[00:01] jonnyb changi: been trying debugging search/shell.php but not getting anywhere - too tired i think [00:01] jonnyb +1 hour for you though [00:20] changi jonnyb: still there ? [00:20] jonnyb just about [00:20] changi jonnyb: found it, dddddddddddddaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddddddddddd parser [00:20] changi :) [00:20] jonnyb :D [00:23] jacmoe joined #tikiwiki [00:24] changi my dirty fix : + if (preg_match('/{REDIRECT/', $this->value)) [00:24] changi + return ""; [00:24] changi Alias is broken in parser so lucene cannot index it [00:25] changi i think i read something about that on the mailing list last week [00:26] changi jonnyb: i wish sometime to find a bug which is not related to the parser :) [00:26] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [00:27] jonnyb most alias tests seem ok for me in 10.x - examples? [00:27] changi jonnyb: when i exlude page which containt {REDIRECT plugin it's working [00:27] jonnyb actually via email pls - needs to sleep now [00:29] jonnyb sounds like {redirect} needs seem sort of "if not indexing" check [00:29] changi jonnyb: need to sleep too [00:30] jonnyb more tomorrow then, thanks for your efforts :) [00:30] jonnyb nn [01:20] refizul database down? dev/doc [01:21] changi refizul: yes refresh in progress [01:23] changi refizul: back online [01:46] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [01:52] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [01:57] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: wkhtmltopdf on windows - tiki 9.2 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45611 [02:16] arildb__ joined #tikiwiki [02:39] arildb joined #tikiwiki [02:46] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [03:08] goj_killedByISP joined #tikiwiki [03:12] jacmoe joined #tikiwiki [03:13] luatdo joined #tikiwiki [04:18] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [05:09] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [06:09] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [07:50] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [08:18] gour joined #tikiwiki [08:53] dennmans joined #tikiwiki [08:56] kstingel joined #tikiwiki [08:57] kstingel quick suggestion for the API Doc generation ... [09:00] kstingel would it be worth adding phpDocumentor2 to the third_party tools, then we could use a custom "phpdoc.xml" config file to create the API Docs under /docs/api ... then admins could create the docs (locally) if they want them [09:36] rinnan left #tikiwiki [09:39] rinnan joined #tikiwiki [10:09] jacmoe joined #tikiwiki [10:12] Bsfez polom [10:13] luciash hi Bsfez [10:13] luciash do u get dev list messages twice too ? [10:13] Bsfez Hello Luciash, tks for your feedback, yes pdf prob was server config [10:13] Bsfez i don;t get double messages [10:14] luciash ok, must be only me [10:15] Bsfez i guess some other would have talked about it. [10:29] arildb joined #tikiwiki [10:42] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4346 - - Uploading files into a file gallery fails from within a tracker with files larger than approx. 600 kByte - http://dev.tiki.org/item4346 [10:58] arildb joined #tikiwiki [11:12] redflo joined #tikiwiki [11:13] kstingel joined #tikiwiki [11:44] Jyhem_laptop joined #tikiwiki [12:07] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [12:08] xavi joined #tikiwiki [12:09] xavi polom [12:12] rodrigoprimo joined #tikiwiki [12:16] jonnyb hey xavi - long time no polom! :) [12:16] xavi hey jonnyb, yes :-) [12:16] jonnyb rodrigoprimo too - hi all [12:17] rodrigoprimo hi jonnyb and xavi! [12:17] xavi in my case, some people using Tiki for a few years, are getting desperate because of the onlie traffic (100Gb) apparently due to ovearload in tiki forums.... [12:17] xavi hi rodrigoprimo :-) [12:18] xavi and they are considering to migrate away from Tiki :-/ .... [12:18] xavi they are using 6.4 on shared hosting... and looking for lightweight forums... [12:19] jonnyb xavi: this is what the guy was asking about yesterday [12:19] xavi I couldn't look at the data myself... (I don't even know if we have the data to see the bandwitdh partitioned in some way to identify the source of overconsumption....) [12:19] jonnyb are the forums full of huge images or video or something? [12:19] xavi yes... that's the guy [12:19] xavi nope [12:19] xavi simple text forums [12:20] jonnyb and tried tweaking robots.txt? [12:20] jonnyb like tell them not to index the forums at all for a start? [12:20] xavi but mnay many visitors from all around Spain (and overseas) every now and then when a new call for funding is open (for fellowsips in research, new contract oportunities in public research agencies, etc) [12:20] jonnyb and what do the tiki logs show, are there really that many people using the site? seem unlikely [12:21] xavi mmm, I can check that.... [12:21] xavi (I hope I will recover somehow a cpanel acces to the site, I used to have one... years ago) [12:21] jonnyb i wonder what the stats for tiki.org forums are [12:21] jonnyb maybe ask Oliver what he gets there? [12:21] xavi yes, so do I (I wish we hace some piwik access to our sites) [12:21] xavi s/hace/had [12:22] jonnyb yes, without more data you can't really tell if moving to another platform would make any difference, if there really are that many people reading the forums then need to get more beefy hosting [12:23] xavi jonnyb, do you know any easy way to see the load of a wiki page, where does it come from? [12:23] jonnyb how do you mean "load"? - the total size? [12:23] xavi some sort of easy partitioning of the page load, how much size from images, how much from js, from html,e tc [12:23] jonnyb probably in slow or something? [12:23] xavi in "slow"? [12:23] * xavi knows almost nothing on this aspect [12:24] xavi is this a website? [12:24] jonnyb slow == slow (new mac os autocorrect - grrrr!) [12:24] xavi I recall reading something about Yslow [12:24] jonnyb that's what i was trying to type! [12:24] xavi :-D [12:24] xavi ah, ok :-) [12:24] jonnyb yslow [12:24] jonnyb or the network panel in webkit [12:24] xavi ok, checking (than ks) [12:48] xavi jonnyb, see pm [12:49] vmachine joined #tikiwiki [12:49] vmachine left #tikiwiki [12:53] xavi bbl [13:27] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [13:32] ricks99 joined #tikiwiki [13:43] ricks99 polom y'all [13:48] jonnyb hi ricks99 [13:49] ricks99 hiya jonnb [13:53] jonnyb off out for fun in the mud and rain, bbl :) [14:08] Bsfez hi ricks99, [14:08] Bsfez polom all [14:10] luciash polom [14:11] Bsfez Luciash solved your problem with the list ? [14:11] ricks99 polom Bsfez [14:13] Bsfez tks for the tip about carousel. [14:14] Bsfez But still i though we have a new way to display slideshow on tiki10 [14:17] * ricks99 still using tiki9lts for most sites [14:18] DarkCalf joined #tikiwiki [14:19] luciash Bsfez: list ? [14:25] RobertPlummer joined #tikiwiki [14:25] RobertPlummer polom all [14:25] RobertPlummer Anyone know how to generate a pem file if I already have an ssl cert? [14:25] RobertPlummer :) [14:27] ricks99 polom RobertPlummer [14:27] ricks99 can't help with perm file :( [14:28] RobertPlummer "pem", it is a certificate file. [14:28] RobertPlummer I think it is "cat server.crt server.key > server.pem" [14:31] luciash i did not use pem file [14:31] luciash just crt [14:32] luciash on ubuntu there are some scripts and i just used that [14:32] luciash for localhost SSL testing [14:38] gour RobertPlummer: that's correect, iirc [14:39] rinnan left #tikiwiki [14:39] gour concat key & cert files into *.pem [14:41] Bsfez luciash: you were getting twice email from dev list [14:44] Bsfez ricks99: about carousel, i have already a div surrounding it with "width: singleimagewidthvalue" and "overflow:hidden". You advised me to do this a year ago ! :) [14:44] rinnan joined #tikiwiki [14:44] ricks99 hm... should work then [14:45] Bsfez RobertPlummer: i always use to do such thing https://www.rapidssl.com their "How to section" was ok for me [14:45] Bsfez ricks99: yes, but no :D [14:45] Bsfez it seams that all the images are displayed for a few seconds (the time it takes to load all the images) [14:46] gour ricks99: thank you for reply on your blog [14:47] * gour is praying that ricks99 finishes lts editions of the books soon [14:47] ricks99 is too! ^^^ [14:47] * ricks99 is too! ^^^ [14:48] Jyhem_laptop polom [14:48] * gour hops not only praying :-) [14:48] gour *hopes [14:48] ricks99 real life sometimes gets in the way :) [14:49] * Jyhem_laptop sends good vibes to Ricks [14:49] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [14:51] RobertPlummer thanks all for your pointers, we are close! [14:55] Bsfez :) [14:55] luciash Bsfez: ah, i did not try to solve it... i just leave it as it is [15:11] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [15:17] luciash jonnyb: wb, that yslow mac issue was funny thing :) [15:17] luciash (to read) [15:17] jonnyb hi luciash - autocorrect is too keen on this os [15:18] jonnyb but turning it off is also annoying for my many real typos! :) [15:18] luciash can it learn new things ? [15:20] jonnyb i think so, as you add stuff to the dictionary it should use them let me try with yslow :) [15:22] luciash cool :) [15:29] Bsfez i see we had the same fun installing ML :D [15:30] dhazel joined #tikiwiki [15:42] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [15:45] RobertPlummer joined #tikiwiki [15:46] arildb joined #tikiwiki [16:00] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [16:03] RobertPlummer I'm back to wysiwyg! [16:03] RobertPlummer polom jonnyb, you in to tiki today? [16:04] jonnyb hi RobertPlummer - yes, bits & pieces [16:05] RobertPlummer Wondering, had an issue at the beginning of ckeditor where it wants to insert an object. [16:05] RobertPlummer jonnyb: If there isn't one there already, it puts a "
" in my configuration, in the old one it puts a "

" [16:06] jonnyb do you have wiki_paragraph pref on? [16:06] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I've found that I can put something that isn't see-able (at least in firefox) ­ [16:06] RobertPlummer jonnyb: At this time that pref isn't handled in the jison parser [16:07] jonnyb tiki is unusable without it on imho [16:07] RobertPlummer jonnyb: explain [16:07] jonnyb it's a requirement for wysiwyg [16:07] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Not the new one [16:08] jonnyb doing page layout using
is nonsense, not semantic and totally unpredictable [16:08] RobertPlummer jonnyb: The reason we don't "need" it is that line breaks are handled using special
tags [16:08] RobertPlummer jonnyb: It is valid html5, no? [16:08] jonnyb imho paragraphs should be wrapped in

tags [16:08] GillesM joined #tikiwiki [16:09] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I've found a way to handle line breaks which was the reason we brought in

, correct [16:09] RobertPlummer ? [16:10] RobertPlummer jonnyb: This is new parser only, I don't see a feasible way of doing it in the old parser. [16:10] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Anyhow, they are temporary anyway, they are just a translation component that gets converted back to "\n" after it is handled at the server. [16:11] RobertPlummer jonnyb: But only the special line breaks go back to "\n" [16:12] RobertPlummer jonnyb: deliberate "
" are handled separately, as well as "%%%" (forced line breaks) [16:12] jonnyb all sounds very different, sorry (again) can't get into it now [16:12] RobertPlummer Anyway, the question I had for you was do you see problem with putting a noise element at the beginning that is removed on post-back? [16:13] jonnyb i just find that without wiki_paragraph you can't do proper page layout (for instance and {DIV} plugin you use ends up with a
after it, which is usually wrong [16:13] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Code Highlighting - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45614 [16:14] jonnyb you mean a creditor fake object? [16:14] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Couldn't we handle that scenario? [16:14] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Sort of, I saw that, ensure how it works as of yet. [16:14] jonnyb i don't understand the question [16:16] RobertPlummer jonnyb: ckeditor puts an element at the begging that I don't want there because it won't parse back exactly, which not acceptable, I need a way of handling that item. [16:16] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Is putting an unseen item at the beginning an acceptable fix? [16:17] jonnyb anyway, lphuberdeau: a quick question for you. Why is tiki-jsplugin.php set to not cache? it's big and loads on every anonymous pave view and looks partially responsible for xavi's bandwidth disaster. Seems it was your commit here: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/tiki-jsplugin.php?r1=30664&r2=30663&pathrev=30664 long long ago... [16:18] jonnyb RobertPlummer: what element? (it's probably there for a reason) [16:21] xavi issues with bandwidth from forums open to (many) anons: related to this: http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-11-26,Mon&sel=372#l368 (precarios.org - they funded some optimization done in tiki5 or similar for trackers and somewhere else, from lph, etc.) [16:22] xavi thks jonnyb for looking at it [16:25] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [16:28] dennmans joined #tikiwiki [16:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r44091 10branches/10.x/setup.sh [16:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] default to exit after executing a command [16:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: It is kinda hard to explain. ckeditor modifies the document when it initially loads, inserting something that shouldn't be there. I seem to have it handled "cleverly", which is something I don't like, but I think ckeditor is very very "clever". [16:31] * ricks99 wondering why his jquery qtip isn't working... :( [16:47] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [16:59] xavi left #tikiwiki [17:02] gour i played a bit with 10.0beta, but now i'll re-install 9.2...when do you expect 10.0 release? [17:03] arildb gour: what kind of problems did you experience? [17:03] jonnyb hi gour - any day now hopefully [17:05] gour any day? [17:06] gour arildb: well, i did import my small WP blog and tried to put it as homepage, but somehow visiting homepage did not work...it always tried to access some page containing link to blog, something like blogid=1 or so...i had seourls enabled [17:07] gour now will try with 9.2 [17:07] goj joined #tikiwiki [17:07] gour what is your stanza in regard to myisam vs innodb? [17:08] gour as far as tiki is concerned... [17:08] arildb myisam is the Tiki default. InnoDB was added in Tiki 8 [17:09] gour does the performance suffer with the latter? [17:09] arildb InnoDB has the benefits of being "crash proof" and it does not lock the entire table to change data in a table [17:09] * gour hopes to be able to use mariadb on production soon... [17:12] arildb I run almost all of the installations on InnoDB [17:13] gour on my localhost i did install mariadb-5.5.x, but it's not officially in the debian, so production will have to wait... [17:13] arildb InnoDB supports foreign key and referencial integrety. Tiki does not use this feature [17:13] gour in the meantime, doing our 1st baby tiki steps :-) [17:14] gour is it possible in tiki to use one language for the back-end and another for the front-end? this is common feature, but not every CMS does support it [17:15] ricks99 backend? you mean for admin user? [17:15] luciash language is user preference so if admin logs in with language set to english, the "backend" is english [17:15] gour yes [17:15] ricks99 y. each user can have their own lang pref [17:15] gour what about front-end visible for the anon. visitors? [17:16] ricks99 set site default [17:16] luciash it will be what u set as default language [17:16] ricks99 also, there's an option to auto-select language based on user browser [17:16] gour ahh, ok...then it seems it's easy :-) [17:16] luciash or by user browser lang preference if u enable the feature [17:16] ricks99 hi luciash [17:16] luciash hi ricks99 :) [17:17] gour ricks99: well, i usually do all my work in english (as admin) but e.g. have front-end stuff in native (croatian) lang [17:17] ricks99 y. then set lang pref for Admin user [17:17] GillesM joined #tikiwiki [17:18] * ricks99 admins several non-english sites... even though he only speaks english [17:19] gour good, good [17:20] gour luciash: if, due to wanting support for mobile sites and having responsive theme, is it difficult to use some other css framework or how does *lite copes with responsiveness? [17:24] luciash gour: it does not support responsive CSS yet but we have jQuery mobile layout preference in Tiki which copes with that somehow [17:25] jonnyb gour - if you use the tiki mobile feature it doesn't use *lite any more (as far as i remember) - it uses jquery.mobile [17:25] luciash gour: it is on my todo list to try some techniques for responsive CSS layout which are popular these days [17:29] gour jonnyb: ahh, good to know, thanks [17:29] gour luciash: ;) [17:31] gour seeing memory consumption for tiki-install (even with apache) is much more pleasurable than the same with typo3 [17:32] gour jonnyb: i sent email to marc with some of the points discussed yesterday about fossil if he considers it worth to be discussed [17:41] jonnyb b [17:41] jonnyb i saw some additions to a page on dev.t.o somewhere [17:45] gour interesting [17:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44092 10branches/10.x/tiki-setup.php [17:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] timepicker addon depends on jquery_ui so move include inside that block (was breaking mobile) [17:51] gour jonnyb: maybe this one http://dev.tiki.org/Distributed+revision+control ? [17:52] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44093 10trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/WikiCKEditor/Handler.php [17:52] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Create a helper element that is later filtered away so that ckeditor doesn't insert an extra '
' at the beginning of what is being edited [17:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44094 10trunk/lib/ckeditor_tiki/ 10(5 files in 4 dirs) [17:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [NEW] Creation of jisonformat plugin [17:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] fork formatted types, so jison can manage them as wiki syntax [17:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Define styles and their types so they are converted back to wiki syntax [17:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Move configs into jisonline so we can better know what is going on there [18:04] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [18:05] * gour is waving to marclaporte [18:09] gour somewhere in the docs and/or in ricks99|away books, i read that the name of 'admin' account cannot be renamed, but i'm not sure if i noticed that 10.0 is changing it? [18:11] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [18:14] ricks99|away gour: can't change admin username in 10 afaik [18:15] ricks99|away simply create a new user with any name, and add to admins group [18:17] gour ricks99|away: that's ok...i just consider knowing admin name is a bit of security risk, isn't it? [18:18] ricks99|away without password, not much use [18:19] Jyhem_laptop separator candidates so far: :+: -:- :-: +:+ [18:20] * ricks99|away sorry that he opened that can of worms ^^^ [18:22] * Jyhem_laptop thought he could keep concentrating on Tiki9, but another big data conversion was too frightening to ignore. [18:23] ricks99 my only issue was/is that forcing :: --> ::: without giving users an automated way to make the transitions is bad idea [18:26] ricks99 jquery question: the jq tooltip seems to require that the title/popup text be included in a link's "title" attribute or external file. any way to use a named div elsewhere on the page instead? [18:26] arildb rick99: It's not "forced". A highlighted message comes up requesting the user to activate the option, when namespaces is activated [18:27] Jyhem_laptop well, I'm glad we had the discussion before rather than after. [18:27] ricks99 arildb: yes, but there no notification that it will break everything [18:27] ricks99 when we eliminated img gallery, we created a way to let users convert to file gallery [18:28] ricks99 when we moved icons from ../pic/.. to ../img/.. again, we created a way to automate this [18:28] Jyhem_laptop did we eliminate img gallery? [18:28] ricks99 deprecated [18:28] ricks99 sorry [18:28] Jyhem_laptop :) [18:28] ricks99 just wanted somethign similar for :: -> ::: [18:28] * Jyhem_laptop noticed deprecated features are the most stable ones [18:29] ricks99 lol [18:29] Jyhem_laptop The switch from ../pic/.. to ../img/ worked fine, but not overnight. [18:30] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44095 10trunk/installer/schema/20100927_better_column_fix2_tiki.php [18:30] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] phpunit was throwing an error for the included ";" at end [18:30] ricks99 y. i apologize for picking up on the ::: issue so late in the game. I was unaware of it until i started seeing broken pages on t.o sites [18:32] arildb I think we should add the [18:32] arildb 'Center text using ::: instead of ::' option to the namespace setting area. This makes it easier to switch to :: [18:33] ricks99 its already a dependcy right? [18:33] ricks99 need a way to let admins know that it will break existing usages [18:34] arildb yes, but the setting itself is not in the namespace settings-area [18:34] ricks99 no. but enabling namespace option should require ::: as dependcy [18:34] arildb When html sytax is used there is no breakeage. Nor for fresh installations [18:35] arildb Is there a need for this dependency if the separator is e.g: :+: ? [18:35] ricks99 breakage in terms of upgrades [18:35] arildb I mean the default separator [18:35] ricks99 no [18:35] ricks99 afaik [18:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44096 10branches/10.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php [18:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] parser: Move the point where parser options get saved and reset for plugin execution to just before the actual plugin gets run. $this->option gets used in the meantime for $outputFormat calculation etc. [18:41] Jyhem_laptop no, that's the advantage of these funny-looking separators :+: -:- :-: +:+ [18:42] Jyhem_laptop I suggest someone sets up a convene plugin to choose one [18:42] * Jyhem_laptop needs to leave now [18:48] vmachine joined #tikiwiki [19:00] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44097 10trunk/lib/test/core/JisonParser/HtmlToWikiTest.php [19:00] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Added the real world wysiwyg test in [19:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44098 10trunk/lib/ 10parser/parserlib.php 10core/JisonParser/WikiCKEditor/Handler.php [19:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Move BOF (beginning of file) character out of the Jison parser and into the parser instantiator [19:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44099 10trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php [19:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] externals don't get split at ':' [19:05] vmachine left #tikiwiki [19:08] gour i installed 9.2 and applied Personal-blog profile. on my personal blog site, blog is at the homepage and posts are named as http://tld/year/month/date/name-of-post for e.g. 'Name of Post' post (using classical WP permalinks). otoh, non-profit org use concrete5 and the homepage only has 'newest' teasing part of the post, while the posts are going to http://tld/blog/name-of-the-post for the post entitled [19:08] gour 'Name of The Post'. i did enable sefurl in tiki, but the posts are now looking as http://atmarama.sites.djangohosting.ch/blogpost5-Introducing-Tiki-Profiles for 'Introducing Tiki Profiles' post. my question is from where is this 'blogpost5' in the post title and how to get rid of it and have same permalinks as in concrete5 (or WP) without any further redirect trickery? [19:14] ricks99 belive it is required/default [19:15] ricks99 without the "blogpost5" prefix, url looks like a wiki page [19:18] ricks99 afaik, it is a redirect to tiki-blog... [19:23] gour hmm...this sucks [19:24] gour it means we'd lose our old urls :-/ [19:26] ricks99 just use redirects [19:26] gour i set redirection for all my urls to add 'www', but forgot my testing domain does not resolve with it...should i dig in the db with phpmyadmin? [19:28] ricks99 i meant in your htaccess. just add redirects for old url -> new [19:29] gour wouldn't i use old site's rankings that way? [19:30] ricks99 ? [19:30] gour besides that, i hope to use nginx instead of apache... [19:30] ricks99 ok [19:31] gour that 'add www prefix' is stored in db? [19:32] ricks99 y. all prefs are in db [19:32] ricks99 use the admin panel -- easier [19:33] gour can't access site & admin panel :-) [19:33] ricks99 ah [19:33] gour ok, so, dig in db...have to go afk. bbs [19:34] ricks99 all prefs in tiki_prefs table [19:49] marclaporte I want to use PluginList like I used to used Pretty Trackers: any tips for me? [19:51] arildb Running the latest Tiki 10 from SVN, I get the following PHP notice ... [19:51] arildb PHP (5.4.8) NOTICE (E_STRICT): [19:51] arildb File: D:\OpenSource\TikiWiki\www\tiki10\lib\core\WikiPlugin\HtmlBase.php [19:51] arildb Line: 9 [19:51] arildb Type: Declaration of WikiPlugin_HtmlBase::exec() should be compatible with WikiPlugin_ConditionBase::exec($data, $params, $index, $parser) [20:14] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r44100 10branches/10.x/ 10(5 files in 3 dirs) [20:14] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [bp/r44002][FIX] Fix the all get_faq references. They were not updated when the faq functions were moved out of TikiLib. [20:14] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Ref: http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=4343#content2 [20:19] jonnyb hi changi|away (when you get back) - just tested 20100927_better_column_fix2_tiki and seems to work, thanks! [20:19] jonnyb checking into the redirect thing now... [20:20] jonnyb arildb: yes, i've been seeing that notice - one of RobertPlummer's i believe? [20:20] RobertPlummer On it! [20:20] RobertPlummer thanks guys for bringing that to my attention. [20:23] jonnyb i was ignoring it until after 10.0 (and a few of mine ;) ) [20:32] RobertPlummer odne [20:32] RobertPlummer done [20:34] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r44101 10branches/10.x/lib/core/ 10WikiPlugin/Negotiator/Wiki.php 10WikiPlugin/HtmlBase.php [20:34] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Make button compatible with condition base [20:34] RobertPlummer there we go [20:34] jonnyb :) [20:36] marclaporte gour: about old vs new URLs: this would be a great new Tiki feature [20:44] RobertPlummer jonnyb: This is crazee, ckeditor changes all sorts of things on load. Very confusing. [20:45] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [20:45] jonnyb meh, looks like the redirect problem on doc was my fault [20:46] Bsfez polom [20:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44102 10branches/10.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php [20:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] parser: rollback r44060 (and 44096) as the plugin issue was fixed elsewhere (probably in r44061). [20:46] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Fixes redirect plugin breaking search indexing - thanks (and apologies) to changi. [20:46] jonnyb just rolled back so should be ok now [20:46] RobertPlummer polom Bsfez [20:46] jonnyb hi Bsfez [20:46] Bsfez how things are going ? [20:46] jonnyb if changi|away becomes not away i guess we get some more upgrades :) [20:46] RobertPlummer I'm getting much closer with wysiwyg. [20:46] Bsfez great news ! [20:47] RobertPlummer Bsfez: I have most of the toolbar items working now. [20:47] jonnyb RobertPlummer: yes, creditor is quite a beast! [20:47] Bsfez waow ! Tiki10 or trunk ? [20:47] RobertPlummer Bsfez: But am running into some anomalies with ckeditor and it changing content on the fly. [20:47] RobertPlummer trunk [20:47] jonnyb ha ha, autocorrect strikes again - ckeditor i mean [20:48] Bsfez RobertPlummer: long time i didn't see what trunk looks like :D [20:48] RobertPlummer For example, just after a table and just before a div, it thinks I want   and not

[20:48] Bsfez jonnyb: turn it off ! [20:49] Bsfez RobertPlummer: ok… well if we got a good wysiwyg in trunk (T11) we can really expect T12 with a correct plugin. [20:49] Bsfez sry, correct tool [20:49] RobertPlummer Bsfez: plugin? [20:49] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Any way to turn off autocorrect? [20:50] Bsfez i meant a correct tool for end-user [20:50] Bsfez yes you can turn it off (i have done so) [20:50] RobertPlummer With ckeditor? Bsfez, how? [20:50] Bsfez confusion…. [20:51] jonnyb is a mac thing [20:51] Bsfez jonnyb: you can turn off auto-correction on your mac [20:51] jonnyb we deserve it :) [20:51] changi|away polom [20:51] jonnyb i did, but then missed it (when it was getting it right, my typing is rubbish!) [20:51] RobertPlummer I have tons of tests that I'm really hammering the wiki -> html -> wiki and I have it working very well. But as soon as it hits ckeditor, it tries to "fix" what isn't broken. [20:51] jonnyb hi changi [20:51] RobertPlummer and it breaks it [20:51] jonnyb redirect issue sorted [20:51] RobertPlummer polom changi [20:52] Bsfez hi changi [20:52] Bsfez I guess i'll be more available to test wysiwyg after 10final. I'll be glad to help [20:53] changi jonnyb: i didn't find a pretty way of fixing the redirect issue, maybe RobertPlummer can help [20:53] Bsfez RobertPlummer: i have a Tiki where i use infinitecarousel (was Tiki6). Don't we have a better (new) way to display a slideshow on a wiki page ? [20:53] jonnyb sorry, fixed i think [20:54] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r44103 10trunk/templates/admin/include_wiki.tpl [20:54] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Add the "Center text syntax" option to the namespace option settings. Makes it easier to use :: as a namespace separator [20:54] RobertPlummer Bsfez: {SLIDER()}{SLIDER} [20:54] jonnyb in r44102 just now [20:54] jonnyb Tiki-KGB being a bit slow this evening [20:54] Tiki-KGB jonnyb: My master told me to not respond. [20:55] RobertPlummer jonnyb: This auto-correct thing could be a deal breaker [20:55] Bsfez tks RobertPlummer [20:55] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Might *have* to find an editor that doesn't do that. [20:55] jonnyb what auto-correct thing? on Mac OS? [20:55] Bsfez LOL [20:55] RobertPlummer jonnyb: CKEditor is changing my html without my permission on the fly at initial loadup. [20:56] changi jonnyb: a bit slow, i receive the email at 20:53 and 1 minute later it display it in IRC :) [20:56] RobertPlummer jonnyb: So we've solved the issue of stabilizing the conversion process, and now our weakest link is ckeditor. [20:56] jonnyb :) [20:56] RobertPlummer jonnyb: 2 out of 3 ain't bad. [20:56] RobertPlummer :) [20:57] jonnyb RobertPlummer: what was that totally jquery one marclaporte found a while back? might be worth looking at less complicated alternatives... [20:57] RobertPlummer Yea, there are 2 that are very promissing. [20:57] changi jonnyb: nice, thx you [20:57] jonnyb i see tinymce in quite a few things now [20:58] jonnyb changi: sorry, was my bad in the first place (although it was to fix a bug reported by Bsfez, so i'll try and blame him! ;) ) [20:59] changi jonnyb: no problem, it was good to take 3 hours to find the origin :) [20:59] * changi testing on doc.to [20:59] jonnyb add on a couple here today [20:59] * changi it works :) [21:00] changi Bsfez: should we switch dev now ? [21:00] * jonnyb stands by [21:01] Bsfez jonnyb: feedback me do we have other issues ? [21:02] jonnyb no other new ones i'm aware of [21:02] jonnyb still the few "not going to fix" ones as on the dev page i think [21:02] RobertPlummer jonnyb: http://aloha-editor.org/demos.php [21:02] Bsfez ok i though i missed something. :) [21:03] jonnyb the search index rebuild was failing on doc yesterday, but is fixed in svn now [21:03] Bsfez jonnyb: so why we don't update dev ? [21:04] jonnyb waiting for your official go-ahead (sir :) ) [21:04] Bsfez don't we [21:04] Bsfez Monseigneur !!! :D [21:04] Bsfez changi: we are good to update dev ! [21:04] Bsfez If it goes smooth i'll ask ohertel to update t.o [21:05] jonnyb then i'll update http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+10x (don't want to do it mid-upgrade) [21:05] Bsfez sure [21:05] Bsfez i update 10x page [21:06] changi RobertPlummer: it's nice [21:08] changi jonnyb: refresh take 9 minutes instead of 1 hour yesterday, really thx you [21:08] jonnyb suspiciously quick, no? for such a big site i mean [21:09] jonnyb wow, aloha is amazing - editing in 3d! [21:10] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Can I get a couple +1's to do a test implementation? [21:10] changi RobertPlummer: +1000000 [21:10] changi :) [21:10] gour marclaporte: i'll post to the user seeking for some wisdom... [21:11] RobertPlummer I see a weakness, with aloha, no source view. I imagine we could make one. [21:11] refizul polom [21:11] changi refizul: hi [21:11] Bsfez hi refizul [21:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r44104 10trunk/templates/admin/include_general.tpl [21:12] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Add the "Center text syntax" option to the namespace option settings, in admin | general too. [21:12] changi Bsfez: regression about tweetid is fixed [21:12] RobertPlummer jonnyb: the jWYSIWYG seems very immature and very buggy though, so I'm torn [21:12] changi Bsfez: and fully backported [21:13] * changi upgrading dev [21:14] redflo joined #tikiwiki [21:14] RobertPlummer marclaporte: oops, didn't see you where here (polom) [21:15] changi don't think he is physicaly here :) [21:15] Bsfez great work changi ! [21:15] refizul any nginx experts around? [21:16] * jonnyb likes http://www.aloha-editor.org (even checked the license out, look ok for tiki) [21:17] changi refizul: not an expert, but an advanced user [21:17] jonnyb hi refizul - also interested but not even installed nginx yet [21:18] changi i'm playing with nginx for 3 month as reverse proxy with 600 websites :) [21:18] jonnyb how many tikis? ;) [21:19] refizul I try to run Tiki native on nginx, bit get only "File not found." [21:19] changi jonnyb: 40, but not for long, Strategy 2013 is to move them to Liferay [21:19] changi refizul: with php-fpm ? [21:21] gour changi: is there some place on t.o where rewrite rules and workaround for sefurls are posted? [21:21] jonnyb gour: you might try looking at the stuff for iis (web.config files) [21:21] gour in which table is setting to add 'www' to url stored? afaics, it's not in the preferences? [21:22] jonnyb yes, it's a pref - in general i think [21:22] gour jonnyb: iis? it reminds me on iie :-) [21:22] marclaporte http://www.aloha-editor.org/license.php is GPL but they specify that we can ask for exception [21:23] jonnyb hmm, in the code it says dual MIT & GPL license [21:23] refizul changi: yes, with the -fpm [21:23] gour jonnyb: there is, afaict, one nging-related problem mentioned here - http://www.stevestreeting.com/2012/05/09/apache-to-nginx-php-fpm-part-1/ [21:23] changi Bsfez: dev is on 10.x [21:23] Bsfez kk ! [21:23] gour jonnyb: i do not have access to the site's admin, have to find it in the db [21:24] marclaporte jonnyb: it's complicated: http://www.aloha-editor.org/license-faq.php [21:25] gour solved...dns propagated, so my alias is working now and i can fix it within tiki [21:25] jonnyb gour: i thought the default should be to do nothing, so maybe it's something else [21:25] gour jonnyb: i usually redirect non-www to www, but my 'testing' domain didn't have www.domain alias [21:25] jonnyb marclaporte: i see, so we'd need an exception [21:25] gour set in dns [21:34] RobertPlummer I'm not ruling out ckeditor just yet, I think it would take a great amount of work to get it working, and we don't even know if it will not modify on the fly our page data. [21:34] RobertPlummer But after a search, it does look hopeless. [21:35] RobertPlummer marclaporte: Can you work your license magic with them and I will go ahead and run a few tests to see it if it feasible? [21:36] Bsfez jonnyb: you remember i talk about problem with the image used by "recommended on facebook" and article ? I found the problem. If article don't have own image but topic icon, the first icon found is sent [21:37] gour huh...created new article which contains native character in the post title and when wanting to save it i get: Error Notice: invalid variable value: $_GET["articleId"] = 2-Novi-lanak ? [21:37] jonnyb ah, nice hunting [21:37] gour tiki has problem with utf-8? [21:38] jonnyb gour: occasionally ;) [21:38] jonnyb everyone does [21:38] gour jonnyb: hmm, that's not good [21:38] Bsfez the page : http://www.avtalyon.org.il/article426 will show the "printing" icon as i recommend it [21:38] jonnyb but not recently afaik [21:38] gour jonnyb: it's 9.2 [21:38] jonnyb by the way, dev.t.o looking ok on 10.x [21:39] gour i hoped that native support thingies are from the past :-) [21:39] Bsfez i'll keep it somewhere for when we got time to deal with it [21:39] jonnyb more of a constant battle... [21:39] jonnyb thanks Bsfez - i have to go and eat now [21:40] Bsfez jonnyb: bon appetit ! :) [21:40] jonnyb may bbl [21:40] jonnyb merci, and bravo changi [21:42] Bsfez i have a doubt, tweetid bug has been resolved ? [21:43] changi Bsfez: yes [21:44] Bsfez ok i update http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+10x [21:45] Bsfez oh jo nny just did it. Cool [21:54] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [21:59] gour another gotcha (with articles)...my article's url is http:/tld/article2-Novi-lanak but originally the article is named 'Novi članak' and I'd suppose that CMS would either create http://tld/article2-novi-clanak page alias and/or allow me to customize it according to my preferences. do i miss something here? [22:04] RobertPlummer I've loaded up the aloha editor and the verdict.......... [22:05] RobertPlummer It doesn't edit some things, but it does edit others. [22:12] gour it looks that 10.0 behaves better in this regard :-) [22:16] Bsfez RobertPlummer: is there a doc for {SLIDER} ? I wonder if the plugin can pick images from a file gallery [22:16] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [22:24] changi see ya all [22:25] RobertPlummer Bsfez: I don't think there is. It is supposed to be very very similar to the tabs plugin. [22:26] Bsfez found a very nice trick ! I set several "{img class="carouselimages" randomGalleryId="60"}" for content. That way i have on each reload a selection of pictures from a specific file gallery. [22:26] Bsfez ^^ [22:57] fabricius Bsfez, may I post that on the doc page doc.tiki.org/PluginImg ? [22:57] Jyhem_laptop joined #tikiwiki [22:58] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [23:01] Bsfez fabricius: well still experimenting it but so far look it does the work : http://avtalyon.org.il/HomePage [23:02] Bsfez fabricius: need some tweak to position but nothing serious [23:06] refizul harddisk too small to install the complete system :-( 4GB with 2GB root partition was a little optimistic [23:06] Bsfez shit happens :) [23:08] fabricius Bsfez: seems not to work [23:08] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [23:08] Bsfez ? [23:08] fabricius Bsfez: top seems to be a slider plugin, which one time in FF worked and after that in FF and in Chrome does not work [23:09] fabricius I could change the 3 horizontal pics on reloading - once and only after clearing the caches [23:10] Bsfez Mac FF working fine, checking others [23:10] fabricius your HomePage seems to be cached and the slider seems to be permanently folded out [23:11] fabricius FF 17.0 and Chrome 23.0.something - Ubuntu 12.04 (Linux) [23:13] Bsfez Mac Chrome is ok too and pictures are changing… [23:13] Bsfez Mac Safarin need an overflow:hidden or something like this same for window IE9 [23:13] Bsfez weird [23:16] Bsfez now Safari Mac is ok [23:16] Tiki|bot0 joined #tikiwiki [23:17] Bsfez IE9 Windows still a problem, but, seams the problem is with the slider plugin as it took a while before he resize pictures. [23:17] Bsfez after 15seconds it is working and i never see same images. [23:17] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [23:22] Bsfez fabricius: i reduce number of images to 4 but that doesn't change the delay with IE9… [23:23] Bsfez {SLIDER(width="320px" height="240px" expand="n" resizecontents="y" buildarrows="n" buildnavigation="n" buildstartstop="n" autoplay="y" pauseonhover="y" playrtl="y")}{img randomGalleryId="8"}/////{img randomGalleryId="8"}/////{img randomGalleryId="8"}/////{img randomGalleryId="8"}{SLIDER} [23:26] fabricius Opera 12.11 Linux 64bit not working [23:27] fabricius Bsfez: are you sure, that randomgallery is working in slider? [23:29] Bsfez yes as you can see in the code, this is a set of 4 images. On each refresh i see 4 different images. May be there is a confusion there. It doesn't pick randomly pictures on the fly, but at each realod (refresh). [23:30] Jyhem_laptop joined #tikiwiki [23:33] Bsfez Opera on Mac, same behaviour (no good) as windows IE9 [23:33] Bsfez But the problem is with the plugin… [23:33] Bsfez at http://avtalyon.org.il/test2 [23:33] Bsfez i changed to : [23:33] Bsfez {SLIDER(width="320px" height="240px" expand="n" resizecontents="y" buildarrows="n" buildnavigation="n" buildstartstop="n" autoplay="y" pauseonhover="y" playrtl="y")}{img src="display146"}/////{img src="display151"}/////{img src="display152"}/////{img src="display153"}/////{img src="display154"}/////{img src="display155"}/////{img src="display156"}/////{img src="display157"}{SLIDER} [23:43] arildb joined #tikiwiki [23:47] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [23:53] arildb joined #tikiwiki