[00:00] gour getting late here...so i'm going --> sleep [00:01] gour 'night [00:24] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03sylvieg r44066 10trunk/ 10tiki-my_tiki.php 10templates/tiki-my_tiki.tpl [00:24] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH]display also the blogposts in my tiki [01:18] jacmoe joined #tikiwiki [01:23] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [02:25] Phoebus joined #tikiwiki [02:25] Phoebus joined #tikiwiki [03:09] goj_killedByISP joined #tikiwiki [03:30] refizul polom [03:33] * refizul starts to dance... nested virtualization works! [03:35] refizul this is the matrix in the matrix [03:40] jacmoe joined #tikiwiki [04:54] marclaporte refizul: lost in the Matrix? or it's more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inception ? 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However, new ideas are always cropping up :-) [21:01] gour what is with the support for disqus comments? i saw 'em on rick's site, but cannot find any reference? moreover, i'm curious what is general consensus amongst tiki users in regard to pro/cons of using disqus? [21:02] gour btw, i read several 'philosophical' pages in the docs (model, etc.), some like 'collaboration vs cooperation' and wonder why i didn't discover tiki earlier :-/ [21:02] marclaporte well, you are here now [21:03] gour indeed...feeling good ;) [21:03] marclaporte For Disqus: just catch Rick when he comes to add recipe [21:03] gour i asked him when commenting on his blog, but he, somehow, skipped that part :-) [21:04] marclaporte hahahahah [21:04] marclaporte Maybe just do view source [21:04] gour mysql/mariadb are the focus now? when playing with django/web2py i was seriously consider to move to postgresql...even using it with bacula backup for some time [21:05] marclaporte We tried for several years to support PG, but there was more interest than code [21:05] marclaporte So it's categorized in the "unrealistic goal" section for now [21:06] marclaporte But: as part of Tiki7 tracker revamp, support for alternate storage was introduced [21:06] marclaporte So you could store tracker data in Mongo for example [21:07] marclaporte tracker data is the only place where data needs can really become very very big [21:08] gour i agree it's better to state mysql/mariadb-only, instead of advertising multi-db support and then reading blog posts "why i don't support postgres" from core dev [21:08] gour otoh, i prefer rdbms over no-sql :-) [21:09] gour and hopefully maria will get into official debian at one point of time [21:10] marclaporte There could also be some work to support cloud DBs like SQL_Azure [21:11] gour nice, but i like to keep stuff closer to me :-) [21:11] marclaporte hehe, me too, but it depends on the project [21:11] gour what do you think about some new css framework (instead of *lite) or the status of tiki-theming in general? [21:11] * gour nods [21:12] marclaporte Azure stuff is cool because there are a lot of services (DB, CDN, etc.) [21:13] marclaporte for theming: next step is to hold a 7-10 day TikiFest in Montreal to revamp it all [21:13] gour Azure is windows stuff? [21:13] gour when it's going to happen? [21:14] marclaporte Yes, Azure is Microsoft [21:14] marclaporte http://tiki.org/TikiFest+Design+Revamp [21:14] marclaporte no planned date [21:14] gour any eta? [21:15] gour ahh, found it... [21:15] gour Just after Tiki12 LTS... [21:15] marclaporte would make sense just after Tiki12, so we can deprecate a bunch of themes (and people who want/need them can stay on Tiki12 LTS for 3.5 years) [21:16] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44072 10trunk/ 10templates/object/infobox/trackeritem.tpl 10lib/core/Services/Object/Controller.php [21:16] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MOD] infobox: Change to divs mode default (discuss) [21:16] gour i won't be there on that fest...for sure :-) [21:16] gour it's a bit far from here [21:17] gour and tiki12 is one year ahead which means we have to use the present technology and make best of it... [21:18] gour that's ok...yesterday i stumbled upon "Content the Once and Future King" :-) [21:20] gour i haven't done much with Tiki so far, installed 9.2 & 10.0beta, played a bit, read more about it, went quickly thorugh Smarties...and i'm very impressed...congrats to the founder, yourself and all the people pushing it forward [21:21] gour i also much prefer tiki's business model in comparison with concrete5 where one single and a bit useful add-on costs $s and one has to buy stuff for each project one uses it [21:21] gour it's better to work & support tiki for the general benefit [21:21] marclaporte gour: you have a lot of time to prepare your trip :-) And we'll likely see you in a TikiFest in Europe then. We should have one in France or UK soon. [21:22] marclaporte thanks for the kind words. Founder is long-retired but he started something great :-) [21:22] gour not to mention that latest Pro Blog for C5 did complete mess with my site making it almost unusable for ~1month until its dev (3rd party) finally reproduced the bug (archives showing last 3 instead of 15 months) [21:23] gour is founder still using it? [21:23] marclaporte no [21:23] marclaporte He was active only about 1 year [21:23] gour ahh...too bad he could not experience in full what the project is all about ;) [21:24] marclaporte hehe, I still hope he comes back one day :-) [21:24] marclaporte Yeah, I prefer business model around services than code, because you can't have collaboration around commercial plugins [21:25] marclaporte The Tiki license (LGPL) is lenient here, and some people did try a long time ago, but other developers would just redo as FOSS code :-) [21:25] gour as far as VCS in tiki which you mentioned yesterday, i'm not sure i'm thrilled with the idea...bzr is dead, hg is not the quickest always which leaves us with (D)VCS-es in C (git, svn, fossil)...even monotone in c++ was too slow [21:26] gour i fully agree and consider it's more noble to 'sell' services [21:30] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [21:34] marclaporte For VCS in Tiki: I am not entertaining to eventually dogfood for main Tiki code base (That would be nuts) This is just for very small projects/communities that are already using Tiki and have 10-20-30 files to manage. And mostly to have web-based commits and to replace sending patches via email. And it's to avoid the overhead of setting up another system, and dealing with hosting/logins, etc. So maintaining a Tiki theme for example. [21:39] gour marclaporte: hmm...now i got it...fossil could be great for such stuff - see this thread http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.fossil-scm.user/10374 [21:45] arildb__ joined #tikiwiki [21:55] marclaporte gour: http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast is going to be a little revolution in our bug tracker [21:55] marclaporte gour: I like the single file aspect of Fossil [21:56] gour marclaporte: you're really driving fast this tiki-car [21:56] gour me too..Fossil is very capable & powerful dvcs although quite easy to use for non-savvy users...unlike git [21:57] * gour like fossi'l simplicity [21:58] gour the best dvcs which i used was(is) darcs with very simple model not requiring to think a lot how it works, but one can just use it...however, it had its own haskell-related problems, but after it, fossil is the best tool, imho [21:58] gour and richard hipp, as author of sqlite3, is one to be trusted [22:02] marclaporte interesting [22:02] marclaporte bbl [22:14] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [22:28] marclaporte gour: interesting: http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/08/UnQL [22:31] gour marclaporte: yeah, i read it...he also works on sqlite4 [22:31] gour http://www.sqlite.org/src4/doc/trunk/www/design.wiki [22:43] changi joined #tikiwiki [22:55] * gour --> sleep after managing to install mariadb on his wheezy... 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