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[07:13] DonQ Hi. I'm new to Tiki WIki and this is my first time use of irc.  I am looking for a solution to what I am sure will turn out to be quite a simple problem.  I have just installed Tiki Wiki and uploaded my site logo.  However I need to align the logo to the left so it stays within its own section.  I cannot find out ow to do this.  Tried a few things -- all to no avail.  Can anyone help please. Regards
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[08:04] marclaporte DonQ: ever done CSS?
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[09:29] alzoo hi DoinQ, if you come, back, what you are lookking to do is Edit this custom module: MyLogo, in the data section, you specify that the if its centered, left or right justification, that's what I did, hope it helps
[09:35] alzoo Does anyone know where to look/edit to verify/fix the tiki authentication, which does not seem to be working anymore
[09:36] marclaporte1 alzoo:  on tiki.org?
[09:36] alzoo you can enter in the the account & password however as soon as you make any chnages, it states please login....
[09:36] marclaporte1 in which version of Tiki?
[09:37] alzoo I assume I need to be looking in the php section to fix this
[09:37] alzoo v9, I tried to add ldap authentication
[09:38] alzoo I didn't have the the php module installed, so I follow the instrcuctions to add it in, resarted the web server and boom
[09:38] alzoo not even admin could login
[09:39] alzoo what I have done is add anonymous to tiki-p-admin to regain access to the tiki
[09:40] marclaporte1 sneaky
[09:40] alzoo no this is on my private tiki
[09:40] marclaporte1 you can also find the table tiki-prefs and change back LDAP auth
[09:41] alzoo marclaporte1, no this is on my own wiki
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[09:43] alzoo if I remove the anonymous access, I can login however I get permission denied wherever I click and no quick admin or admin modules available.
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[09:59] alzoo if I change the tiki authentication back from tiki & ldap authentication to tiki, do I need to restart the web server?
[10:15] fabricius alzoo: I think that depends on where you did the changes -> in tiki, then cache; on server then restart
[10:18] alzoo when you refer to cache you refer to /var/www/root/temp/cache?
[10:21] alzoo anyway I did all that and I still can't authenticate...
[10:25] alzoo does anyone know what part of the php modules controls the tiki authentication, I assume the link between this and the mysql database is currupted, the login module accepts the password but doesn't accord the permissions
[10:41] fabricius alzoo: I did refer to the tiki cache -> certain cache folderys in the tiki root ... when you interfered on your server I cannot help you easily, cause there are no tiki-standart-procedures for individual changes on specific servers
[10:41] fabricius alzoo: and sry, have to go now ... appointments
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[10:45] alzoo thanks anyway fabricius
[11:00] alzoo anyone else know where to look to fix a broken tiki authentication
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[11:24] arildb I have an installation which stores the gallery files in a directory. Seemingly some files have gotten "lost" in the directory. So, the gallery file point to a non-existing file. Does anybody know if Tiki has a consistancy check for the file gallery?
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[11:39] alzoo sorry arildb, can't help, too new..
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[11:39] arildb nop
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[12:18] alzoo I have tried to reinstall the tiki be renaming the old www directory and copying back the v9 install
[12:19] gour i wonder what CMS did you use before tiki?
[12:20] alzoo the tiki-install.php works, however when I click on install it asks me to very I am the site administrator and then when I enter the details it start s all over again
[12:20] alzoo what is going on!!!!!
[12:20] alzoo all I tired to do is activate ldap authentication.....
[12:31] alzoo F.Y.I
[12:33] alzoo I have managed to successfully recreate a new tiki from the install, I changed the admin password etc.  however I still can not authenticate! it accepts hte login and password and does not log me in
[12:34] alzoo Where does the tiki authentication live on the web server!
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[12:43] arildb alzoo: go here - tiki-login_scr.php
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[12:59] alzoo I can go there and I can assume to be loggin in, I enter the admin login adn password and it does not log me in, it does not say invalid password.
[13:00] alzoo each time I try to do something with the tiki-install.php, it states,  "You are attempting to run the Tiki Installer. For your protection, this installer can be used only by a site administrator. "
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[13:02] alzoo something is majorly corrupted somewhere, I can't even use the tiki-install.php to install a new tiki
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[13:03] alzoo each time I click on install (step 5) it throws up the  You are attempting to run the Tiki Installer. For your protection, this installer can be used only by a site administrator.
[13:03] alzoo and login again and it throws me abck tot he begginig of the install (welcome step 1)
[13:07] jonnyb Polom Off Early, Tomorrow's Saturday
[13:07] jonnyb hi alzoo - still having fun? :)
[13:08] jonnyb sounds like you locked your installer (it's recommended)
[13:08] alzoo yes lots of fun
[13:08] alzoo no I have started afresh from scratch
[13:09] jonnyb this is on 10, or 9?
[13:09] alzoo even with a fresh install into a new direcotry and new db I get his issue..
[13:09] alzoo v9
[13:09] alzoo 9.1 to be precise
[13:09] jonnyb hmm, 9.2 is out (but i don't think will help this issue
[13:10] jonnyb you have ftp or ssh access to the site?
[13:10] alzoo yes
[13:11] alzoo it is defiitely not an issue with the mysal db or tiki install
[13:11] jonnyb check in your /db dir for a file called lock (i think)
[13:12] alzoo I resinstalled a new copy of the tiki, did a manual dump of tiki.sql chnaged the admin password after logining in once and still it would not authenticate me on the new tiki
[13:12] alzoo thanks jonnyb, but passed that.....
[13:13] jonnyb how do yoo mean "did a manual dump of tiki.sql"?
[13:13] alzoo yes
[13:13] jonnyb no, i mean, what do you mean? i do not understand
[13:13] alzoo so I have a brand new tiki and a brand new tiki db and still couldn't login
[13:14] alzoo sorry I folowed this for a manual install as the tiki-install.php was not working for me... http://doc.tiki.org/Manual+Installation
[13:15] alzoo all it says is "Import the content of db/tiki.sql into your database"
[13:17] jonnyb ok, i thought you said something was going wrong on step 5 of the installer
[13:17] jonnyb so you have a database, have you created the db/local.php?
[13:18] alzoo it was, I could not install the new tiki via the tiki-instal.php, so I did it manually
[13:18] jonnyb don't try mixing using the installer and manual installation, it'll get very confused
[13:18] alzoo yes that part was created by the tiki-install.php
[13:18] jonnyb i'm lost now, sorry
[13:18] alzoo ok, I only went to the manual install after step 5 returned to step1
[13:19] alzoo recep
[13:19] alzoo I followed the steps in the tiki-install from 1-5
[13:19] alzoo that worked fine....
[13:20] alzoo in step 5 when I went to click on "install" button, it threw up the "You are attempting to run the Tiki Installer. For your protection, this installer can be used only by a site administrator."
[13:20] alzoo I enter in the username and password and it returns me to step 1
[13:21] alzoo so after that I followed the instrcutions and Import the content of db/tiki.sql into your database
[13:22] alzoo that worked fine.
[13:22] alzoo on the new page, I logged in as admin/admin
[13:22] alzoo it threw up the change password page, I changed it, and was still on the home page
[13:23] alzoo I then typed in tiki-admin.php in the urlm and it said, "you are not logged in"
[13:24] alzoo therefore, regardless of being a new tiki and db, the authentication problem is still there..... reinstalling from scratch as not helped...
[13:24] jonnyb what kind of server is it? which OS i mean?
[13:24] alzoo centos
[13:25] alzoo with LAMP
[13:25] jonnyb hmm, should be pretty standard then
[13:25] alzoo what happened is everything was working fine....
[13:26] alzoo I changed the authentication in the login feature from tiki to tiki and ldap, I entered in what I thought were the correct settings
[13:26] jonnyb ew, right
[13:26] alzoo I then noticed I didn't have the php-ldap moduled installed,
[13:27] alzoo I installed it as per the insrcutions, restarted the wbeserver and boom, lost the ability to authenticate
[13:27] jonnyb i can't see it could remember if you restart totally from scratch - that's only stuff in the database so should forget everything when you reinstall
[13:28] jonnyb sorry, sounds like this is beyond me - ldap is advance admin stuff, i'm just a coder :)
[13:29] alzoo maybe the php-ldap modules has changed something somehwere
[13:29] alzoo or maybe a fresh install doesnt inlcude the php/authenication section...
[13:30] alzoo luckily i have backups of my db, so I will resinstall a new centos server and go from there.....
[13:30] alzoo perhaps with 9.2 this time.. :D
[13:31] jonnyb nah, why not 10.0 beta? :)
[13:32] alzoo hmmm....  can I reimport my 9.1 db abck into a 10.0 beta?
[13:32] alzoo has stable is that one....
[13:33] jonnyb yes, if you can get the installer working it will upgrade an old tiki for you
[13:33] jonnyb there is a shell installer too
[13:33] alzoo anyway I need a break its 13:33 where I am and time to have lunch
[13:33] alzoo ok, will check i t out...
[13:44] jonnyb i go too - bbl
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[14:53] gour is nginx common server for tiki?
[15:01] jonnyb hi gour - coincidentally i was just wondering the same
[15:02] gour heh...good
[15:02] jonnyb apache keeps stealing all my server's RAM, nginx seems like a good option
[15:02] gour i've to do something afk, then i'll put tiki to some testing to check whether it's better option than contao & typo3
[15:02] jonnyb i spotted this page - https://nextdoc.tiki.org/Nginx - not much on it but at least someone's thinking about it! :)
[15:02] gour yeah, apache is eliminated here from the start
[15:03] jonnyb don't know contao, but tiki's way better than typo3 (imho!)
[15:03] gour usually the problem is that many PHP CMS-es abuse mod_rewrite and make it too complex to rewrite .htaccess
[15:03] gour jonnyb: you have tries typo3?
[15:04] gour it's quuite powerful, but also too complex, imho, for the tasks (i need)
[15:04] gour contao is ex typolight
[15:04] jonnyb bits and pieces, as a user - never tried to set one up, admittedly
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[15:05] gour i play(ed) with it, but it eats ram as well...>=256mb is recommended
[15:05] jonnyb one of our German guys has had quite a bit of experience with both - hey, there he is, fabricius, what a nice coincidence!
[15:05] jonnyb fabricius: is tiki better than typo3?
[15:05] jonnyb (sort of silly question really, what does "better" mean here)
[15:05] gour ohh, i already talked to him but do not recall that typo3 was mentioned
[15:05] luciash polom
[15:05] jonnyb polom luciash
[15:06] gour jonnyb: to do the same task with less effort, modest use of resources etc.
[15:06] luciash btw, i think amette hated typo3 pretty much ;)
[15:06] gour jonnyb: contao is nice, but more/only german oriented and, it seems, not so community oriented
[15:06] jonnyb tiki can be moderately greedy with recourses, it depends which bits you switch on
[15:07] jonnyb but 128M is still enough for an average site on apache
[15:07] gour well, for few (3-4 sites) i can use 500mb of memory on the server and php limit is 256mb
[15:07] gour and will use my own nginx instead of apache
[15:08] luciash i would like to try tiki on nginx one day too but someone already tried and failed (dunno if it was only because of the .htaccess)
[15:08] * gour would like to hear some tiki vs typo3 experiences
[15:08] gour that's really bad having, these days, only support for apache
[15:08] luciash did u read TikivsTypo3 ?
[15:08] gour luciash: it's too superficial...
[15:09] jonnyb i'm running about 20 tikis on a 2GB "cloud" server and (since tweaking the apache conf) it's stable and pretty quick
[15:09] jonnyb although they're all low traffic sites mostly
[15:10] jonnyb gour: are you a developer? or admin? or... maybe we could get tiki happy on nginx somehow - i'm keen!
[15:10] gour jonnyb: i can afford for hardware what i already have...kind of semi-VPS (webfaction-like hosting) since i do not want to bother witl full VPS and manage database/mail/etc. servers, keep security things etc.
[15:11] jonnyb let's pick this up later? i have to go for a little while
[15:11] gour jonnyb: i'm in between...there is some .htaccess --> nginx converter online if tiki does not do strange/nasty things with mod_rewrite
[15:11] amette yup, I think Typo3 is close to a vacuum - haven't had a look at it in a long time though
[15:11] jonnyb bbl
[15:11] gour amette: which version you used last?
[15:11] jonnyb well we got tiki running ok on IIS, so nginx should be easy! :)
[15:11] jonnyb hey amette
[15:11] amette puh.... no idea... it was about 6 years ago
[15:11] amette heya jonnyb :)
[15:11] gour amette: there is upcoming 6.x branch and they work on neos based on flow mbc
[15:11] jonnyb gottagoforawhile, more later
[15:11] gour *mvc
[15:12] amette I found it way too rigid
[15:12] luciash amette: hi bro
[15:12] gour bye jonnyb
[15:12] amette ah, gour - that sounds like an improvement
[15:12] amette luciash: ahoj bracho :)
[15:12] luciash amette: kiitos veli
[15:12] amette :)
[15:12] gour amette: yes, but it' still way too complex...to tweak templates/extensions etc.
[15:13] amette yup, and they will break with every upgrade you do of the core engine
[15:13] gour amette: how long you're with tiki?
[15:13] amette it's an often stressed advantage of Tiki - which I only got to appreciate correctly once I had to work with Typo3
[15:13] amette I think seven years now
[15:14] gour ohh...then you must ve very happy with tiki ;)
[15:14] amette way happier than with Typo3 for sure ;)
[15:14] gour amette: i wrote few days ago on users list, but didn't get much reply...explaining about my 'history' and future 'plans'
[15:16] gour shortly...looking for a decent CMS i can settle on which is mature, actively developed and not too complicated to convert themes to native ones, plenty of features and approachable development...some i18n support for my lang as well not to always start translating from the scratch
[15:18] amette I think that you are quite close with Tiki, expecially with the i18n support
[15:19] gour is it easy to e.g. use YAML (or some other like bootstrap) css layout amd convert it to the native tiki one?
[15:21] amette there are no special tools for that yet, but using some framework (especially bootstrap) was discussed at TikiFest Barcelona some months ago - no idea what the current status on that is
[15:21] amette luciash might know more on that
[15:22] gour what about converting a general html/css/js template?
[15:42] amette manual work, but I fear you won't get around that with any CMS engine
[15:48] gour does not matter it's manual, but in typo3 using even templavoila or new extbase/fluid is more complex than i expect it to be...atm i use concrete5, which is quite good for that
[15:49] gour what to speak about 'old ways' in typo3 :-/
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[22:23] * gour just installed 10.0beta and wonders if some core devs or rick (author of those tiki books) are visiting this place
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[23:08] gour i've decided to gave up on typo3, eliminated contao and will use tiki
[23:09] gour now, considering that 10.0 is (probably) close - i did install beta on my server, i wonder if it bring some important changes to tiki which would influence value of rick's 'tiki books'?
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