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[01:18] refizul Does Tiki need anything special from Linux? Or will it run on BSD machines out of the box?
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[02:08] refizul Tiki|bot: boo
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[02:52] refizul yeah!
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[12:31] Bsfez I have an issue with category. I have a group, a category, a structure :  culture. I want member of group culture to be able to enter the main page of the category (ok), to add pages to the structure (ok). But when i do that i got : your user has not right to edit this page (no creation, no save).
[12:33] Bsfez i have given all perm in "culture" category to the Culture group but that doesn't help. Only if i give the Cultutre groups GLOBAL perm to edit wiki that work.
[12:33] Bsfez of course i don;t want the group to be able to edit any page… :(
[12:40] fabricius Bsfez: I have to leave the house ... will write you an email to answer, when I will be back ... made a note not to forget
[12:41] Bsfez ok tks :)
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[14:18] RobertPlummer polom all
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[14:32] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [NEW] Added Admin / Comments option: Display comments form by default
[14:32] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki If selected, the post input field is displayed by default.
[14:32] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Requires that "Display by default" is also selected.
[14:51] xavi hi RobertPlummer (and all)
[14:51] RobertPlummer polom xavi
[14:51] * xavi in R debugging mode (so half brain, at least, is not on irc)
[14:52] RobertPlummer lol
[14:53] RobertPlummer *upgrading a 5.4 to 9.1 production system, so half brain on is not on irc*
[14:55] RobertPlummer Upgrading production systems always gets my stomach in a bind.
[14:57] Bsfez hi all… (but lunch time is already here) brb
[14:58] RobertPlummer What is everone's favorite upgrade methods for tiki?
[14:58] RobertPlummer *everyone's
[15:00] RobertPlummer I like the "old switcharoo"... ie, clone database, switch production db to clone, svn checkout latest branch in subdirectory, set it to original production db, upgrade production database in subdirectory, and when things look right, switch directories, upgrade to production.... :)
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[15:01] RobertPlummer What I favour about this method... literally no down-time.
[15:02] Bsfez Robert i'll do exactly the same. I have to upgrade an old tw5 to tw9 too… share :)
[15:02] RobertPlummer I think tiki has many powerful components, and probably the most valuable is the upgrade path.
[15:03] RobertPlummer Leave nobody behind!
[15:03] RobertPlummer When I first heard about it, I was like.... WHAT!?!?!?
[15:03] RobertPlummer Total mind blower.
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[15:09] xavi brain back ;-)
[15:10] xavi RobertPlummer: yes, that is my favourite method for critical production sites :-)
[15:12] xavi smarty question: how can I say in smarty: if url=foo1 replace foo1 with bar, and if url=foo2 replace foo2 with bar also ?
[15:13] xavi so far I was doing something like: {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|replace:'/foo1':'/'}{$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|replace:'/foo2':'/'}
[15:14] xavi ^but that doesn't work as I need, because my tiki site is under a subdir, and I get the subdir there...
[15:15] xavi mmmm, I have an idea....
[15:20] xavi can I have an OR clause inside a smarty piece of code (inside a smarty template, I mean)?
[15:24] xavi mmmm, oh well, I'll have to use regex_replace in smarty, instace of static replace....
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[15:32] mose hey xavi
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[15:32] RobertPlummer xavi, I have a problem where tocnav is not showing up for a structure when the user is logged in as a non-admin, what permission needs to be set?
[15:33] xavi hi mose :-)
[15:33] xavi RobertPlummer: mmmm, no idea, from the top of my head....
[15:33] xavi RobertPlummer: tiki version?
[15:33] RobertPlummer 9.0
[15:34] xavi mmmm, it's working for me in many tiki 9 sites....
[15:34] xavi mmm, it works in doc.t.o for instance
[15:35] xavi you may have a look there... (but as I said, it should be shown in standard setups, maybe?)
[15:35] xavi s/instance of/instead of
[15:36] xavi ^he he, consecuence of half brain not typing but still debugging
[15:36] xavi maybe
[15:36] RobertPlummer xavi, I'm looking at template/tiki-show_page.tpl and I see it checks for wiki_structure_bar_position 2 times for position = bottom
[15:36] RobertPlummer something fishy....
[15:36] RobertPlummer Shouldn't the first be checking for top?
[15:37] xavi no idea, sorry :-/
[15:37] RobertPlummer ok, nm
[15:37] Bsfez Robert i activated structures and used tocnav yesterday… worked fine for user with category perm/group
[15:38] xavi mose, I have an important family meeting today (scheduled since months ago), so I'll be late for the webinar....
[15:38] Bsfez Hey Mose… long time. :)
[15:38] * xavi looking forward to hear the interview from marc to you...
[15:38] xavi ... but I guess I'll have to re-play once recorded and shown through BBB
[15:51] RobertPlummer Where here knows about structures and the breadcrumb?
[15:51] RobertPlummer I'm in an emergency situation if anyone can help.
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[16:13] xavi mmm, simpler smarty regex_rerplace question (after 15 minutes with unssuccessful trial and error):
[16:13] xavi I want to replace in a url "/tiki-index.php" with "/"
[16:14] xavi and there is something wrong with this:
[16:14] xavi {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'\/tiki-index.php\/':'\/'}
[16:14] * xavi is a regexp newbie
[16:14] xavi any hint?
[16:21] Jyhem polom xavi
[16:21] xavi hi Jyhem
[16:21] Jyhem what is wrong with {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'\/tiki-index.php\/':'\/'} ?
[16:22] xavi I get the / removed also
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[16:23] Jyhem {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'\/tiki-index.php':'\/'} ?
[16:23] Jyhem what is the complete original url ?
[16:24] xavi same effect (I had tried also that in my trial and error)
[16:24] xavi http://ueb.vhir.org/tools/tiki-index.php?page=HeatMaps+Edition&itemId=5
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[16:24] Jyhem and you get http://ueb.vhir.org/tools?page=HeatMaps+Edition&itemId=5 ?
[16:25] xavi mmm, well, let me show errors for anons...
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[16:25] Jyhem nothing in error log ? If the smarty syntax fails, you might be working on the previously cached one instead of the one you think
[16:27] xavi ah, ok...
[16:28] Jyhem and you did not tell me what you actually get as output
[16:30] xavi se pm
[16:30] xavi see pm
[16:41] kstingel hi all
[16:45] xavi and the solution thanks to the tips from Jyhem-regexp-master is: {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'/\/tiki-index.php/':'/'} or {$smarty.server.PHP_SELF|regex_replace:'/tiki-index.php/':''}
[16:45] xavi that works for once case
[16:48] xavi ok, see you all (getting too close to teaching time)
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[17:01] jonnyb polom, sweet polom
[17:19] jonnyb Everyone coming to http://tiki.org/October+2012+Webinar later today? :)
[17:30] fabricius hi jonnyb - I'll try to pop in ... maybe will a bit late, but hopefully I'll get there
[17:30] fabricius at the time
[17:30] jonnyb hi fabricius - see you later
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[17:41] mose ok so it's today ?
[17:42] mose I was afraid to get lost in time again
[17:42] Bsfez lol yes Mose today
[17:42] mose getting old
[17:42] Bsfez 3 hours, 20 minutes and 1 second until the webinar
[17:43] Bsfez good to see u again
[17:43] mose I'm so sorry I don't remember you, blame my alzheimer
[17:43] Bsfez yonixxx is better ?
[17:43] mose ah really better indeed
[17:43] Bsfez ;)
[17:43] mose that was not my alzheimer that was your shape shifting
[17:44] Bsfez botox !
[17:44] mose haha
[17:44] mose irc jumped in time 10 years ago
[17:45] Bsfez you won't beleive, today i received from linkedin a request to endorse Bertrand (toggg) what a nostalgie… we need Damian
[17:45] mose ohh
[17:46] * Bsfez raise a glass to toggg
[17:46] mose this linkedin endorsment thing is really a great move for them
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[17:46] Bsfez yeap
[17:46] mose shhht he's here
[17:47] Bsfez oups…. move barbie
[17:47] * Bsfez the guy is catching irc log
[17:48] mose haha
[17:49] mose 他要剛快發現我們開玩笑了
[17:49] Bsfez or… is computer wake up but not him.
[17:49] mose let's send him to google translate too
[17:50] Bsfez LOL i was there… translation quite fuzzy
[17:50] Bsfez japanese ?
[17:50] mose as usual
[17:50] mose chinese
[17:50] mose traditional character set
[17:50] mose I live in taiwan for 5 years now
[17:50] Bsfez LOL google said it is japanese : We 發現 Comfort 玩笑 了 們開 other rigid requirements
[17:50] Bsfez i remember Asia
[17:50] mose well those chars are same used in jap[anese
[17:50] Bsfez k
[17:51] mose but not same meaning
[17:51] mose and not same prununciation
[17:51] mose in one word, totally misleading
[17:51] Bsfez i have a very good friend that moved from Paris to China 5 years ago too. :)
[17:52] Bsfez different life and mental
[17:53] mose quite comfy in my experience
[17:53] Bsfez comfy ?
[17:53] Bsfez comme confortable ?
[17:53] mose yep
[17:53] Bsfez ou confiture ?
[17:53] Bsfez ah
[17:53] mose comfy luike an old sofa
[17:54] Bsfez k
[17:54] Bsfez i moved from Paris to israel and from israel city to a 200 people micro village up in the hills… i understand comfy. :)
[17:56] Bsfez kids time start soon if i want to be online for webinar got to move, cu
[18:06] kstingel is there a dummy page anywhere that we can use for testing new themes (and debugging existing ones)
[18:07] kstingel ... as opposed to loading tiki-index.php - I'm looking for a way to 'test' the themes prior to adding to tiki
[18:08] jonnyb kstingel: have a look on themes.tiki.org - there's an example wiki page on there that might be a place to start?
[18:09] kstingel ty jonnyb
[18:18] RobertPlummer guys I'm getting a newly upgraded site that goes to index.php of the root tiki directory and it is redirecting to itself, thus never letting the page load.
[18:18] RobertPlummer How do I fix this?
[18:26] jonnyb RobertPlummer: empty caches?
[18:26] jonnyb also sometimes go to yourexample.com/logout to clear your session etc
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[19:11] jonnyb RobertPlummer: so did you fix your userlink thing with that commit?
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[19:23] RobertPlummer jonnyb: as the Argentinians say.... "Jess".
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[20:17] marclaporte polom
[20:17] jonnyb hi marclaporte
[20:19] marclaporte webinar with mose in 40 minutes!
[20:20] jonnyb yay!
[20:21] jonnyb RobertPlummer: i'm digging about (finally) in the new parser - what is WikiPlugin_ParserNegotiator supposed to refer to? in CKEditor.php line 18
[20:21] mose with what ??
[20:21] RobertPlummer The negotiator has to do with displaying a wiki plugin in a wiki page mostly.
[20:21] mose I don't have taht software
[20:22] jonnyb i fixed one place it was breaking (in JisonParser_WikiCKEditor_Handler constructor - doing parent::__construct() first seems to help
[20:22] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Because it is mostly do to with security
[20:22] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Cool!
[20:22] jonnyb yes, but the class "WikiPlugin_ParserNegotiator" isn't declared anywhere in tiki
[20:22] RobertPlummer jonnyb: The WikiCKEditor handler and negotiator mostly inherit from the wiki of the same type.
[20:23] RobertPlummer It should be "WikiPlugin_Negotiator_Wiki"
[20:23] RobertPlummer I did a search and replace and tried to fix all those.
[20:23] RobertPlummer The purpose of those classes was not clear at first, and then it became more clear what they needed to be.
[20:24] RobertPlummer Every time I get to something that is new, I try to build a test for it and ensure it stays working with the jison parser.
[20:24] jonnyb WikiPlugin_Negotiator_Wiki seems to work there
[20:24] RobertPlummer Hopefully you will do the same jonnyb, we want this thing extreamly solid.
[20:24] jonnyb well, it seems to break less
[20:24] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Thanks for finding.
[20:25] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I've spent literally a couple years coding it, it is about time.
[20:25] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I've noticed that the old parser gives me fits where the new one is solid.
[20:25] RobertPlummer like inserting line breaks.
[20:26] jonnyb still trying to find my way about - new parser is a big place! :)
[20:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43527 10trunk/lib/core/ 10JisonParser/WikiCKEditor/Handler.php 10WikiPlugin/Negotiator/CKEditor.php
[20:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] parser: Couple of fixes for ckeditor (thanks RabertPlummer)
[20:29] RobertPlummer jonnyb: segregation and abstraction
[20:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: But seriously, order is key in the new parser.
[20:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: And make sure you phpunit any time we start messing with it.
[20:30] RobertPlummer it doesn't hurt to know that what you did is mostly stable.
[20:30] jonnyb just found a var called $TERROR - it starts at 2! :)
[20:30] RobertPlummer no no no
[20:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: DO NOT mess with Wiki.php
[20:31] RobertPlummer That is a rendered file.
[20:31] RobertPlummer The parser is not for tampering
[20:31] RobertPlummer Every thing is
[20:31] RobertPlummer confusing I know.
[20:31] jonnyb it ends up in an endless loop in ckeditor
[20:31] RobertPlummer It is never popping the state.
[20:31] RobertPlummer Wanna meet in live.t.o and we can talk about it?  Or skype?
[20:31] RobertPlummer a pre-meeting.... meeting.
[20:33] RobertPlummer If you debug in there, just know that is truly a parser, a port of Bison, and can be quite confusing.
[20:33] RobertPlummer But I can tell you right now, if it continues to parse past the end of a file, the state is remaining open.
[20:33] jonnyb i'm guessing it should be using the cke parser, not the normal wiki one right
[20:33] RobertPlummer Right
[20:34] RobertPlummer Actually the CKEditor Handler
[20:34] RobertPlummer The parser is used to simply find execute plugins from the handler on it.
[20:34] jonnyb called from $editlib->parseToWysiwyg() in tiki-auto_save.php
[20:34] RobertPlummer That is incomplete, that needs to be integrated still.
[20:35] jonnyb was guessing that
[20:35] RobertPlummer The handler is found here: core/JisonParser/WikiCKEditor/
[20:35] jonnyb yes, been stepping through that
[20:35] RobertPlummer Oh ok.
[20:36] RobertPlummer So I believe the conversion method needs to go in the negotiator, no?
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[20:36] jonnyb can you check i did right in r43527 pls? guessing really
[20:38] changi polom
[20:39] jonnyb it gets createed as a JisonParser_WikiCKEditor_Handler - just the parsing goes mad from there on...
[20:39] jonnyb hi changi
[20:39] RobertPlummer jonnyb: $this->Parser->htmlCharacter is already set when parent construct is called
[20:39] RobertPlummer If must be called afterward.
[20:40] RobertPlummer The fix needs to come from JisonParser_WikiCKEditor_HtmlCharacter
[20:40] jonnyb but the problem was (i think) was that the Parser was being created as a stdObject, and blowing up on the button() function
[20:40] RobertPlummer jonnyb: The new parser is extreamly flexible, reusable.  We can override where needed for specific functionality.
[20:41] jonnyb so just remove line 9 in JisonParser_WikiCKEditor_Handler
[20:41] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I don't think that is the problem.  Can we do a skype screen share?
[20:41] * jonnyb tries that
[20:42] jonnyb let's meet in bbb in 5 mins (need a little break)
[20:42] jonnyb brb
[20:42] RobertPlummer ok
[20:47] marclaporte mose: pm :-)
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[21:02] mose damn my flash crashed
[21:02] marclaporte hehe
[21:02] mose I better try chrome
[21:02] marclaporte "If you face problems with the connection, especially with audio, please try the following:
[21:02] marclaporte start your Skype and call the number 0018777678454, which is a�free�US landline number. You can call it without credits via skype_out. You will be asked for a conference pin number. This is 77777 (conference-pin = voicebridge = conference number)."
[21:02] marclaporte thanks to Torsten for adding this to the page
[21:06] jonnyb hey amette: you coming to bbb?
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[23:05] Gergely Hi All, I am using the 9.1 and have a question about trackers: by adding a field you are told that "More field types may be enabled from the administration panel." However, I cannot find anything useful in the admin panel. So my question: how I can enable the rest of the field types?
[23:06] Gergely the docs I checked, but it is outdated
[23:12] fabricius Gergely: /tiki-admin.php?page=trackers 3rd tabs
[23:14] Gergely thanks, fabricius. it is empty in my case
[23:14] Bsfez Hi Torsteen
[23:17] fabricius have to join the webinar now
[23:17] fabricius just came home
[23:17] fabricius see ya later
[23:18] marclaporte Everyone can come back for https://tiki.org/live
[23:18] fabricius maybe you wanna write into the forum
[23:18] Bsfez i'm there too :)
[23:18] fabricius Bsfez: hi see ya there?
[23:18] Bsfez tomorrow
[23:18] fabricius ah
[23:18] Bsfez break.
[23:18] Bsfez i go to BBB now
[23:18] Bsfez we can talk about my problem tomorrow
[23:18] Bsfez :)
[23:19] mose that bbb is really working fine now
[23:20] Jyhem_laptop RobertPlummer: back on BBB!
[23:20] Jyhem_laptop The parser part kinda requires your prsence :)
[23:33] fabricius I have BBB audio via skype and do BBB without flash-audio
[23:49] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: 9.1, enabling 'advanced' field types is missing from the admin panel - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45413