinese
traditional character set
I live in taiwan for 5 years now 		[17:50]
BsfezLOL google said it is japanese : We 發現 Comfort 玩笑 了 們開 other rigid requirements
i remember Asia 		[17:50]
mosewell those chars are same used in jap[anese [17:50]
Bsfezk [17:50]
mosebut not same meaning
and not same prununciation
in one word, totally misleading 		[17:51]
Bsfezi have a very good friend that moved from Paris to China 5 years ago too. :)
different life and mental 		[17:51]
mosequite comfy in my experience [17:53]
Bsfezcomfy ?
comme confortable ? 		[17:53]
moseyep [17:53]
Bsfezou confiture ?
ah 		[17:53]
mosecomfy luike an old sofa [17:53]
Bsfezk
i moved from Paris to israel and from israel city to a 200 people micro village up in the hills… i understand comfy. :)
kids time start soon if i want to be online for webinar got to move, cu 		[17:54]
kstingelis there a dummy page anywhere that we can use for testing new themes (and debugging existing ones)
... as opposed to loading tiki-index.php - I'm looking for a way to 'test' the themes prior to adding to tiki 		[18:06]
jonnybkstingel: have a look on themes.tiki.org - there's an example wiki page on there that might be a place to start? [18:08]
kstingelty jonnyb [18:09]
RobertPlummerguys I'm getting a newly upgraded site that goes to index.php of the root tiki directory and it is redirecting to itself, thus never letting the page load.
How do I fix this? 		[18:18]
jonnybRobertPlummer: empty caches?
also sometimes go to yourexample.com/logout to clear your session etc 		[18:26]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43522 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php
tikiwiki [FIX] user tracker: Fix logic on wrong antibot code during registration so the form is sent back without creating an item 		[18:44]
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43523 10branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php
tikiwiki [bp/r43522][FIX] user tracker: Fix logic on wrong antibot code during registration so the form is sent back without creating an item 		[18:52]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03RobertPlummer r43524 10branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_userlink.php
tikiwiki Fix to default to global if null 		[19:08]
jonnybRobertPlummer: so did you fix your userlink thing with that commit? [19:11]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43525 10trunk/admin/include_connect.php
tikiwiki [FIX] connect: Form filler - js just wrong 		[19:22]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: as the Argentinians say.... "Jess". [19:23]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43526 10trunk/ 10(5 files in 5 dirs)
tikiwiki [ENH] quickadmin: Add recently changed prefs menu 		[19:42]
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polom [20:17]
jonnybhi marclaporte [20:17]
marclaportewebinar with mose in 40 minutes! [20:19]
jonnybyay!
RobertPlummer: i'm digging about (finally) in the new parser - what is WikiPlugin_ParserNegotiator supposed to refer to? in CKEditor.php line 18 		[20:20]
mosewith what ?? [20:21]
RobertPlummerThe negotiator has to do with displaying a wiki plugin in a wiki page mostly. [20:21]
moseI don't have taht software [20:21]
jonnybi fixed one place it was breaking (in JisonParser_WikiCKEditor_Handler constructor - doing parent::__construct() first seems to help [20:22]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: Because it is mostly do to with security
jonnyb: Cool! 		[20:22]
jonnybyes, but the class "WikiPlugin_ParserNegotiator" isn't declared anywhere in tiki [20:22]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: The WikiCKEditor handler and negotiator mostly inherit from the wiki of the same type.
It should be "WikiPlugin_Negotiator_Wiki"
I did a search and replace and tried to fix all those.
The purpose of those classes was not clear at first, and then it became more clear what they needed to be.
Every time I get to something that is new, I try to build a test for it and ensure it stays working with the jison parser. 		[20:22]
jonnybWikiPlugin_Negotiator_Wiki seems to work there [20:24]
RobertPlummerHopefully you will do the same jonnyb, we want this thing extreamly solid. [20:24]
jonnybwell, it seems to break less [20:24]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: Thanks for finding.
jonnyb: I've spent literally a couple years coding it, it is about time.
jonnyb: I've noticed that the old parser gives me fits where the new one is solid.
like inserting line breaks. 		[20:24]
jonnybstill trying to find my way about - new parser is a big place! :) [20:26]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43527 10trunk/lib/core/ 10JisonParser/WikiCKEditor/Handler.php 10WikiPlugin/Negotiator/CKEditor.php
tikiwiki [FIX] parser: Couple of fixes for ckeditor (thanks RabertPlummer) 		[20:28]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: segregation and abstraction
jonnyb: But seriously, order is key in the new parser.
jonnyb: And make sure you phpunit any time we start messing with it.
it doesn't hurt to know that what you did is mostly stable. 		[20:29]
jonnybjust found a var called $TERROR - it starts at 2! :) [20:30]
RobertPlummerno no no
jonnyb: DO NOT mess with Wiki.php
That is a rendered file.
The parser is not for tampering
Every thing is
confusing I know. 		[20:30]
jonnybit ends up in an endless loop in ckeditor [20:31]
RobertPlummerIt is never popping the state.
Wanna meet in live.t.o and we can talk about it? Or skype?
a pre-meeting.... meeting.
If you debug in there, just know that is truly a parser, a port of Bison, and can be quite confusing.
But I can tell you right now, if it continues to parse past the end of a file, the state is remaining open. 		[20:31]
jonnybi'm guessing it should be using the cke parser, not the normal wiki one right [20:33]
RobertPlummerRight
Actually the CKEditor Handler
The parser is used to simply find execute plugins from the handler on it. 		[20:33]
jonnybcalled from $editlib->parseToWysiwyg() in tiki-auto_save.php [20:34]
RobertPlummerThat is incomplete, that needs to be integrated still. [20:34]
jonnybwas guessing that [20:35]
RobertPlummerThe handler is found here: core/JisonParser/WikiCKEditor/ [20:35]
jonnybyes, been stepping through that [20:35]
RobertPlummerOh ok.
So I believe the conversion method needs to go in the negotiator, no? 		[20:35]
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jonnybcan you check i did right in r43527 pls? guessing really [20:36]
changipolom [20:38]
jonnybit gets createed as a JisonParser_WikiCKEditor_Handler - just the parsing goes mad from there on...
hi changi 		[20:39]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: $this->Parser->htmlCharacter is already set when parent construct is called
If must be called afterward.
The fix needs to come from JisonParser_WikiCKEditor_HtmlCharacter 		[20:39]
jonnybbut the problem was (i think) was that the Parser was being created as a stdObject, and blowing up on the button() function [20:40]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: The new parser is extreamly flexible, reusable. We can override where needed for specific functionality. [20:40]
jonnybso just remove line 9 in JisonParser_WikiCKEditor_Handler [20:41]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: I don't think that is the problem. Can we do a skype screen share? [20:41]
jonnybjonnyb tries that
let's meet in bbb in 5 mins (need a little break)
brb 		[20:41]
RobertPlummerok [20:42]
marclaportemose: pm :-) [20:47]
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mosedamn my flash crashed [21:02]
marclaportehehe [21:02]
moseI better try chrome [21:02]
marclaporte"If you face problems with the connection, especially with audio, please try the following:
start your Skype and call the number 0018777678454, which is a�free�US landline number. You can call it without credits via skype_out. You will be asked for a conference pin number. This is 77777 (conference-pin = voicebridge = conference number)."
thanks to Torsten for adding this to the page 		[21:02]
jonnybhey amette: you coming to bbb? [21:06]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43528 10branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_js.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Sort of an enhancement, allow js to be loaded through header, so that some jQuery can be inserted into pages 		[21:46]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43529 10trunk/lib/simile_tiki/tiki-timeline.js
tikiwiki [FIX] timeline: elementId is the element id
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43530 10branches/9.x/lib/simile_tiki/tiki-timeline.js
tikiwiki [bp/r43529][FIX] timeline: elementId is the element id 		[21:48]
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Hi All, I am using the 9.1 and have a question about trackers: by adding a field you are told that "More field types may be enabled from the administration panel." However, I cannot find anything useful in the admin panel. So my question: how I can enable the rest of the field types?
the docs I checked, but it is outdated 		[23:05]
fabriciusGergely: /tiki-admin.php?page=trackers 3rd tabs [23:12]
Gergelythanks, fabricius. it is empty in my case [23:14]
BsfezHi Torsteen [23:14]
fabriciushave to join the webinar now
just came home
see ya later 		[23:17]
marclaporteEveryone can come back for https://tiki.org/live [23:18]
fabriciusmaybe you wanna write into the forum [23:18]
Bsfezi'm there too :) [23:18]
fabriciusBsfez: hi see ya there? [23:18]
Bsfeztomorrow [23:18]
fabriciusah [23:18]
Bsfezbreak.
i go to BBB now
we can talk about my problem tomorrow
:) 		[23:18]
mosethat bbb is really working fine now [23:19]
Jyhem_laptopRobertPlummer: back on BBB!
The parser part kinda requires your prsence :) 		[23:20]
fabriciusI have BBB audio via skype and do BBB without flash-audio [23:33]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: 9.1, enabling 'advanced' field types is missing from the admin panel - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45413 [23:49]
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