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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r43999 10trunk/styles/jqui/options/dbldt.css
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03lindonb r44001 10branches/10.x/templates/tiki-show_help.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] Keep footer from overlapping show help in edit view. | [02:38] |
| refizul | and does not seem to be a general PHP size limit
Is there a Tiki special upload limit for 'Edit CSS'? | [02:41] |
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| refizul | the Tiki CSS editor creates CRLF line terminators
and I cannot create larger files than ~5300 bytes | [03:33] |
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| Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4344 - - Edit CSS: several problems - http://dev.tiki.org/item4344 | [04:08] |
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| refizul | it does not seem to be a locales problem UTF vs. ISO | [04:25] |
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| luciash | polom | [04:51] |
| refizul | problem seems to hide in smarty parsing
hi luciash | [04:51] |
| luciash | hi refizul | [04:52] |
| refizul | almost 7h hunting a bug which I cannot reproduce on demo :-/
this is the bug conspiracy maybe I'm just too stupid for those things | [04:53] |
| luciash | wow
what bug | [05:01] |
| refizul | an Edit CSS race condition deletes my CSS file | [05:03] |
| luciash | i see | [05:05] |
| refizul | more precise: it deletes the content, everything is parsed away
if I shorten the file, it works. But other examples allow longer files. I do not see a pattern, I cannot reproduce it on demo, I do not know how to debug this issue, and I ran out of ideas | [05:08] |
| luciash | i wonder if on demo.t.o there is full utf-8 compatible mysql db compared to your localhost | [05:12] |
| refizul | my localhost is not complete utf-8, but I switched that for checking this | [05:13] |
| luciash | i think you would need to compare tiki-check on both sites to have same values to replicate this as closely as posible | [05:14] |
| refizul | there are a lot of *.ini files | [05:20] |
| enough for today - this is a very tricky one | [05:33] | |
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| gour is still waiting for some reply on users list...and in the meantime wonder if 9.2 --> 10.0 is significant upgrade | [11:53] | |
| fabricius | as newbe and in respect on your usecase you should stick to 9.2 LTS, which has all features you need
and you did write a very long detailed mail to the userlist with partially more dev specific questions ... what do you expect? Btw. Ianswere most of those questions already in IRC ... but understand that you want more different opinions | [11:59] |
| gour | fabricius: i wrote practically the same question to typo3-use and it was appropriate...i thought dev is more about devoloping tiki
*developing 'article' in tiki is meant for general content pages, while wikis are for wikis, right? | [12:07] |
| fabricius | yes, but your questions are more detailed, than for the average user ... I do not know if the guys see it appropriate and have time to read and answer the whole thing, as it shows your complete path to Tiki over several stations and you mention not to know, if you even want to try it ... we should do this desicion for you and take the responsibility for it ... it sounds like
I personally found your story interesting but did not answer as I already answere in the list | [12:13] |
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| fabricius | => article is the general cms part, where you have kind of a timeline of articles with topics, types and sure categories - topic and type feature specific whilst category global
categories you use to structure, sort, filter and for userrights | [12:15] |
| gour_ | no, i haven't got it
what is then used for 'general' cms pages like 'list of services', contactus, about etc.? | [12:20] |
| fabricius | => wikipages are not only the wiki, but aswellthe general frame / canvas for all content, when you want to display it in a different than the standart of the feature -> for ex display articles filtered by topics and types displayed in boxes / columns / fields ... you display them in modules and/or wikiplugins arrange on wikipages instead of displaying the timeline | [12:24] |
| gour | thank you | [12:25] |
| fabricius | your last question:
no contact us form is a little extra feature | [12:25] |
| gour | ok, contact is the form, what about semi-static page like aboutus? | [12:26] |
| fabricius | about us is typically a wikipage, as most of the doc.tiki.org and dev.tiki.org pages | [12:26] |
| gour | ok
what about blog holder, i did create blog, but it's not obvious (in comparison with other CMS-es i used/tried) how to get it under e.g. 'blog' page? | [12:26] |
| fabricius | articles would be time relevant things like "tiki6.8 and 9.2 is released now" or "tiki got another award ..."
blog holder? do not understand what you mean | [12:27] |
| gour | as far as my mailing list question, i certainly do not expect others to decide for me or take responsibility...first, it's not possible, second i just need some info about tiki and how it compares with typo3 feature/usage-wise
i used some profile in my installation which did create home/products/contactus/aboutus pages at the top level...moreover i did create a blog and now would like to have it at the toplevel menu as http://tld/blog? | [12:28] |
| tiki is certainly a bit different CMS in its own way
i'll re-install it, but this time using another profile | [12:36] | |
| fabricius | listen gour ... I have to go to the shared house breakfast ... bbl
if you really want to dig deep and look for a community to maybe stay committed, I will tell you more later and answer questions if I can | [12:40] |
| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r44002 10trunk/ 10(5 files in 3 dirs)
tikiwiki [FIX] Fix the all get_faq references. They were not updated when the faq functions were moved out of TikiLib. tikiwiki Ref: http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=4343#content2 | [12:42] |
| fabricius | blog - and article is kind of similar in some respect - you have to check, what suits your needs | [12:42] |
| gour | ok. bon appetit | [12:42] |
| fabricius | c ya later | [12:42] |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03yonixxx r44003 10branches/10.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_files.php
tikiwiki [FIX]Help - Action is shown by default and sort value can be random | [13:48] |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44004 10trunk/lib/ckeditor_tiki/ 03plugins/jisonline/plugin.js 03plugins/jisonline 10wysiwyglib.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Further segregate styles and line handling (new plugin jisonline) of jison and legacy wysiwyg | [16:16] |
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tikiwiki [ENH] jison plugin handler, addition of other variables to handle plugin editing and selection | [17:18] |
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| tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44009 10trunk/lib/ckeditor_tiki/ 03plugins/jisonsource 03plugins/jisonsource/plugin.js 10wysiwyglib.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Added plugin for handling source view, which will eventually call a service that will parse the page in real time to real wiki syntax for the user to edit and then back when they switch to wysiwyg | [18:14] | |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44010 10branches/10.x/lib/userslib.php
tikiwiki [FIX] login: Update lastLogin correctly (waiting <> 'a' does not match NULL sadly - thanks Torsten) | [18:36] |
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polom all | [18:42] |
| arildb | hi robertPlummer
Did you see my email about the jison parser crashing using htmlconvert? | [18:46] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: Yup, working on it now. | [18:48] |
| arildb | :-) | [18:48] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: Found out 2 things already, line and plugin handling, how to tap into ckeditor to mod them. | [18:53] |
| arildb | sounds good | [18:53] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: Little to do with the memory issue, but big help for overall integration.
arildb: For example, not that line breaks are basically solved, no more <p></p> tags everywhere. | [18:53] |
| arildb | good news, but remember old data | [18:56] |
| RobertPlummerMob | old data?
We will have to find a way of parsing the old data so as to look ok with the new.... | [18:57] |
| arildb | wiki pages in html syntax will have the <p>..</p> sequences. Maybe some want them? | [18:58] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: We will make the feature a feature and not a feature that provides the fix.
knowing how line breaks work between parsers is of much more value. | [19:00] |
| arildb | ok...I think I have a good test data set now...so we will see how it works out | [19:01] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: as soon as I get styles connected, wysiwyg will be working, but I chose the hardest things first, like plugins and line breaks.
arildb: Do pages that use <p></p> look much different than those that use <br /> ? | [19:02] |
| arildb | yes, there is more spacing with <p></p> compared to <br/> | [19:04] |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44011 10(63 files in 59 dirs)
tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/10.x 43976 to 44010 tikiwiki Conflicts fixed in tikiwiki lib/tikilib.php | [19:22] |
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| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: Found the problem! | [19:59] |
| arildb | commit, and I will test | [19:59] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: Cleaning up code. | [20:02] |
| arildb | arildb curious how it will work | [20:02] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: One thing to note, it does fail the test, however, in my quick overview, it actually passes. The exception here is line breaks + wyisywg.
I forgot to substr($yytext, 1, -1).... | [20:02] |
| arildb | I have lots of test cases ;-) | [20:03] |
| RobertPlummerMob | If yytext is "<p>" for example, it would check for a valid html tag name called "p>"
because I only did substr($yytext, 1); //tunring <p> into p> | [20:03] |
| arildb | beyond me | [20:04] |
| RobertPlummerMob | We needed to remove the beginning and end
easy fix | [20:04] |
| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44012 10trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Html/Handler.php
tikiwiki [FIX] check for empty and return if no need to parse, remove ">" from end of tag | [20:06] |
| arildb | testing... | [20:06] |
| RobertPlummerMob | back to jison integration...
arildb: Perhaps we can treat the <p></p> tag like a block tag? arildb: The line following <p> doesn't get a break, sort of like <h1-6> tags | [20:06] |
| arildb | Not sure. if you create an explicit wiki page for before and after formats, it's visually possible to check the results.
or maybe not a wiki page. A manually crafted html page will likely be afaster solution ot setup the different cases | [20:08] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: One integration type at a time, I'll go nuts, and go broke. | [20:10] |
| arildb | :) | [20:10] |
| RobertPlummerMob | ok, it looks like <p> is treated like a block element.
Which is good. arildb: I would love if you knew more specifics about the new parser, if you want to talk about it sometime, let me know. arildb: You a coder? | [20:11] |
| arildb | yes I code, but no time to get into the parser at the moment | [20:12] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: No I didn't mean know, but in the future. | [20:13] |
| arildb | right now I don't see it, but nobody knows the future | [20:14] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: Shouldn't be too complex | [20:14] |
| arildb | RobertPlummerMob: The WYSIWYG Sample Page now goes through | [20:17] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: Right, like I said, it fails, but I did a meld on it and it actually passes. | [20:18] |
| arildb | However, I still get a similar (same?) error on another page | [20:18] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: It is just line breaks that are throwing it.
May I have the source? | [20:18] |
| arildb | Here's the error
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 267386880 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 196698 bytes) in D:OpenSourceTikiWikiwwwTikidevlibcoreJisonPar serHtml.php on line 57 Call Stack: 0,0008 126752 1. {main}() D:OpenSourceTikiWikiwwwTikidevdocdevtoolshtmlconvert.php:0 5,5914 21188344 2. tf() D:OpenSourceTikiWikiwwwTikidevdocdevtoolshtmlconvert.php:44 8,0909 24362472 3. JisonParser_Html_Handler->parse() D:OpenSourceTikiWikiwwwTikidevdocdevtoolshtmlconvert.php:14 8,0909 24376328 4. JisonParser_Html->parse() D:OpenSourceTikiWikiwwwTikidevlibcoreJisonParserHtmlHandler.php:101 88,8936 66385432 5. JisonParser_Html->parser_performAction() D:OpenSourceTikiWikiwwwTikidevlibcoreJisonParserHtml.php:253 same or not? sorry I can't give you the source. The page contains lots of internal things, but I will tryto locate what triggers the error | [20:18] |
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| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: can you reproduce with a different page? | [20:21] |
| arildb | will try | [20:21] |
| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44013 10trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Add li to block level | [20:22] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: Chances are what is happening is unput is inserting html back into what is being parsed so it can recover from some sort of error.
arildb: Do you have phpstorm? | [20:23] |
| arildb | I use VS.php (windows) | [20:23] |
| RobertPlummerMob | Likely the offending php is lib/core/JisonParser/Html.php lines 567-580
Keep in mind that is a rendered parser, if you go and change things in there, they will probably be overridden. | [20:24] |
| arildb | I don't think it will be very hard to locate the offending part of the page | [20:25] |
| RobertPlummerMob | You'll want to change the Html.jison
Oh ok, you find what is breaking it, and together we will make this a very strong feature. feature. | [20:25] |
| arildb | prefer if you do that, once I have some test data ready | [20:25] |
| RobertPlummerMob | arildb: sounds fine
arildb: Also, got plugins working with new wysiwyg, they don't have a view, but they do work. | [20:26] |
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| arildb | RobertPlummer: I have located the offending section | [20:47] |
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Does anyone know how to sync Tiki Contacts with mobile devices ? | [21:10] |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r44014 10trunk/doc/devtools/htmlconvert.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Added time statistics to htmlconvert tool | [21:32] |
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arildb: Find the offending syntax? (sorry, was away being dad) | [21:39] |
| arildb | yes I did. Sent you an email | [21:42] |
| RobertPlummerMob | ok
Who did you send it to, I don't see it. | [21:42] |
| arildb | your sourceforge account
did you get it? | [21:43] |
| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r44015 10trunk/doc/devtools/htmlconvert.php
tikiwiki [MOD] Measure actual parse time, instead of other overhead, e.g. displaying the results tikiwiki [ENH] Show reported times in milliseconds | [21:48] |
| arildb | RobertPlummerMob: for htmlconvert it would be nice with a diff tool. So, the differences can be highlighted. This will help distinguish different types of errors. Is there such a text diff call in tiki?
highlighted = displayed after the page analysis. | [21:49] |
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| arildb | RobertPlummer: Did you get the error section I sent you? | [22:06] |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r44016 10trunk/doc/devtools/htmlconvert.php
tikiwiki [MOD] Added check that script is run from a shell tikiwiki [ENH] Added command line arguments -x = exclude content reporting. Makes cleaner reports. tikiwiki [FIX] Time stat report formatting | [22:56] |
| Bsfez | lindonb: Hi | [23:06] |
| lindonb | Bsfez: hi bernard | [23:07] |
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| Bsfez | Hey Lindon tks for your time. :) Yes now the second image at http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-index.php look fine, you changed something ? | [23:08] |
| lindonb | yes, moved the css code you had to the Image Style parameter instead of the Image Block Style parameter
so that the image is being styled instead of a div around the image | [23:10] |
| Bsfez | Oh ok, i didn't saw that one ! :)
img is quite dense :0 | [23:11] |
| lindonb | yes it is, unfortunately
it can do a lot, but not always easy to figure out how | [23:12] |
| Bsfez | btw the first time i open it, i look at the "Sort Mode" dropdown… i didn't see anything about random so i closed it. Later i found the "Gallery ID" option.
About your question "wiki_plugin_file". The options to show (yes/no) any of the fields are available from within the widget BUT "Source". If i want to hide it, i have to hide it global for each file gallery. this is independent from making it work as img for random image. (it is a long time i wanted to get ride of this ! :D) | [23:13] |
| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r44017 10trunk/doc/devtools/htmlconvert.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Improve report readability | [23:18] |
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| Bsfez | lindonb: gd night and tks again | [23:49] |
| lindonb | Bsfez: no problem - will look at the plugin files issue, had to do something else first | [23:50] |
| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r44018 10trunk/doc/devtools/htmlconvert.php
tikiwiki [MOD] A command line switch must be specified. If none are specified, the list of available options are displayed. tikiwiki [ENH] Improved runtime reporting + added more comments | [23:50] |
| Bsfez | lindonb: ok i'll be glad to hep testing, cu. | [23:51] |
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