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changi: can you accept https://github.com/changi67/tikidebpackage/pulls ? I'd like to add the dbconfig but I want to build on top of that pull request
changi: and hi :) Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki arildb: joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki
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hello! I'm trying out Tiki for the first time. I've looked everywhere and set permissions, but I can't find how to make main nav menu visible for anonymous users.
registered users see it (Wiki, Blogs, Articles and so on), but withot logging in only Home Page is seen. by coping and pasting an URL anonymous user can view articles and stuff, but no menu.
see here: http://rpgverse.ru/tiki/ arildb: Katemare: Go to Admin / Modules. Double click on the menu, and select "Anonymous" for the acess Katemare: thank you. I didn't manago to do what you've sayd (it only selected menu's text), but ticking "Show modules for all groups" did it. doug_: joined #tikiwiki
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tikiwiki [ENH] Allow to display the approver for flagged revision in the page bottom bar, information taken from actionlog arildb__: joined #tikiwiki kstingel: I have a problem with pluginTabs (and pluginFancytable) on my local test server ... they aren't showing up on the page ...
I created a test page to demonstrate the problem over on http://tikishow.kstingel.com/trunk/pluginTabs+test ... but it worked OK there ... I'm assuming my local Windon't server is missing something, but I don't know what gour: i'm considering to take cheaper VPS (in EU) to host 3-4 tiki sites with low traffic (at the moment). any recommendation? Bsfez: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: joined #tikiwiki Bsfez: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummer: kstingel: I've worked extensively with tabs, checking...
kstingel: Can you enable me to view page source? kstingel: User: admin2
Password: 67890 RobertPlummer: kstingel: Keep in mind this is a logged conversation
kstingel: I would advise to change the password immediately and send it to me private or email. kstingel: is still completly open ... I haven't enabled registration for individuals yet RobertPlummer: kstingel, it seems to work fine in firefox. kstingel: that's the public all access user :-) login info is found @ http://tikishow.kstingel.com/ RobertPlummer: kstingel: Just saying, I try to be as secure as possible even though we usually deal as devs with test data kstingel: on the live tikishow server, it's working ... on my locaol test host, all I see is the h1 content RobertPlummer: is this the tikishow server or the local?
what options do you have turned on? kstingel: that is the show server .... but page content is same RobertPlummer: what versions are the sites? kstingel: trunk, 6x, 9x + 10x RobertPlummer: all of them don't list correctly? kstingel: so far have only tried in trunk ... I'm midway through fresh co of others RobertPlummer: trunk is where it doesn't work? -: gour is lurking here for free passwds :-} RobertPlummer: gour I use hostgator, they play nice with LAMP + ssh
and svn kstingel: working on possibility that some externals are missing atm ... my DNS connection keeps dropping out and I get booted partway thru checkout process RobertPlummer: that would do it! gour: can you recommend some good & cheap(er) - if such exists - VPS to host few tiki sites? kstingel: Zend hates me ... or possibly, just my external IP :-) gour: would 768MB be enough for it? RobertPlummer: gour, I don't think they limit it fyi
at least not that they advertise kstingel: gour: depends on how many Tiki installs you plan to run RobertPlummer: vps starts at 15.96 it says gour: kstingel: let's say 3 for the beginning...low-traffic sites
RobertPlummer: $s are the limit :-) RobertPlummer: but for shared, $3.96
$s? gour: RobertPlummer: i see offering for $6.99/OpenVZ 1024m RobertPlummer: $s = 0; if ($hosting > $s) throw ('Too Expensive!'); //gour :) gour: lol RobertPlummer: I think that would end in an exception. gour: s/$s/$XYZs/g RobertPlummer: throw is javascript
throw new Exception('');//php gour: at the moment i can use 500M altogether for web apps, but my server (atm i configured cherokee) runs behind nginx (reverse-proxy) which timeouts when i try to install tiki, so i had to install it manually :-/ dhz: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummer: gour, since you are hanging with the devs, I would suggest using svn. gour: RobertPlummer: svn? for what?
i simply skipped from CVS (light usage) over svn straight to dvcs (darcs in 2003)...so why going back? RobertPlummer: gour to get the most recent [0-9][0-9]?[x] we are working on.
Now it is 10.x
gour, I meant to obtain latest branch/tg -: gour hopes tiki will move to dvcs (fossil) (pretty) soon RobertPlummer: tag gour: RobertPlummer: what do you think about this: http://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/forum/topic/1250 RobertPlummer: gour, it sounds neat. I would talk with the guys at phpstorm, the transition could be seemless for some of us. gour: if/when working on something tiki-related, i'll probably use some dvcs-svn client RobertPlummer: gour, they love inovative ideas especially with version control systems. Git + svn work seemlessly there. gour: RobertPlummer: you use phpstorm? RobertPlummer: gour, we don't want to force a web-sever, but apache seems to work very well, and is what most of us use.
gour: Yes, it gives me big muscles. gour: RobertPlummer: i understand, but apache simply eats memory RobertPlummer: gour: I see
gour: But if you have memory to spare ;) gour: RobertPlummer: so, now i use cherokee, but will explore hiawatha which looks cute...of course, for both we'd need to provide rewrite rules RobertPlummer: checking it out: http://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/ correct? -: gour is from (poor) Croartia and has to be conscious about his expenses, web hosting included gour: RobertPlummer: yes
RobertPlummer: his dev is not happy seeing the state of rewriting-rules in Tiki :-/
*Croatia RobertPlummer: gour: I think in many cases, I would just download, install, and see if you like it.
gour: If it means adding a bunch of url rewriting rules, I would simply turn those off for the time being.
gour: You could implement them slowly. gour: RobertPlummer: i'll install it on my localhost, for sure RobertPlummer: wondering, gour pronounced like it sounds?
gu-our? gour: problem is i'm not familiar with htaccess, so will have to use htaccess --> nginx and then work from there RobertPlummer: htaccess is pretty well documented.
I would start by opening the htaccess file, and search off each setting defined. gour: RobertPlummer: it's my nick, how people call me...no it's ,like gou-r RobertPlummer: nice gour: maybe like gaur RobertPlummer: gour: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gar gour: RobertPlummer: my nick comes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauranga RobertPlummer: cool gour: maybe this might be close how to pronounce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaur RobertPlummer: just wondering, interesting. "Indian Bison"
Keep out of gour's way! He is a wild animal!
:) gour: RobertPlummer: what do you think about the current status of rewriting rules in Tiki, as noted by hiawatha dev and mentioned in http://www.stevestreeting.com/2012/05/09/apache-to-nginx-php-fpm-part-1/
RobertPlummer: right, i've Moon in Aries :-) RobertPlummer: gour, I use them, but have not written any. They are not too complicated.
Does the regex work the same as it does in apache?
I think it defers to C or C++.
lphuberdeau: Is that right ^ gour: RobertPlummer: i mean the tiki bug violating RFC 3986 using ‘+’ outside of the scheme or query string in a URI as the Tiki shortlinks do is invalid... fabricius: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummer: gour: Can you give me a url that is generated by tiki that is invalid?
gour: I would imagine if it is invalid, we'd want it fixed. gour: RobertPlummer: have you read the section 'Nginx rewrite rule problems' in the above URL? RobertPlummer: gour, I did a quick once over gour: i'd also like that this problem gets fixed...despite not using nginx, but the comment by hiawatha dev is not nice to hear
RobertPlummer: just read that section
it goes like: "Its wiki encodes space characters in page names as ‘+’, and uses this as links..." RobertPlummer: gour, are you with Ogre3d? gour: RobertPlummer: nope...not at all RobertPlummer: Changing from "+" to "%2B" shouldn't be a big deal, but I've eaten my words before. gour: just asked on that post about rewriting rules, but went back to cherokee...
he he
RobertPlummer: have you read reply from hiawatha dev as reply to my question? RobertPlummer: looking
I see the problem, interesting.
give me a minute gour: tiki's codebase is huge and i've to become familiar with tiki itself before even attempting to look 'under the hood' :-)
but i'm enthusiastic to learn...'cause i want to settle on tiki for all my web needs for the foreseeable future :-) RobertPlummer: Looks like chealer was a big contributor to htaccess, and he is not longer a dev. gour: fortunately there is 'svn blame' command :-) RobertPlummer: Looks like we just need to do a change on converting " " from "+" to "%20", looks like an easy fix. -: gour thinks that despite of apache being the most popular, features has to be done to be webserver-agnostic gour: that would be cool...thanks a lot for looking into it arildb: RobertPlummer: "converting " " from "+" to "%20", looks like an easy fix."...I am not sure. The PHP function urlencode will convert to "+" and rawurlencode will use %20..is that correct. Is that correct?...are there other "hidden things"? RobertPlummer: arildb: See, that is what scares me, could be a big job. arildb: RobertPlummer: yes. I am not sure, but looks like it could lead to some "holes" gour: big or not big, let's raise the severity and fix it RobertPlummer: gour, you willing to take on the responsibility of changing it? gour: RobertPlummer: i could, but i certainly need some time...i'm tiki & php noob atm :-/ RobertPlummer: raise the problem and the proposed fix in the email dev list, and ensure you get proper support.
We've all been in your shoes at some point.
gour: When I started with tiki, I had only written a few lines of php. nearly 3 years in, I'm writing the new tiki wiki parser engine, one of the more complex entities in tiki.
with arildb's help (right arildb) :) gour: ok, i'll send a post to the devel combining wisdom from that nginx+tiki post and reply from the hiawatha dev RobertPlummer: and all the tiki devs gour: heh, "with a little help from my friends..:" RobertPlummer: gour: good move -: gour is thanking RobertPlummer arildb: RobertPlummer: ..not much help from me... I am trying to stay away from the thorny area of parsing ;-) RobertPlummer: arildb: It is becoming less and less thorny, no? arildb: RobertPlummer: I can small the roses Bsfez: joined #tikiwiki arildb: s/small/smell RobertPlummer: arildb: I've got much of Aloha working fyi, had to take a couple days off as my clients need some tlc, but it is close. in short, jquery ui is being overwritten when I invoke it.
Thus tiki breaks.
I'm working with the devs to fix this issue, am testing their ability to merge my commits.
other than the very obscure, but in many ways needed, way of loading their entire lib, it is one of the best libs I've seen imho.
like strongly typed javascript, if there was such a thing. arildb: RobertPlummer: I am eager to try this out, but it has to start. No-one but you can take this on at the moment, I think. RobertPlummer: arildb: understood, it has started.
arildb: There are other places were we could use your help, not just wysiwyg. arildb: RobertPlummer: Is it built into trunk yet? RobertPlummer: arildb: I'm awaiting merge of my first commit, then it will be.
https://github.com/alohaeditor/Aloha-Editor/pull/822
Had to expose the elements being inserted so that we can modify them slightly. arildb: RobertPlummer: My life is going through some changes now privately. Thus I cannot take on any new reposnisbilities (in the Tiki way). I am however happy to help out when the time allows. RobertPlummer: very good, thanks arildb -: gour sent post to devel list... Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Reports to Excel - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45641 Bsfez: joined #tikiwiki luciash: polom arildb: The anchor tag class "wiki wiki_page" was added reasontly, I belive. It used to be simply "wiki". This is causing some issues with the backlinks. What was the reason for the change? Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44179 10branches/10.x/templates/comment/list.tpl
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s/why/what was the reason/ arildb: luciash: The backlink search used to look for preg_match_all('/<a class="wiki" href="tiki-index.php?page=([^?&"]+)[^"]*"/', ....
I changed it to preg_match_all('/<a class="wiki wiki_page" href="tiki-index.php?page=([^?&"]+)[^"]*"/', ...
"wiki wiki_page" is what the current Tiki versio uses
however, I discovered that when accessing old data, class="wiki" still remains
so, actually both the old and the new syntax must be suppoerted
maybe better with a regex, than a separate preg_match + array_merge...or?
so, the issue is that backlinks are broken for wiki pages in HTML syntax
in parserlib.php function get_pages($data,$withReltype = false) (trunk) luciash: arildb: try <a class="wiki[^"]*" href="... arildb: luciash: trying... redflo: joined #tikiwiki Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44180 10branches/10.x/ 10lib/tikilib.php 10tiki-forums_rss.php
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tikiwiki [FIX] Catch both anchor tag classes "wiki" and "wiki wiki_page", in backlink processing. Thanks luciash
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tikiwiki [FIX] Wrong preference check to select the search implementation, also include appropriate filter for forum posts GillesM: hi Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03arildb r44183 10trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php
tikiwiki [FIX] (hopefully) make backlinks work with SEFURL for pages in html format.
tikiwiki I think this is an old issue. Please check.
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tikiwiki [fix] typo luciash: hi GillesM Puchoweb: joined #tikiwiki Bsfez: joined #tikiwiki GillesM: hi luciash lindonb: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: joined #tikiwiki arildb: luciash: The Normal anchor tag generation makes links like: <a class="wiki wiki_page" href="html+to+pdf+test" title="html to pdf test">html to pdf test</a></p>
However, there is another variation: <a href="mindmap%20test"><span class="wiki wikinew">mindmap test</span></a>
that is the class attribute is missing in the anchor tag
is there a regex, that could include this case, in addition to class="..."? luciash: arildb: it looks complicated; where does this variation come from ? would not it be easier to fix this extra case to match the other ones for consistency's sake ? arildb: luciash: Seems to be generated here: HTML editor -> Add Http Link -> Select type Wiki page. There is also the issue of old data / manual links
luciash: I have added extra preg_match_all statements to catch these cases luciash: ok arildb: When refreshing backlinks preg_match_all is called 7 times per page .... not so good Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03arildb r44185 10trunk/ 10db/tiki.sql 03installer/schema/20121203_expand_object_relation_tiki.sql
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