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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r44119 10trunk/templates/ 10admin/include_general.tpl 10admin/include_wiki.tpl
tikiwiki [DOC] Explain that the wiki ::: center tag must be used, if :: is used as a namespace separator. 		[00:06]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r44120 10trunk/templates/ 10admin/include_general.tpl 10admin/include_wiki.tpl
tikiwiki Namespace setting changes
tikiwiki [DOC] Improved doc for setting the namespace separator
tikiwiki [NEW] Add link to "Page name display stripper:" option 		[00:52]
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arildbMaybe good with an automerge soon? [01:11]
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Jyhem_laptopI see a website which has one blog in wysiwyg and one in wiki syntax. How is that done? [01:47]
refizulpolom [01:50]
Jyhem_laptopCan I open two wysiwyg textarea in the same page in Tiki 8 or 9 ? For instance in blog posts, it would allow an exerpt [01:56]
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refizulrefizul wonders, why someone needs an Oracle registration for downloading OpenSolaris / Oracle Solaris
this request helped a lot - finding OpenIndiana :-� 		[02:17]
kstingel|awayrefizul: because Oracle want proof that ppl are actually using their products? ... and they want to convince you to purchase paid versions [02:20]
refizulkstingel|away: they just lost a user - what does this proof? ;-)
but OpenSolaris was buried long time ago 		[02:27]
kstingel|awayrefizul: lol, they've lost many users because of it ... it proves their marketing/delivery department doesn't have a clue? [02:28]
refizulkstingel|away: maybe they had good teachers - from IBM [02:29]
kstingel|awaypossibly they're all ex-IBM staffers? I recall never using IBM products for the same reason [02:30]
refizulI still remember parts of the OS/2 vs NT marketing [02:30]
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kstingelis there a way (in SVN) to add an alternate URL for externals?
I'm thinking, it could be worth doing an import of Zend into our third_party tree then set trunk + branches/x.y + tags/x.y to pull in third_party/Zend
... that could solve the (frequent) problems encountered updating working copies ... (my updates always seem to fail when the zend connection is forcibly closed) 		[03:31]
refizuldid you try updates without externals?
kstingel|away: svn up --ignore-externals 		[03:45]
kstingel|awayI'm doing a fresh co (to a pen-drive), I need externals included (this time)
am stepping thru creation of the "showtiki" co, for a tut page ... re-writing previous tut I wrote to provide both Windon't + Ubuntu based guide 		[03:47]
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Guest4369hi.......how can we change favicon icon of tikiwiki? [09:33]
luciashreplace favicon.ico and favicon.png, clear browser cache [09:33]
Guest4369where it is located?
favicon.ico file
i got it..........it's located on root folder
thanks 		[09:34]
luciashnp [09:37]
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gouris it safe to run tiki-10 under php-5.4? [10:05]
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luciashgour: safe ? why not [10:20]
gourluciash: i meant compatibility-wise [10:30]
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concerning Plugin Code: is anyone awae of a size limit of the code that can be displayed? I want doe put a bash script with roughly 270 lines into a CODE block. The previes shows everything, after savin I get syntax highlighting but only about 120 line 		[10:30]
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Guest4369hi [10:35]
luciashhhm: no idea
hi Guest4369
again :) 		[10:39]
Guest4369hi
when i click on particular user->assign group to user
but when i click on admin active sign whole page became blank
my admin rights became unactive 		[10:40]
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arildbDoes anybody have an idea how best to zoom the content (cross-browser), as in providing buttons on the page to zoom? [11:01]
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luciashmoloq [12:38]
fabriciuswolod [12:41]
rinnanI seem to have broken search for wiki pages in wysiwyg syntax. Any idea when I ought to look in order to fix such an issue? [12:42]
fabriciusarghhh [12:42]
rinnan*duck* [12:42]
fabriciusone day we will get it
:-D 		[12:42]
rinnanso.. it doesnt exist yet? [12:43]
luciashhow did u broke it ? [12:43]
fabriciushehe not that rinnan
sry, no idea to fix that 		[12:43]
rinnanfabricus: phew.. [12:44]
fabriciusrinnan: how you have broken? [12:45]
rinnanliciash: I'm not entirely sure to perfectly honest. [12:45]
fabriciusand where? [12:45]
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rinnanok, my problem is that I dont get those wysywig-pages as search results even if they match my search statements [12:46]
fabriciusah double question sry ... Ishould sleep every day - not every second
hmmm 		[12:46]
rinnanI guess I just fiddled with the wrong setting at one point [12:46]
BsfezAll the tikis at demo.t.o are down ? (The page isn't redirecting properly)
hi fab, lu 		[12:47]
luciashhi Bsfez
rinnan: try rebuild your search index
Bsfez: no idea 		[12:49]
rinnanyup, performing rebuild as we speak [12:49]
sorry y'all, it seems I jumped to conclusions (again :-P ). Someone have altered our main menu search box. Now it only searches page titles. Got nothing to do with wysiwyg. I was tricked by my own test case it seems [12:55]
luciashlol, np [12:56]
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fabriciusdemo works [13:04]
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gouris it required that tiki's homepage is http://tld/HomePage ? [13:21]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44121 10branches/10.x/lib/search/searchlib-unified.php
tikiwiki [FIX] search: Fix check for other rebuild process when running via sudo (as search/shell.php then appears twice in the process list) 		[13:22]
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luciashgour: not at all [13:52]
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luciashgour: change to whatever page u want on Admin > Wiki or if u want different feature/URL than wiki page, change on Admin > General > Navigation tab [13:53]
ricks99polom y'qll [13:56]
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gourluciash: thanks [14:38]
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Tiki|botInfo: Vote for Tiki as the next BitNami Installer - http://info.tiki.org/article208-Vote-for-Tiki-as-the-next-BitNami-Installer [14:55]
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Guest33078when i try to save spreadsheet in firefox it not save and then try to save that in chrome is save..............i use tikiwiki version 9.1
is that browser issue in tikiwiki 9.1?
can anyone help me?
in my tikiwiki version it worked nice but in tikiwiki version 9.1 it create issue
version 6.6 		[17:16]
RobertPlummerGuest33078: hello
Guest33078: I built most of the spreadsheet integration in tiki.
Guest33078: Do you get an error?
(polom all) 		[17:25]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44122 10trunk/lib/ckeditor_tiki/ 10(5 files in 2 dirs)
tikiwiki [REM] Remove plugins/style that will not be created 		[17:32]
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RobertPlummerThose last 2 commits were a bit painful for me.
A bit of work there.
arildb: Can you svn up in trunk and let me know if wysiwyg is still broken for non-jison? 		[17:35]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44123 10trunk/lib/ 10ckeditor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php 10smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php
tikiwiki [REM] ckeditor loading for jison 		[17:36]
arildbRobertPlummer: ok
RobertPlummer: How did the aloha integration test go? 		[17:36]
RobertPlummerarildb: Working on it now, it is looking good.
arildb: After you understand how it needs to be integrated, it is actually quite easy. 		[17:39]
arildbRobertPlummer: I am curious to see it [17:39]
RobertPlummerarildb: But it is a new project, so much of the source is undocumented.
arildb: Did you reply about added the namespace syntax?
to jison that is
arildb: Wanna see a screen share? 		[17:39]
arildbRobertPlummer: No I didn't, and yes it would be good to know how to do that
ok 		[17:41]
RobertPlummerarildb: You have 30 minutes I can get you setup to start on the integration.
arildb: What operating system you run? 		[17:42]
arildbRobertPlummer: can we do it another time?
I run windows 		[17:42]
RobertPlummerarildb: Sure. You just need node.js & git [17:43]
arildbRobertPlummer: ah yes...the setup of the dev env... I have node.js, but not git [17:43]
RobertPlummerarildb: If you download node.js you'll need the package called npm
arildb: Then just "git clone https://github.com/robertleeplummerjr/jison.git" 		[17:44]
arildbRobertPlummer: ok. I will need to get git installed first [17:45]
RobertPlummerhttp://msysgit.github.com/ [17:45]
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RobertPlummerarildb: better - https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git#platform-windows [17:46]
arildbok [17:46]
Bsfezfabricius: u here ? [17:49]
fabriciushi here
Bsfez here 		[17:56]
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Bsfezok found out that demos are not working with ff mac only.
tks 		[17:57]
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fabriciusBsfez: that's no good [18:25]
RobertPlummerHey guys, looks like parts of aloha editor were not created to work like ckeditor with the ease of adding attributes. That is the bad news.
The good news is that they use the same open culture that powers jquery and tiki, and I've found out how to add a quick event in that allows us to tie into the system nearly exactly like ckeditor.
So I've shown my code to their devs, and am awaiting their reply. With ckeditor I've not gotten so much as a reply when talking with them, with aloha, the devs are all over viral interest.
Woohoo! 		[18:30]
arildbRobertPlummer: what aloha has, without additions, is already very good, I assuming we can save changes [18:33]
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RobertPlummerarildb: join the discussion - https://getsatisfaction.com/aloha_editor/topics/can_aloha_editor_be_used_as_an_xml_editor [18:37]
fabriciusRobertPlummer arildb - I did not get too much of this discussion the recent days ... is it about switching from CKE to Aloha? [18:37]
arildbfabricius: Not as I see it, no. But it seems to be an excellent "audit" tool [18:39]
RobertPlummerfabricius: Unfortunately yes, at least for jison. CKE destroys tons of content on load time and they contenteditable isn't built to recognized by children, so we have tons of problems listing plugins directly out on the page.
arildb: ^
fabricius: We are just testing it right now, and seeing about getting proper licensing. 		[18:40]
arildb"audit" may be the wrong word, but it is editing the content of existing pages. Not creating new ones [18:41]
fabriciusI just looked to the discussion ... [18:41]
RobertPlummerarildb: I don't see how they are different. [18:41]
fabriciusyou linked robert [18:41]
luciashproper licensing ?
it is BSD = LGPL compatible 		[18:41]
RobertPlummerluciash: I know, but marclaporte and I want to make sure we are ok [18:42]
luciashok [18:42]
fabriciusRobertPlummer: a few days ago I looked at an aloha demo ... is it imaginable to gat some simultaneous editing with it? [18:42]
RobertPlummerluciash: Also, I don't want to push something onto the tiki community [18:42]
fabriciusRobertPlummer: thinking towards tTikipad" [18:42]
arildbfabricius: When I tried the aloa editor, I did not see an obvious way to create new elements. Also the aloha edit onsy support a subset of html [18:42]
RobertPlummerfabricius: I have it working locally, it loads up, it doesn't save yet, wanted to get some dev feedback on the modifications I've done to events.
fabricius: No toolbar integration yet. 		[18:43]
luciasharildb: u mean new editable area on the page ? whole page can be editable area, no ? [18:43]
fabriciusarildb: when I tried, I could not even save ... but think, that might be cause it was demo [18:43]
RobertPlummerfabricius: tTikipad? [18:44]
arildbluciash: yes, elements all over the page can be edited, it seems
fabricius: yes, I think the missing save was the demo setup 		[18:44]
RobertPlummerarildb: They documentation is a bit out of date, they support a bit more at this point. [18:44]
luciasharildb: u add new element by typing and selecting from the toolbar to format it
afaics 		[18:44]
arildbluciash: could be. Anyhow there is the issue about the aloha editor not supporting all tags...though I am not completely sure what that implies. [18:45]
fabriciusRobertPlummer: "Tikipad" would be AWESOME ... imagine: simultaneous editing a wikipage with WYSIWYG-Wiki like it was an "Etherpad" ... realtime collaboration
RobertPlummer: just thinking loud 		[18:46]
arildbfabricius: I love the idea! [18:48]
luciashfabricius: those "real time editing" sounds very cool, but in fact nobody uses them in reality - from my experience nobody was willing to go further than test and say it's cool [18:48]
RobertPlummerhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/9081608/implementing-a-generic-real-time-collaborative-editor-plugin-like-google-docs [18:49]
luciashi do not know a single developer who would use real time collaboration code editor
or wiki editor
:) 		[18:49]
arildbluciash: Etherpad implements "real time editing". It also records who wrote what and in which order (playback). These are very good features in academic environments [18:52]
fabriciusTHX RobertPlummer -> "A real time collaboration plugin for the Aloha-Editor called Aloha-Wikdiocs was released at the jQuery conference 2012. It's still alpha but already works quite well. ..." [18:53]
RobertPlummerfabricius: What do you think? [18:54]
fabriciusRobertPlummer: the plugin is not opensource - a webservice thzat is for free for a starter (teaser?)
RobertPlummer: but at least it might be an idea for an own development for one of our jCracks, err jS/jQ cracks ... but where he is????
RobertPlummer: ah here he is :-D
RobertPlummer: :-P 		[18:56]
RobertPlummer: check this out: http://blog.dreamcss.com/wysiwyg-editor/collaborative-real-time-text-editor-synchroedit/
(LGPL and MPL)
http://www.synchroedit.com/
args: part 2/3: The Sync Server — A Java-based server app that talks with the Request Server and Sync Client and mediates the synchronous editing. 		[19:06]
arildbRobertPlummer: The WYSIWYG plugin is still not working in trunk [19:11]
RobertPlummerarildb: Oh ok, the wysiwyg plugin. url please? I need source. [19:12]
arildbRobertPlummer: Just enable the wysiwyg plugin and create a page with the content {WYSIWYG()}Hello world{WYSIWYG} [19:13]
fabriciusarildb what you expect when writing WYSIWYG in a WikiPlugin? [19:15]
arildbfabricius: If you click on it the context switches to an inline CkEditor. Works in Tiki 10 [19:15]
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arildbDoes anybody know if there are some permissions associated with the editing of content using the wysiwyg plugin, or can anybody edit. I cannot find any. or maybe it follows the edit permission?
yes, seems to follow the wiki page edit permission (I made a test) 		[19:22]
fabriciuserrr arildb I was just kidding - I know this plugin ;-) [19:27]
arildbfabricius: it's quite new to me [19:27]
fabriciusmy humor? [19:27]
RobertPlummerarildb: wysiwyg loads now after this commit [19:33]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44125 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_wysiwyg.php
tikiwiki [FIX] empty var led to broken wysiwyg 		[19:34]
arildbRobertPlummer: Thanks I will test
RobertPlummer: It gets further, but it still fails. Error: Timestamp: 30.11.2012 01:36:52
Error: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMWindow.content]
Source File:
Line: 231 		[19:34]
RobertPlummerarildb: Steps to reproduce [19:39]
arildbTested using FF
same page content as before. FF Error console reports the above error when viewing the page 		[19:39]
RobertPlummerarildb: When I load, it runs fine, so there has to be something. [19:39]
arildbguess so
which browser did you use?
RobertPlummer: When I tested in Opera it kind of works. The problem is that the plugin goes into edit mode immidiately when viewing the host page. Should only activate when the plugin is clicked
also there is no Save and Cancel buttons
Chrome has the same effect as Opera 		[19:40]
RobertPlummerFirefox [19:45]
arildbFirefox gives a blank "area" and the error console report the error I mentioned above
IE9 behaves like Opera and Chrome 		[19:45]
RobertPlummerarildb: Firefox, what version
? 		[19:49]
arildb16.0.2
downloading update now
Upgraded to Firefox 17.0
still a whitespace instead of the plugin. However, the error console error is gone
Firebug reports 2 files missing..
lib/ckeditor/skins/kama/skin.js?t=CAJ8
lib/ckeditor/skins/kama/editor_gecko.css?t=CAJ8 		[19:49]
luciasharildb: try svn up lib/ckeditor [19:59]
arildbluciash: ok
luciash: SVN says all OK
I think the problem is that trunk is running a newer version of CkEditor than Tiki 10. Is that correct RobertPlummer ? 		[19:59]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03sylvieg r44126 10trunk/ 10tiki-tc.php 10lib/tikilib.php 10lib/themecontrol/tcontrol.php
tikiwiki [ENH]reorganize code - no changes 		[20:16]
RobertPlummerarildb: Trunk is runnning pre 4, we could roll it back now that development has ceased with it.
arildb, fabricius: good news with contributions with Aloha Editor - https://github.com/alohaeditor/Aloha-Editor/blob/dev/CONTRIBUTING.md 		[20:28]
arildbRobertPlummer: Has development ceased for CkEditor? [20:30]
RobertPlummerFor me it has [20:30]
arildbYes, then a rollback may be the best
Let me try to copy the missing files from Tiki 10
The missing file editor_gecko.css is not in Tiki 10
skin.js is now there 		[20:31]
RobertPlummerok, just ckeditor, not wysiwyglib [20:38]
arildbgood [20:39]
RobertPlummerarildb: Also it has just been clarified that we are Aloha editor compliant with license.
So we are good to go for committing. 		[20:42]
arildbRobertPlummer: Excellent!
So, you will make an experimental branch?
RobertPlummer: Is it a clean rollback of the CkEditor changes in trunk? 		[20:42]
RobertPlummerarildb: yes
not sure about the experimental branch as it is already experimental and will affect very little. 		[20:46]
arildbok
RobertPlummer: which benefits does the CkEditor version in trunk give, compared to the old one which Tiki 10 uses? 		[20:47]
RobertPlummerarildb: For the existing implementation, none. [20:48]
arildbRobertPlummer: yes, that's what it seems like. So, I vote for a rollback [20:49]
RobertPlummerWhen I do I revert, I get too many conflicts, so I'm going to delete, checkout revision last good, and recommit with that.
72 conflics
structure just changed too much. 		[20:50]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44127 10(13 files in 5 dirs)
tikiwiki [FIX] Temporarily deleting ckeditor for rollback now that development has ceased for implementation with jison, tried to rollback but got too many conflicts (73). 		[20:58]
arildbRobertPlummer: Is the Jison dev env setup described somewhere in a page on tiki.org? [20:58]
RobertPlummerhttp://dev.tiki.org/Jison+Parser [20:59]
arildbthanks [20:59]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44128 10trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.breadcrumbs.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Notice, debug code 		[21:00]
RobertPlummerarildb: Once you get node.js installed, npm, and git, it is pretty strait forward.
You have to render the php and js parser files from a jison file.
Parsers are complex enough, using this method keeps the language somewhat human readable.
We don't have to worry about too much of what goes on in the actual parser, our mental effort is spent more in the handler and the rules that are sent to the parser. 		[21:05]
arildbRobertPlummer: I am running WIndows, and I couln't see a Windows description for the npm module [21:07]
RobertPlummernpm is a node.js module believe [21:07]
arildbyes, seems so..but it's not in my installation [21:08]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44129 10third_party/ckeditor/ 10(429 files in 92 dirs)
tikiwiki [ROLLBACK][r41830] ckeditor to last stable
tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44130 10trunk/ 10(8 files in 5 dirs)
tikiwiki [NEW] Adding Bing Translate support for machine translation 		[21:08]
RobertPlummerhttp://csell.net/2011/10/20/setting-up-npm-for-node-js-on-windows/
arildb: woops, I committed a few files accidentally. 		[21:08]
marclaportegour: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/tktview?name=0f36ec7790
gour: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/tktview?name=311671db59 		[21:08]
RobertPlummerarildb: rolling back parts of wysiwyglib [21:14]
arildbok [21:14]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44131 10trunk/lib/core/ 10Multilingual/MachineTranslation.php 03Multilingual/MachineTranslation/Cache.php
tikiwiki [MOD] Adding translation cache to reduce the usage bills 		[21:18]
RobertPlummerarildb: just committed, should be back to 10.x functionality now [21:18]
arildbRobertPlummer: thanks. testing... [21:19]
RobertPlummerok [21:19]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44132 10trunk/lib/ckeditor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Partial rollback to older ckeditor and completely different method to load jison editor (possibly aloha editor) 		[21:20]
arildbRobertPlummer: I am currently unable to load pages in trunk. Th eFireFox error console reports: Error: downloadable font: download failed (font-family: "Disqus" style:normal weight:normal stretch:normal src index:1): bad URI or cross-site access not allowed
source: http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1354147123/fonts/disqus-webfont.woff
Source File: http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1354147123/uploads/themes/7884a9652e94555c70f96b6be63be216/theme.css?254
Line: 0
Source Code:
@font-face { font-family: "Disqus"; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; src: local("?"), url("../../../fonts/disqus-webfont.woff") format("woff"), url("../../../fonts/disqus-webfont.ttf") format("truetype"), url("../../../fonts/disqus-webfont.svg#webfontphKv1xv9") format("svg"); }
doesn't make much sense to me 		[21:31]
RobertPlummerTo do with ckeditor? [21:31]
arildbNo this is trying to view the homepage [21:31]
RobertPlummerurl? [21:32]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44133 10trunk/templates/admin/include_i18n.tpl
tikiwiki [ENH] Improved conditional display 		[21:32]
arildbIt's a local installations
Can be IIS
I will restart the computer 		[21:32]
changiRobertPlummer: i'm unable to parse lib/core/JisonParser/Html/Handler.php with phpcs
RobertPlummer: is it normal ? 		[21:33]
RobertPlummerchangi: I don't know, have you been able to in the past? [21:34]
changiYes, apparently since the 12 novembre, it's broken [21:35]
RobertPlummerchangi: If you let me know what errors you are getting, I can fix it.
changi: Is it in trunk or 10? 		[21:36]
changiRobertPlummer: trunk [21:36]
RobertPlummerchangi: Any clue as to where it is failing? [21:36]
changiRobertPlummer: PHP Fatal error: Maximum function nesting level of '100' reached, aborting! in /usr/share/php/PHP/CodeSniffer/File.php on line 1416 [21:36]
RobertPlummerchangi: No more detail on it?
changi: It will nest as many times as there are html elements. We need to work out a caching system for optimum speed and resources. 		[21:37]
changiRobertPlummer: http://qa.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk/951/console [21:39]
RobertPlummerI don't see any detail on what it is parsing
only that it fails. 		[21:43]
changiRobertPlummer: i don't have much more when i only specify the file [21:47]
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RobertPlummerarildb: We back? [21:51]
arildbalmost [21:51]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Forum Search not working - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45633 [21:53]
gourmarclaporte: cool. thanks ;) [21:55]
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arildbRobertPlummer: WYSIWYG plugin works again in trunk [21:59]
RobertPlummerarildb: but.... [21:59]
arildbno but, yet [22:00]
RobertPlummerno buts are good [22:00]
arildbI am running the htmlconvert test again, where the "problem PAGE" i sent you has been failing up to now...
same failure
but that's not CkEditor
RobertPlummer: The CkEditor toolbar has changed quite a bit. The are more toolbars now 		[22:01]
RobertPlummerclear cache? [22:03]
arildbtrying..
still the same ... checking some more pages ...
they are all the same 		[22:03]
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arildbMaybe some kind of CkEditor config file has been over-written? [22:07]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Ampersand and Greater Than displaying as HTML - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45634 [22:13]
arildbRobertPlummer: The CkEditor no longer uses the definition in http://l5/tikitrunk/tiki-admin_toolbars.php [22:17]
RobertPlummerok, I will look into in in a moment. [22:17]
arildb: You sure you cleared your tiki cache? [22:29]
arildbyes [22:30]
RobertPlummerarildb: Can you try it once more? [22:30]
arildbok [22:30]
RobertPlummernm, I'm not sure what it up [22:31]
arildbsame result. Could it be old files hanging around? [22:32]
RobertPlummerm,, found it
nm
committing 		[22:33]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44134 10trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Partial rollback to older ckeditor initial call 		[22:40]
arildbtesting...
RobertPlummer: CkEditor toolbars are OK again 		[22:40]
RobertPlummerarildb: So so sorry about all the madness. And thanks for your time. [22:42]
arildb:-) .. thank you for making it work again
RobertPlummer: When do you expect to commit the Aloha editor updates? 		[22:43]
.... (idle for 15mn)
gourso much talk about this aloha editor...is it replacment for tinymce, ckeditor & co. ? [22:59]
arildbgour: I guess we are not sure about the outcome yet, but I currently see the aloha editor as an edit-tool for existing page and not for creating new pages [23:00]
gourarildb: i see...so it's not as powerful yet? [23:02]
arildbgour: However, if nobody is willing to maintain the ChEditor, we may need an alternative. Maybe the alhoa editor is "fuller" when hosted in the Tiki environment, instead of on a public demo page [23:02]
gourgour is fighting with nginx setup on his server...php-fpm is listening on local port, nginx does not :-/
ahh, good
after i resolve this server issue, i may start to migrating my site(s) to tiki :-) 		[23:03]
have you considered http://www.wymeditor.org/ ? [23:08]
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arildbgour: I had a quick look. wymeditor also swicthes context like the ckeditor. So, they seem to play the same role. Aloha allows in-context editing, true wysiwyg
A potential limitation/problem with the Aloha editor is that it seems to lack support for certain (critical) html tags .... nobody seems to know exactly which effect that has 		[23:13]
gouri'm curios about the possibilities to create tiki content offline in a more structured way to, possibly, get better xhtml [23:16]
arildbarildb eagerly awaits RobertPlummer's aloha integration [23:17]
gourprobaly, that means using wiki makup, right? [23:17]
RobertPlummerarildb: The biggest problem right now is jQuery, aloha has it's own way of loading it,.
arildb: I hate when libs try to be magic, just let me choose what I want and don't want to load! 		[23:18]
gourgour nods [23:18]
arildbRobertPlummer: I am sure the problem is in good hands [23:19]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r44135 10branches/10.x/templates/ 10admin/include_general.tpl 10admin/include_wiki.tpl
tikiwiki [bp/r44104,r44119] Namespace setting changes
tikiwiki [DOC] Improved doc for setting the namespace separator
tikiwiki [NEW] Add link to "Center text using ::: instead of ::" option
tikiwiki [NEW] Add link to "Page name display stripper:" option 		[23:42]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r44136 10trunk/templates/ 10admin/include_general.tpl 10admin/include_wiki.tpl
tikiwiki [NEW] Add link to option "Hide namespace indicator in structure path" in the namespace settings. 		[23:56]
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