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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: New TikiWiki 10 (beta) Installation - Unable to save preferences/permissions - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=45684 [08:06]
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gourmorning
or polom
after some pre-eliminary work with tiki, now i want to migrate my sites to it...on one site we keep list/table of audio (mp3) files available for download. besides filename, filesize, date when the file was lastly updated and download counter are displayed. how to do it in tiki? 		[10:24]
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luciashpolom
gour: what column is missing when you edit the file gallery in tiki
gour: there are display options 		[11:59]
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gourluciash: i did not even start...now i just created file gallery and have to populate it a bit [12:04]
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luciashthere seems some little glitch in up-to-date version check... "A new version of Tiki, 9.1, is available. You are currently running 9.2. Please visit tiki.org/Download." [12:20]
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luciashmoloq jonnyb [13:13]
jonnybhi luciash [13:14]
luciashhi :) [13:14]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44292 10branches/10.x/ 10(7 files in 3 dirs)
tikiwiki [FIX] Replace serialize/unserialize_calls on input with json encode/decode where appropriate, removed some others (thanks for the continued help on this Egix) 		[13:20]
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44293 10(8 files in 4 dirs)
tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/10.x 44284 to 44292 		[13:32]
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alzooI have a quick question on ldap external group configuration. is this used to populate groups in the tiki or to define which members of a ldap group can login? [14:28]
rinnanpolom [14:41]
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rinnanI've been fiddling with pluginmono and plugincode but whatever I try there seems to be no way to display code in a box using å monospaced font.
anyone got an idea what I'm not seeing? 		[14:45]
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rinnanI did manage to use pluginmono in an old fashioned ^-style box, but then I lose the indentation and syntax-highlighting [14:49]
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alzooanyone know the answer to my ldap external groups question? [14:53]
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rinnan<- has only used the basic ldap funtionality unfortunately [14:54]
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alzoodones anyone know then if I can filter logins by ldap group? [15:02]
luciashalzoo: no ldap knowledge here, sorry
rinnan: it is by the CSS - it sets the syntax highlighter font to sans-serif instead of monospace, u need to override it or switch off the CodeMirror syntax highlighter 		[15:03]
rinnanluciash: ah, excellent: I'll look into it right away. Thanks! [15:09]
luciashrinnan: there is theme in upcoming Tiki 10 which sets it to monospace by default - gradiant.css [15:12]
rinnanluciash: I'll investigate that option as well. Got a bit confused by the docs claiming plugincode uses monospaced font by default [15:14]
luciashrinnan: in fact it does but it is overriden by the syntax highlighter [15:14]
rinnanand thats where my confusion really kicked in ;) I'll hunt down that CSS now [15:15]
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gouri've some issues when uploading files to the gallery in 10.0b...for every upload i get 'POST aborted' is there any known issue? [15:26]
arildbgour: works ok for me (last time I tried). Is the file large? [15:29]
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gourarildb: at first i was trying with 40MB, not with 400k, but both fail [15:30]
arildbgour: I just tested on 10 (SVN version), and file uploads work fine [15:31]
gourarildb: it's even more strange 'cause it's on my localhost...let me check some things [15:32]
laureiwhats the going rate for a tikiwiki install [15:36]
luciashgoing rate ? [15:37]
ricks99laurei: Tiki is free... no charge [15:38]
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laureisurely there are people around who take a payment in exchange for installing the packages [15:40]
rinnanluciash: thanks again, monospace source code works like a charm now that I commented out the one line specifying the codemirror font [15:43]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44294 03branches/aloha-editor
tikiwiki [NEW] Branching for custom work with aloha 		[15:50]
RobertPlummerDrat, was testing and didn't think that would go through. [15:50]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44295 03branches/experimental/aloha-editor/trunk
tikiwiki [NEW] Branching for custom work with aloha 		[15:52]
gourstrange. i get POST entity too large for upload of 100KB file and tiki reports "Maximum file size is around: 81 MB" (setting is 100M) [15:54]
arildbgour: there are many settings that determine the max size. On IIS the setting is not picked up. It may be similar with other non-Apache servers [15:55]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44296 04branches/aloha-editor
tikiwiki [REM] Wrong branch location, needs experimental 		[15:56]
gourarildb: thanks. will investigate.... [15:56]
RobertPlummergour, I was thinking, I wouldn't mind using fossil, but we would need trunk and need to merge to svn from fossil and to fossil from svn, is that possible?
arildb: Will be committing aloha editor shortly, branch already exists 		[15:57]
gourRobertPlummer: probably not feasible for continuous merging, but for occasional it should work...you can export from fossil to git and then using git-svn as (best) svn client [15:58]
RobertPlummergour, would it take a lot of development to find a way to do so?
gour: Because I know they have achieved it with git.
github accepts both svn and git commits to the same repository, although that isn't really the same.
gour: Or does fossil accept svn commits?
gour: That'd be pretty cool 		[15:59]
gourRobertPlummer: fossil --> git is simple - see http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/inout.wiki
no, fossil does not have anything with svn, even with git 'cause it has quite different model 		[16:01]
RobertPlummerSo can git and fossil merge freely?
Jyhem_laptop, Jyhem: you around?
kstingel: Did you ever get anywhere with jison development? 		[16:02]
gourRobertPlummer: for the other part see - http://maymay.net/blog/2009/02/24/how-to-use-git-svn-as-the-only-subversion-client-youll-need/ [16:03]
RobertPlummerricks99: You around? [16:03]
gourRobertPlummer: i believe that 2-way sync between fossil & git is not for everyday...the best is to migrate from svn altogether ;) [16:04]
RobertPlummergour: Are there any plans for this functionality to be created?
gour: I think it would aid to the acceptance if that did work. 		[16:04]
gourRobertPlummer: to move away from svn? there is some inititiative...the best is to report your (frustration) problems with svn to marclaporte ;)
gour also believe tiki deserves better 		[16:05]
JyhemRobertPlummer: yes, but in a meeting [16:07]
RobertPlummergour: Believe me, I have. I am one of the advocates wanting it most. I wanted git + github due to ease of adding committers, but there is overhead. [16:08]
gourRobertPlummer: have you tried fossil privately? [16:10]
RobertPlummergour: No, I haven't had time. [16:10]
gourRobertPlummer: it really "saves developer's brain cycles"...much easier/safer than git...have you read my post how tcl/tk moved to it? [16:11]
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RobertPlummerNo I did. It is just a big move is all.
We would need trunk and the ability to merge to svn.
and from fossil to svn. If we had this, then there would be reason to migrate as it would be an adjustable learning curve.
Also mentioned was externals, did we ever discover a way to do that in fossil? 		[16:13]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44297 04branches/experimental/aloha-editor/trunk
tikiwiki [REM] Duplicate trunk 		[16:16]
gourRobertPlummer: learning curve for fossil is almost nil...even the command (sub)set is quite similar to svn
as far as externals, i only know that fossil includes sqlite sources in its repo and regularly merges new ones 		[16:20]
RobertPlummergour: That is good. How hard would it be to manage merging to and from fossil/svn? [16:21]
gourTcl/Tk is big project which moved and it could be worthy to ask them...when i asked in IRC, I got reply from 'em that "we do not want to host anything critical on SF", so that maybe different idea than keeping SF on Allura
RobertPlummer: i cannot say 'cause svn has/keeps metadata differently...maybe the better option would be to use svn <--> git and then regularly import into fossil
firebug shows that PSOT request for uploading ~80kb file is ~300kb in size and i believe that the server does not allow such big request. why such an overhead?
is there any option to (S)FTP gallery files to the server and then catch 'em directly from the server? 		[16:22]
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ricks99gour: yes, use the batch option [16:33]
gourricks99: thank you [16:34]
ricks99youre welcome [16:34]
gourthat's podcasts dir, i thought it's for something else [16:36]
ricks99?
can use any directory/ftp location
nothing to do with podcast
see docs for details: http://doc.tiki.org/Batch+Upload 		[16:36]
gouroption says: Podcast directory: isn't it a bit misleading?
ahh, then it's something else 		[16:38]
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RobertPlummerarildb: Guess what I'm committing ;)
arildb: aloha?
:) 		[16:53]
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arildbHi RobertPlummer
is aloha the commit in experimental complete? ... so it loads?
RobertPlummer: I downloaded the aloha-editor experimental branch yesterday, but not much worked.
is this a new build, or? 		[17:02]
gourfrom the latest SF newsletter: "Another popular code hosting service recently announced that they won't be allowing uploading of packaged releases any more. This seems like a good opportunity to remind you that you're welcome to host your downloads on SourceForge, even if other parts of your project are hosted elsewhere. " :-) [17:08]
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RobertPlummerarildb: I'm committing, it is taking forever. Lots of files. [17:39]
arildb:-) [17:40]
RobertPlummerarildb: You should be able to svn up when it is uploaded. [17:40]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44298 10branches/ 10(1986 files in 328 dirs)
tikiwiki [NEW] Added aloha-editor and initial integration.
tikiwiki [ENH] Removed setUpJisonEditor from ckeditor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php and added a jison-editor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php to follow the same model of integration
tikiwiki [FIX] tiki-preview.tpl and resizable doesn't like the handles method we are using so commented out for the time being (just the handles) 		[17:42]
RobertPlummerFINALLY! [17:42]
arildbRobertPlummer: ...updating [17:43]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r44299 10branches/ 10experimental/aloha-editor/lib/ckeditor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php 10experimental/aloha-editor/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php
tikiwiki [NEW] Added aloha-editor and initial integration.
tikiwiki [ENH] Removed setUpJisonEditor from ckeditor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php and added a jison-editor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php to follow the same model of integration
tikiwiki [FIX] tiki-preview.tpl and resizable doesn't like the handles method we are using so commented out for the time being (just the handles) 		[17:44]
RobertPlummerarildb: Fyi, edit & save will distort the document at this time. [17:46]
arildbRobertPlummer: ok...nop...just a test db anyhow [17:47]
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RobertPlummerarildb: How we looking? [17:54]
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arildbRobertPlummer: still downloading [17:54]
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arildbRobertPlummer: starting Tiki w/aloha now
RobertPlummer: Is the an aloha setting, or is it just to enable the Jison parser? I guess wysiwyg must be enabled too... 		[18:31]
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RobertPlummer: I did a little testnig ...
I am able to load the Aloha Editor, including writing text in it. (Enabled wysiwyg only, i.e. not optional)
It is not possible to save a new wiki page
existing page (no plugins ... pure text) loads ok in Aloha
when attempting to save a page, I get a blank screen. The changes have not been saved
being able to save wiki page changes is kind of crucial to do other testng
I am testing on Windows7, IIS7 using FF
The properties tab, when editing is missing, but is not important right now.
The aloha editor is activated by pressing edit page. 		[18:47]
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arildbRobertPlummer: Alohas ability to edit without a context switch (as seen on their test pages) is great, I think.
Pressing the "edit button" cuases a context switch. Would a general "wiki edit-mode" at user level be better?
Then the user would remain in edit mode for all visited wiki pages, until "edit mode" is closed.
That would eliminate the edit context switch
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44300 10trunk/doc/ 10stable.version 10longterm.cycle 10regular.cycle
tikiwiki [REL] missing 9.2 release info 		[19:22]
tikiwiki 03sylvieg r44301 10trunk/templates/tiki-user_information.tpl
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RobertPlummerarildb: Explain at use level. [20:48]
arildbRobertPlummer: User level = there is a system "switch" (per session) which holds the "edit-mode". When it's active, all wiki pages are automatically in edit mode (thus no switch to an editor context)
instead of switching to an editor context
This is one of the great things on their demos, in my opinion.
RobertPlummer: can such an in-context edit mode be implemented in Tiki? 		[20:49]
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RobertPlummerarildb: I think that would be a great addition. And realistically could be implemented with little overhead even now.
arildb: Where we need to most help is going to be in aloha-editor plugins. 		[21:09]
arildbRobertPlummer: that sounds great [21:10]
RobertPlummerarildb: You're telling me, I love the thing. [21:10]
arildbRobertPlummer: plugins, ok. What are they, and what is needed? [21:10]
RobertPlummerarildb: An aloha-editor plugin would provide some sort of implementation between aloha-editor and tiki [21:11]
arildbRobertPlummer: such as saving pages? [21:12]
RobertPlummerarildb: We are basically at scratch right now with them. I can think of a number of them that would either need an event that exposes what was inserted or modified, or something that edits wiki plugins.
arildb: Not so much, that can be done in a few lines of code, just been busy today with unexpected meetings and the release of 10. 		[21:12]
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arildbRobertPlummer: Is the Aloha licensing issue resolved? [21:14]
RobertPlummerarildb: Not yet. We are hopefull that there will be an exception for us. [21:15]
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RobertPlummerarildb: Worst case scenario, tiki installers will need to download it separately. [21:15]
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arildbRobertPlummer: good that even the worst case is semi-workable [21:16]
RobertPlummerarildb: Yes, but still not ideal. One thing at a time though. marclaporte is using his amazing public relations skills on how it has helped tiki so I'm sure we will reach some sort of agreement. [21:17]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44302 10branches/10.x/templates/tiki-list_trackers.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] trackers: Change heading on tracker structure import as it does not take CSV data. Added a (hopefully) clarifying note (thanks Arild) 		[21:26]
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changiBsfez: release or not release ?? [21:37]
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arildbWhen looking at a tracker (watch is marked active), I get the error
PHP (5.4.8) NOTICE (E_NOTICE):
File: D:OpenSourceTikiWikiwwwtiki10libtrackerstrackerlib.php
Line: 3060
Type: Undefined index: user_tracker_watch_editor
watching tracker changes also doesn't seem to work. Maybe related? 		[21:44]
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luciasharildb: it is not an error, it is a notice ;) [22:14]
arildbluciash: yes, you are right. Still it mentions user_tracker_watch_editor ... not sure if that is related to watching tracker changes or not (wghich does not seem to work) [22:15]
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arildbSince your last visit... does not seem to work ok in dev.t.o. jonnyb fixed this some time ago though. Maybe the problem is back? [22:26]
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jonnybwouldn't be surprised, lots of stuff gets broken :( [22:27]
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arildbjonnyb: I get strange results in my local Tiki 10 too. So, Since your last visit... seems broken again :-( [22:31]
jonnybarildb: will just have to join the queue i'm afraid [22:32]
arildbjonnyb: the last fix was an sql fix, I believe. Do you remember where..in which php file? [22:34]
I found it. in userslib.php [22:41]
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jonnybsorry arildb - yes the fix is still in there - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=44021&view=rev - something else must have changed [23:22]
arildbseems like it [23:22]
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jonnyb: I think Since your last visit... may be working. The list got cleared now, when I loggout out and back in [23:40]
jonnybarildb: since last visit looks ok to me on dev.t.o (i see stuff in there) [23:41]
arildbyes, I think it's ok. Sorry about a false alarm [23:41]
jonnybno probs, thanks for being vigilant! :) [23:42]
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