[00:01] marclaporte refizul: you can run the script, and if there are no conflicts, commit
[00:02] marclaporte If there are conflicts, just let it be and let someone more experienced handle it
[00:03] marclaporte it's easy when there are no conflicts http://dev.tiki.org/Semi-automatic+merging+period and when you do it every day, there are rarely any :-)
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[00:06] refizul I added something, output is a line (not committed yet): ??? root root drwxrwxrwt 777 /tmp
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[00:13] refizul I wonder how to use environment variable in PHP...
[00:16] refizul won't work anyway - TMP may be empty
[00:18] refizul are there usesaces with other webservers or other operating systems which need to be considered as problem related to perm issues?
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[00:26] refizul last night I had an idea about users' accounts takeover protection
[00:27] refizul depending on the environment sometimes a user has to use http at least temporarily
[00:28] refizul since the password is exposed and the account could be taken over, a second related account may be an idea, which is used only for resetting the first account
[00:30] refizul this idea can be extended to a superadmin account, where the password can't be changed by a normal admin
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[00:30] marclaporte refizul: the priority is really Linux shared hosting, but there can be some Windows temp dir not available (I guess)
[00:31] marclaporte refizul: anytime a password is changed, an email should be sent to that account
[00:31] marclaporte so if there was a highjack, we know quickly
[00:32] refizul what about changing email first?
[00:33] refizul I've seen the concept of admin and superadmin at postfixadmin.
[00:37] refizul demo: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/permissioncheck/
[00:38] refizul it's not enabled correctly yet, but one can see a problem with /tmp
[00:41] fabricius polom
[00:41] fabricius just came home from work
[00:41] fabricius reading back tons of mails
[00:41] refizul hello fabricius
[00:41] fabricius anything in IRC happend, I should reread?
[00:41] fabricius hello refizul
[00:42] refizul sf problems up and down, normalizing
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[01:04] refizul fabricius: take a look at http://demo.tiki.org/10x/permissioncheck/ -- especially /tmp almost at the bottom
[01:14] fabricius refizul: hum
[01:15] fabricius you are comparing what is (left) and what should (right)??
[01:16] refizul no - not there, because I cannot change server settings.
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[01:18] refizul I do not know "should" (left) - but the "is" 333 is funny. You mustn't forget your filenames, or they are inaccessible
[01:26] fabricius ah I mixed up should and is
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[01:27] fabricius yes ... but it is temp ... I do not often see 333 ... whilst i am just a newby to shell anyway
[01:27] fabricius newbie
[01:27] fabricius seems to english aswell
[01:35] refizul demo is restrictive to /home
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[01:35] booksilent hello there
[01:36] booksilent i have a few questions about the features of Tiki if anyone knowledgeable would like to help?
[01:36] booksilent obviously i'm being a lazy nubbin and not reading the entirety of the guides first...
[01:37] booksilent which i will surely do, once i'm confident it is worth investing the time (for features that may not exist or be possible)
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[01:38] refizul booksilent: what do you want to know? I still don't know much myself...
[01:39] booksilent refizul: how extensible is the wiki-ness of the feature? That was not clear enough to me looking through the site... can every feature be wikified? Such as wikified forums?
[01:40] booksilent or does it come with a 'wiki', and a separate 'forum'?
[01:40] marclaporte separate
[01:40] marclaporte But the wiki way is all over the app
[01:41] refizul what do you mean by wikified? the features can be enabled and disabled seperately
[01:41] marclaporte So wiki syntax is available everywhere
[01:41] booksilent so the forum could be wiki enabled? for instance, members of the forum could unitely decide on the layout, categories and running of the very forum they're using to discuss how to wiki their forum?
[01:42] booksilent recursive, i know... but bare with me on this ^_^
[01:42] marclaporte hehe, ok, so you explain first, and then, we answer :-)
[01:43] marclaporte Tiki has a lot of recursive stuff :-)
[01:43] booksilent well, that's really it in a nutshell... a forum that the forum members can change inside and out
[01:44] marclaporte what could a typical user change?
[01:44] booksilent i suppose, if i thought outside of the box, a wiki could be used as a forum... but i digress
[01:44] booksilent i'm glad you asked... that leads to my second yet equally important question
[01:44] marclaporte On Wikipedia, they use wiki pages for discussions which you can do in any wiki, but we also offer threaded comments, and regular forums
[01:45] refizul the members need certain permissions to change settings - this is possible by putting them into a group and assigning certain permissions to this group
[01:45] booksilent threaded comments <3
[01:45] booksilent ^_^
[01:45] refizul or you may turn forum on and wiki off, then use Tiki as forum only
[01:46] booksilent my second question... Can the 'permissions' themselves be wikified? So some sort of democracy takes place... or are there any other systems of 'promotion'?
[01:46] refizul yes - by grouping permissions and adding users to several groups
[01:46] booksilent So, for instance, some group of people have permission to 'promote' other, lower members, to their level, but no higher
[01:47] booksilent and members with higher permissions can promote those lower to them, to their level
[01:47] booksilent and so on
[01:48] refizul I'm not exactly sure whether a group can be given a grant option for others to join the group, but I think it is possible
[01:48] booksilent and are there any other methods you know of that are available for assigned permissions? Such as the dreaded 'post count' (will not use!), or 'voting' etc.
[01:48] marclaporte http://doc.tiki.org/Group+Transitions
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[01:49] marclaporte permissions are based on groups and you can determine the workflow you want. Ex.: self-join, or people from group X can add people to group Y
[01:49] marclaporte or people apply to a group, but need to be approved by another group
[01:50] booksilent that is awesome xD
[01:50] booksilent thank you for your time refizul and marclaporte
[01:50] booksilent I will read up on this link and perhaps discover i have found what i have been looking for! :)
[01:51] booksilent oh, one last thing... curiosity kills
[01:51] marclaporte This is the most important link: http://tiki.org/FOSS+Web+Application+with+the+most+built-in+features
[01:51] booksilent the best example of a Tiki site in action?
[01:52] marclaporte http://info.tiki.org/Featured+Tikis
[01:53] marclaporte Tiki covers so many use cases, there is no one best example
[01:53] marclaporte It's perhaps the last web application you will ever need :-)
[01:53] booksilent Approaching event horizion, indeed ;)
[01:54] booksilent thank you for your patience and the links... feeling like i'm being lazy now... should find these things myself
[01:54] booksilent may catch you around again!
[01:54] booksilent must read... and, unfortunately, sleep
[01:56] booksilent ^_^
[01:58] fabricius hehe marclaporte and refizul we should cut out this chat between booksilent and you two for the website revamp team
[01:59] refizul This tmp etc home ... stuff is strange - shoulsd I replace that with an input form?
[01:59] fabricius really
[01:59] fabricius with an input form refizul ?
[01:59] fabricius do you mean that is the servers tmp?
[02:00] fabricius <- two different questions
[02:00] refizul yes, user input /var/www/somewebstuff -> permissions of that path or file
[02:00] fabricius still not understand - you want to change things like in a php shell?
[02:00] refizul actually on demo? yes, Unix /tmp
[02:01] fabricius not on demo, but I can fly over
[02:01] fabricius plenty of warnings in 10.x
[02:02] refizul I'm thinking of an input form where a user can request permissions from any file
[02:02] fabricius ahhh
[02:02] fabricius nice idea
[02:02] refizul actually I implemented static /etc /home /tmp
[02:03] fabricius and next step: change it, if php exec is enabled and finally disable php exec
[02:03] refizul I don't want to change things via php - this won't work in most cases
[02:04] fabricius ok, just an idea
[02:04] refizul process owner needn't be file owner
[02:05] refizul chmod can be done via ssh or ftp
[02:05] fabricius if you have ssh
[02:05] refizul php shell is very risky, BTW
[02:06] fabricius i am pretty sure - in which respect you think risky?
[02:06] refizul I do not want a bunch of unexperienced users to shoot themselves into their feet
[02:06] fabricius into their knees
[02:08] refizul provide information and let them use ftp or something better to fix whatsoever
[02:08] fabricius yes and there are other risks, we need not discuss publicly
[02:09] fabricius ftp is risky aswell ... especially if the user needs ssh and you did not run tiki-check.php and understood the messages
[02:10] fabricius need not to say more
[02:10] refizul one more: the trouble shooting and bug reports arising in the Tiki community instead of where those things belong
[02:11] refizul forgotten to disable php shell would become the no1 problem
[02:11] fabricius isn't both different things? and do you mean request for trouble shooting or what?
[02:12] fabricius as said ... php shell nee not to be discussed - you know, I know and I agree with you
[02:12] refizul yes, request for trouble shooting - ftp itself is risky but out of Tiki's scope
[02:12] fabricius whats about sftp?
[02:13] refizul all use cases where users do not have ssh or sftp are possible, even if less secure -- we cannot do anything about that
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[02:15] fabricius need to start work now
[02:53] refizul marclaporte: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/permissioncheck/
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[08:26] coaboa polom. Is there a way to have applied a css rule/class from eg. wiki page "css-wiki" to be apllied @ a pligin {DIV} on another page/s
[08:46] coaboa goal: to use a wiki page as code source for other pages
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[08:56] fabricius you mean use wki page as another custom code area?
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[09:13] coaboa ;-) basically yes. but with revison control code highlighting and so forth..
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[09:13] rahul_ Hi expert.. plz help for Org Chart.. its not display in upgrade version of 9.1
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[11:58] arildb I am looking at http://www.symbaloo.com/ they use a large icon command display. Similar "command listings" are now found in other systems. Are there any Tiki functionality/modules for such interfaces (other than building from scratch).
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[12:51] changi marclaporte: internet problem :)
[12:52] * changi switching next* on Tiki10
[12:52] changi Bsfez: ping
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[13:02] marclaporte changi: you will be very popular (in demand) in the coming weeks :-)
[13:07] changi marclaporte: why ?
[13:07] changi packaging and switching websites to their correct branch ?
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[13:13] jonnyb polom
[13:15] changi jonnyb: hi
[13:15] jonnyb hi changi, you well?
[13:15] changi yes fine and you
[13:16] jonnyb good thx - except i have to go out soon and lie under my car in the rain (to try and fix the brakes!)
[13:16] changi oh, svn up brakes doesn't work :)
[13:16] changi ?
[13:17] jonnyb any reason not to release 9.2? i don't know of any blockers and it's so much better than 9.1 in many respects i think it's ready to go (when you are)
[13:17] jonnyb would be more like: svn cleanup brakes
[13:18] changi jonnyb: just waiting for a go to release 9.2
[13:18] changi jonnyb: i'm switching all next* to 10.x
[13:20] jonnyb super, thanks changi
[13:20] jonnyb is sf.net better today? was poorly all yesterday, poor thing!
[13:21] changi jonnyb: yes it's working now
[13:21] jonnyb trying a left over from yesterday morning...
[13:21] changi jonnyb: i was having trouble for 8 hours yesterday
[13:21] jonnyb looks good, no error
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[13:22] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Also some colour fixes for fivealive - other themes are functional but could be prettier
[13:22] jonnyb changi: did you make this new KGB bot? (is very nice, thanks!)
[13:23] changi jonnyb: yes it's me
[13:23] jonnyb re 9.2 - i don't see anything here that looks like a blocker: http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+9x
[13:24] changi jonnyb: it's based on a opensource tool available in Debian
[13:24] changi jonnyb: so 9.2 in 10 minutes :)
[13:24] jonnyb where are you getting the data for that feed from? i looked around when CIA went away and couldn't find much
[13:24] jonnyb Allez changi! :)
[13:25] changi jonnyb: the local repos sync from sf.net (the same i gave you when you came in strasbourg)
[13:26] jonnyb ah right, yes mine broke and i couldn't repair it :(
[13:26] * jonnyb really should try and understand irc properly one day
[13:26] jonnyb ok, i'm going to go and lie in the road for a little while (oh joy!), will be back soon to test some tarballs...
[13:26] changi jonnyb: about CIA, yesterday when sf.net was out, i was thinking giving access to this repos as a fallback
[13:27] jonnyb hmmm, read only presumably?
[13:27] changi jonnyb: yes
[13:27] jonnyb not a bad idea - something like svnbackup.tiki.org
[13:27] changi jonnyb: yes
[13:28] changi jonnyb: will drop that in the idea box :)
[13:28] jonnyb or as part of code.t.o maybe
[13:28] jonnyb +1 form me
[13:28] changi sth like code.tiki.org/svnro/
[13:28] jonnyb yy
[13:29] jonnyb bbl
[13:29] changi jonnyb: see ya
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[13:34] changi ricks99: >> There were already some commits for the same final version number in the changelog. Merging them with the new ones.
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[13:34] changi >> Changelog updated with 32 new commits (revision 43601 to 43310), excluding duplicates, merges and release-related commits.
[13:34] changi ricks99: >> Retrieved members list from Sourceforge.
[13:34] changi >> Copyrights updated: +3 contributor(s), +294 commit(s)
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[13:38] changi sf.net is so slow to send email today
[13:44] marclaporte changi: yes, popular for packaging and site switching :-)
[13:46] marclaporte changi: any idea on next.tiki.org htpasswd login loop?
[13:50] changi maybe because xmlrpc is blocked by the htpass
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[13:58] * changi uploading 9.2 compressed file on sf.net
[14:00] changi marclaporte: 9.2 is published :)
[14:05] Bsfez png
[14:05] Bsfez Hi changi, didn't see your "ping" just sent you an email ;)
[14:07] changi Bsfez: about what ?
[14:08] Bsfez Alpha schedule (and overall), packaging and updating tw website (we are setting a list), check predoog server… the usual for a release ;)
[14:09] changi didn't receive that email for now
[14:14] Bsfez was sent at changi67@users.sourceforge.net
[14:15] changi Bsfez: use changi@tiki.org
[14:15] changi Bsfez: sf.net is a little bit slow those days
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[14:15] arildb There is a pretty serious encoding problem in Tiki 10 using the CkEditor. I made a report at http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+10x.
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[14:20] Bsfez ok resending
[14:21] * ricks99 glad to see Bsfez taking charge of Tiki 10
[14:21] ricks99 Do we want to test 9.2 for a day or two before annoucement?
[14:23] Bsfez tks Rick
[14:25] changi ricks99: i think, simply testing the tarball is enough for me
[14:25] * ricks99 downloading now
[14:25] ricks99 changi: thanks for 9.2 info ^^^
[14:27] changi ricks99: no problem, my pleasure
[14:29] changi Bsfez: i have a thursday release facility, so if we could just switch from monday to thursday
[14:30] changi Bsfez: all next * are now on tiki10
[14:42] arildb Bsfez: I like the classification on http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+10x, but is 2 section needed for "data loss" (data loss and partial data loss). The distinction is not great. SO, maybe only one section to simplify?
[14:43] Bsfez changi: ok so Alpha release is 29/10. For the switch we have to formalise a list. We need some to stay 6lts and 9lts, most will go 10
[14:44] ricks99 +1
[14:45] Bsfez arildb: Mmm… I feel also the description is confusing. It has been done that way for a good reason i guess, let me check that and i will clarify the description. tks for the head up !
[14:47] ricks99 my 9.2LTS installation went smooth as silk. kudos to all
[14:47] Bsfez ricks99: good feedback i should have some switch in the coming hours
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[14:51] Bsfez repost; changi: ok so Alpha release is 29/10. For the switch we have to formalise a list. We need some to stay 6lts and 9lts, most will go 10
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[14:52] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: users_list module in tiki 8.1? - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45461
[14:52] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: multilang - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45456
[14:52] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Advamced DB operations (Create Table, Update, etc) in Tiki 9.1? - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45453
[14:56] Bsfez Do we have somewhere a list of all the Tiki Community websites ?
[14:57] * Bsfez trying to be sure http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki10 "schedule" show them all
[15:02] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: users_list module in tiki 8.1? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45461
[15:02] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: multilang - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45456
[15:02] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Advamced DB operations (Create Table, Update, etc) in Tiki 9.1? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45453
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[15:10] changi Bsfez: http://tiki.org/Domains
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[15:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [KIL] We need to add a security fix
[15:22] Bsfez Great !
[15:22] Bsfez changi: tks
[15:29] jonnyb is anyone else seeing 10.x totally broken with jison parser enabled i get Fatal error: Class 'JisonParser_Wiki_Link' not found
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[15:34] changi jonnyb: same issue on nextparserdev.tiki.org
[15:34] jonnyb stroppy email for RobertPlummer on it's way
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[15:36] mehul hii expert..
[15:37] mehul i have problem with permission.. other user only show one menu in tikiwiki 9
[15:37] mehul so how to change permission..
[15:37] mehul ?
[15:38] mehul Error is You do not have permission to view this page.
[15:39] ricks99 mehul: check your group permissiosn for the user in question.
[15:39] ricks99 see docs for details: http://doc.tiki.org/permissions
[15:39] jonnyb tiki-objectpermissions.php
[15:40] mehul i want to give default permission. so how can i do it ?
[15:41] ricks99 simply select which permission to grant to the group
[15:42] Bsfez arildb__: FYI, i have merged the 2 table look alike in Regressions in 10. :)
[15:43] ricks99 you might find this primer helpful: http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/Configuring+Group+Permissions
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[16:00] mehul ricks99 i have change group permission.. still showing only one menu in tiki page.
[16:00] mehul and also show Error You do not have permission to view this page.
[16:02] ricks99 are you using category or object level permissions?
[16:02] ricks99 they will override the default group permission
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[16:11] mehul can u tell me jst path of permission
[16:11] mehul i have try to many option
[16:11] mehul i m using tiki 9.1
[16:11] jonnyb mehul: permissions are managed on this page: tiki-objectpermissions.php
[16:12] mehul i have create IT Group
[16:12] mehul this group member login him id.. that time showing error Error You do not have permission to view this page.
[16:13] mehul so how can change this group permission..
[16:13] ricks99 Does the IT GROUP (or any group it inherits) include the permission to read wiki pages?
[16:13] mehul i have many group created.. but it group member not showing tikiwiki page..
[16:14] mehul i given it group to inherits with subadmins
[16:14] mehul but still not showing
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[16:15] ricks99 does the page belong to a category? what are the category permissions?
[16:16] mehul its showing 146
[16:16] mehul permission
[16:16] ricks99 ?
[16:17] ricks99 if you assign object- or category-specific permissions, they will override the group permission. see docs for details
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[16:19] mehul Ricks: i have taken backup before.. so now u tell me jst with file i will replace with current file..
[16:19] mehul so it working like before..
[16:22] ricks99 sorry, i don't understand. you want to restore a db backup?
[16:24] mehul no bro.. i jst reset my whole permission
[16:25] ricks99 on the object permission page, there's an option to remove all custom permisssion and use the default group perm
[16:26] ricks99 pls see docs for details
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[17:22] Bsfez sry if i miss something, TW 9.2 is official and good for download ? (http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki_9.x_Herbig_Haro/9.2/)
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[17:23] jonnyb looks like it could be Bsfez - changi seems to have fallen off irc
[17:23] jonnyb hi mlaporte
[17:24] ricks99 Bsfez: believe there was a security fix that needed to go quickly
[17:24] jonnyb looks like the new files aren't uploaded yet
[17:25] jonnyb Bsfez: that "create page in default categ if user doesn't have global tiki_p_edit" thing looks quite tricky - and i can't even see how it's being done in 6.x
[17:26] jonnyb because the page object hasn't been created yet, it can't be categorised, so can't be checked... catch 22
[17:31] Bsfez yes (sry)
[17:32] Bsfez let me check something about the code
[17:36] jonnyb by the way, the group with the defcat on needs to be the users default group for it to have any chance of working, by the look of the code
[17:36] Bsfez at line 201 there is a check about "!$tikilib->user_has_perm_on_object"
[17:37] jonnyb yes,, and because the object doesn't exist at that stage it checks the global perms
[17:38] jonnyb this probably also affects all tiki objects - blog posts, articles etc (maybe)
[17:39] Bsfez exact… the regression is in all that's why i suggest that the fix should be somewhere in tikilib
[17:40] Bsfez anyway, we have case where tw "guess" some parameters prior creating the page (like lang).
[17:41] Bsfez we also declare (in admingroup) that created object by a member of this group should be categorized as : xxxx
[17:41] Bsfez i'm no coder and i'm sure u understand better than i, but we need a kind of rule that say:
[17:41] jonnyb think we'll need LPH for that one i'm afraid - don't want to go making holes in there (Perms)
[17:42] Bsfez on new object creation by a user of group xxx category of the object is yyy THIS set before the editing/save step.
[17:42] Bsfez i undertsand
[17:44] Bsfez i have seen quit heavy code about this on tw6 and tw9… it should be (my guess as noob) simplifyed as the rule i just wrote.
[17:44] jonnyb yes, but perms are checked way before the object is created
[17:44] jonnyb hmm, not sure perms have really changed that much since 6.x
[17:45] Bsfez Right, but same, we already know way before the object is created what category will be assigned.
[17:47] Bsfez and it keep some logic… there is no reason a user could see tools to create a page (button, structure, ?) if in anyway he can perform such. :)
[17:47] Bsfez actually and we saw it, i can create an object, but not edit/save… a little fony.
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[17:49] jonnyb arildb: looks like the wysiwyg issue you found on demo.t.o must be something involving the {include} plugin, right? probably not recommended ;)
[17:50] arildb jonnyb: I think it may be a more general issue when plugins are involved. I haven't been able to pin point it yet. Still have the test case on demo now
[17:50] jonnyb i've been messing with http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=encoding+test+2 but haven't managed to break it yet
[17:51] arildb I have seen several encoding issues, but no pattern yet...except plugins seem to be involved
[17:52] jonnyb include seems to break wysiwyg - i'll add it to the don't-render plugins list
[17:52] arildb ok...meaning that the include plugin won't be supported in wysiwyg?
[17:56] arildb jonnyb: One thing I have seen fail is a ... inside a DIV pluigin, which floats right. In such cases I have seen the anchor tag get corrupted several times
[17:58] coaboa polom: how can I have an anonymous survey and protect it via recaptcha?
[17:58] jonnyb looks like someone has sort of disabled ck_editor rendering - nice!
[17:58] jonnyb hey coaboa - long time no see!
[17:58] jonnyb no idea re surveys, sorry
[17:59] coaboa hi jonny: sorry wasn't on tiki for a while. poiesipedia decided to work on an own cms and to continue withou me, but that my fault.
[18:00] coaboa ok
[18:00] jonnyb shame, you ok?
[18:00] coaboa yes getting better. Up and running again ;-)
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[18:02] jonnyb gutli gut!
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[18:21] RobertPlummer polom all
[18:21] Bsfez Hi
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[18:28] arildb jonnyb: I think I got the bug replicated on http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=encoding+test+2
[18:28] arildb Steps..
[18:29] jonnyb hopefully i fixed it in r43652
[18:29] arildb 1) Create the DIV plugin floating right with an HTML anchor tag inside it.
[18:29] arildb 29 Save the page
[18:29] arildb 3) Edit again
[18:29] arildb 4) Add a box plugin
[18:29] arildb >> anchor tag is corrupted
[18:30] arildb jonnyb: ok. Let's hope it's a fix
[18:30] jonnyb that might be a different thing - adding the include plugin was messing up the parser options...
[18:31] jonnyb i'll try this thing (locally)
[18:31] arildb If you fix only applied to the include plugin, this is different
[18:32] arildb step 5) should be Save the page again
[18:35] jonnyb is this in html mode? not in "visual wiki" mode (wysiwyg_htmltowiki)
[18:35] arildb cheditor, html mode
[18:36] arildb s/cheditor/ckeditor
[18:36] jonnyb if it's html, why are you using wiki plugins to make divs? (just wondering)
[18:37] arildb I don't think the parser allows styling of html divs
[18:38] jonnyb it should leave html alone, it's whether ckeditor does what you want i guess - there probably are some other tools for divs etc that could be enabled
[18:39] arildb could be, but this is valid syntax and it should work
[18:39] jonnyb just found on called box
[18:40] arildb My feeling is that this is a "general" plugin error, and it's not related explicitly to the box plugin.
[18:40] jonnyb when you say "DIV plugin floating right with an HTML anchor tag inside it" you type the html into the plugin edit form you mean? like or something?
[18:41] arildb e.g. use yahoo.com
[18:42] jonnyb hmm, all the html gets encoded - this is a wiki plugin, so probably doesn't want html inside it
[18:42] arildb This time I typed the HTML in directly. However, on existing sites all links are in HTML format (I believe). In html mode all links are converted to html syntax (or it used to be so)
[18:42] jonnyb seems ok once saved though (somehow)
[18:43] arildb you have to resave to trigger the error
[18:43] arildb Add a new plugin and resave
[18:43] arildb does that work?
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[18:44] jonnyb after adding 2nd box plugin the link html is now html encoded (showing on the page)
[18:44] arildb so, you got it duplicated
[18:45] jonnyb if you use wiki syntax for the link [http://www.yahoo.com/m] it seems ok
[18:45] arildb I have upgraded a couple of sites to Tiki 10 (to take advantage of the new features). This bug is corrupting some of the data
[18:46] jonnyb from 9?
[18:46] arildb yes, wiki syntax seems to work. I am not sure if it still is auto-converted to html links once saved
[18:46] arildb upgraded from 8
[18:46] jonnyb the convertions should only happen when switching from wiki to html/wysiwyg
[18:47] jonnyb ah, is it ok in 9?
[18:47] arildb didn't work that way before. All links were converted
[18:47] arildb not sure about 9
[18:48] arildb I did the include plugin test on 9, and that worked OK there
[18:48] jonnyb yes, recent parser regressions
[18:48] arildb seems like it
[18:48] jonnyb but also lots of html entity/parser disruptions during 9.0 release
[18:51] arildb I have been using Tiki 8 (only) until recently. I haven't tested 9 that much
[19:13] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: russian for not admin users - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=13&comments_parentId=45462
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[19:19] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Again so sorry about that file not being included.
[19:20] jonnyb hi RobertPlummer - np, sorry about my intemperate email too ;)
[19:20] RobertPlummer jonnyb: The file did commit, because LP looked at it, yet sourceforge went down just as I was committing it. When I svn upped last night the file was not in the commit, I did an svn up and the file disappeared, so I have no idea what happened.
[19:20] RobertPlummer jonnyb: svn commit --half
[19:20] RobertPlummer lol :)
[19:20] jonnyb sf seems lots better today
[19:21] jonnyb but i still got a couple of odd errors
[19:21] RobertPlummer Or perhaps it was this file that brought sf down?
[19:21] RobertPlummer jk
[19:21] RobertPlummer Any errors related to my code?
[19:21] jonnyb while you're there, could you cast an eye over http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=43652&view=rev just in case there might be unintended consequences (please)?
[19:22] RobertPlummer looking
[19:22] arildb jonnyb: I confirm you fix to the include plugin works well. thanks
[19:22] jonnyb super, just hope it doesn't break anything else!
[19:23] RobertPlummer jonnyb: The set options on the old parser and new are different beasts. The old parser is somewhat static. The new one is OO, so the options are inherited, and can be changed when needed.
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[19:24] arildb RobertPlummer: Does that mean that if a plugin alters the parser options, these new settings will be applied to the following plugins parsed?
[19:25] RobertPlummer arildb: Yup
[19:25] arildb ok
[19:25] RobertPlummer arildb: In plugins we really should do:
[19:25] RobertPlummer new Parser();
[19:25] RobertPlummer and when done using it, unset(Parser);
[19:27] arildb To me that seems like an undesirable effect....that parser setitings travel across plugin boarders (and given that they can be altered indie plugins)
[19:28] arildb s/indie/inside
[19:31] arildb RobertPlummer: Is this new "inherited options" taken advantage of in anyway currently?
[19:32] coaboa How can I disable the forums "discuss" button for a specific page?
[19:33] arildb If new Parser() and then unset(Parser) should be called for each plugin, is it possible to integrate this in the plugin-calling framework, so the plugin author doesn't have to recall it.
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[19:36] RobertPlummer arildb: In the new parser it is.
[19:37] RobertPlummer arildb: $this->parse() detects if there is an active parse, and if so instantiates another parser, parses, and then unsets it, while the parser is parsing.
[19:37] RobertPlummer arildb: It would be possible in the old parser, but it may not act like you think it might, it is a hairy mess to start changing around.
[19:38] RobertPlummer arildb: There is a reason why a new parser is being built.
[19:39] arildb RobertPlummer: by new parser, I assume you mean the jison parser. That is not enabled in the site I am testing on.
[19:40] RobertPlummer arildb: Right.
[19:45] arildb jonnyb: You commented that the fix enabling of large file imports perhaps should be backported to Tiki 10 (and possibly Tiki 9). I can do the backport, but best if somebody can verify the fix first
[19:45] arildb i.e. the batch update fix(es)
[19:46] fabricius polom
[19:46] jonnyb arildb: will try to sometime, but running out of day at the moment
[19:46] jonnyb hi fabricius
[19:46] fabricius jonnyb sry, had to work unexpectely (hate all day working at free days)
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[19:49] fabricius coaboa: I would maybe think about category permissions ... or css-option
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[19:56] coaboa not unfortunetelly not (the forum doesn't appear in obj perms and the category perms doesnt make the discuss button go away.
[19:56] coaboa so I added a page_id css rule
[19:56] coaboa but thats no good for noob users ;-)
[19:57] coaboa theme fivealive by the way and most recent 9.x
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[20:11] fabricius coaboa: I am not aware of a noob solution for this wish
[20:11] fabricius coaboa: but why a noob would have to do such configurations?
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[20:24] coaboa In my case : having the minichat on a wiki page and do not want to have the discuss button on this (and other static) pages
[20:24] coaboa hi changi
[20:26] coaboa with all other buttons/wiki features it works. Soi think there is a forum/discussion related perm check prob with either the wiki feature or the template
[20:27] fabricius coaboa: but then it is not important, if the configuration is noobish or advanced ... you do it yourself and you are advanced
[20:27] fabricius coaboa: maybe make it in css and use a category and theme configuration
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[20:28] fabricius coaboa: so you can apply this to arbitrary pages with a noob workflow (simple apply a category
[20:28] coaboa wasn't meant to serious sorry for being indifferent. and I have solved it by modify the css .button class for the specific page
[20:29] coaboa and as I mentioned befor category perms make all other buttons go away as expected
[20:29] coaboa but *not* the discuss button
[20:29] fabricius so you did it with css - per page base is good ... category later would be easy ... so solved, nice one
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[20:30] fabricius not category perms, theme conrol by category ... that's different
[20:30] fabricius just an enhancement of your actual solution, in case youj need id for more than one page
[20:31] fabricius , in case you need it for more than one page
[20:31] fabricius sry typo
[20:31] coaboa I know that but I had to make the thing go away in "real time" ;-)
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[20:38] changi repolom
[20:38] changi sorry didn't have internet connection
[20:39] fabricius hi changi
[20:39] fabricius np
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[20:47] * changi just upload tiki 6.8, the security release
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[21:21] arildb jonnyb: I tested the batch upload fix on a Debian installation. It worked fine there too. Should I backport to 10 (and 9?) ?
[21:23] arildb Bsfez: should I backport?
[21:33] arildb I went ahead and backportet to 10
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[21:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Doing so will break normal PHP memory limits for large files, e.g. CD/DVD images.
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[21:36] jonnyb sry arildb - busy packing & have to go out, will try & test another time
[21:37] arildb jonnyb: ok. My Linux test passed. So, I think it should be ok
[21:39] jonnyb ok , thanks
[21:39] jonnyb bibi
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[22:32] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Removal of deprecated feature
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[23:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43669 10branches/10.x/lib/core/ 10(6 files in 3 dirs)
[23:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] But more a fix, the specialCharacter processor gets its own handler type, and ckeditor gets one to, so it can override. As of this point WYSIWYG displays correctly in the JisonParser, WOOHOO!
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[23:32] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] no parse seems not to be needed
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[23:34] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] a couple scope issues
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