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greetings again! i'm fairly sure i'm not going to ask a silly question this time, having done my reading homework and poked around a bit more... ...but it is still not clear to me if i could do this... wiki... a wiki... how deep can the rabbit hole goooooooo *echo* | [00:05] |
| marclaporte1 | hehe
what's on your mind? | [00:10] |
| booksilent | hi again marc!
so, i'm visualizing this functionality whereby the average 'viewer' sees the finished site, like a normal wikified site and they may also notice a 'tab' of some kind that, if clicked on, will allow them to vote on their preferred 'statements'... the most popular statements being strung together to form the initial 'front-end' article but then, if they were given more permissions, they would notice yet another tab, going deeper into the editorial process, to add their own statements and the such but even still!... | [00:13] |
| marclaporte1 | Is this a good word for what you have in mind? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliberation | [00:17] |
| booksilent | another tab, which (skipping a few steps here) allows them to edit how the whole editorial process works thus far
so... editing the way it edits recursion, again, i'm afraid xD but yes, deliberation would be a part of the process... i've read a little now on the possibilities of voting, which actually inspired this deeper editing process | [00:17] |
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| booksilent | love how you can deliberate on something in some hidden 'for your eyes only' area, and publish when ready
having a powerful data collection and storage feature is also awesome... and compatibility with Firebird! love it! | [00:25] |
| marclaporte1 | Compatibility with Firebird? | [00:35] |
| booksilent | sure, i read that somewhere... it was just an aside ^_^
i have a feeling i've got a lot of work ahead of me would you recommend buying the Guide for Smarties?... does this in any way fund the project? Or just line the authors pockets? | [00:36] |
| panamaus | The hardcopy Tiki for Smarties I have was written back in the era of 6.x and seemed pretty outdated when I bought it a year ago. It didn't even include a single mention of trackers | [00:41] |
| booksilent | ah ha, thanks for the heads up! | [00:42] |
| panamaus | I found it only marginally more useful than the outdated documentation on doc.tiki.org, and in some cases not even that | [00:42] |
| booksilent | gotta kinda figure it out for myself... no worries... i've tried gaming on linux... i can use google ;) | [00:43] |
| panamaus | It was handy to have as offline reference. And it let me jumpstart when I was a noobie without being around my computer. So there's that. | [00:44] |
| booksilent | the free online resource should suffice... i like books if they're, you know... not doorstops xD
smartphone ftw is what you made available to have a look at? out of curiosity | [00:45] |
| marclaporte1 | booksilent: go ahead and buy both Smarties guides
panamaus: Trackers is in the other book | [00:51] |
| booksilent | does the money help?
i mean, that's a big motivating factor to get a copy... knowing it part-funds the project | [00:52] |
| marclaporte1 | Well, the author is uber active in the Tiki community
So everyone is happy if he can get some funds to spend more time on Smarties | [00:52] |
| booksilent | indirect funding... i can dig ;) | [00:53] |
| marclaporte1 | and the content is all Creative Commons
So when you buy, it's partly for printing / shipping cost and partly a donation really | [00:53] |
| booksilent | do you know if he has a price for both a hard and digital copy? i can only find one or the other
sorry, i phrased that badly i want to give him money, and he gives me BOTH | [00:53] |
| marclaporte1 | hehe
I dunno the specifics http://tiki.org/Donation is if you want to donate to the association, which covers domain names, server costs, SSL | [00:54] |
| booksilent | i mean, Amazon sells them separately... i don't think capitalism has caught up with digital markets... still | [00:55] |
| marclaporte1 | Can't you put both in your cart? | [00:55] |
| booksilent | ...at extra cost to me, yes
i could scan the book... or print the digital copy... but i'm not insane xD | [00:55] |
| well... i'll read the online one to begin with... need to slowly invest, rather than leap in
got lots to think about, plan, and develop brain babies to give birth to (besides working and shiat) speaking of which, bed time :) thanks for your help ^_^ | [01:03] | |
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| fabricius | polom
just came back home from hospital broke my left hand 3 hours ago - bycicle accident - bike still alive! so big luck! tomorrow after a meeting back to hospital - seems that I get a surgery (operation?) 6 weeks fulltime on Tiki then, but only with 5 fingers | [02:27] |
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| marclaporte | your head is intact? | [02:45] |
| fabricius | yes!
helmet i have to correct me ... have 6 fingers so far for the keyboard 5 1/2 imagine: fullspeed and then 2 steel wires across landed on my breast and could barely breath for a few minutes | [02:52] |
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| Jyhem | polom | [03:09] |
| refizul | polom | [03:09] |
| Jyhem | I'm glad the head is OK
fabricius: 5 1/2 fingers are manageable. trust me :) with practice :( | [03:09] |
| refizul | fabricius: hospital? broken hand? OMG? - just reading IRC backlog, and this is not the kind of news I want to hear/read
fabricius: anything we can do? Recommend a software which makes live easier for a one hand person? | [03:10] |
| fabricius | thx, but all has bad and good sites refizul Jyhem marclaporte ... it is all a question of the perspectives feature. Ok, it hurts and I cannot work in the shop for the next few weeks, but on the other hand my timesheet is bloged for the Tiki revamp now
arrgl ... roling cigarettes one handed sucks rolling myb wll spr vcls ... svs typng | [03:14] |
| folding cigarettes now | [03:21] | |
| refizul | no big deal from that point of view
folding cigs - I cannot believe somethg is broken... :-� | [03:25] |
| fabricius | just one night approx ... NOT a comminuted fracture - just straight , but metacarpus (Mittelhand) | [03:28] |
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late evening (for me) poloms all! | [03:29] |
| refizul | hey ricks99 - o/ | [03:31] |
| fabricius | hi ricks99 | [03:31] |
| ricks99 | hiya refizul & fabricius | [03:32] |
| fabricius | ricks99: will be fulltime with Tiki the next 6 weeks | [03:32] |
| ricks99 | congrats! | [03:33] |
| fabricius | ricks99: broken pipe | [03:33] |
| ricks99 | ? | [03:33] |
| fabricius | ricks99: metacarpus fracture left hand | [03:33] |
| ricks99 | ouch | [03:33] |
| fabricius | surgery tomorrow | [03:33] |
| ricks99 | can you type with left hand? ;-) | [03:34] |
| fabricius | i can type with right hand and left plaster cast | [03:35] |
| ricks99 | Q: is there an easy way to test if the current wiki page is in a structure (by name)?
The {$structure} only returns y|n I want to actually test the against the structure Was hoping for something like {if $structure_id eq '1'}.... {/if} but can't find it :( ricks99 thinks everyone is asleep | [03:37] |
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| fabricius | chatting skype
no idea what you want to achive ... being interested | [03:44] |
| ricks99 | Found it! {$home_info.page_ref_id} | [03:46] |
| fabricius | that's structures? | [03:47] |
| ricks99 | $home_info is the array for the structure and page_ref_id is the wiki page ID for the start/name of the structure | [03:48] |
| fabricius | ah yes
what you want to do with it? | [03:49] |
| ricks99 | need to test for specific struture. Want to conditionalize CSS | [03:50] |
| fabricius | ahhh interesting!!! | [03:50] |
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| marclaporte | polom
ricks99: where did you find {$home_info.page_ref_id} ? Smarty debug? | [04:40] |
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New install 9.2: States I need cookies enabled. Have them installed. Normal glitch out of the box? Thanx | [04:47] |
| marclaporte | FCPD: tks for reporting
I see this very rarely, but have never been able to pinpoint why | [04:49] |
| FCPD | sure i deleted and will reinstall. i did have a space in the folder name so maybe thats why
long time no chat im the train guy still poking around with the software and still like it ;) appreciate all you folks do! | [04:50] |
| marclaporte | :-)
I rememeber the stories! | [04:52] |
| FCPD | removed the space and works fine maybe that's a lead | [04:53] |
| ricks99 | @Marc: yup. in debug | [04:53] |
| marclaporte | FCPD: We have made dramatic progress on maps
ricks99: I am glad we moved that debug to a more obvious place :-) | [04:53] |
| ricks99 | me too :) | [04:54] |
| FCPD | that's why i came a calling! i work for the us government now doing foreclosure work and am wanting to take tiki for a test drive and maybe get some interest on their part
the wiki will be for my company but they are looking for a viable solution under the contract | [04:54] |
| marclaporte | There was this: http://foreclosurepedia.org/ | [04:55] |
| FCPD | thats me
the MW application is not secure enough | [04:55] |
| marclaporte | you'll want to keep track of http://profiles.tiki.org/Cartograf | [04:56] |
| FCPD | i am wanting to take /reo and spin up tw on it
ok noting it now | [04:56] |
| marclaporte | In a nutshell, it's a teaching aid for history and geography for high school teachers
It lets kids make their own maps, add pictures, draw on pictures take snapshots from StreetView... So you could enter a zip code, find the house, grab a picture, draw on the picture and add data about that point | [04:57] |
| FCPD | man, see that's precisely what i'm driving at! | [05:00] |
| marclaporte | ok, go here: http://demo.tiki.org/
take note of username/pass go to http://demo.tiki.org/cartograf | [05:02] |
| FCPD | heading now | [05:03] |
| marclaporte | not much doc yet, but the application is functional | [05:06] |
| FCPD | so is this something that dumps as a profile in the admin section?
on a new install? | [05:06] |
| marclaporte | you could do on an existing install, but since this profile is quite invasive, it's better on a fresh install
You need a Tiki10 What is your timeframe? | [05:07] |
| ricks99 | marclaporte: sent this to u the other day. https://info.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1482 did u want to follow up? | [05:08] |
| FCPD | i'm on a new install. i have a couple of months to tinker around. i am trying to push open source w/HUD as to date everything has been W*ndows and miserable | [05:08] |
| marclaporte | ricks99|away: done, thks | [05:13] |
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| FCPD: more about CartoGraf: http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-10-25,Thu&sel=34#l30 | [05:28] | |
| FCPD | Going there thanx! | [05:28] |
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| kstingel|away | hi marc | [07:01] |
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Hi RobertPlummer plz help for spreasheet function. its not working .. any plugin require install for it ? ??? ??? | [07:52] |
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| fidel_ | hi - why is digest mode disabled in the devel mailinglist?
i mean - digest is somehow very helpful disturbing-wise ;) | [09:26] |
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| i upgrade my tikiwiki from 6 to 9.1,,,,,,,,after upgrade my tiki spreadsheet is not working.[11:53] ravi_ when click on particular speradsheet form list............it redirect to particular page like :- domainname.com/tiki-view_sheets.php?sheetId=146 but page blank | [11:51] | |
| arildb | ravi_: Try to look at the Net tab in Firebug (if you have that installed). It can show what failed | [12:01] |
| ravi_ | it show like :- GET tiki-view_sheets.php?sheetId=146..........500 Internal Server Error | [12:06] |
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| arildb | ravi_: check you permissions setting, is your .htaccess file updated? | [12:13] |
| ravi_ | let's check it | [12:14] |
| in upgrade tikiwiki 6 to 9.1.it's require to rename _htaccess to .htaccess? | [12:19] | |
| arildb | copy, not ername
s/ername/rename | [12:21] |
| ravi_ | means?
copy .htaccess file from old version to new version? | [12:23] |
| arildb | no, copy the new _htaccess to .htaccess (assuming you don't have any htaccess modifications...and running Apache) | [12:28] |
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| ravi_ | try it but not succeed | [12:42] |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r43690 10branches/10.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Header.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Avoid using header level 0 | [13:26] |
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| ravi_ | how to change font-family for whole tikiwiki site? | [14:26] |
| marclaporte | http://doc.tiki.org/Google+Web+Fonts | [14:30] |
| ricks99 | See docs: http://doc.tiki.org/Look+and+Feel | [14:33] |
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| arildb | I am working on a Survey tracker, which contains 3 item types header, text field and text area. I see that the header description is loaded into the web page, but then hidden. How can I make the tracker header items display the description in the input form? | [16:48] |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03jyhem r43691 10trunk/ 10(5 files in 4 dirs)
tikiwiki [NEW] Feature to prevent multiple simultaneous logins with the same account (useful when customers pay for access) | [19:16] |
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| tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43692 10branches/10.x/templates/trackerinput/files.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] elfinder: Sometimes (?) the field options come back as an empty string instead of 0, so test (thanks marclaporte) | [19:34] | |
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| Topic | for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - The Free and Open Source Web Application with the most built-in features - Tiki 6.8 and 9.2 are out! Question? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log) | [21:39] |
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