[00:07] PrezKennedy joined #tikiwiki [00:11] fabricius refizul: r u there? [00:31] refizul polom [00:32] refizul fabricius: now I am here [00:32] refizul sorry, could not attend at 18:00 UTC because of another meeting [00:37] fabricius is ok [00:45] dennmans left #tikiwiki [00:48] refizul DEL or KIL as svn prefix? dev.t.o says KIL [00:49] refizul I use KIL [00:52] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43938 04branches/10.x/setup-revamp.sh [00:52] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [KIL] setup-revamp.sh is not needed for 10.x beta anymore and it is buggy and fixes are already in setup.sh [01:39] Bsfez1 refizul: ? [01:40] refizul Bsfez1: ? What question? I just asked about svn prefix to remove a file [01:42] Bsfez1 no question yet :D [01:43] Bsfez1 dunno… [REM] ? [01:43] Bsfez1 you have 2mn ? [01:44] refizul sure [01:44] refizul I've got time as long I've got beer :-� [01:44] Bsfez1 I just light a smoke we're good :) [01:45] refizul REM was pre 6.x style [01:45] refizul according to: https://dev.tiki.org/Commit+Code [01:46] Bsfez1 Lu raise question about InnoDb vs MyISAM… it appears that we din't new exactly what is better… just that both work and that it seams that InnoDB use more disk space. You have knowledge about this ? [01:47] refizul yes, a little bit, but not in 2 minutes [01:47] refizul do you have skype or SIP? [01:47] Bsfez1 not for now, we would like to organize a meeting about this. [01:48] Bsfez1 have you use BBB ? live.tiki.org [01:48] refizul short: small projects: do not care, take MyISAM [01:49] refizul BBB: not tested yet [01:49] Bsfez1 ok so if we plan a meeting with several ppl BBB is really good [01:50] refizul short: larger projects: consider InnoDB but tune DB first, ir will not do good purpose without some tuning settngs [01:50] refizul s/ir/it [01:50] Bsfez1 already valuable info ! When u got time try to check when we can do this discussion and i'll invite [01:51] refizul no no - before I say something in a meeting I do need to prepare for that much better than for a short VoIP call [01:52] Bsfez1 ok my skype bernard_sfez but not tonight :D 3am [01:52] Bsfez1 what is your timezone btw ? [01:53] refizul +1 [01:53] Bsfez1 k [01:53] refizul one hour off [01:53] Bsfez1 i'm +2 so tomorrow our afternoon/evening will be cool [01:53] Bsfez1 or any other day [01:54] refizul maybe Wednesday ~2000 [01:54] refizul +/- [01:54] Bsfez1 ok noted ! [01:54] Bsfez1 wed is tomorrow :) [01:55] refizul I need some help with BBB before webinar :-) [01:55] Bsfez1 sure i'll be glad to assist (quit simple) [01:56] refizul yeah - but this flash voodoo never works here (Debian stable) [01:57] Bsfez1 you can use BBB and hook up using skype (some user with linux box do it that way) [01:59] kstingel joined #tikiwiki [02:00] refizul Bsfez1: let's do that tomorrow, I already had a hard meeting some hours ago [02:00] refizul kstingel: hello [02:01] Bsfez1 ok gd nite my friend [02:04] kstingel joined #tikiwiki [02:08] refizul kstingel: hello again [02:08] refizul kstingel: you have got admin issues and questions? [02:09] kstingel no, server questions ... but they can wait until next week, I'm heading out [02:10] fabricius kstingel: refizul is the Frank I mentioned to you and posted him the details we were talking about [02:10] kstingel fabricius: ahh :-) [02:11] refizul fabricius: please let her read her email first :-) [02:12] refizul kstingel: sorry for the sloppy description, admin and server are almost the same from my point of view, if not special Tiki admin [02:16] arildb__ joined #tikiwiki [02:28] kstingel1 joined #tikiwiki [03:09] goj_killedByISP joined #tikiwiki [03:12] luatdo joined #tikiwiki [03:31] kstingel joined #tikiwiki [04:15] kstingel joined #tikiwiki [06:52] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03luciash r43939 10branches/10.x/styles/gradiant.css [06:52] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Gradiant theme - nicer buttons, form fields and H1 titles, some font related fixes and the quickadmin arrow position [06:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03luciash r43940 10branches/ 0310.x/styles/gradiant 0310.x/styles/gradiant/gradiant.png [06:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ADD] Gradiant theme - missing thumbnail [10:22] Nikhar joined #tikiwiki [10:39] Nikhar Hi, following is the code of a profile:- http://pastebin.com/sDppiwQM When groups are created via this profile, the members of the group "Member workspace_name" can not upload files. Am I missing some permission to add? PS:- Kindly forgive me if I am using wrong tiki terminologies. [10:46] rodrigoprimo joined #tikiwiki [12:49] rodrigoprimo joined #tikiwiki [12:49] rodrigoprimo left #tikiwiki [14:05] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [14:23] ricks99 joined #tikiwiki [15:01] radek82 joined #tikiwiki [15:12] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [15:13] jonnyb solid state polom [15:14] changi why solid :) [15:17] jonnyb hi changi - got my ssd's fitted at last! [15:30] changi jonnyb: oh :( [15:31] jonnyb just trying to work out why apache is telling me i don't have permission to access my tiki checkout - it was ok yesterday [15:34] dhazel joined #tikiwiki [16:32] GillesM joined #tikiwiki [16:35] arildb joined #tikiwiki [16:54] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [17:09] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [17:26] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [17:51] Nikhar joined #tikiwiki [17:52] Nikhar Hi, following is the code of a profile:- http://pastebin.com/sDppiwQM When groups are created via this profile, the members of the group "Member workspace_name" can not upload files. Am I missing some permission to add? PS:- Kindly forgive me if I am using wrong tiki terminologies. [18:19] RobertPlummer jonnyb: So you are liking your solid state drives? [18:20] jonnyb nearly - lost 3 hours trying to get apache to behave, that sort of thing :) [18:20] jonnyb but lots quicker at everything, of course [18:21] RobertPlummer nice [18:21] RobertPlummer jonnyb: sudo chown apache:apache /var/www/ -R [18:22] jonnyb if only it was that simple :P [18:22] jonnyb aliases and mac os ACLs involved [18:22] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I got ckeditor 4 running yesterday locally, working on wysiwyg right now :) [18:22] jonnyb but in the end putting all back to how it was and rebooting seems to have worked! :) [18:22] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Oh, right, forgot you are mac [18:23] jonnyb and i tried installing everything this time with macports, which is a bit like apt-get etc on debian - seems good so far (no more manual rebuilding!) [18:24] RobertPlummer jonnyb: permissions are not fun with apache [18:24] RobertPlummer no matter the operating system [18:24] RobertPlummer even worse in IIS [18:24] jonnyb indeed [18:24] jonnyb been a long time since i looked at that one (thankfully) [18:25] RobertPlummer jonnyb: We are wanting to use ckeditor 4 with the new wysiwyg for 2 reasons, it will [18:26] RobertPlummer be html 5, and it simplifies the implementation [18:26] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Do you see any possible way to upgrade the existing wysiwyg to it? [18:26] RobertPlummer jonnyb: If not, can we add a new dir (temporarily) "ckeditor4"? [18:26] jonnyb yes, should be pretty easy [18:26] dennmans joined #tikiwiki [18:26] jonnyb unless they've changed the plugin architecture a lot [18:26] RobertPlummer jonnyb: only problem is that it is beta, not yet stable. I believe they have. [18:27] jonnyb would be ok for trunk i'd have thought [18:27] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I think I would rather either add a new dir called ckeditor4 or rename the existing to "ckeditorlegacy" and add a new one with the contents of 4 called "ckeditor" [18:28] arildb Hi, a syntax question.... the first lines in lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js reads [18:28] arildb var $jq = $, [18:28] arildb $window = $(window) [18:28] arildb $document = $(document); [18:28] arildb Is this correct syntax? [18:29] arildb notice the , endring the first line and no semi-colon on the second row [18:29] RobertPlummer arildb: The point was to make $(document) and $(window) not have to instantiate a new instance of $() each time. Thus removing the possibility of memory leaks. [18:29] RobertPlummer oh, right, the semi-colon should be there, that was something missed by me. [18:30] RobertPlummer should be a comma though. [18:30] arildb RobertPlummer: ok...are you fixing the semi-colon? [18:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: but I want to know what the master would do (I am but a padawan). [18:30] RobertPlummer arildb: I can fix it, we'd need to port all the way back to 8 I think. [18:31] arildb oh [18:31] jonnyb should be a comma after $(document) i think [18:31] jonnyb (and i would indent the 2nd two lines [18:31] jonnyb ) [18:31] jonnyb sorry - after $(window) i mean [18:31] RobertPlummer not after $(document), there is a function call afterwards. [18:32] jonnyb yes, it's the window line needing comma [18:33] RobertPlummer jonnyb, arildb: done, commiting. [18:33] arildb thanks [18:34] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43941 10branches/10.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js [18:34] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki FIX] Indentation and line without comma [18:35] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I will see how easy we can upgrade the existing system to 4, if it isn't easily upgradable, what then? [18:36] RobertPlummer jonnyb: From their website - "Backwards compatibility: The CKEditor 4 JavaScript API has been kept compatible with CKEditor 3. We focused on making the upgrade experience as seamless as possible. Report issues regarding backwards compatibility." [18:36] RobertPlummer Woohoo! [18:36] jonnyb good, cos i wasn't sure what to answer [18:37] jonnyb should just drop straight in then - ha ha ha ha [18:39] arildb I see more strange syntax in tiki-jquery.js ... line 550 (second last line below) ....should have a semi-colon, I believe [18:39] arildb $( function() { [18:39] arildb $("#keepOpenCbx").click(function() { [18:39] arildb if (this.checked) { [18:39] arildb setCookie("fgalKeepOpen", "1"); [18:39] arildb } else { [18:39] arildb setCookie("fgalKeepOpen", ""); [18:39] arildb } [18:39] arildb }) [18:39] arildb var keepopen = getCookie("fgalKeepOpen"); [18:40] jonnyb +1 [18:40] arildb and on line 579, a semi-colong after the function definition. I guess that doesn't matter. [18:41] arildb I will do those fixes [18:41] jonnyb yup, unnecessary [18:41] jonnyb all good fixes, thanks arildb - sometimes things like that breaks js minify [18:41] arildb ok [18:42] RobertPlummer *high fives arildb* [18:45] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I'm going to lock ckeditor in 10 on the revision as of now, then update the third_party. [18:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r43942 10branches/10.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js [18:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] syntax fixes [18:47] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [19:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43943 10branches/10.x/lib [19:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Lock ckeditor on revision 41830 (3.6.3) in prep to upgrade to v4 [19:06] changi joined #tikiwiki [19:07] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [19:14] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I see extra files like *.asp, *_php4.php, *_php5.php, there isn't anything we need to preserve in there is there? [19:14] jonnyb in where? [19:15] RobertPlummer lib/ckeditor [19:15] RobertPlummer sorry to not be clear [19:15] jonnyb it's what comes from ckeditor - it's a third party lib so included in full (except for _source afaicr) [19:16] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Ok, just looked a bit out of place, thanks for clarifying. Do you delete, commit all first, then re-add and commit? [19:17] RobertPlummer That is what I have done in the past mostly just want to make sure it is done right with libs that matter more. [19:17] jonnyb hmm - the externals aren't locked yet on 10.x i think [19:18] RobertPlummer r43943 [19:18] jonnyb you did? (or someone?) [19:18] RobertPlummer I just locked ckeditor, as it is the only one I need to modify. [19:18] RobertPlummer I did [19:21] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I sent you the mail I got from sf.net [19:21] jonnyb i usually merge the new into the old more or less manually (keeping nested dirs, especially the .svn one) removing old files manually, then commit the diff [19:24] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [19:27] jonnyb RobertPlummer: the rev number you locked creditor at looks like a tiki revision, shouldn't it be a creditor number? [19:28] RobertPlummer jonnyb: It is a tiki revision number. [19:28] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I don't think we remote that one from them... [19:28] RobertPlummer https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/third_party/ckeditor [19:28] RobertPlummer we host it for ourselves. [19:28] jonnyb good point - i forgot [19:29] RobertPlummer jonnyb: melding as we speak. [19:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: The more I think about the way the new wysiwyg handles plugins, the more I believe that as long as the plugin is valid html, meaning it has the right open and closing tags to not break the editor, and as long as we can override clicking and editing it's contents, we should be able to list them inline like they were in the old system. [19:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: What were some issues you ran into that prevented you from doing so? [19:31] RobertPlummer jonnyb: In the new system I can initially load the plugin inside any type of element I need, with a data-syntax attr with url encoded plugin. [19:32] jonnyb sorry - not really following that deeply, brain needed elsewhere [19:33] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Should I include the samples directory? [19:33] RobertPlummer lib/ckeditor/samples [19:33] RobertPlummer seem sit was removed from the last [19:35] jonnyb wouldn't think so - you choose [19:36] RobertPlummer *chooses to keep tiki on a diet* [19:38] arildb I just upgraded to the latest Tiki 10 SVN version. Still get the module error when using wysiwyg, i.e. same result as http://tikishow.kstingel.com/10x/tiki-index.php?page=wysiwyg+module+test [19:39] RobertPlummer arildb: So plugins are fine, but modules are not? [19:39] RobertPlummer Sounds right, a double encoding needs to be handled somewhere. [19:40] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [19:42] RobertPlummer arildb: can you confirm? [19:42] GillesM joined #tikiwiki [19:43] arildb_ RobertPlummer: I just my IRC connection briefly [19:43] arildb_ not sure what I should confirm [19:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43944 10third_party/ckeditor/ 10(233 files in 50 dirs) [19:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MOD] Upgrade ckeditor from 3.6.3 to beta 4 [19:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43945 03trunk/doc/devtools/htmlconvert.php [19:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [NEW] Testing tool that opens each page in your database, converts it to CKEditor html and then back to wiki syntax, and then compares them and encoding [19:48] arildb RobertPlummer: interesting tool [19:49] arildb does it assume all pages are in wiki syntax? [19:53] RobertPlummer arildb: :) [19:53] RobertPlummer arildb: Yes, and no [19:53] RobertPlummer arildb: If there is wiki syntax it will be parsed, if there isn't it will leave it alone. [19:53] RobertPlummer arildb: The new parser is intelligent ;) [19:54] arildb :-) [19:54] RobertPlummer arildb: This means that really mixing wiki syntax with html, just html, or just wiki is not really a parser capability anymore, but more a security enhancement. [19:55] arildb ok [19:56] RobertPlummer arildb: That test was one of the biggest reasons why we didn't have much success with the last parser, we needed TONS of real world examples. This test gives us that ability. [19:56] arildb yes [19:58] arildb RobertPlummer: regarding the module error I mentioned above. I lost my IRC connection briefly and may have missed something. Did you take a look at the case? [19:59] RobertPlummer arildb: If you find you use it, and get a ton of false positives, it is most likely "\r" [19:59] RobertPlummer arildb: I didnt look, is it doing the same as plugins before? [20:00] arildb RobertPlummer: the plugins look much better, but not embedded modules [20:00] RobertPlummer arildb: Explain embedded modules... [20:00] RobertPlummer Modules inside plugins? [20:01] arildb RobertPlummer: See http://tikishow.kstingel.com/10x/tiki-index.php?page=wysiwyg+module+test [20:01] arildb you can find the login params at the domain root [20:02] RobertPlummer in, what next? [20:02] arildb not sure I follow you [20:03] RobertPlummer I logged in, do you want me to edit the page? [20:03] RobertPlummer Is that all you want me to do? [20:03] arildb domain root as in http://tikishow.kstingel.com [20:03] RobertPlummer Are you talking about "Plugin execution is pending approval"? [20:04] arildb just get the source actually. If you use that in your local system, do you get the same error...i.e. modules are not displayed [20:04] arildb after approving, the module is not displayed, but prompts: Please choose a module [20:12] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [20:19] fabricius hi, anyone an idea what is this: [20:19] fabricius Fatal error: Call-time pass-by-reference has been removed in /homepages/28/XXXXX/htdocs/YYY/YYY/YYY/groupware/SVN_100_Branch/lib/core/Reports/Manager.php on line 97 [20:19] fabricius directly on saving a wikipage [20:19] jonnyb php 5.4? [20:20] fabricius I just moved the db from one to another ISP [20:20] fabricius ahhhh that's [20:20] fabricius PHP 5.4 beta [20:20] fabricius and not fully implemented [20:20] jonnyb Call-time pass-by-reference has been deprecated for ages (meaning it will go soon) [20:20] fabricius ah what to do? [20:21] fabricius on my old provider with PHP 5.3 it did work perfectly [20:21] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Trunk is now ckeditor 4 with old wysiwyg. [20:21] jonnyb ask RobertPlummer nicely? (aren't Reports your thing?) [20:21] RobertPlummer jonnyb: 1 small fix seems to have done it, looks a little broken [20:22] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43946 10trunk/lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/tikiplugin/plugin.js [20:22] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Put css somewhere rather than inside editor [20:22] RobertPlummer Reports? who, what, where? [20:22] jonnyb nice, will try and check sometime [20:22] fabricius RobertPlummer: looking forward to new wison errr jison-wiki-wysiwyg [20:23] RobertPlummer fabricius: To me it is like the vision I had with spreadsheets... jquery.sheet. [20:24] RobertPlummer fabricius: Many said "It can't me done, not like that...". I said, "There has to be a way". [20:26] fabricius anyway ... maybe I cannot develop and run the site with this ISP on Tiki 10 as long as they do not implement proper PHP 5.3? [20:26] RobertPlummer toolbars are broken in trunk for legacy wysiwyg [20:26] RobertPlummer There is no $().ckeditor(); [20:26] fabricius Or would that be a measure for our devs to prepare for PHP 5.4 when I switch to trunk? [20:28] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [20:28] fabricius so make it new in Tiki 9 -- fix a oiece of code and stay on Tiki 10 -- or go to trunk and help prepare Tiki 11 [20:28] fabricius this website must generally work! but it is not a public site, but an intranet of an ngo made for free [20:29] fabricius /s/oiece/piece [20:29] fabricius RobertPlummer jonnyb what do you suggest? [20:30] RobertPlummer fabricius: If it is a fix, do so in 10, if it requires more, trunk. [20:34] fabricius RobertPlummer: the question for me is, if it is worth to run a soon productive 10er intranet on a not yet fully implemented PHP 5.4 or alternatively go for 9 0r 11 ==> for me alone it should be "easier and smoother" to use 9, whilst I think if it could be a value for the devs to maybe find PHP 5.4 related bugs early [20:34] fabricius jonnyb: upper question to you aswell, sry [20:34] fabricius have to go afk for a few minutes, brb [20:34] RobertPlummer fabricius: For me it has always been easier to use trunk or latest, but it honestly depends on the client. If they must have super stable, I would not even go to 10. Some clients love the flexibility of instant changes (trunk)/ [20:37] sandroandrade joined #tikiwiki [21:06] dennmans joined #tikiwiki [21:09] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [21:13] ricks99 joined #tikiwiki [21:14] ricks99 i thought we had a plugin or module that could generate a list of categories and their children? [21:14] ricks99 does such a beast exist? [21:14] ricks99 or did i imagine it? [21:15] ricks99 the "categories" plugin works, but makes it a menu [21:15] ricks99 i need a simple list [21:15] ricks99 or maybe a non-php menu, fully expanded... [21:19] jonnyb sorry ricks99, doesn't look like it [21:19] jonnyb i have to go - more tomorrow [21:20] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r43947 10trunk/doc/devtools/htmlconvert.php [21:20] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Add statistics to htmlconvert tool [21:21] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [21:32] changi joined #tikiwiki [21:44] marclaporte1 joined #tikiwiki [21:50] RobertPlummer Fond another bug with how jison parser executes plugins, {inline} where always being executed even if they were inside a {PLUGIN()}{PLUGIN}. As soon as I fixed it, took me 30 seconds to fix. MAN I love this new parser! [21:54] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43948 10trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/ 10Wiki.jison 10Wiki.js 10Wiki.php [21:54] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Execution order for inline plugins were not checking if they are inside a plugin, thus breaking wysiwyg syntax as they had already been parsed at time of sending to editor [22:08] ricks99 another question from rick... how to use the Search module and limit results to a specific category? possible? [22:19] marclaporte1 ricks99: with a perspective and category jail, yes [22:23] marclaporte1 ricks99: But I think there is also a way to do just with search [22:24] marclaporte1 ricks99: pref search_show_category_filter is what you want [22:26] ricks99 don't want to actuallyshow the category droplist. [22:27] ricks99 want to hard-code a specific category. [22:27] ricks99 in the same way that i can hard-code a category to be used upon page creation [22:27] * ricks99 digs deeper with search_show_category_filter code [22:32] ricks99 marclaporte1: that pref is for the search results page [22:32] ricks99 :( [22:32] * ricks99 is off to construct an html search form that passes the categId param [22:41] ricks99 woo hoo... success :) [22:43] sandroandrade joined #tikiwiki [22:46] arildb joined #tikiwiki [22:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43949 10trunk/lib/init/smarty.php [22:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] functions and modifiers were turning into null, blowing up tiki [23:20] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43950 10trunk/lib/ 10ckeditor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php 10core/WikiPlugin/Negotiator/CKEditor.php 10smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php [23:20] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Jison wysiwyg gets it's own means of loading ckeditor, partially branched code to make it reusable [23:20] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] how ckeditor loads using CKEDITOR.replace(); rather than $().ckeditor(); [23:56] refizul_ joined #tikiwiki