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[00:32] refizul -exec chmod +x
[00:32] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43922 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/functions.inc.php
[00:32] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] perms: Stray dot
[00:33] refizul group +x too?
[00:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43923 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/usecases.bin
[00:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] adjust 'sbox' permissions: g+x
[00:36] refizul Bsfez: 43923 has got +x everywhere
[00:42] Bsfez k checking
[00:47] refizul maybe you need write permission everywhere instead of g+x - this sbox looks a bit strange.
[00:47] refizul you can try: sh setup.sh paranoia-suphp
[00:50] refizul I guess I add 18 more functions independent from the model
[00:53] fabricius Bsfez: hi ... bad time for me tomorrow
[00:53] fabricius Bsfez:  wanna chat today?
[00:56] Bsfez fabricius: 2 am here
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[00:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] permcheck: Catch some errors (posix is really required for this, should be handled better)
[00:56] fabricius np 1 am here
[00:57] fabricius or 7:00 UTCas you suggested?
[00:57] Bsfez refizul: still no good… having it would be nice globally so if you want to solve this i'll be glad to continu testing (tomorrow) but it is not critical to me, i can turn off the sbox.
[00:59] Bsfez fabricius: at 2am i'm not fresh enough for such discussion, beside we need jb (he is following the wysiwyg thing)
[00:59] Bsfez i suggest you reply email so the other can see… Marc is busy tomorrow but we can do without him. Release is the scheduled the 16… 3days
[01:01] fabricius Bsfez: I did reply email straight before I mentioned here
[01:02] fabricius I try to have a chance to get access to internet in the day time
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[01:02] fabricius tonight I have besides other stuff to write an email to lindon, to get away some possible bug in 10 related to blog/category/multiling ... and today two blocker bugs have been sorted ... need to hunt for more
[01:03] refizul Bsfez: all subdirs and all files are +x with 'sh setup.sh sbox' now
[01:04] refizul is it another error message now?
[01:05] Bsfez fabricius: didn't received email about it. The idea is also to inform the others about your availability
[01:06] Bsfez refizul: same error
[01:06] Bsfez Mmm let me check something not sure about my last test
[01:07] Bsfez fabricius: jb just send me an email about being available all day tomorrow
[01:08] fabricius Bsfez: I think I am quitey familiar about they concept of email and I did write it in the minute before I came here ... while you arey busy, obvious that the email might not be there right away ... sorry for confusion
[01:09] fabricius Bsfez: hehe lool actually jbs email is an answer to my email
[01:10] fabricius :-þ
[01:10] Bsfez fabricius: i just recheck, for some reason i didn't receive your email :)
[01:10] Bsfez but let's go on i see it now in jb reply
[01:11] fabricius Bsfez: no problem, but thx anyway for a short description of the email concept :-D
[01:11] fabricius rofl
[01:11] Bsfez gnia gnia gnia :D
[01:11] Bsfez 7am utc sound fine to me
[01:12] fabricius cool ... maybe I will be still awaik ... MUST change my rythm quite soon
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[01:15] Bsfez ok i let jb decide betwen ur 2 windows
[01:16] Bsfez refizul: i have a db error now, look weird, rechecing it all
[01:17] Bsfez fabricius: lol received your email now (2h10)
[01:17] Bsfez dated
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[01:20] Bsfez refizul: maybe it have something to do with  :
[01:21] refizul db error - I hope it is not because of missing write permission
[01:21] Bsfez he way to tell MySQL client is simply to use "127.0.0.1" instead of just "localhost". Unfortunately, many scripting language forces you to specify what is the address of your MySQL server, instead of leaving this as default from the MySQL client library.
[01:21] Bsfez PHP is one of these misbehaving scripting language. So, for example, if you have a phpBB forum, you will have to edit config.php, and change the dbhost variable to use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost.
[01:21] Bsfez Also, each script has to be made executable, as another security measure. As an administrator wishing to switch a site to the sbox_aufs mode, you can do:
[01:21] Bsfez find . -iname '*.php' -exec sed -i "s/localhost/127.0.0.1/" {} \;
[01:22] refizul oh - yes - you cannot use localhost inside sbox
[01:22] refizul this is a MySQL problem
[01:23] refizul MySQL scans for the word 'localhost' and replaces the network connection by a socket connection
[01:24] refizul but inside sbox there is no access to the socket, so you must use network via 127.0.0.1
[01:24] Bsfez so may be the permissions are ok now this localhost thing is the problem ?
[01:24] Bsfez note that i have applied  find . -iname '*.php' -exec sed -i "s/localhost/127.0.0.1/" {} \;
[01:24] refizul yes - with the db this is the problem
[01:25] Bsfez i re apply
[01:25] Bsfez who knows
[01:28] Bsfez refizul: arf i thought it was good :(
[01:28] Bsfez tiki-install load and warn about the lock file on his way. I removed it and reload:
[01:28] Bsfez Syntax error in file: /html/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php
[01:28] Bsfez ADONewConnection: Unable to load database driver ''
[01:28] Bsfez Invalid db object passed to TikiDB constructor
[01:31] refizul hm - looks like a sbox/database problem with adodb connect
[01:31] refizul who is the Tiki db specialist?
[01:31] Bsfez ...
[01:32] refizul I revert permissions on group but a a possibility to enable them with the script
[01:32] refizul but add a possibility
[01:32] luciash Bsfez: on this fresh install u do not have PDO ?
[01:33] Bsfez PDO ?
[01:33] luciash default php compiled in db driver
[01:33] luciash adodb is the old one alternative
[01:34] luciash tried tiki-check ?
[01:34] luciash and php.ini should tell you if u have it
[01:34] refizul Bsfez: is the group of Tiki inside sbox identical to the webserver's owner? like www-data or httpd or nobody?
[01:35] Bsfez yes dtc:dtcgrp
[01:35] luciash i know u r tired tonight, maybe "tomorrow wiser than today"
[01:35] luciash :)
[01:35] Bsfez oh my god, tks Lu i'm fighting to understand what you talk about :D :D :D
[01:36] Bsfez tiki-install.php => the error above
[01:36] Bsfez tiki-check.php show permissions error
[01:36] Bsfez http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-check.php
[01:37] luciash oh, so why not to fix this first ?
[01:37] luciash make the dirs writable by "dtc"
[01:38] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43925 10branches/ 1010.x/setup.sh 1010.x/permissioncheck/usecases.bin
[01:38] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] revert 'sbox' permissions, now g-x, add functions to set/unset several permission bits
[01:38] luciash is that the problem what u struggle all night long with setup.sh here ?
[01:39] Bsfez yes
[01:39] luciash i see
[01:39] refizul I guess what the error might be
[01:39] Bsfez updated and running sh setup.sh sbox
[01:42] Bsfez dr-x-----x   3 dtc  dtcgrp    4096 Nov 13 02:23 admin
[01:42] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc  dtcgrp     599 Nov 13 02:23 antibot.php
[01:42] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc  dtcgrp    3355 Nov 13 02:24 article_image.php
[01:42] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc  dtcgrp     606 Nov 13 02:23 banner_click.php
[01:42] Bsfez ?
[01:43] refizul user and group are not webserver, I think
[01:43] refizul so webserver is 'other' in permission bits
[01:44] refizul try: sh setup.sh opx
[01:44] refizul opx = the same as o+x with chmod
[01:44] refizul try: sh setup.sh opw
[01:44] refizul opx = the same as o+w with chmod
[01:45] Bsfez i try sh setup.sh fix and i can see the website
[01:45] refizul try option sbox, and then option opw
[01:45] Bsfez BUT tiki-install is still no good
[01:45] refizul I guess I know what this is about
[01:46] refizul I just need two confirmations for my guess
[01:46] Bsfez ok
[01:46] Bsfez so i proceed as you just wrote: sbox, and then option opw
[01:46] refizul yes
[01:47] refizul not yet possible to use more than one option/command
[01:50] Bsfez done, it show :
[01:50] Bsfez -r-x----wx   1 dtc dtcgrp    3353 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rss.php
[01:50] Bsfez -r-x----wx   1 dtc dtcgrp    3504 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rss_no_diff.php
[01:50] Bsfez -r-x----wx   1 dtc dtcgrp    2491 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wikiplugin_edit.php
[01:50] Bsfez -r-x----wx   1 dtc dtcgrp   11867 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-xmlrpc_services.ph
[01:50] Bsfez and again:
[01:50] Bsfez Sbox Error
[01:50] Bsfez The http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/sbox/ program encountered an error while processing this request. Please note the time of the error, anything you might have been doing at the time to trigger the problem, and forward the information to this site's Webmaster (mailto:%5Bno%20address%20given%5D).
[01:50] Bsfez is world writable
[01:50] Bsfez sbox version 1.11
[01:50] Bsfez $Id: sbox.c,v 1.8 2007/06/18 14:40:03 thomas Exp $
[01:51] refizul now error: is world writable
[01:52] refizul use option omw -- to revert the write permission
[01:52] Bsfez k
[01:53] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc dtcgrp    2061 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rankings.php
[01:53] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc dtcgrp    3353 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rss.php
[01:53] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc dtcgrp    3504 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rss_no_diff.php
[01:53] refizul show: ls -ld modules/cache/
[01:54] Bsfez root@GPLHost:xen9720201:shocksite/972.apt-proxy>_ /var/www/sites/xxx/subdomains/www/html# ls -ld modules/cache/
[01:54] Bsfez dr-x-----x 3 dtc dtcgrp 4096 Nov 13 02:42 modules/cache/
[01:55] refizul ouch /usr/bin/find modules/cache -type d -exec echo /bin/chmod 701 {} ;
[01:55] refizul there is still a debugging echo
[01:56] refizul so it does not set write perm to user
[01:56] refizul I fix that
[01:56] Bsfez ah :)
[01:58] refizul 43926 up
[01:59] Bsfez updated
[01:59] Bsfez then ?
[01:59] refizul run sbox command
[01:59] Bsfez k
[02:00] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43926 10branches/10.x/setup.sh
[02:00] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] remove debugging 'echo'
[02:00] refizul now this should work
[02:01] Bsfez no no :)
[02:01] Bsfez root@GPLHost:xen9720201:shocksite/972.apt-proxy>_ /var/www/sites/Riki/xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/subdomains/www/html# sh setup.sh sbox
[02:01] Bsfez setup.sh: 577: {FIND}: not found
[02:01] Bsfez setup.sh: 577: {FIND}: not found
[02:01] Bsfez setup.sh: 577: {FIND}: not found
[02:01] Bsfez setup.sh: 577: {FIND}: not found
[02:01] refizul ls -ld modules/cache/ #
[02:02] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc  dtcgrp     606 Nov 13 02:23 banner_click.php
[02:02] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc  dtcgrp    1624 Nov 13 02:23 banner_image.php
[02:02] Bsfez -r-x-----x   1 dtc  dtcgrp    1210 Nov 13 02:23 categorize.php
[02:02] Bsfez drwx-----x 3 dtc dtcgrp 4096 Nov 13 02:42 modules/cache/
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[02:02] refizul I knnow
[02:02] Bsfez ok got a white page on home
[02:03] refizul 43927 up
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[02:03] refizul I deleted one character too much
[02:04] Bsfez up and running sbox
[02:04] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43927 10branches/10.x/setup.sh
[02:04] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] add '$'
[02:06] Bsfez root@GPLHost:xen9720201:shocksite/972.apt-proxy>_ /var/www/sites/Riki/xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/subdomains/www/html# ls -ld modules/cache/ #
[02:06] Bsfez drwx-----x 3 dtc dtcgrp 4096 Nov 13 02:42 modules/cache/
[02:06] refizul user has got write permission
[02:06] refizul Zhats it, I guess
[02:07] refizul Should work now
[02:11] Bsfez white page redoing sbox
[02:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43928 10branches/10.x/setup.sh
[02:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] more single bit settings in setup
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[02:12] refizul white page?
[02:13] Bsfez http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/HomePage
[02:13] refizul I see a Tiki
[02:13] Bsfez ah !
[02:13] refizul This is the default homepage for your Tiki. If you are seeing this page, your installation was successful.
[02:14] Bsfez changing browser
[02:14] fabricius refizul: it is so cool, to have you in the team
[02:14] Bsfez +1
[02:14] refizul fabricius: it's cool to have found the Tiki project
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[02:16] Bsfez ok home is workign
[02:16] Bsfez http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-install.php is not
[02:17] Bsfez ah !
[02:17] Bsfez http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-check.php
[02:17] Bsfez http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-check.php
[02:17] Bsfez MySQL Database Properties
[02:17] Bsfez Property
[02:17] Bsfez Value
[02:17] Bsfez Tiki Fitness
[02:17] Bsfez Explanation
[02:17] Bsfez Version
[02:17] Bsfez 5.1.61-0+squeeze1
[02:17] Bsfez Fatal error: Call to undefined function smarty_function_escape_special_chars() in /html/lib/smarty/libs/plugins/function.html_image.php on line 63
[02:18] Bsfez also http://www.xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-login_scr.php = white page
[02:19] Bsfez refizul: i'm sorry i can't keep up… 3h20 i falling...
[02:19] refizul Bsfez: we are done with it
[02:19] refizul have a good night
[02:19] fabricius n8
[02:19] Bsfez many many many tks for your perseverance  !!!!
[02:19] refizul smarty is not yet my business
[02:20] Bsfez i'll be glad to assist testing tomorrow
[02:20] Bsfez gd nite all
[02:20] refizul gn8
[02:22] refizul either suphp or sbox should work for phpsuexec, I suppose
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[02:24] refizul Debug done - time for party!
[02:25] luatdo hi marc
[02:30] marclaporte1 http://www.cmscritic.com/peoples-choice-winner-for-best-free-cms-is/
[02:31] refizul marclaporte1: YEAH! PARTY!
[02:32] luciash yay !
[02:32] luciash site overload .)
[02:32] refizul tiki.org is experiencing unusually high traffic. Please check back in a few minutes
[02:33] marclaporte1 hahahah
[02:33] luciash price for the winner ;)
[02:38] fabricius shake hands to everybody
[02:38] fabricius we faught - we won
[02:42] refizul ...and now we must handle the masses running in our direction...
[02:42] Tiki|bot Info: Tiki wins People's Choice: Best Free CMS - http://info.tiki.org/article206-Tiki-wins-People-s-Choice-Best-Free-CMS
[02:43] * marclaporte1 looks forward to having more pro-active monitoring of when site is overloaded. Is it too much traffic or code to be improved?
[02:46] refizul hard to say. what are the server capabilities?
[02:47] refizul octocore 10GB/s 32GB RAM? ;-)
[02:47] marclaporte1 yes, something like that
[02:47] refizul or 486 2 Mbit/s 8MB RAM?
[02:48] refizul is there a frontend/backend structure with a reverse proxy?
[02:49] refizul PHP caching? There might be other webserver tuning methods
[02:50] marclaporte1 No https://dev.tiki.org/Reverse+proxy yet
[02:51] refizul I'm running/administrating varnish for a NGO, eats ~50%
[02:52] refizul and this is not optimized
[02:53] marclaporte1 ok, I don't know where bottleneck is, but in the future, changi and the infrastructure team can take a look at this
[02:53] marclaporte1 Maybe we should upgrade info.tiki.org, as I suspect it will make it faster
[02:54] refizul I recommend it. varnish -> frontend Apache -> backend Apache
[02:55] refizul depending on hardware, varnish + 1 apache
[02:57] marclaporte1 Do we need to change anything in the app?
[02:57] refizul no, Tiki stays as is
[02:58] refizul thi is server adminstration voodoo only
[03:00] refizul with backend Apache it takes a 2nd virtual machine - that's all
[03:03] refizul My testtiki is running on this type of installation, 3 VMs:  1) varnish + frontend Apache, 2) backend Apache 3) MySQL
[03:05] refizul so you can change Tiki's Apache configuration at 2) without disturbing other websites in other backends
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[03:17] * ricks99 pops online to congrat the entire Tiki Community on yet another award!
[03:18] refizul ricks99: cheers
[03:18] * refizul has got a dark one with foam
[03:19] * ricks99 drinking a wheat ale :)
[03:19] ricks99 nice to see that we can win... when big three aren't included :)
[03:20] refizul Big three? Oracle, IBM, M$?
[03:20] ricks99 joomla, drupal, wordpress
[03:21] refizul big? two days ago I ran a 'du -sh' over a fresh checkout, ~500MB
[03:22] refizul but they are very popular, indeed
[03:24] ricks99 gotta go, but just wanted to say "job well done" and "thank you" to all :)
[03:24] marclaporte1 ricks99: good job to you rick, you set the groundwork
[03:25] marclaporte1 and then, we jumped for the last mile!
[03:25] ricks99 +1 to all :)
[03:37] refizul I just wanted to ask who to write an article - but this is already done by Rick :-)
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[03:39] marclaporte ahaha, just saw this: http://bsdroid.org/tiki-index.php
[03:40] refizul haha - I rember to have seen this site, but I didn't notice it's powered by Tiki.
[03:47] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4343 - - Fatal error in the tiki directory  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4343
[03:52] refizul This bug is the FAQ bug.
[03:53] refizul see: https://tiki.org/TWR%3A%3Aminor+issues
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[11:23] Nikhar Hi, Suppose I have given a user 'User X' permissions to add or remove members from a group ' Group Y'. Now I login as User X. How do I add or remove members from Group Y?
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[16:54] Bsfez polom
[16:58] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Batch upload zip file contents in sequential order - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45588
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[17:25] fabricius .
[17:26] luciash polom
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[18:42] Bsfez polom
[18:43] luciash hi b
[18:43] Bsfez in 15mn we start a meeting about Tiki 10 at http://live.tiki.org/ (time to make coffee, smoke and a little more ;) )
[18:44] Bsfez hey l
[18:44] luciash yes
[18:44] Bsfez lusiach you'll be there ?
[18:45] Bsfez got things to check i 15mn
[18:46] luciash yep
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[18:54] fabricius ah 19:00 = 18:00 6 min left only
[18:55] fabricius need milk from the shop damned!
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[19:02] Bsfez1 http://live.tiki.org/ we start
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[19:05] Guest7412 hi all - jonnyb here (finally) - still trying to find my freenode password :P
[19:06] Guest7412 Bsfez1: i can probably do skype
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[19:09] Guest7412 hi fabricius - just trying to get logged on properly...
[19:09] Guest7412 brb
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[19:09] luciash hi jonnyb, no bbb possible ?
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[19:14] Bsfez1 jb, you can log on BBB (through web or Skype) ?
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[20:18] Bsfez1 fabricius: here
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[20:29] RobertPlummerMob I've been blacklisted by dev.tiki.org for spam....
[20:29] RobertPlummerMob It knows more about me than I do apparently.
[20:29] RobertPlummerMob Bsfez1: You guys done in live.tiki.org?
[20:30] RobertPlummerMob Sorry running late.
[20:30] fabricius Bsfez: here
[20:31] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: really? should check that
[20:31] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: done in live.t.o, yes
[20:32] fabricius Bernard and me want to chat about jcapture and mybe in general now
[20:32] fabricius Bsfez: here or skype (type or audio?
[20:32] fabricius )
[20:34] RobertPlummerMob Bsfez1: ANything that would involve me?
[20:34] arildb robertPlummerI went through the blacklisting too
[20:36] arildb it was freenode, in my instance
[20:37] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: did not find you in banning list of t.o or in dev.t.o ... you mean the devlist or the website?
[20:38] arildb auto-blacklisting is not nice
[20:40] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: involved not directly, as you fixed the tracker spreadsheet (btw: is that in 9, 10 and trunk ... not that we need to fix again)
[20:40] fabricius RobertPlummerMob  maybe blockers for 9.3 : some with blog and some with map, but we should get it fixed by then -> when you have planned 9.3?
[20:41] Bsfez1 sorry here
[20:41] fabricius arildb I do not see, where you or RobertPlummerMob should be blacklisted inside the community
[20:42] arildb fabricius: just happens sometimes
[20:42] fabricius and arildb I do not see autoblacklisting on our website in that respect (you do not match the parameters ;-) )
[20:42] arildb auto-checks can be good, but can have unpleasant cosequeses
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[20:43] arildb with me it happend with freenode, not tiki
[20:44] jonnyb yay! got my nick back! :)
[20:44] arildb did you loose it?
[20:45] Bsfez1 fabricius: can we talk time is getting a little thing :)
[20:45] jonnyb hi arildb - yes, seemed to
[20:45] jonnyb had to reset password :(
[20:45] arildb jonnyb ...that you!
[20:47] arildb I hear wysiwyg is fixed in 10...I will test son...once I am sober...so tomorrow :-)
[20:48] jonnyb :D
[20:50] fabricius Bsfez: yes sure
[20:51] fabricius I get a coffee and then call you skype, ok?
[20:51] Bsfez1 Well for some reason i can't edit : https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=Tiki10
[20:52] Bsfez1 ok Torsten
[20:52] Bsfez1 it switch the wysiwyg editor (was wiki not so long ago) i select text i want to change but nada… can someone check he has this too ?
[20:55] fabricius rehi
[20:55] fabricius have my coffee
[20:56] fabricius haven't you
[20:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43934 10trunk/lib/ 10(9 files in 4 dirs)
[20:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Some rollback to the way that tables are parsed, broke too many other things
[20:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Took some of the parsing out of handler for links and into the real parser
[20:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Added the test that is failing into the output test, will fix shortly
[21:01] fabricius Bsfez1: I just checked my notes: point is, that I had to convert the swf file from jcapture with the command line tool "ffmpeg" and figured out some parameter ... I just have noted some command, but did not come further, as I had different work then
[21:01] fabricius Bsfez1: when you tried the jcapture, what you did and what happened?
[21:02] fabricius Bsfez1: as far as I figured out, jcapture uses a compressed swf format, that I cannot play on my linux machine (ubuntu 12.04), why I have to convert after saving
[21:03] Bsfez1 ok
[21:03] Bsfez1 i tried once very briefly :)
[21:03] Bsfez1 i don't use
[21:04] fabricius Bsfez1: the other issue is the time-out and there is no control or check, if and when the recording fails or stops before the time ... so if I want to record a lesson, it might work or it might not, which I only can check after saving and converting
[21:05] fabricius Bsfez1: that leads to some time waste, but this seems to be an issue of the jcapture external project developers
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[21:07] fabricius Bsfez1: next is that there are opportunities to configure jcapture - for ex change the encoding to s.th. different than compressed swf (ogg? avi?), but there is no UI for it and not much documentation for it
[21:08] fabricius Bsfez1: so I need an afternoon or so, use it again, find the best workflow and note where I stuck and then try to get in contact with the jcapture devs
[21:09] fabricius Bsfez1: in windows it seems to work fine and simple (maybe apart from the timeout?)
[21:09] fabricius Bsfez1: could you check it on mac pls?
[21:10] Bsfez1 fabricius: about the premature ending… jb suggest memory… may be you could talk about this with the jcapture dev ?
[21:10] Bsfez1 fabricius: yes where u want me to test ?
[21:10] fabricius I will
[21:10] Bsfez1 link
[21:11] RobertPlummerMob lphuberdeau: When I run a unit test on a new system, I get that TIkiLib isn't instantiated.  It has been about 4 months since I've setup phpunit, what do you think?
[21:11] RobertPlummerMob lphuberdeau: vanilla TIki Trunk
[21:12] fabricius ah ... maybe on demo.t.o?
[21:12] Bsfez1 np
[21:13] Bsfez1 set you sample i'll test (i have here Mac and Windows
[21:13] fabricius what you mean with "set you sample"?
[21:14] Bsfez1 set a page with your setting jcapture, perm, whatever
[21:14] fabricius I can record a minute and you try to view ... and you try to record and we both try to view
[21:14] Bsfez1 yes
[21:14] fabricius I check if the feature is active in demo, if not I activate it and tell you ... brb
[21:15] Bsfez1 np
[21:16] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: what do you think, when will be the time that I can switch to jison and wysiwyg-wiki on a semi-productive website? want to test-use it. already there, or still better wait?
[21:20] RobertPlummerMob The jison for rendering pages is stable enough.  There are a few things that are buggy, but for the most part it is ready for testing.
[21:20] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: I use it daily now, as 95% of syntax is handled.
[21:21] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: wysiwyg is not ready though just yet.
[21:21] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: I ran into a small bug today that set me back, but hopefully between today and tomorrow we can get it ironed out.
[21:22] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: As soon as I get past that, I will upload a full database checker, it will cycle through your pages on your database (those who want to test them) and it will convert them to and from wiki syntax, essentially what wysiwyg needs and will send back to tiki.
[21:24] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: THen we just have to worry about sending what the ckeditor parses to the editor and receiving data from it
[21:24] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: And since all the syntax are handled the same, either a wiki tag, or a wiki helper, we just restore the wiki tags, and we are done.
[21:25] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: The development time spent on the new wysiwyg is going to be much less because we are using standards and simple conversion methods rather than a bunch of guess work like the last parser.
[21:25] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: At least that is the hope ;)
[21:26] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: what kind of database you need - do you need actually pages whichare made with the old existing  wysiwyg?
[21:27] Bsfez1 arildb: ?
[21:28] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: wiki syntax, existing pages.
[21:28] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: The goal is to create a data transportation layer with html5 that the wysiwyg editor doesn't know about.
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[21:32] fabricius sorry, jcapture did freeze my pc ... RobertPlummerMob could you pls query me if any text was posted between my last post and now, to be on track? thx
[21:33] fabricius hate it to be thrown out in the middle of a chat
[21:39] fabricius Bsfez1: somehow I cannot resize the applet before I record and I cannot interfere with the applet after recording ... a screenshot I can take and save alright
[21:41] fabricius Bsfez1: ah now
[21:44] Bsfez1 i'm here for 30mn torsten (not everynig at 3am… kids wake up at 6am !!!!!) :D
[21:47] fabricius in a minute you can check my music and voice on demo, if it works
[21:47] fabricius hmm encoding ... maybe hanging
[21:47] Bsfez1 ok
[21:47] fabricius I have png up and a video without sound
[21:47] fabricius the soundcheck video is hanging on encoding sound arrrgl
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[21:55] fabricius Bsfez1: pls check and then your turn: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=4
[21:55] Bsfez1 on my way
[21:56] Bsfez1 hu what you want me to do ?
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[21:58] fabricius RobertPlummer, say, did you answer me between 21:25 and 21:31 (about 25 minutes ago)  ... my pc was freezing and disconnected on a cruel shutoff
[21:58] fabricius Bsfez1: check if you can view the videos
[21:58] fabricius tell me
[21:58] fabricius in the sound video I asked you to do s.th.
[21:58] Bsfez1 k
[22:01] Bsfez1 ff opening http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=3 video ok, sound ugly (can't ear)
[22:01] Bsfez1 mac
[22:03] fabricius can't hear or can barely understand?
[22:03] Bsfez1 can ear noise
[22:04] fabricius ok
[22:04] fabricius can be my setup, but generally it works?
[22:04] Bsfez1 note that i could open the file as flash (not just the player) is on my machine
[22:04] fabricius win?
[22:04] fabricius mac
[22:04] Bsfez1 windows is same file, can't open it
[22:04] fabricius ahh
[22:04] fabricius why?
[22:04] Bsfez1 ff was mac
[22:05] Bsfez1 now it is a second try, win ie9
[22:05] fabricius maybe not or different flash?
[22:05] fabricius I would like different encoding from start
[22:05] Bsfez1 on my Mac i have Flash the program, not only the player or the plugin so the program was used to open the .swf
[22:06] Bsfez1 not sure it is possible to open a .swf directly
[22:06] Bsfez1 should be embedded
[22:13] fabricius any analysis about the outcome yet?
[22:14] fabricius I think it generally works, but very dependant on the local environment - especially to play it
[22:14] fabricius recording seems to work kind of independant from the environment ... what is good
[22:14] fabricius different - opensource - encoding would be better I believe
[22:17] fabricius I cannot play it, but I will try to convert it later on today (after checking the mail to lindon) and then add the conversion command to the doc page
[22:17] fabricius going for a fag now
[22:27] RobertPlummerMob Bsfez1: You were having issues installing tiki?
[22:28] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: The jison for rendering pages is stable enough.  There are a few things that are buggy, but for the most part it is ready for testing.
[22:28] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: I use it daily now, as 95% of syntax is handled. 03:20:54 PM
[22:28] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: wysiwyg is not ready though just yet. 03:21:06 PM
[22:28] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: I ran into a small bug today that set me back, but hopefully between today and tomorrow we can get it ironed out. 03:21:31 PM
[22:28] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: As soon as I get past that, I will upload a full database checker, it will cycle through your pages on your database (those who want to test them) and it will convert them to and from wiki syntax, essentially what wysiwyg needs and will send back to tiki. 03:22:24 PM
[22:28] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: THen we just have to worry about sending what the ckeditor parses to the editor and receiving data from it 03:24:03 PM
[22:29] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: And since all the syntax are handled the same, either a wiki tag, or a wiki helper, we just restore the wiki tags, and we are done. 03:24:51 PM
[22:29] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: The development time spent on the new wysiwyg is going to be much less because we are using standards and simple conversion methods rather than a bunch of guess work like the last parser. 03:25:35 PM
[22:29] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: At least that is the hope
[22:30] Bsfez1 sry i can't be online… just answering
[22:30] Bsfez1 RobertPlummerMob: yes pour it was because i used a box with sbox. Not tiki related.
[22:31] Bsfez1 Btw i'm setting a clean tiki with just a blog, tomorrow i should test wysiwyg/jison
[22:35] Bsfez1 fabricius: sry let's try to check jcapture tomorrow
[22:35] Bsfez1 gd nite all
[22:36] fabricius gn8
[22:38] fabricius thx RobertPlummerMob
[22:43] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: We are going to have so much fun with this new parser.
[22:44] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43935 10trunk/lib/init/smarty.php
[22:44] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] tikilib is not in existence this early on cli, check for existence before calling methods
[22:45] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: yes in specific and having fun with Tiki in general ;-)
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[22:51] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: WOOHOO, just found and fixed the bug with line breaks directly before tables!
[22:54] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Line breaks are the single most pesky syntax of all wiki syntax, I've probably spent 50 hours on them in the new parser, and this signifies (possibly) the last one
[22:55] RobertPlummerMob I love running phpunit and see a big green "OK (tests asserted)"
[22:55] RobertPlummerMob all, ckeditor 4 development in jison wysiwyg development starting up!  Wooohoo!
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43936 10trunk/lib/core/ 10JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php 10JisonParser/Wiki.jison 10JisonParser/Wiki.js 10JisonParser/Wiki.php
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] table would not allow you to have a break directly before it, reason was that tablestack was being checked too late, after table would be lexed, which checked the "\n" for being a block, answer was to check earlier, in the lexer rather than in the handler
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r43937 10branches/10.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-maps.js
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Need to check for the global google object under window to detect if it has been loaded
[23:09] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: congrats and wooohooo
[23:09] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: I see me soon working with a jison based wysiwyg-wiki editor on the two new intranet projects
[23:12] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: => there are one or a few spots, where we haven't yet implemented WYSIWYG => for example in the 'Articles' feature we have WYSIWYG in the articles body textfield, but not in the article header textfield
[23:13] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: => who you think would be the man/woman to get this hole(s) closed? I think it is at least important due to consistency and this is an issue since at least .... several releases
[23:26] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: I'm not sure yet, perhaps we can talk about it?
[23:26] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Guess what I just got running?
[23:26] RobertPlummerMob ckeditr4 + jisonparser in tiki (not committed)
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[23:32] fabricius wooohooo RobertPlummerMob
[23:33] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: you want perhabs to talk about that with me?
[23:35] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: It is loading right now, it'll be awhile before it is rendering and saving and the toolbar is hooked up.
[23:35] RobertPlummerMob I'm login off, gonna go get some food.
[23:35] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Meet me tomorrow afternoon, we will talk about all the wysiwyg you want.
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