[00:37] refizul Are tracker's categories related or the same as Tiki categories?
[01:01] refizul I start to understand... but the desription is very misleading
[01:04] refizul damn - it works! :-)
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[02:03] luciash refizul: yes, same
[02:11] marclaporte1 polom
[02:11] luciash hi marc
[02:19] refizul luciash: finally, I made it somehow - don't understand everything yet, but it works.
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[03:41] crocket Should I ignore directives written in the assumption that Clean URL is not enabled?
[03:47] crocket marclaporte1, Do I need HTTP_AUTHORIZATION for CGI scripts?
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[03:55] marclaporte crocket: no
[03:55] marclaporte ignore cgi
[04:02] marclaporte crocket: normally, I do two things rename _htaccess to .htaccess an activate the checkbox in the admin panel. If the server accepts .htaccess, then it's done
[04:35] crocket marclaporte, Do I need "RewriteRule ^calendar$ tiki-calendar.php [L]" even with Clean URL turned on in tiki?
[04:39] crocket If the Clean URL option can't be applied to input rewrite rules, then I don't need it.
[04:39] crocket oops
[04:39] crocket If the Clean URL option can't be applied to input rewrite rules, then I still need it.
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[04:40] crocket marclaporte, Do I still have to manually rewrite clean input URLs to PHP urls?
[04:40] crocket I guess PHP isn't capable of handling clean input URLs.
[04:41] marclaporte I don't understand the question
[04:42] crocket marclaporte, Do I need "RewriteRule ^calendar$ tiki-calendar.php [L]" even with Clean URL turned on in tiki?
[04:42] marclaporte yes, you do
[04:42] crocket ok
[04:43] crocket Then I need all those rules in _htaccess after turning on clean URL feature.
[04:43] crocket It seems I would just symlink .htaccess to _htaccess.
[04:43] marclaporte remember to review this when you upgrade as _htaccess evolves
[04:43] crocket I don't want to maintain _htaccess myself.
[04:43] marclaporte yes, symlink is the best
[04:43] marclaporte Tiki will try to make a symlink
[04:47] crocket marclaporte, when does it try?
[04:51] crocket oh
[04:51] crocket It's alrady made.
[04:53] crocket marclaporte, Do I manually write "RewriteRule ^/+$ /tiki" in httpd.conf?
[04:53] crocket I want to make tiki the default page.
[05:02] crocket [R=301]
[05:05] crocket I put RewriteRule ^/*$ /tiki [R=301] in httpd.conf, and now the root page redirects to tiki.
[05:45] crocket marclaporte, I installed php5-imagick on debian, but tiki doesn't recognize imagemagick.
[05:52] marclaporte try tiki-check.php
[05:57] crocket "Image Magick 	Available 	Array.fitness good "
[05:57] crocket marclaporte, ^^
[06:04] crocket character_set_server 	latin1 	Array.fitness ugly
[06:24] crocket I solved that problem.
[06:24] crocket marclaporte, "Can't reliably determine, if your upload_tmp_dir is accessible via a web browser. To make sure you should check your webserver config."
[06:32] crocket What does that mean?
[06:47] crocket I can't turn off allow_url_fopen via either php.ini or .htaccess
[06:55] crocket How do I remove tiki logo?
[07:00] crocket marclaporte, busy?
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[07:38] kstingel looking at /trunk/lib/init/initlib.php, just noticed (what I assume is) a typo on ln: 56 (within comment) -- "Copes with Windows premissions" ... should that read "... permissions"? Don't want to make the edit if it's not a typo :-)
[07:42] marclaporte can't imagine it's not a typo
[07:42] marclaporte crocket: back
[07:44] marclaporte tiki-admin.php -> search for logo, and you should find "Logo source (image path):" and you can empty that
[07:59] crocket marclaporte, ok... I think it was a theme problem.
[07:59] crocket A certain theme doesn't respect logo image setting without login cookie.
[08:00] crocket marclaporte, Do you know how to make a div vertically centered in a div?
[08:00] crocket The logo is aligend at the top.
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[08:18] crocket How do I download themes?
[08:42] crocket ok I downloaded themes.
[08:43] crocket I deleted Site Title, and it is deleted in a login session.
[08:43] crocket But without a login session, the deleted site title is displayed.
[08:43] crocket Is it related to cache?
[08:43] crocket tiki cache?
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[08:50] dibu Hi, I need some help with tiki wiki and the code highlighter geshi. For Html it works fine, but for java code only Strings are highlighted. The demo on the geshi website works fine for java too. Any ideas?
[08:54] dibu In the plugin options dialog java could not selected in the "colors" dropdown select box
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[09:03] kstingel silly Subversion question time biggrin ... does it matter which client version I'm running? (1.6 vs 1.7)
[09:03] kstingel ... would hate to break TIki by using wrong SVN client
[09:43] crocket How do I clear any installed profile?
[09:43] crocket I want to clear it
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[10:19] crocket How do I put a line break in a box?
[10:26] crocket %%%
[10:26] crocket WYSIWYG editor is buggy.
[10:27] marclaporte crocket: http://profiles.tiki.org/Profile+Rollback
[10:27] marclaporte crocket: it's fragile, yes
[10:28] marclaporte Try WYSIWYG that saves in wiki syntax
[10:28] marclaporte Can you demonstrate bug on http://demo.tiki.org/?
[10:29] marclaporte crocket: will you be using your wiki for bug reporting or documentation?
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[13:26] crocket I'm so sad.
[13:28] crocket marclaporte is not in this channel now.
[13:28] jonnyb 2nd poloms
[13:28] jonnyb cheer up crocket - he does sleep occasionally ;)
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[13:55] crocket How do I change the main page?
[14:02] crocket Is it safe to turn on Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG?
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[14:24] jonnyb bbl
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[14:45] ricks99 polom y'all
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[14:53] Bsfez Rick ?
[14:53] Bsfez ricks99: ? :)
[14:54] ricks99 boker tov Bsfez
[14:54] Bsfez tsorayim tovim :)
[14:55] ricks99 :)
[14:56] Bsfez A propos theme, any chance you check : http://avtalyon.org.il/10x.html/ if the syntax look ok, i'll work on sprites, i'll do a browsers check and zou !
[14:56] ricks99 took a fast glance the other day. looks good. will do a more detailed view today
[14:56] crocket I"m so hot.
[14:58] Bsfez Yes plz, tks Rick. btw i sent a mail in favor of theme team and adding them...
[14:58] * ricks99 thinks mods could potentially be "ressurected" as a themes marketplace
[14:59] Bsfez agree
[14:59] Bsfez we won't have to insert all theme in Tiki (never understood that) and people will select what they need.
[15:00] ricks99 Q for you: how are you handling the border-radius for IE?
[15:01] ricks99 or just leave it sqared?
[15:02] Bsfez … aye...
[15:03] ricks99 oh... and if you add a div around the carousel with overlfoww:none; tiki won't show all the images upon first loading the page
[15:05] Bsfez phone 2sec
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[15:19] kstingel does anyone know who's managing the design (Themes) team?
[15:21] kstingel I just want to get some info on which TPL files I need to look at to decompile an empty page structure ...
[15:21] ricks99 is it listed on tiki.org/teams ?
[15:21] kstingel I'm trying to put together a Theming help page :-)
[15:22] kstingel ricks99: not sure, I didn't know where to look -- thanks
[15:23] ricks99 yw
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[15:35] kstingel ricks99 & dhazel: polom
[15:36] dhazel kstingel: ?
[15:42] kstingel looking around the walls, the room looks full ... but it appears everyone is napping
[15:56] luciash polom
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[15:57] luciash crocket: if it is marked experimental it can cause issues - so not 100% save
[16:00] luciash ricks99: i think better would be profiles kind of repository for themes
[16:01] luciash ricks99: btw, i leave squared, at least they are rounded in IE9 - good enough for me ;-)
[16:02] luciash ricks99: overflow: none is not valid i think; should it be overflow: hidden maybe ?
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[16:03] luciash wb jonnyb
[16:03] jonnyb polom luciash and all
[16:03] ricks99 overflow:hidden i mean, y
[16:04] ricks99 luciash: do profiles allow for attached files?
[16:04] * ricks99 thought profiles only changed db info
[16:11] luciash ricks99: as of now profiles can upload files to file galleries at least so we just need to find best way how to handle this
[16:12] ricks99 y. thats why i suggested mods instead.
[16:13] luciash ricks99: as we do it with cartograf profile now you can download the attached theme and unpack manually - mods are a bit dinosaurus and can cause issues because you need write access on many places
[16:14] ricks99 its the balance between ease-of-use vs. security. i understand
[16:14] luciash yeah
[16:14] * ricks99 thinks asking an end-user to unpack and upload/replace files is asking quite a bit
[16:15] * jonnyb thinks once again "if only all the writable tiki files were in one place!"
[16:15] luciash best would be if profiles system could be somehow extended to allow write access to specified dirs etc.
[16:15] ricks99 +1
[16:15] luciash then we can just pronounce mods as obsolete
[16:16] luciash jonnyb: +10
[16:20] jonnyb would be a good task for a TikiFest (then we can spread the blame for resulting issues!)
[16:21] ricks99 or just continue to blame jonnyb for everything, like i do. ;-)
[16:21] jonnyb :D
[16:24] luciash lol
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[16:34] Guest49478 I am trying to display database query results as links to pdf files. My query returns a table populated with the correct data. How do I format the output as a link?
[16:36] Guest49478 this query - {DBREPORT(db="tiki" wiki="1" debug="1")}SQL {SELECT Fileid,Name FROM tiki_files WHERE description= "EH-151"}{DBREPORT}
[16:36] Guest49478 returns - SQL {SELECT Fileid,Name FROM tiki_files WHERE description= "EH-151"} TABLE :sortable   HEADER :heading     CELL "Fileid"     CELL "Name"   ROW :even :odd     CELL [Fileid]     CELL [Name]
[16:37] ricks99 will probly need to modify the plugin to strip out the <table> elements
[16:38] Guest49478 I get a nice table with headings and data
[16:38] Guest49478 I can get the same report with - {SQL(db=>tiki)}SELECT Fileid,Name FROM tiki_files WHERE description='EH-151'{SQL}
[16:39] Guest49478 if I strip the table elements, how would I format the output as links
[16:40] ricks99 you'll need to hard-code that/include that in the plugin
[16:40] ricks99 think the SQL plugin simply returns the query. any additional formatting (such as link) you'll need to add
[16:41] Guest49478 Thanks
[16:44] ricks99 yw
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[17:33] luciash should i commit the theme first in trunk and then backport to 10.x ?
[17:34] luciash jonnyb: ?
[17:34] jonnyb luciash: no, we're merging to trunk, so commit in 10.x
[17:34] jonnyb http://dev.tiki.org/Where+to+commit#Dashboard
[17:35] luciash ok
[17:35] luciash thx
[17:35] luciash is the ID svn property merged too ?
[17:35] jonnyb yup
[17:35] luciash cool
[17:36] * luciash would like to see the profiles.t.o resemble firefox add-ons site
[17:48] luciash what does jquery code.photoswipe ?
[17:50] jonnyb luciash: it does swipey photo browsing on filegals on mobile (it's pretty good!)
[17:51] jonnyb especially on "pads"
[17:51] jonnyb brbwt
[17:59] luciash great
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[18:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: bug in plugin (Source) in wysiwig  - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45558
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[18:38] Bsfez for the rounded box, once i used behavior: url(nature/PIE.htc) but nowHi sry back only now
[18:39] Bsfez ricks99: LOL msg collision :)
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[18:41] kstingel polom changi
[18:42] kstingel and everyone I missed last time ;)
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[18:44] luciash Bsfez: PIE slows down IE 8 and less terribly, unfortunately
[18:44] luciash hi kstingel
[18:44] Bsfez1 luciash: i'm not using anymore PIE (previously)
[18:44] luciash yep, me neither
[18:44] luciash same experience i think
[18:45] luciash actually all existing solutions (JS/vml) are mostly unusable for real production sites
[18:46] kstingel hi luciash :) ... and Marc, fabricius, mose, Robert ... and the rest of the residents biggrin
[18:47] Bsfez1 kstingel: :)
[18:47] Bsfez1 luciash: any advise about : http://avtalyon.org.il/10x.html/
[18:47] luciash kstingel: i think for the page about theming would be good place on themes.tiki.org
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[18:48] luciash Bsfez1: what kind of advice
[18:49] Bsfez1 taste is always welcome, but about the css, i want to commit this theme
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[18:50] kstingel luciash: eventually, I plan on adding all of my pages to their respective tiki.org sites ... for now I'm writing them all on own site so that I can test as I go and make sure all works as detailed in page(s)
[18:50] kstingel Bsfez1: allow English interpretation?
[18:50] luciash kstingel: that is nice of u
[18:51] luciash Bsfez1: isn't it too specific ?
[18:52] luciash Bsfez1: i would give lot of advice but I am busy with my daily job ;-)
[18:52] kstingel am also using my site (http://tiki.kstingel.com) to debug and validate existing themes
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[18:55] kstingel that site is only running 9.x branch ... but on local server, I'm running 9.x, 10.x + trunk, so I can pick up any (Theme) inconsistancies between Tiki versions
[18:55] jonnyb kstingel: thanks for that project and good luck with it - i didn't know all that stuff about svn exclude, nice one!
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[18:57] luciash kstingel: yup, svn exclude is interesting, i never used it either
[18:57] luciash i use mostly --ignore-externals
[18:57] kstingel I didn't know about it either ... until I tried to replicate my Windows checkout it Ubuntu (without a GUI SVN client)
[18:59] kstingel luciash: that's the next part of the page ... but if I ignore externals on each branch, how does Tiki know where to find it's libraries when I install it on server?
[19:01] kstingel ... do I need to add a mapping into .htaccess in root of install?
[19:01] luciash well, i use it only sometimes for quick svn up
[19:01] luciash from time to time i do full svn up
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[20:11] kstingel I've been 'inspecting' the Tiki pages with a view to the API docs ... most (if not all) of my edits will be to comments only ... should I just commit them (in small batches) to trunk, or should I also cover branches9.x & 10.x?
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[20:30] luciash kstingel: i think someone (jonnyb ?) mentioned u should wait until we are oiut of the 10.x to trunk merge period to avoid conflicts
[20:30] luciash s/oiut/out/
[20:31] luciash then u can commit to trunk, not sure bout the other branches
[20:31] kstingel should I hold off on pre-PHP5.4 fixes too then?
[20:33] kstingel from what I could see, most of those are just a matter of commenting out a line here and there (anything that refers back to PHP's 'safe_mode')
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[21:40] kstingel|away is it just me, or would it make sense to have a /branches/proposals/9.x folder (since that is the current LTS version)
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[23:46] luciash kstingel|away: afaik we are not doing proposals branches anymore as it was not very effective way for the QT to vote and approve/reject every commit